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OCSS-051 PVC Cabin Ventilation - Mini-Cruiser Sailboat Build

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In this episode I build the PVC ventilation system up in the bow. I also test its ability to drain water.
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@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

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@BrainCaseSugaryGoodness Год назад

I would create a little recess in the pipe and fit an o-ring. To hold the fitting safely together fit a short self-tapping screw

@eddcosterton5531 Год назад

Use a compression fitting. Swimming pool fittings will probably work with your diameter of pipe

@sleroy1980 Год назад

I think you'll be fine without sealing, except it could come loose. I liked the idea of the pool connectors someone mentioned. You could also try a butyl tape. It's watertight and easy to remove.

@toroddlnning6806 Год назад

dont you need another vent to create some sort of pull through and possibly some fans to blow the wind in the right direction?

@MrRombie Год назад

If you put a valve right before your air output, you could close the system off and flush it out with a cleaner and water. Otherwise, I would seal the pipes with aquarium silicone sealant. If you seal the seems, it would be easy to remove with a razor blade later to get access. Great work as always!

@SvenYrvindExlex Год назад

Hi Perry. Thanks for mentioning my channel. Try to awoid brass on a boat as it may become brittle and crack bronze or cupper. You can also make the parts in glassfibre. Use polystyrene as pattern leave it in place then melt it down with a solvent. A bit messy.

@DarrenMalin 4 месяца назад

'sailed the Atlantic with him and a Girl' The man is a wise old bird that is great way to keep warm :)

@joea537 Год назад

I also agree with M. Silvius regarding a valve at your through hull. I know you are trying to reduce cost and complexity, but safety as sea, especially solo sailing, is paramount. Also, at the base of the U-bend where you incorporated the 1/2” pvc drain for the through hull, instead of using a 90 degree elbow, perhaps it would be better to use a tee (bullhead configuration with the run of the tee facing outboard and inboard) with a serviceable cap facing inboard end. This would allow you to clear any debris/blockage that may occur if your dorade ingests any seaweed, etc.

@thomassteinhilber5538 Год назад

If you want to heat and bend pvc or pex with heat, take an amount of sand that fills the pipe and put it in a pot. Heat at 350 for about 30 min, stirring multiple time to thoroughly dry the sand as it heats. Then pore it into the pipe and wait a few minutes while the sand heats the pipe. You can then bend the pipe and the sand will prevent the pipe from kinking. Lots of videos available on this technique. I have used it many times and it works great.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Cool trick! Thanks.

@papounet4842 Год назад

I agree ! Sand works with copper pipes too. My plumber is a wizard and I enjoy watching him do magic work with his tools (including this sand from Portugal).

@neilels4208 Год назад

Guys like this make the internet great. Men can "talk and listen" to other men who tell us *why* they do things. It's the WHY that is important, ie. What glue was used and why it is good and the other glues are 'less good', informative stuff. And then to top it off a job is never done until it passes testing.

@isserfiq Год назад

I realize the brass drain thru-hull fitting will be above the waterline but I think a shutoff at that spot is imperative. If your vent pipe integrity is ever compromised for what ever reason that may be, not having a shut off there would allow a direct opening into the cabin from the outside way too close to the water for comfort. Any minor wave would push water inside the boat. Any amount of heel will put that drain in the water. Not good. Make the thru hull fitting out of a threaded bronze tube that is sufficiently long to protrude on the inside of the hull by about an inch. That way you can screw on a brass shut-off valve on the inside. I also would be inclined to use barbed brass fittings with a hose in place of the 3/4 inch PVC coming out of the drain in your black U trap. This will facilitate removal for service and in a pinch you could disconnect the air vent drain and run your bilge pump out there too.

@NM-ql9er Год назад

I do not trust how that drain is connected to the trap piece. Don't rush to do this if you can't get the right part. When you're alone in the ocean. You want what's keeping you afloat to be solid. Plumbers tape to a opening will blow the first time it's hit with real pressure

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

I think just keeping a cork or rubber stopper around would do the trick until repairs can be made. Stopping the boat or going on the other tack easily brings the drain out of the water.

