Movario plays a central role in the While Guthix Sleeps quest (and ritual of the mahjarrat there after) on RS3. He was added with the dorgesh-kaan release as an early teaser for WGS back in 2007. The quest released about 1.5 years after he was added.
Fun fact about the hemenster arrowtip chest: there's a Kandarin diary task to steal from it, but you can also complete this task by stealing from the arrowtip chests in Relekka or the mourner tunnels under Ardy, because they all share the same Object ID.
I came across this fact after recording everything, definitely would’ve included but it was a bit late. It’s funny to know they just copy pasted tho lol
Another instance of copy pasting objects is the door at the duel arena office (next to the teleport) and the door in the HAM hideout after descending the trapdoor also share the same object IDs@@JoshIsnt.
As you mentioned in the video, the Chaos Druid tower was added with Thieving back in classic, and you're right that back then runes were especially hard to come by. Thieving was at the time one of the best ways in the game to get often sought after runes, and Ardougne especially was ripe with opportunities for this sort of crime. You can get a ton of chaos runes by pickpocketting paladins, which with the Chaos Gauntlets became one of the most cost effective ways deal magic damage in combat. There are also a couple chests with nature runes in them, which were also highly sought after for alching. Blood runes especially were among the hardest to get in the game, and were needed to cast the god spells, which were the best in the game, especially used for pvp. Thieving that chest under the Chaos Druid Tower was one of the best ways to farm blood runes, even with it teleporting you away every trip (assuming you had the thieving level for it). Very few monsters dropped blood runes, and those that did dropped them very rarely and only one at a time. The only monster with a decent drop rate for blood runes was the KBD, and that required very high combat stats to farm effectively. This scarcity of runes is why the introduction of Runecraft in RS2 was such a big deal, and also why it was such a pain to train. Compared to existing methods at the time, it was a dramatically faster source of runes. It just so happens that it was eventually surpassed by drops from Slayer and other monsters to the point where you no longer need to do any Runecraft to have all the runes you could ever need just from drops alone.
@@JoshIsnt If I recall it was put in specifically for that use, since otherwise you'd have to run through the whole Ogre City just for that 1 step. I remember even voting for it.
@@sanddude20 looks like you’re right! Honestly kinda guessed that it was just part of the original design since there are lots of weird agility shortcuts in the area
Those chaos druid tower chests actually came in handy for me! I started a chunkman in the farm north of ardy, that tower was my home for a good few months!
The molly thing is kind of a leftover from how randoms used to work. If you ignored the sandwich lady (she sadly never brought stale baguettes), she would teleport you away. A few did the teleporting, others like mr Jekyll would attack you.
lol as an old rs player, the chest under the chaos druid tower used to be known as "the blood rune chest" it was one of the only reliable ways to get blood runes back in the day
Funny you should mention the Temple of Ikov trapdoor. A small OSRS RU-vidr I watch called Valiance is a new player doing quests blind, and just a few hours ago he uploaded his video of the Temple of Ikov quest. Not knowing how the bridge worked, he made extensive use of that trapdoor!
I bet not following quest guides is a great way to come across some really obscure interactions that most players would never see while following a walkthrough
Love how you provide little history lessons about rs. Learning about the yanille agi dungeon was one of my favorite parts of the yanille chunk series. Love the vids man, keep up the good work.
There's actually an explanation as to why that door by the Dramen Tree to the Wildy exists! Lost City was a quest that was released in 2002, while the home teleport spell wasn't added into the game until 2006. So RSC and early RS2 players (back in 2004/05) had to use that door to get out to finish the quest. If they made it safely, Quest Complete. If they didn't, then they'd have to get the branch again. I assume that's also why that quest is tied to the criteria for the Dragon Longsword and Dragon Dagger.
The random trapdoor in hemenster was wild, it's just an extremely specific softlock preventer for an extremely obscure area, who knew! And the entrana to boneyard shortcut was REALLY cool! I can definitely see that being useful. Excellent video as always!
Honestly a very interesting vjd would defo watch more of them. I found your inclusion of the weird workings of yannile to be a quality edition that adds depth and flavor to your chunk series, keep it up josh.
Lol I gotta be that guy that used the chaos druid tower. Back in the day the Tav ones were packed a lot of the time and that was a decent spot to try instead as an early member trying to make some money. Was fun seein some people running back for the chests below as I think that was a semi decent way to get blood runes back then too Back in the day I only had like an hour of dial up a day and competing in packed areas was rough, learning of weird spawns and dif locations really helped me back then, love these weird old vids btw brings me back to my younger self researching anything I could about this game to be the in person wiki for my pals back in school.
