I was on a carrier as enlisted. I saw some Ensigns bitching about 4 had to share a stateroom! Their mattress was twice as thick as ours & had more storage than you have. I told them "Step around the corner & I'll show you what it's like sharing a room with 72 other guys!"
This video makes me glad that I went into private industry instead. However, I am grateful to you all for protecting our country. Thank you all for your service to those of you that have served.
On a Ticonderoga "O country" is a great shortcut to other parts of the Ship, the trick for enlisted is to walk through with a clipboard and stop at few fire extinguishers and check their safety tags so people think you're there on official business.
I was First LT on a 542 class LST back in 1959-61. My "stateroom" was positively enormous compared to these spaces. I had two bunks, desk, dresser, closet, storage, porthole, and shared with most junior incoming officer from time to time. He always got the upper, which was a lot of fun for a newby during heavy weather. Officer's country has really changed, I guess, with more modern ships.
Green side navy still has surge capacity and berthing spaces around the upper level below the bridge specifically on LSD’S that are extremely spacious, but I don’t know about other classes of ships.
The smaller the ship, the small everything is. And with the education/knowledge gap getting smaller and smaller between enlisted and officers, sometimes I wonder if a JO deserves more comfortable living or a first class or chief who has been in the navy for decades
@@jujuandphil2020 I was an E6 and believe me when I say we appreciate it when we worked with JOs who throw respect back to those who were their subordinates. We would likely bend over backwards to help you guys become outstanding senior officers as you progress in your careers!
on a junior ship such as an LST, we had maybe 4 E6''s and maybe two Chiefs. As 1st LT, I depended heavily(!) on my senior Boatwain's mate and Gunner"s Mate. As an ensign with zero experience when I came aboard my job was to "keep your mouth shut and learn" Then, one day, several months later I had the wheel for the next 18 months--with an XO who didn't care for college kids amongst other cultural traits. My favorite experience was during GQ. My station was the forward 40mm gun tub. Our one HM knew I had a sense of humor. He stood by underneath he gun tub with a surgical dressing for my behind because he know the XO would show up soon and take a hunk. We all used to laugh about it. We kidded about it 40 years later at a ship's reunion. And those guys still called me "Mister". Great shipmates.
I did MESS DUTY in the WARDROOM and had to collect the laundry and garbage in OFFICERS COUNTRY on the USS LUCE DDG 38 back in the late 70s and you guys have got it worse !! There used to be 2 to a room on my Ship . Y It looks like the NAVY took a page out of LOWER DECKS and put Jr. Officers in a BERTHING COMPARTMENT !! And its a SCUTTLEBUTT and DOWN LADDER not sink and down stairs .
Haha yeah. I think the difference between officers and enlisted is getting smaller and smaller. I have enlisted with college degrees. And honestly, a good second class petty officer is so much more valuable than an unqualified junior officer!
@@jujuandphil2020 My Captain called me by First name when I was a 3rd class BMOW on the Bridge when he wanted to talk to me semi officially. It was usually a question about the News or scores or to just point out how beautiful the Sea can be when you know what you're doing.
1980-1984, Ensign to Ltjg, I was an engineering division aboard an old LSD (Dock Landing Ship), amphib hauling Marine and their equipment all over the Pacific Ocean. My state room was huge compared to the DDs, DDG and CGs.
Semper Fi Mate. I enjoyed my times aboard as a LVTP-7 crewman. The navy was very good to us! Good chow, and berthing. Navy are badass! 1979-84! Camp DelMar.
I was a top-racker when I was onboard the USS O'BANNON {DD-987} that is currently and permanently sitting on the bottom of the Atlantic about 400 miles ENE of Myrtle Beach, SC.
Thanks for the tour. I was enlisted in 1964 on the Richmond K Turner DLG-20, 21 people in the compartment, coffin lockers. Not that bad. New construction.
No disrespect meant, but these quarters seem to be just one step above a prison setting. I know it's designed to be totally functional, and this isn't a Las Vegas hotel suite ... but my claustrophobia would be kicking in so hard there, haha. But I am grateful that people receive a calling to join the military life. It's important.
Only ship-berthing I ever experienced was as enlisted on a nasty ol' non-nuc carrier. This was a really cool video! As a side-note: I would bet that the "handy-sink" in officer country also served as a pretty convenient um.... urinal at night time too perhaps? 😁 😂
Comfort is relative I guess 😂. I’m a Navy JO (prior enlisted Air Force who was with Army most my career) . I’ll take a cot & tent in the desert or FOB over a ship any day . But it is what it is . It has been a hard transition getting use to Maritime world
Maybe a little bit too "PC"? He kept saying people and not men. When I was on the boat it was a 4 "man room" 6 "man room" 60 "man berthing" nothing and I repeat nothing was tagged officially or unofficially with "people". Female Officers lived in a 4 "man stateroom" Female Enlisted lived in 30 "man berthing"
Howdy Juju and Phil!! Love y’all’s videos! Could you please do one on what SWO’s do on a deployment? Maybe a day in the life video? Thanks so much! God bless! :)
Wow if that's the officers billets , I don't even want to see how the enlisted guys live . No wonder recruiting numbers are down ; they must have seen this video .i guess it's true : the worst shore duty beats the best sea duty . True patriots to put up with these living conditions . All I can say is God bless the US Air Force . 20 years active duty and Air Guard and I'd recommend it to any young person who asked .
I was in a two-man stateroom in Warrant Officer country while serving on the USS Chicago CG-11 as a new CWO2. The best ship I ever served on. CWO4 USN Ret.
I was enlisted in the Navy. I never went on a ship and the most I ever had in a room was 4. One base I was at there was 2 to a room and a bathroom shared with the room next door. Every room had its own sink. When not deployed I just lived off base.