@NM-ql9er Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat it's better to build to not need that then plan to fix it. Plus they probably make a hose or PVC adapter for that thread your connecting too. You could drill a hole in the cap the same size of the white PVC. Thread the PVC pipe through the cap you drilled out and then flare it. That way you can apply sealant and get a compression fitting. Plus if you're upside down and that pipes open it will allow water into the boat cause it won't have the internal air pressure keeping it out

@LouisBackover 5 месяцев назад

To bend PVC pipe without kinking it, pack the pipe solid with sand first then heat and bend.

@barneygoogle4003 Год назад

The other comments about improving the drain thru hole fitting/drain tube/adding shut off valve for safety seem very logical.

@Finn-McCool Год назад

It would require some refitting of the assembly, however if you were to use rubber connectors rather than PVC connectors your temporary fixing of the joints would be solved with a couple stainless steel worm drive hose clamps. If the ends were cut square and accurate the rubber would never be in contact with water and therefore not be subject to dry rot for a long long time. 👍

@mmac4047 6 месяцев назад

use silcone thick wall tube, remember freezing temps are possible.

@joshuamillar5157 Год назад

If you have any concerns with ventilation you can always add an inline fan on one end

@Stupha_Kinpendous Год назад

The Star Wars bit at the beginning killed me. Nice one. You big nerd.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

It's true, I watch them once a year.

@Stupha_Kinpendous Год назад

I watch the Star Wars Christmas Special every year for Christmas. We might be family.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

@@Stupha_Kinpendous That's the only one I have never watched, I have heard it is truly, unforgivably awful. I also will likely never watch episodes 8 & 9 again.

@Stupha_Kinpendous Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat It is SPECTACULARLY awful. One of the worst things I've ever seen. Absolutely worth it, though. And it grows on you.

@redsailor101 Год назад

Spiral bender for the little blue pipe

@michielbesseling6248 Год назад

hahaha! Your Star Wars skit had me laughing.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Pretty embarrassing, but I left it in😂.

@areyoumad Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Nope, that was great!

@liamstone3437 Год назад

Wow you sure know how to trigger my contractor's OCD! Mixing PVC and ABS! My heart is pounding and I think I need to visit the ER for an EKG! So glad you scrapped the glued pex - that would have killed me. Fyi there are brass fittings threaded on both ends and cheap threaded adapters made of PVC that would form a more "conventional" transition than whatever sealant you used. A temporary "glue" for your joints could be latex caulk (no silicon) but don't use too much or it might as well be permanent - just use it externally not on the mated surfaces if you want to be able to pull them apart later. I do wonder since ABS elbows exist - why PVC? Or the other way -PVC pipe exists - why ABS?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

😂 I think the trouble started because I wanted to use all white PVC, but they only had the return bend in ABS, then the straight pipe was a couple dollars cheaper if I went ABS. Then later I decided a white straight pipe should be installed for the pipe that goes through the deck, so that it would be easier to paint white. Ended up BACK at Lowes to buy white PVC pipe for that. It'll work fine, but yeah I would do it differently if I had to start over.

@joea537 Год назад

Liam, as a retired union pipefitter of 50 years, I too cringed with the pipe mix! But considering the use and circumstances, I will give Perry a pass👍

@DavidD6969 Год назад

It's coming along very nicely 👍

@roxyknight4909 Год назад

Some sort of cut off value incase of emergencies seems perhaps sensible ? ... loving watching your progress

@perfectweather Год назад

Great video, thanks 👍

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@sailingona Год назад

So good, thank love the foot action:)

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

🤣 It took good coordination.

@gunnarfernqvist4896 Год назад

Never ever use bathroom silicone on anything you don’t want to trash afterwards. Once you get silicone on a surface nothing will ever stick to that surface again, not even silicone, without a lot of chemical cleaning or sanding. If you want that kind of sealant use Sikaflex or something similar, silicone isn’t salt water resistant either, Sikaflex (and similar) is.