12:50 these blood rune chests were actually how I got my first full set of rune and dragon longsword back in the day in runescape classic. Runecrafting wasn't out yet and blood runes were popular because of the god spells, so it was great money at the time. There's also nature rune chests in ardy which was fairly popular before rc.
These fun obscure discoveries are why I love this game. Jagex didn’t NEED to add these places and actions that give random xp, but they did. It shows consistency with the core of OSRS’s gameplay and lore. It’s also reminiscent of true MMOs back in the day when they were about discovery and sharing those discoveries with real players you encounter. God I love this game.
I'd always wondered about that trapdoor but just assumed it was something in the goblin caves that I'd forgotten! You're right in that the area south of Ardougne & its underground are some of the most cluttered and weird parts of the game lmao, whenever I remember the Clock Tower dungeon I'm taken aback by how absolutely bonkers and unnecessary it is. Here's a few other oddities in the Ardy area: - The Necromancer Tower NE of the Tower of Life is weird all-round. Two random named NPCs who have no use, one of which can spawn zombies when you attack him and one whose only noteworthy bit of information on the wiki is that he's "shorter than the player and the average human NPC". - The Hazeel Cult sewers/dungeon has a portion of the map that still exists in-game but has been entirely inaccessible since RuneScape Classic - The Fight Arena. Just generally. It's basically an entire town/village but doesn't have any name other than "Fight Arena" (and yet the nowhere-land that is Hemenster is named??) and has a pub that you've probably been to once for the quest and then never again - The Handelmort Mansion in the centre of Ardougne has a fairly large footprint for a building you only enter once for the quest Tribal Totem. ....You remember Tribal Totem, right? ..No? Tribal Totem takes place largely around Ardougne and is, in my opinion, the most forgettable quest in the whole of OSRS. Go ask anyone with a Quest cape what happens in that quest. They won't be able to tell you a single detail. - The Legends Guild dungeon is the only place you'll find the Shadow warriors, an NPC that was popular to kill in RSC for a chance to roll the Gem Drop Table and get the Shield left half. These NPCs are really weird: they don't have yellow dots on the minimap, and despite wielding battleaxes they attack at the speed of a scimitar. They're also, shockingly, not *entirely* pointless, being possible slayer tasks from Vannaka and Chaeldar!
Movario is part of While Guthix Sleeps. This was the best quest in RS2, and will eventually be added to OSRS much like Path of Glouphrie was. Anyone who played WGS as a kid was amazed by the scope and the sense of adventure. Movario was added in 2007 in preparation of the quest's release in 2008.
@@Noxlion28 mod ed has confirmed that WGS is coming to osrs at some point before OSRS's version of Ritual of the mahjarrat, as for the lore, the story seems that it will be the same based on the dialogue that Hazelmere says during path of glouphrie.
forgot to say, the goldpanning in the dig site was one of my FAVORITE things to do as a kid. It was loot boxes but for small beginner items lmao. They were actually a really handy source of gems for crafting exp I remember
I was going fully "🤓I KNEW THAAAAT ONE 🤓" mode for just about all of these but I'm still super happy to see these kinds of old obscure details talked about, I think you've highlighted some ideas for weird and cool content as well: A digsite-supply-locked account(I'd really like to see how far repairing the broken weapons and armour could get you), poison chalice roulette, or a pvp wilderness match where you're only allowed to prep with whatever you can bring through to that door in the Entrana dungeon. Even if we don't see them come up all that often with all the content we've got nowadays, it's these little things that really make Runescape stand out from all the focus-tested and market-researched MMOs that are too carefully planned and polished for these delicious tidbits of jank and junk. It really reminds you that this whole thing started off as a bunch of brothers having fun and telling a story. P.S. I don't usually impulse-buy things youtubers pitch me in their promos but I pretty much instantly decided I needed a glowing dragon scimmy on my wall. I wonder how many viruses downloading that dscim cursor gave my old family computer...
I totally agree that this is where the charm of RuneScape comes from. All the unintentionally, obscure jank that fills out the world and gives a sense of history and depth that new games simply can’t recreate
Watched the whole Yanille documentary and loved it, and absolutely love content like this showcasing weird and interesting little things added in. Would love a video that is nice shots of bespoke liminal spaces and the whole osrs runescape ost, it seems very good together
When you showed the poison chalice, I expected this to be a rehash of all the other "things you didnt know" or "107 fun facts" but I actually learned somethings I didn't know even as an ironman that does weird stuff all the time for fun
The Chaos Druid tower may be obscure in OSRS, but back in the day farming Chaos Druids for herbs there was actually incredibly popular. That tower and Taverly dungeon were the meta for low level herb gathering.
