Odin 3 - Review, Tips and Tricks  

Thank you for sharing that. I have not used it clean yet.

@@synapticschism no problem

Yeah, some of these plugins are so good. Wait until I review the bass VST instruments. You can get an hint of the quality early in this video.

Not directly, no. Odin 3 gets MIDI as an input, so if you want to do that you either need a guitar with MIDI pickups or find a way of translating audio to MIDI, which is possible but often painful. Even if you do it, the biggest issue is that it won't recognise articulations, so you'd still need to program something.

Yes, it's possible to combat it. The solution is a lot of manual tweaking. I have a track named John Doe Redux. I got a lot of feedback that I was playing really well and the truth is that everything was programmed. Some people humanize the midi but I never found that very useful. What I usually do is, riff by riff, strum by strum, and manually humanize with subtle articulation changes, tempo changes and effects (if the guitar has them). I didn't do that here as you noticed and to be honest it is a lot of hard work. You have to listen to it and determine what is that a guitarist would do here. I think it's almost impossible for someone who doesn't play the instrument since it doesn't have the feel for it.

Double drop C is the lowest Odin 3 does. If you want to compare the lowest note or how low other guitars go (DJAA MAASTA goes lower) check this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l0vqd2yBvp0.html

I haven’t tried djaa or axure but Odin is weak for those chugs imo especially with amp sims it’s got a brootal tone but I love a chug and even the fi falls flat in Odin I’m really interested in axure atm my favourite library’s to date are shreddage hydra and vmetal I’m wondering if any of these even live up to those

@@Ambitiouz_mindset I agree. I have been using Odin II until now. But it seems like we have the same problem, the chuggs sounds weak and thin. From what I've heard Hydra might be a bit more articulate but not that much different. I think that Hydra and Odin fit more the djent and modern metal style. For huge chuggs we might have to look somewhere else..

For really low chugs I'd pick Djaa Maasta. Since the "chugging question" is poking on several comments, I'll try to have a short video comparing the guitars later this evening.

@@synapticschism that would be awesome thank you! 🙏

@@synapticschism Than you so much that would be awesome !🙏🏼 If you could include Axe Machina as well to this comparison that would be perfect

This one. Right now I have 5 guitar plugins and in my head all of them serve specific purposes. Keep in mind I still have to write a full track to really understand the pros and cons of my new guitar VSTs but I think Odin 3 is the overall best and Djaa Maasta is the super gnarly low-tone one which means Djaa Maasta would take specific riffs or be used for layering because I don't write in very low tones. I hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.

@@synapticschism Yes, even though i havent tried it Djaa Maasta yet i agree Odin III maybe be better "overall" but, for low tunning metal songs (like double drop E that both can do) would you preffer Odin III or Djaa Maasta? maybe i feel Odin DI is kinda "thin" sounding(?)

@@SHINDE1RU Djaa Maasta's sound is more gnarly and raw than Odin 3's. That's what Otto Audio does and targets: really low-register guitars. And they do it really well! So to answer your question, if I ever write a really low-tuned gnarly riff, I will choose Djaa Maasta, even though I think Odin 3 is the better overall guitar.

I think Odin 3 is better but I can't compare it to Shreddage Hydra or previous Odin versions since I don't have those. I'm testing an IR Loader and I'm getting quite good chugs with Odin 3. I can put up a quick short video tonight comparing the chugs of the various guitars, with the same amp and IRs. Would that help you?

@@synapticschism that would be hugely appreciated because I like the idea of axure guitar with that chug knob looks intriguing but some stuff isn’t friendly with amp sims I found Odin 3 to be very bright or something and not a lot of defined when it goes that low. Maybe it’s the amp I use who knows

@@Ambitiouz_mindset the Axure pick and chug knobs add an extra layer on top of the tonal sound. Which amp sim are you using? And one more thing, would slow palm mutes be enough to evaluate the guitars?

@@synapticschism but of both slow and fast kinda nu metal style chugs to djent style chugs I’m using the laney Ironheart amp sim

@@Ambitiouz_mindset ok I'll work on that in some hours.