@michaelgillespie6526 Год назад

Great episode Capt. Perry. Thanks for sharing. I like your vent system! Never seen it before but looks like it'll work as designed. Better than dorades.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thanks 👍

@johnmalthus4481 Год назад

I would just put a self taping screw to hold it in place im a bit worried about your brass drain salt water and brass make a good battery but keep up the good work John

@mattevans-koch9353 Год назад

On a second watch, the vent system reminded me of the shape of a tuba. Hope you have a way to tune it if it becomes necessary. Nice work Captain. Have a great week ahead.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Haha, secondary use: fog horn.

@mattevans-koch9353 Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat That is a great idea.

@johngrant1337 Год назад

good video thanks ( you should find a adapter fitting in home depot or Lowes for the drain line)

@nasseemmuttur778 Год назад

Good work. I would make the the fixing permanent except at the two ends, one on the bulkhead and one going on the deck. I would make spare ventilation kit to just replace when needed for example during maintenence.

@superwag634 Год назад

To make it even more resistant in a rollover, you could have the air intake on deck to the furtherest away side

@gordont9754 Год назад

Because this is not a pressure system you can use beeswax on the joints that you are not glueing. Simple apply a fairly reasonable amount of wax to the female part of the joint . That will keep the joint inplace and stop any water leaking and allow you to dismantle the system should you wish..

@Vincent_fast_Stop Год назад

If you want to disassemble the pvc tubes, mark the connections with a marker line. When reassembling you will be as precise as a pencil line.

@markthomasson5077 Год назад

Most smaller sized drainage in uk uses polypropylene fittings that are gasket and screw down, so fully able to take apart

@diederikvandedijk Год назад

For removable connections just use elbows or fittings with a rubber packing seal/gasket that slides over the pipe.

@chiefairsoft8277 Год назад

You could try cutting a shallow channel ion the straight pipe and use a thin o ring to seal the joint.

@user-mi5cr7zl9c 11 месяцев назад

I like your thinking. I would have added a value just after it enters the yacht for when it's very rough outside. Should the vessel turn upside down no water will enter the yacht.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, due to the big U shape it shouldn't allow any water in through a full rollover. But I was thinking if really rough weather was expected I could just replace the cowling on deck with a cap to keep out all water.

@user-mi5cr7zl9c 11 месяцев назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat a cap requires you to leave the safety of the cockpit. A value can be turned off from inside. I also would not have any holes in the hull. I would have a bucket. Which could be hand or pumped empty.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat 11 месяцев назад

At least the only holes are above the waterline, most yachts have so many below water holes for all kinds of intakes and drains, plus the propshaft and depth sounder and on and on and on...@@user-mi5cr7zl9c

@mauroceresa1219 Год назад

For tube bending there are metal springs that you need to enter into the tube. They will keep the shape while bending and you pull them out after.

@SvenYrvindExlex Год назад

Good advice In the old days 1950-s for metal pipes we used sand and a wooden plug in each end. If you do not have the metal spring maybee a rope will work

@mauroceresa1219 Год назад

@@SvenYrvindExlex idea of sand it is really great. Good luck Sven with your adventures.

@Garryck-1 Год назад

@@SvenYrvindExlex - I think rope would compress too easily during the bending process.

@s.cooperman9267 Год назад

your ventilation is a super design. For temporary sealant you could use a self vulcanizing tape. I think the sealant capability would be strong enough and you can simply cut it away if necessary. Only the lower joints I would bond together as there could be a water column while listing to the starboard side.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thank you, and good idea.

@theovandenberg4682 Год назад

Great idea that vent system. I would suggest to mount a sucker scoop outside on the hull over the drain outlet. Similar to self drainers on open sail boats. It will prevent water being pushed inside.

@areyoumad Год назад

Is it useful, though? Water entering this way would be drained immediately.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

I was thinking of having a rubber flap to prevent waves from pushing water in, but I decided I'll try sailing with it as is and see if it's needed. I suspect no water can be pushed in from the little drain hard enough that it can make it all the way up to the cabin vent.

