Oddworld Lore: Mudarchers & Tomahawkers 

A lot of Mudokon videos lately.... Which do you prefer, the Tomahawkers or the Mudarchers?

I always found it weird that after their escape, you didn't see Mudokons taken up fallen, stolen or blackmarket slig weapons. Like a Mudokon version of the Native Americans using repeating firearms vs the US cavalry at the battle of wounded knee. Maybe Oddworld inhabitants wanted the free Mudokons to be a rejection of all the industrialists ways, including firearms.

You know what would would have been awesome if Hand of Odd got released? If they let you play as Sligs, Mudokons, Gabbits, and vykkers and choose different classes that they have.

I'm trying to improve my English and now I discover this channel, I'm a fan of Oddworld, but in Spanish we haven't a "loremaster" that explain it well like you. Thanks for this content!! I'm going to watch the full playlist!

The Munch's Oddysee remaster should have included that glowing energy in the gems of the tomahawkers' cudgels, but they just got even less shiny

I like to think those orbs can cast some sort of spells, but the Mudokans are just a little bit Dim witted so they club their enemies with them

I love they don't depict mudokons as hapless idiots that can't do anything. It would have been so easy to do that.

I like the Mudarchers they are my favourite Mudokons with their weapons ^_^

I wasn’t expecting a video on this subject, but I’m glad it was made now that it is!

Always wondered about these shmucks. Some of my favorite depictions in the series.

This game, this lore, its old and underrated, I simply love it idk, I just finished stranger's wrath, it was awesome and also you are awesome because you are the only person who make videos about this whole universe of Oddworld. Keep it up.

Be great that in the end of a game for the finale the would have a bunch of muddokons from different tribes attacking Soulstorm all at once

Gotta love that RU-vid didn't send me the video notification, but hey, I'll take any new Oddworld stuff. Thanks Pupbenny

We need some new Oddworld games purely so you can create content around it - I look forward to that day! Love this channel

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this will never happen but what I'd love to see is an oddwolrd RTS. it'd have 2 factions: mudokons and the magog cartel. mudokons would have faster units that hit hard and would focus more on guerilla warfare, they'd hit fast and hit hard, usually avoiding massive direct confrontations. they'd also have various magic tricks like mind control, teleportation (limited obviously, we don't want them to teleport everywhere non stop), invisibility (not the unbreakable kind, I'd make it detectable with various units/buildings and make it turn off while they attack) I'd also give them beasts to ride on to play the role of vehicles. the magog cartel would focus more on brute force, sending hordes of different sligs to go die for their masters and maybe heavy vehicles to take their opponents down. I'd also make their tactics... crueler. they'd definitely deploy incendiary, chemical and radiation weapons in war. that and I'd give them suicide bombers cause they really don't give a shit about their minions. EDIT: scratch the part about oddworld rts not happening, hand of odd is a thing apparently, I hope it comes out soon.

Pertaining to the tomahawkers using clubs, i think its interesting as i learned from a reenactor at jamestown that the native iroquoi made use of two families of weapons with 'ahawk' suffixes. Tomahawks were axes while Monahawks were stone war clubs, either ball headed or sometimes even having multiple stones embedded in the side to make a blade, much like aztec war clubs (though cruder)

It would have been a cool addition to use the resource you used to upgrade troops to use in commander ability like spells to buff or heal your troops on the field. This would have been a cool way to have you decide what kind of playstyle you want to go for being swarm in numbers with melee and heal them, invest more into a few ranged units and spend the rest healing them as you fight on in a battle of attrition or go for a melee ranged mix with no spells to blitz the enemy at the risk of taking losses over time.

I would love to see an OddWorld RTS.

Is it just me or does the bone that forms the tomahawk kind of look like a 3 fingered hand holding the orb

I loved Abes Odyssey as a kid. Now my 3 year old son loves Abe. It will sit and watch me play for hours and occasionally try himself.

mudokons should have siege weapons like cataputs or Ballistas to take down companys buildings or infantry units like slig riflemen

i love ur blue abe skin

Hey bro, enjoy the videos, always been an Oddworld fan myself since I was a kid. One criticism/question however, when quoting someone do you have to do a silly voice? As its really unnecessary & I skip the quotes so I don't have to suffer that voice you make 😂

how lucky i am to have munchs oddysee. I would personally prefer to use the mudarchers. Sad that they are only used in like 4 levels.

it could also be that as the mudokens are just begining to regain theyre lost power that classes like the tomahaker and muarcher may end up just being the aprentence levels on a path to greator offencive and defencive powered classes, like graduation from yellow bult and discovering the long road ahead to black belt through progressivly more advanced and intence forms of training. im not familier with it, but id guess similer is done in training to become a shoalin monk, a sort of real world equivilent to the mudokin fighters. gotta be some great power that was used to batter theyre moon into a hand print.

It would have been cool if there was a third upgrade to your modcens or however, you spell the species name. That would use the original Tomahawker design that use both the crossbow and club.

can you review stranger and the creatures in that game too

Can they add these leveld up Mudokons to newer games plz

Please release the Hand of Odd game.

i dont know why you dont have more subs...

Am sad no hand of odd

Wut

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I hope that hopefully in the soulstorm sequel we will see his return or more context on the lost culture of the Mudokons and the Keeper revelations 🐝🏹🦴🔮

I was addicted to the sound effects the Mudarchers make with their weapons as a kid. The fact that it's just a Slig machine gun sound slapped onto it is so strange yet satisfying. Made me really want to see every Tomahawker get transformed.

I think the glowing gemstone concept art for the tomahawkers might indicate that there was some sort of way to 'boost' them in an earlier version. Like you see in some RTS games. Maybe having a shaman or some other support unit nearby would have empowered the nearby warriors in terms of damage, adding a magical effect to their armaments. - would also reinforce the idea that Mudokons would strategically rely more on eachother, rather than the industrialists' tactics of waves of sligs or if that doesn't work, roiding up sligs. Especially in an RTS having a design element like that clearly communicates when a specific attack bonus, for example, is active, is just good game-design. Would've been a cool mechanic to see in hand of odd.

I've always wondered who or what the bones of the weapons belong to. Scrabs perhaps? Or maybe a creature that didn't make it into the final game.

i always found awesome while playing munchs oddysee to have mudokons fight back with there own tecnology against sligs

We should make a petition for a developement of a new oddworld game that gives us a proper war i would love an FPS/RPG set in oddworld

sligs:noo you cant defeat ours bombs and guns with bone gem ridded crossbow!!! murdarchers:hehehe pew pew pew!

You could argue that giving the Mudokons weapons kinda changes what Oddworld is as a game, your supposed to treat the environment like a puzzle, get around obstacles and escape, but honestly I feel like Mudokons becoming warriors just makes too much sense to not be explored, what's to stop a bunch of workers breaking into a slig armory and fighting back? Or just hitting them over the head with any number of tools.

An Odd World Total War game would be amazing. Haha

:) 👍

Abe is just better

Another note is in the first two games you only have industrial muds following you and the scrubs in munch (other than the finale) don't become warriors All the natives in the first game don't trust him at all yet. In. Munch it's the first time the natives help out. Although maybe they are the ones freed in the first two games.

How do you get the cut scenes of mudokons farming or fishing on the river? Do you create them yourself or do you find them?

nice to see the potential of the mudokans a becoming more aggressive towards their oppressors

ok off topic but would the Slig make the best "WUT?" emote?

How did you change the mudokons the look like PS1 Abe?