Shoutout to Oculus for sending this early! We're one of the very few channels that got early access to it! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Would you guys say the Quest 2 is a good upgrade over the Quest 1, or even a downgrade in some areas?
y didn't u talk about the Dragon XR2 processor you forgot to bring up a lot of valid internal topics that are important to the evolution of VR. I think you should make a part 2 just talking about the internal upgrades and of course, the exterior will suck, Oculus and Facebook needed to cut a lot of corners to improve the device itself where they could but I'm surprised that they could put such a powerful processor and graphics card for such a cheap price. Not to mention half a day is not enough time to fully evaluate the Oculus Quest 2.0.
@@13BangBang still as my first vr I’m glad I bought it I saved up for about 3 months I was ganna get oculus quest but my friend told me about oculus quest 2 so I got it for cheaper and it’s a little better i was more happy about the price
14:03 oculus does actually have a cloudsave feature, but its up to the developer to support it five nights at freddys for example uses it along with echo vr and rec room, where account data is saved to the cloud
@@helenrennie1527 Oop, I would suggest getting the quest 2. due to the fact that the quest 1 is now discontinued and wont be made anymore making it less populer. The quest 2 has more features and is overall a better experiance. Aslong as you use a facebook account.
The Upgrades outweigh the Downgrades by so much. Better resolution, higher frame rate, better ergonomic controllers with better battery, better performance, upgradable headstrap, maybe more.
People keep saying that the Q1 controller battery door keeps comming off, but I actually have trouble make it come off when I change batteries and I never had the issue where it comes off when playing. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, or if you guys are doing something wrong. lol
@@fredstead5652 is it really? I've heard bad things about the contrast and black levels along with the build quality. Apparently the lenses are more blurry in the peripheral (probably due to the finicky software based IPD adjuster). Have you experienced any of this? I want less screen door effect and improved refresh rate but I don't want to loose the black levels of the oled.
Most important question for me is: Is the tracking of the Oculus Quest 2 actually better compared to the Quest 1? Beat Saber is sometimes a$$ on the Quest...
@@wnynj1213 not bothered by the black levels. Suppose it depends on the game you’re playing but I’ve been playing Saints and Sinners which is pretty dark.
pre-ordered the quest 2 and the elite strap on Amazon and I cant wait till it comes, amazon has switched the text above the image of the quest 2 from Pre-order to Not yet shipped so I think they're just preparing it for shipment, I live in Canada and after Taxes the headset alone was $451.99 and I had free Amazon Prime shipping on top of that the quest 1 here was around $600ish before taxes and shipping so I'm glad they dropped the price
im not paying $70 aud for a strap. i think im going to wait for a 3rd party strap and put up with the first strap. if i did with the quest 1 then i think i cant use the quest 2 strap for a bit
Honestly, I got the Quest 1 like 4 months before release of Quest 2. But that's my first VR headset and I'm happy with the Quest 1 because it's not really a big improvement from Quest 1 to Quest 2. Also I dont really care about the graphics or the better resolution, I just like to play the games and have fun. One more thing, I tried the Quest 2 and the straps hurts my head, but the Quest 1 straps are great and conformable on my head. If there will be a Quest 3, I'll be getting the Quest 3 for sure.
@@lumbagosquad9691 the facebook requirement it's not a quest 2 esclusive, this applies on any oculus headset, so it's not a downgrade for the headset but for the brand
The oculus go is way better that the oculus 2 at least with go it has better graphics and faster refresh rate. The go is world class and who need a link cable when games are that great on the go.
Does the Link Cable feature work well? I've heard that it has some delay and issues as compared to a native PC VR experience, but I don't know if it has been updated for the Quest 2.
@@gamesmaster1060 you could get a good Wi-Fi 6 PCIe card for your PC and use it as a hotspot. That's what I'm doing, except I'm using the built-in Wi-Fi 6 card of my laptop. You could also buy a decent WiFi 6 router. Both should work.
quest 2 supports wifi 6 so if you have a good router you can play pc vr wireless! the only 2 requirements are a 5 ghz wifi + pc must be plugged in via cable and not also via wifi
Negligable. Used Vive in the past extensively. I expected the 72 hz to be bad and for the link to be meh. I was surprised to be wrong. The only downside I've found for Link is that it is more demanding on the PC.(related to native) Wifi VR has latency, it is fine in some games and annoying in others. Only noticeable when you Aim down sight and move the gun together with your head (the gun is delayed) in Wired link it's perfect.
I was wondering why you hadn't uploaded a review 2 or 3 weeks ago. Mine will arrive between 15 - 20 October, I can't wait, to ry VR for the first time.
LCD isn't a downgrade from OLED. Sure, colours are more muted (some might say more natural!) And the blacks aren't inky black (I'll give you that one), but the lack of black smearing thats inherent to OLED, resolution bump, twice as many sub pixels, and the higher refresh rate is a definite upgrade. I'd argue that resolution (and less SDE!) and refresh rate have more of an impact on immersion than overly saturated colours and black blacks (given that that then results in smearing). I do wonder what something like the QLED samsung panels would be like in a HMD. They are essentially LCD panels, but have great black levels (again not as dark as OLED but much better than normal LCD).