@marcoheijboer7003 Год назад

Hi Perry, in my opinion you have made a hole in your boat. When sailing the drain will be below the water line and as found out by Archimedes the water will enter your cabin…… the solution could be to fit a non return valve in the drain. But I doubt if that will work with so low overpressure.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Yes when sailing on a port tack the drain will likely be underwater. A little water will enter the pipe, but not high enough to come in the cabin, which is quite a ways up. Everything will be tested once she's in the water.

@joea537 Год назад

Regarding your ventilation piping, specifically the joints that you want to “seal” but would also like to be able to disassemble, I have a suggestion. What I would do is butter the joints with dielectric grease (silicone based). It is waterproof, odorless and inert. Where the piping is not going to be subjected to any significant pressure, it should work fine. I would also add one small, accessible if possible, SS screw to each unglued joint as insurance in order to avoid an unintended separation and to lock things up.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thank you, I like the idea.

@curtishill6490 Год назад

Looks good Perry!! I saw Sven was talking about this and your boat a little bit ago. Are you gonna take your boat across the ocean?? Anyways thanks for the share and finally feeling spring here on Cape Cod ✌️

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

That's the plan!

@DarrenMalin 4 месяца назад

years too late I know :) but if you want to bend a pipe without it kinking fill it full of sand before you bend it. This has been used to bend copper since copper pluming was invented :)

@johnstarkie9948 2 месяца назад

Plumbing. From the Latin ‘plumbum’, meaning ‘lead’, because the original plumbing was lead pipe.

@theresnobodyhere5778 Год назад

those joints you want to temporary seal i would,nt put anything like compounds into the sleeve of the joint it will harden eventually ,best thing i can think of is the very sticky aluminium tape it would seal perfect on outside of joint and when removing use a small blade to cut around join edge

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Aluminum tape, thank you that's a good one.

@barneygoogle4003 Год назад

Am thinking maybe you could just apply an external bead of silicone to the joints since they're already essentially watertight with no seal. Also maybe clamp/strap them in place as necessary just to eliminate the possibility of something inadvertently pulling apart?

@matthewharding6245 Год назад

Regarding the temporary seal, why not use compression fittings which have rubber gaskets and threaded connections which can be removed easily.

@timerickson7056 Год назад

Moonshiners used a paste made from water and flour . They use it to seal pressurized lines . Not sure how it would work in a marine environment.

@Cameron-ur2tk Год назад

To make it removable Glue your elbows, cut it in straight sections leaving like 2 or so inches before an elbow/fittings and use a couple 2 inch furncos to join the sections while also leaving the option to make it removable. Furnco are rubber coupling designed specifically for joining two pipes together, theres a couple different style but the all ruber with 2 stainless clamps would work just fine. Maybe i missed the part but why is your trap so low and why bother with PVC to ABS? FYI you can buy transition glue for pvc to abs. Its green and will get the plumber off your back.. if you must use pvc to abs thats the correct glue to use to glue the two together.

@alapikomamalolonui6424 Год назад

Butyl Tape 😊🤙🏄☘

@gever Год назад

16:11 Really enjoying following the progress! Currently wondering why you were concerned with UV exposure on the drain pipe but not on the exposed intake pipe coming through the top deck?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

It will get painted.

@redsailor101 Год назад

My thoughts are that the lower bend is to deep as the air has a very long way to go 🤔

@edengunworks1694 Год назад

Yes, if the boat lays over water won't pour through the cowl into the vent, they are so far separated that both under water isn't likely. But what about the drain and the vent? If the boat lays over on her starboard side just over 90 degrees, would the vent and the drain tube be below waterline at the same time?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Possibly, and there are a couple tweaks I can think of to fix it without much trouble. But, it's also possible that because the beam is less at the bow and the weight is mostly aft, that the whole system will stay above the waterline when on her side. We'll see.

@nicolascartier2868 Год назад

Hi cap' , nice work! For the vent system, the water won't get in if the boat is up side down, OK. But what if the boat lays en its side? If the tube is under the water level, won't it get in?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Hard to imagine the boat staying in that unstable position for more than a couple seconds. I think the drain will be above waterline even on her side due to the beam up at the bow being more narrow and most the weigh being back aft. But we'll see, some small adjustments can fix it if there's a problem.