I remember that trapdoor in Draynor. Christmas 2005 was wild with how many items you got. There were four hats, four scarves and three marionettes. One of the hats (a blue one) used to look so much like the blue phat that Jagex actually changed its model to accentuate its yellow puffballs so that players wouldn't be confused or try to trade the person wearing it for an item they didn't have.
Movario's inclusion is such a funny case because he's a teaser for content that was added _just_ after the cutoff point of where OSRS decided to pick back up. Which means that in the OSRS timeline, he's spent the last several decades bumbling around in the caves near Lumbridge in search of the Stone, only a few screens away from its resting place, but never able to find it no matter how hard he tries. Pretty far cry from the genius explorer that Movario is in RS3.
The Ardy chaos druid tower is where I got 45 herblore for Legends Quest back in Runescape Classic. Don't wanna think about how slow the xp rates were back then compared to now, that took ages xd
You straight blew my mind with that ardougne manhole. I was like "no way". I've straight up never been in that area in my life. I have gone in the ratcatchers part though. My favorite liminal space is the very south east corner of the wilderness. You're probably aware of it if you've got the wildy video packed. I suspect very few people have ever gone there. It feels so surreal being places you've never been before that have been there all along in this relatively small gameworld
10:15 There is a chunk account named Entrana Bro with a RU-vid channel that used that door as a next rollable chunk and had to get drops from skeletons to progress.
that diango trap door area was something I hadn't realized I had seen before until I saw it again and got a nostalgia flashback to being 5 years old and not knowing what the hell I was doing but was having a blast
I had no idea who movario was when i was doing the lumbridge diaries a while back, i went to the course and was very confused to find out he was nowhere to be found. Turned out you need to finish the temple of ikov quest to even spawn him, but it isn't listed as a requirement for the diary anywhere
The Entrana "Magic Door" is how I lost my full graceful when I was a little noob who didn't know you could bring runes to Entrana and didn't think to home tele :)
The chaos Druid tower used to be one of the best places to make consistent money in osrs. Its closeness to a bank and the high cost of unidentified herbs made it one of the most used places in the game for a while.
About the trapdoor at 16:00, I recently went and completed Temple of Ikov on a new account. If you wear Lucien's pendant and haven't received the Staff of Armadyl yet, when interacting with the trapdoor it says "I wouldn't dare go down there!" Or something along those lines, instead of "nothing interesting happens".
That 71 agility shortcut in Gu'tanoth is actually important. There's a clue scroll step that takes you there but in order to cross a bridge prior you need to pay an ogre a fee. The shortcut skips that and saves a little time.
I remember back around 08 or so a lot of higher ranked agility people used to train at that Dorgesh course over ape atoll. The chests used to be one of the best ways to get green charms outside of combat after summoning. Pretty sure they changed it later on though.
PLEASE YES more fun facts, give us Dorgesh Kaan, give us Wildy and liminal space facts plz! I need this a beautiful series alongside Sir Lumbington and Yanille Chunk
16:12 there used to be an old lure where the lurers would have the victim be -1 kg flat and then ask them to drop their cash stack/noted items to the other side of the bridge. They'd have the victim cross the bridge back and forth and at some point toss them a Gnomeball (weighing 0.5 kg) which would put them over -1 kg and have them fall. As you'd have no chance to run back in a minute, the items would eventually appear for the lurers to take.
Movario was used later in rs3 when While Guthix Sleeps came out - he turned out to be a villain related to the Mahjarrat who's hideout you sneak around to gather info
Your video was awesome, even though I already knew some of those facts from playing since 2005. Here's a fun fact that not many people know: if you refuse to leave Zandar Horfyre in the Dark Wizards' Tower near Falador, he'll actually teleport you to the Lumbridge Swamp! I think it's one of the treasure trail coordinate locations. ;)
I know way way back I used to farm the chaos druid tower for runes back before runecrafting. I also died and lost my first set of rune trying to get runes from the spawn in the dark warrior castle. Needless to say, back then getting the magic level for telegrab for Dragon Slayer was a feat few could muster the strength for. I'm pretty sure people still use the chaos druids there as one of the closest chaos druid spawns to a bank.
Back in the day (05' to 06') the chaos druid tower was a very popular training/money maker spot. Normally chaos druids were either in the wilderness (very dangerous for most noobs like me) or in seemingly dangerous dungeons. This spot was great for lower levels to get Unidentified herbs for profit! I had fond memories of training theiving in ardy square to unlock the tower. Then i used the cakes from the cake stall to train agility in brimhaven so i coule cross the log balance. Finally i noticed the chest in the basement and heard you could get blood runes from it. Bloods felt so expensive back then so i trained up to 59 theiving to get the blood runes i needed to unlock my favorite god spell (flames of zamorak) at the mage arena. This was one or the many adventures i had back in the day as a kid when i first made the long journey on foot to Ardy. Dont even get me started on the dangerous trek over white wolf mountain.