I got the Quest 2 and I must say I am conflicted. You were the only reviewer (of many many many I watched) who mentioned the severe downgrade in the black tone. Blacks look more like grey. I find Bigscreen VR and Half-Life Alyx (Link) almost unusable. Especially in the latter, the “grey” darkness is immersion breaking.
That's a problem amplified by Link itself. Link transmits a video signal with reduced color range (HDMI limited range; your TV can be set to that too) which means the black levels are decreased. Using Virtual Desktop you can get the full range, but of course VD is not Link and may not work for you. I just got a new router just for my Quest 1 so I can replaced Link with VD, not because of it being wireless but for the shocking difference in quality vs. Link; it really looks bad and Oculus should hurry up and upgrade the video quality!
MadMaxBLD Maybe, but I find Vader Immortal immersion breaking too: Oh, the view. The light grey triangle of a Star Destroyer on the dark grey background of Space...
@@hammadsheikh6032 Interesting. I'm on Quest 1 and the LCD display on the new Quest is keeping me from upgrading too, because of the supposedly brighter blacks. But I guess it's either that or the more pronounced screen-door of the pen-tile OLED display the Q1 has...
MadMaxBLD Yeah. Yesterday, I was staring into a room corner in Half-Life Alyx (after hearing a head crab) and all I was seeing was a solid wall of grey... I am already looking forward to the Quest 3, hopefully with microLED display.
I'm getting mine for Christmas so I'm just binge-watching all these types of vids to see what I can get from them. Just 4 more days to go! Can't wait!! (and I am a first time Vr user, so this will be really exciting for me!)
Given how well the Quest works for watching movies/shows, the Quest 2 is a huge upgrade just for the higher resolution imo. Definitely upgrading no question.
In the quality comparison at 12:05 you compare edges of the screens for resolution differences. The Quest 1 uses fixed foveated rendering at all times whereas the Quest 2 does foveated rendering only on demand. John Carmack talked about this in his last talk. So the comparison doesn't make that much sens imho. Comparing the centers reflects better on what the player actually experiences I'd think.
Curious about your saved game stuff, can you not plug the headset into a PC and open it up as a hard drive and pull your saved information that way then transfer them to the new Q2?
I have the quest 1 and I gotta say it is an absolutely amazing device. But the strap, front heavy-ness, and display quality definitely needed improvement...
The way of adjusting the lens for me is actually better because it’s less likely to get moved and re adjusted like the first oculus quest. Because if you put it down, the adjust slide could get moved
I have the version 1 and 2. Something about the 2 makes me feel drunk or dizzy. Even the menus bounce a little like I sometimes nod. Try factory reset and changing from auto to 60Hz. I’ve gone back and forth between the headsets and don’t have this issue in version 1. Talking to support maybe something is off with mine. Otherwise the resolution is nicer but not worth it unless I can fix this issue
Because something that costs a thousand dollars that also needs to be plugged into something that costs at LEAST that much is comparable to something that costs 300
I have all sorts of problems with what Facebook has been doing and my privacy is the least of it. Even so I could use it as a wireless headset for PCVR but my IPD is far enough from the presets that the higher resolution would have no benefit.
Feel like you missed a part about the IPD. It has 3 settings, Then you can use oculus software to fine tune it for anyone who is between those numbers. 61 etc.
I hope you don't hate me for pointing this out, but the Quest 1's OLED screen also has a pretty bad ghosting issue, which actually results in full echos, a few milliseconds behind, when pixels change between dark and bright colors. On the Oculus menu, look at a bright white Application icon, like the one for the RU-vid VR app, then move your head around, following the icon's logo with your eyes as your head moves. If you do it at just the right speed, you'll see a complete-readable echo of the Icon's logo/name, inside the white area of the icon, as you move. I tend to notice it a lot in certain bright games like Cloudlands2 and even Rec Room at times.. Once you see it, it's hard to unsee.. :/ If Quest 2 doesn't have that, I'll be happy.
Have a quest 1 and bought my son a quest 2. It really is a nice upgrade in resolution, I can tell going back and forth. 90hz in menus and browsing so that's nice. Can use the web browser and reading or watching movies is a lot better. Debating upgrading mine at this point. It has the downsides mentioned here in video and the IPD for me is better on 1 than 2. I'm at 61 and so in between the 58 or 63 setting not quite right for either setting but doable. Have some games that did get the upgrade and it's nice. Seems like a cheap vr for the price even for the 256Gb version.
i know im nearly 2 years late to this video but like i'd like to say taht the quest 2 actually does some really cool stuff when it comes to the pupillary distance stuff. You can actually adjust the lenses to points *in between* the numbers on the little window between the lenses, and when wearing the quest after changing the distance, IT WILL LITERALLY TELL YOU THE DISTANCE FOR YOUR SETTING IN LIKE EXACT MEASUREMENTS!! so that means you can manually set it to a near infinite number of distances (provided that your eyes arent really far apart or close together) and basically set it to your exact needs for maximum clarity. ITS CRAZY!!
lol IMO The Quest 2 is MUCH WORSE than the Quest one... The Quest 2 speakers are way worse due to the fact that the vibrate on your face... The Straps are to tight or too loose and hurt OVER TIME... The blacks (oled) is a HUGE downgrade to the Quest one... The big caveats is how upgradable the Quest 2 is compared to the Quest one... and weather you use PC link... If you use PC link and pixel mods to boost pixel density, the Quest one is way BETTER than the Quest 2 stand alone... It has better IPD, better blacks, more comfortable, better strap... and better sound... If you have a Quest one than the HP reverb 2 is the better upgrade at 600 bucks but its wired... however its much better headset over all including graphics.