@viktorlofstedt5955 Год назад

This will work fine, but since you are talking extreme cirumstance into account, I wonder if the water pressure is and indication of the pipe completely filling with water beyond the diameter. In other words blocking air flow before the water is drained. And could that lead to problems if air & water mixture is forced down the vent with the water pressing up. Doubtful, but something to be mindful of. Turning the vent away from the storm wind direction would solve that. Then there is the theoretical possibility of a venturi effect sucking air out instead of in. Again most likely not a realistic scenario..

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

This one up forward is actually only an exhaust vent. The cowl on deck will face downwind. Air will be sucked out of the cabin here. Air intake is back aft at the main bulkhead.

@toroddlnning6806 Год назад

dont you need another vent to create some sort of pull through and possibly some fans to blow the wind in the right direction?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

There are 2 vents, check out the video before this one, OCSS-050. No fans inside my vents, I want to keep things simple by reducing the amount of electrical components in the boat.

@lotophagi711 Год назад

No place for brass on a boat. Salt water leeches the zinc out the brass and it becomes brittle! Bronze or stainless , or plastic only please .

@Garryck-1 Год назад

This can't be stressed enough. Brass does *NOT* belong on a seagoing vessel!

@thematronsmilitia Год назад

That makes sense with zinc being the most common sacrificial anode

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thanks, I'll look around. Maybe some copper fitting would work.

@lotophagi711 Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat bronze or reinforced plastic only for strength.

@thumperoux1528 Год назад

Wouldn’t a higher vent on doghouse or it’s side offer safer and better ventilation ?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

There's an intake near the aft end of the doghouse, exhaust up forward by the mast. That way I get some air flow across the cabin.

@craigbeere2405 Год назад

Could you build another version of the same boat to sell?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Well... I guess if I can build one, I can build two.

@ende421 Год назад

Hm. Problem with your construction might be: On a starboard tack there can be water standing in the horizontal part between the first and the second elbow. If the boat is heavily rolling, the water will drain, but with a steady heeling to port it might prevent ventilation.

@cornishhh Год назад

There would be enough ventilation from the other side I think.

@SvenYrvindExlex Год назад

@@cornishhh The two must have flow at the same time, one in one out.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

I don't think much water will get in normally. Even when heeled, the natural movement of ocean sailing will empty that pipe in short order.

@mmac4047 6 месяцев назад

next time use a metal pipe tap and die to the pvc to put thread on tube drain.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat 6 месяцев назад

Good idea, thanks.

@PKAdventures Год назад

06:18 - in the future when trying to bend pipe or tube, cover 1 opening with duct tape, then fill the pipe with sand, then cover the other end with duct tape. then you can bend without it kinking. also, kink shaming isn't cool dude :P

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thanks, it's a good idea.

@PKAdventures Год назад

@@ocean_capable_small_sailboat no worries, you have given me so many ideas, i'm glad to be able to pay it back even if it's just a little bit

@areyoumad Год назад

If I understood correctly, there are going to be 4 of these vents, 2 at the front and 2 at the back of the cabin, right?

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Hi, just 1 forward and 1 aft.

@metheewatchakittikorn4796 Год назад

The fumes of heated PVC is very toxic.

@henrymorgan3982 Год назад

Very cool vent setup. I like how it drains. If you are looking for a 90 degree pecs, they make these small "brackets" that hold the pipe in the 90 degree position. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-okGf5pYHeuk.html Got some of this going on in my RV I'm living in! LOL!

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Thank you. I was trying to go for a tighter turn than that. I should have just used an elbow fitting from the start.

@johnnybillstrom5185 Год назад

Never silicone on a boat I think that vent should bi very strong an safe. Glue it very tightly and well. If u got a problem with that and the drain is near the waterline, u can’t sail on starboard tack.

@ocean_capable_small_sailboat Год назад

Sound advice. Someone suggested dielectric grease and that sounds like a pretty good option.

@youtruckrek5121 Год назад

cool

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