Movario wound up getting a lot of development in RS3 as a freelancing Zamorakian scientist and archeologist who worked for Lucien during While Guthix Sleeps. He made that area where you use the broav pet. I genuinely forgot he's in OSRS. I wonder if with them taking that questline in new directions he'll still show.
19:10 nope we trained at the skellys/ scorpions/ red deadly spiders/ lesser demons at karjruma island, then once you’re like killing it with Gold (GP) you’d either quest enough yourself or trust trade ur money over to someone who could get into the champions guild, to buy your rune longsword, chainbody, plate legs. Then pay someone a lot for an addy kite shield. After that you needed food. So before herb skill, feller in varrock bring him a root vial he’d make you a stre pot, so you’d have cake/pizza/ or lobby’s, with some stre pots. Run into deep wildy and fight the greater demons, for a chance of the rune full helm drop. Back then that helm could run you 150k-1m gp. Pending who was selling it. I remember running out to Greaters once. My friend DoubleBubble was training there, so was Tronsqueen and Trons1000. They were with their friend Who’s name was Muhahahaha and he was combat level 148. I freaked. 😅
An interesting fact about the chest in Hemensyer is that it is coded exactly the same as one of the chests and Relleka and you can actually complete the diary from the chest in Relleka as well. Learned that from A Northern UIM video
The tower at 12:40 is probably known by players back then. That place was PACKED back in the day. There was rarely times it was open if you tried to hop to every world available. Perhaps that speaks to players on when they played the game.
I actually hit up the Chaos Druid Tower a handful of times on my UIM to quick grab some low level herbs from them that I needed for quests early on. It's quicker to get to vs Edgeville dungeon and also not in the wildy to boot
The Dorgesh Kaan agility course is indeed very underrated! It was my top choice for the grind to 99 way back when. Iirc it gives much better pet chance and barely less xp than Ardy. Penguin is the best pet chance in the game but it's got terrible xp! Lol after you explained what that trap door in Hemenster is for I immediately remembered that I'd used it on my alt. I was trying to get as much gear on me as possible and managed to get an amount of weight that was just above zero but still rounded down to zero on the stats screen. Even though that screen showed my weight was "zero," I fell into the lava and found myself needing to visit the bank to offload some junk lol (or maybe I just dropped a food item before the bridge for my next attempt, icr!)
The ogres in the chaos Druid tower were excellent training in RuneScape classic and there would be 2-3 people on every world thieving the chest and killing the ogres. Blood runes were worth a lot
@@JoshIsnt i can’t remember exactly but xp for killing monsters was like other skills so you got a set xp per monster not a set xp per damage. Also blood runes were worth a lot and there wasent very good training methods for prayer. Also most of us were 12 or 13 so we didn’t know any better. I actually saw Paul Gower there one day
i didn't know the sewer in ardy connected to the ardy rat pits. this is why i always watch these. Movario just casually looking for the cabbage of jas i guess
I use the gutanoth agility shortcut for a clue step. There are also several clue steps at the digsite which is the only real reason I've gone back besides cannoning the skeletons there one time.
If you completed the 2005 christmas event the large box next to the trapdoor to diango's workshop will hold 4 differently coloured marionettes which you can grab and use to play some animations.
the random event teleporting you to random places is just left there from ALL the random events, if you failed to talk to them they would either knock you out and drag you somewhere or just attack you.
"OMFG guys have you ever noticed that when you teleport to Varrock, there's a big fountain right there!? How many times have you guys ran past this without realising?!"
okay but actually that chaos druid tower, when osrs released I treated those babies like rock crabs and trained my melee stats there. got a decent amount of gp from selling the (at the time) unidentified herbs that I got from them
Hey man, I was doing agility on my ironman whilst enjoying your video and you mentioning Dorgesh-Kaan Agility course I wanted to try it out. I went to AJQ fairy ring location and ran west a short bit to the Blocked tunnel and went through and ended up in the kalphite lair (the level above kalphite queen) I was amazed, I will definitely use this route later on as you skip the first rope going down the well. Very cool!
The chaos druid tower was a less crowded place to get unidentified herbs for money making back in RS2. It was nice when they finally switched to grimy versions though because there was always the potential of shady practices with herb selling and buying.