I was use to 2-3 JO's per stateroom. More Tech must mean less O'Country Space. Dept Heads get two bunks per stateroom with may the senior DH's one per stateroom. When the Helo Flight crew embarks.....Ah Man, maybe the Ensigns sleep on sleeping bags on foam pads on the decks.
My father was a officer and enlisted. I don’t understand why people are upset with the officers. My dad aged so fast when he commissioned. There’s a lot of responsibility involved when you’re an officer.
omg sir, that's three or four times the size of officer staterooms on submarines! 😲 I was enlisted, STS3(SS), [SS = "submarine specialist" aka "Qualified in Submarines"] and on a Trident (Ohio class), which is the bigger type of submarine we have, this was 1999 to 2003 ....but the officer staterooms are about the size of an office cubicle and hold up to three officers, usually two (it depends on how many officers are aboard). There is enough room to for each to stand up, and then there are two fold out desks. Enlisted rooms are also the size of office cubicles, but hold nine enlisted members. Three amidships, three forward, three aft. There is a separate area for E-7 and above, "The Goat Locker", it's about the same as E-7 and below, but fewer people. The Chief of the Boat, which on a surface ship is called "Command Master Chief" has his (or her....there's a female COB on at least one submarine that I know of) own office on a Trident, but his sleeping area is with the other E-7+. 🙂 This is probably true of cruisers as well: the Captain is the only one who gets a stateroom all to himself. 🙂
In 1961 I had a rack and a 24x38 inch locker That was it, Cpo mess was better but a empty rack was the rule. Work was on the deck and get to it. So when the going gets tough I can sleep anytime anyware
I was on a Tico from '87-'91. Funny, how I can tell where you are from the bit of the passageway you show at :23. Starboard side, right? And the door opposite leads down to the main deck. You go forward from there and its where the enlisted mess is.
If our Enlisted berthing ever looked like that, we'd get our asses chewed out big time by our Div Officer and probably have our liberty secured! Nowadays, young officers such as yourself would be old enough to be my kid so these days I would likely call you "Son" rather than "Sir!" 🤣Thank you for your service!
I slept in supply berthing , on the top rack ,onboard the U.S.S. Oliver Hazard Perry (FFG-7) from ‘93-‘96. Thank god for the “ OH SH*T!! “ straps during rough seas.
Good god that stateroom is a shitpit with all the gear adrift!!! It truly is a new Navy from when I served active duty. And or perhaps just shows the differences in standards enlisted are/were held to vs officers for gear adrift?
I left the military after 12 years…could not stomach anymore the class distinction. My Chief Master Sargeant had more brains..more class, more everything…than the people he had to salute! Didnt get it after a while and saw no future as an enlisted man..E6 when I got out with no slots available to advance..I do miss it though..the comradary!!
Nice video LT JG! When I was an IC-2 in the navy sometimes I had to go into officers country to repair a sound powered phone. This was years ago. As far as racks go, I found mine to be very comfortable with an air conditioning vent and a reading light. I wonder if sound powered telephones are still used on navy ships?
In the spaces it’s more of a landline, or a old phone where you spin them to the right number and rinse and repeat, on the weather decks, exterior and bridge to name a few there are still sound powered phones.
I found them to be very reliable and seldom had to service them. A typical repair would be replacing the handset cords. They are very simple in design .@@Faith_Through_Struggle
Yes we absolutely still are! In the nuclear navy and the conventional navy. I was in charge of IC and ET on my previous ship (my title was ICE-T) . Very found if ICman, great hard working people
@@jujuandphil2020That is great. By my experience, the sound powered telephone systems were just about indestructible. I loved being an IC man. I was petty officer second class. I worked with the EM's and the ET's. I had heard that the IC rating was no more. I have never heard of ICE-T rating. It must be something new. I regret that when my commitment was up and was ready to be discharged, I should have "Reupped" and stayed in the navy.
If you think this is cramped for six, you would not believe the berthing for Marines embarked for deployment. Bunks 4 or 5 high and gear on the bunks during the day, on the deck at night.
The 'nooks and crannies' are probably better for privacy so you're not all six of you in each other's hair, but otherwise it is a visually difficult environment and my guess is, full of afterthoughts and designed by committee. Feel like an officer should have no more than one roommate.
I will tell you this, and I think many will agree with me- Those grey, wool blankets? The one current active duty sailors HATE? There will come a day when you will MISS those damn things... (at least I do)
Downstairs? You mean below? What stairs? They’re called ladders. What do they teach you boots at the Academy? I spent 3 1/2 as an E5 on the last all-gun cruiser. You probably wouldn’t understand the lingo. I guess that’s progress 🤷
Golfer5824, oh MAN! Those absolutely BEAUTIFUL All-Gun HEAVY CRUISERS! Never served on one, but they were awesome warships! I think our Navy made a huge mistake in taking the All-Guns out of the fleet, just like they screwed up when they eliminated "Lighter-Than-Air" squadrons (ZP) in the very early 60s.
Yah I was on a Nimitz class carrier. You know there are about 30 staterooms that are for "dignitaries" or visitors, and are almost always empty on a day to day basis. I KNEW that they are not serviced or checked up on. They had keycard locks on the doors, but that wont stop an electronics specialist (hhehe it's not gonna stop an AT). I used those rooms about a hundred times over the years to bang girls, as it was one of the few places on the boat where I could get privacy. I mean nobody ever found out, it was great. And just think, all the "elites" on that boat, all the chiefs, the officers, and even the captain were all INCELS while I was getting LAID left and right. It was quite a thrill to get away with than and an awesome privilege that I carved out for myself.
