I have an ASHP and have not had any difficulty keeping the house warm. I am with Octopus and love their approach for energy. Having Ripple as part of their billing is also fantastic as I am seeing very low bills and even negative bills in the summer. I love that Octopus understand all of the sources that provide electricity and support all the clean energy options. Putting these in easy to understand options for customers is a win for everyone.
I've been trying to get Octopus to fix my smart meter for nearly 9 months now because I wanted a smart tariff to work with solar and home battery. After 2 smart meters not working they told me it was because there is no radio signal (for the half hourly meter readings). I was told an economy 7 meter can work without a radio signal, so the engineer turned up to fit that today. And surprise surprise, it's working as a regular meter - one rate total, no time of day tariff metering! How can I trust Octopus to do a heat pump if they can't even get an electric meter working as intended? I'm ripping my hear out and just want a solution that works...
This does sound wonderful the only problem is getting a working smart meter. We have been waiting nearly a year for octopus to install our smart meter (and still no word when it will be done). We have an EV so charging that is more costly than it need be. Even if a smart meter is installed it is doubtful that it will work, many in our area don’t because of the poor signal. There seems to be no compulsion for the companies that supply these signals to ensure they cover all areas.
Even old heatpums can be efficient if they are setup correctly in a system that is designed for low temperature operation. Have you have your installation reviewed by an expert?
There is an argument for using electricity to directly heat a thermal mass without the use of a heat pump. It can be used to store heat when supply exceeds demand to use later. Although not as efficient, the use of electrical power when in surplus, and therefore cheap, compensates for the lower efficiency. An example is using rooftop solar to heat domestic storage heaters to provide space heating in the evening and overnight. This can't be easily done with a heat pump because for compact storage of thermal energy the thermal mass reaches needs to reach very high temperatures.
Very short days in winter , very little solar power is generated but using cheap overnight electricity for storage radiators works , this was common 50 years ago.
@@philipegging And is a solution that should be resurrected now, especially with the advent of smart control. But no one is talking about it? It's all heat pumps. I gave the example of solar because I have such a system at home but of course surplus can be from wind and at off peak times and that surplus won't be between set times in the middle of the night as it was with Economy7 .
Any know if there are are plans for something larger than a 10 please? Last time I contacted a supplier of heat pumps they said o needed 2 of the largest valiant units and the cost was going to be 5x what it would cost to replace our condensing boiler.
@@thibaultmol I’ve just checked and using a rule of thumb we wouldn’t get away with less than 15kW and possibly a bit more as the insulation isn’t great. But we set our thermostats at 12 C in the winter and wear more clothes, so I don’t know if that impacts the calculation.
Without a proper heat loss survey, the company you've spoken to is just speculating. Very few homes will require more than a single unit. If you are confident with some technical design, the free online heat punk tool is very beginner friendly. Measure your rooms, your windows and doors and see what it calculates for you.
Hey, please have a proper survey carried out. And most importantly, use a reputable company. People are being sold a Ferrari when they need an escort. (Hope this analogy makes sense)
No, Octopus only sells heat pumps in the UK despite having commercial interests in Australia, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, and the United States. They have licensed Kraken to Saint John Energy (SJE) for demand management, so if anyone is going to have access to Octopus' heat pump technology, I would expect SJE would have it first.
@@anguscampbell1533 I don't work for Octopus, so I can't say for sure, but I doubt it. Any expansion into the retail markets of North America is likely to be via acquisition due to the regulatory overheads. I imagine Octopus are sitting on a pile of cash (due to how energy billing in the UK works), so taking over a major player in the USA or Canada might be possible.
@@davidsinclair144 Hi I think you misunderstand my comment. Kw is a measurement of energy. So as one kw form is equal to the other. The amounts dictate a positive gain. So why not use the gain to power the unit also? I hope that make it clearer.
No it doesn't have to be. I know what you're referring to but octopus energy has ways of going around that by using dynamic pricing and such.... It's still affected. But a heck of a lot less
100’s of Software engineers and still after over two years you cannot approve Givenergy EV Chargers for Intelligent Octopus Go. Why with all this technology is someone still sitting on his/her hands? You are an incredible consumer focus company but this is letting you down.
Sadly, the reality with ne, is rgat octopus have been a nightmare to deal with o er the proposed i stalkation of the cosy6. I have had my deposit placed since january, still waiting for it to be installed. Octopus keep moving g the goalposts and fail to listen to reason. Their heatpump team are incompetent and dont really know what they are doing from one day to the next. It is an infuriating experience for me.
Fantastic ways of smart control of energy, all completely negated if you live rurally and cant get a "smart" meter because the current network doesnt reach these areas (despite a large amount of public funding!)
Totally agree, I joined Octopus to access the innovative, environmentally friendly tariffs but have suffered over a year of frustration and financial loss because of the inability to get a functioning smart meter. Absolute joke.
Smart meters aren’t designed well enough and don’t work in many cases, they can cut off or limit your supply whenever they like and they could drain your car batteries if they needed to so you could be up shit creek in an emergency. They seem to have forgotten about the promised cheap electricity which will never ever be the case.
It’s scandalous that renewable generation is charging the same price as fossil fuel. Makes net zero farcical. As for ASHP, my house has microbore, and even though it’s insulated to death, I’m not re-piping my rads, so this rules ASHP out for me because I just won’t get a decent flow temperature.
It's not renewable generation that decides these prices, it's the way that energy prices are calculated, usually based upon the price of gas. Only the government can decide to change this. The renewable producers actually pay a windfall tax on the extra profits, unlike the fossil fuel giants who have get-out clauses on theirs. Microbore doesn't necessarily rule out a heat pump, may people with microbore have had heat pumps successfully installed and running efficiently.
Myth. Microbore pipework is more than adequate for most homes. We have a 140sqM 4 bed detached house with microbore pipework and our budget heat pump installation has managed a SCOP of over 4 in the first year. All documented on my own channel with all the facts and figures.
Why does renewable energy cost the same? 👇 Because the energy market is broken. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IEnFmrgEbWo.htmlfeature=shared
All of these heat saving methods are a waste of time. You pay extra for the latest technology to cut your fuel consumption.Then the energy company’s up there prices to cover the loss of income due to the reduced amount of fuel used. It’s a never ending circle.
You should be doing it to leave an environment your children's children can survive in.. not because you want to profit. But still, it's saved me money and I make half my own energy including for travel. I'd call that a win win.
Yes when your children are explaining to your grandchildren why we can no longer grow food in this country and our summers hit 45 C regularly, at least you can tell them that you saved a few quid on your heating by not “jumping on the bandwagon”.