Waiting for Q3 now, hoping they will learn from their mistakes of Q2...hopefully Q3 will feature high (er) FOV and OLED kind of display but with no SDE (or much minimal SDE than Q1), bottom line is Q2 ain't as good as people may make you think it is and so we need Q3 to actually upgrade our wireless VR experience, for now I'm gonna use my old Q1 instead.
I just got the O2 and had an O1 for awhile, first thing I noticed is the boxy FOV on the O2, its a cheaper build, and quite frankly its visually like for like for me. I am mainly using my Quest1 for Virtual Desktop Steam VR gaming from my computer, which is an awesome combination. I love that the setup is wireless and I can play in a free room vs where my PC is which has limited mobility. My current take, skip the O2 if you have the O1 its not worth the upgrade, parts internally might be better, but build quality went backwards, manual lens adjustment vs slider, etc;
I think it’s upgrade, having both of them and still playing on the quest and quest 2 the battery life on the controllers are way longer on the quest 2! I’ve had it for 2 weeks and I haven’t had to change the battery’s in the controller(I play daily) and also the quest 2 looks so much better with 90FPS with the new 23 update 90FPS is enabled automatically it’s great
A phenomenal upgrade, especially when you increase the resolution via sidequest. Glad oled was dropped, black levels on og quest didn't defeat the screen door or low resolution which were the primary distracting issues. A clear, bright, higher refresh screen which actually features more accurate colours than OG Quest is a major win.
Watched the video but not sure if I totally understood. So if anyone could answer, that would be great! 1) Will my games from Quest 1 transfer to Quest 2?? Like Onward and Beatsaber. 2) Will a lot of my current accessories from Quest 1 be able to be used on the Quest 2?? Such as my VR Shell, controller grips from AMVR, or even my current VR Cover replacement face pad. 3) Will the elite strap with battery really be worth it compared to the regular elite strap??
You'll be able to play all your Quest games purchased, on Quest 2 - but the reviewer did mention that if you've already started a game on Quest 1, you can't continue that game on Quest 2...instead you'd have to start the game from the beginning again in order to play on Quest 2.
I need to say for the Performance its netter top i Played onward in quest 1 and it always crashes After 3 rounds abaout 15 min it Starts to lag and then the quest locks an broken Image and you need it to force shutdown the oculus so i Think the more RAM and the better Prozessor is worth it
I ended up going with a Quest 1. The FOV is really what sold me on buying the 1 instead of the 2. The FOV is a lot smaller on the quest 2, I’d rather have a slightly worse resolution and a decent enough 72hz display with a wider FOV, than have my headset feel like i’m wearing goggles
Personally, I don't think I would bother having a lower fov, due to me wearing glasses, I'm used to turning my head to if I want to look at something, because It becomes out of focus otherwise.
The quest one you can see the space between the pixels, quest 2 those are reduce significantly, the oled screen isn't really that amazing when the resolution is fairly low
Nah they won't. Quest 2 games are basically android mobile phone games in VR. U need a pc to play steam games. Android games are limited to 2.5gb maximum size. Games like Cyberpunk 2077 are like 100gb.
I got my Quest 2 today...I didn’t even try it on with the original strap. As soon as it came out of the box I was ripping that off and putting the Elite Strap on. 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly.. I’m not that impressed.. it’s pretty rubbish watching a movie in prime or Netflix in a dark grey room, it’s like you’re sitting in a Smokey room.. so glad I didn’t get rid of my q1.. the colors are way better in the original quest..I’m glad I bought the q2, tried it, now I can stop thinking about it.. legit using my q1 until they optimise it better..I legit think it’s a downgrade.. if anyone thinking about buying it to replace the q1.. eh.. for me those black levels are a deal breaker..terrible..anyone who says otherwise is completely delusional..
the quest in my country is 375 dollars with freebies (case, lens cover, and grip for the controller) while the quest 2 is 520 dollars without any freebies. which one should i get?
This was a pre-release version of the headset. That said, OLED has deeper blacks than LCD in the Quest 2 so there will be a difference - but not nearly as extreme as what is shown in this video.
@@ULTIMATEPATCHES it has nothing to do with the pre-release The original quest had an OLED screen which has better blacks than the quest 2's LCD screen..
@Dusk to me oleds are still superior over lcd tough, maybe oculus quest 3 will have an oled display till then for me at least the oculus quest 1 is more than enough
