Officers REFUSED To Investigate This Crime 

This is like a cross over episode I’ve been waiting on! I hope that doesn’t sound weird lol

Without captions, it was useless to me.

Great further education! Thank you for all the work and effort you put in, this was excellent!

I always appreciate your analysis even if I don't always agree.

I really enjoy your channel, but I think I have to call you out on this one for two points: Mr. Bays outright hostile tone in the initial interaction with the police (which forcefully escalates the situation considering they are there because they think he may be tampering with police vehicles.) He immediately attempts to flee when confronted, ignores lawful commands, and refuses to let the police explain the situation until they finally have to cuff him. You ignore it in the beginning, but you yourself even call this out during grading. I believe that should bring his score down to a B- or even a straight B. The second point is when you bring up that the PD doesn't have to "verbally Identify." You say that it's true they don't have to, but spend 2 and a half minutes going into why they should (especially the section on entering homes? that isn't even relevant for this video!) If you are going to be "auditing", then you can't punish the PD for not doing something they legally don't have to. I don't know if it would raise the score personally, but as much as you criticized the PD for distorting facts I could say you were doing the same this time.

I love this comparison

That is a fantastic analogy, and we'll stated!!! I will use that in the future! That is called, a reduction to the ridiculous!

@@danielmorgan6779 that is a direct quote from Edward Snowden

@@CareyHolzman I like it! Snowden is really strange as far as his personal life, but he's a Patriot to let we the people know that the government was screwing over, the citizens!

Much more, it supports *the detention was extended out of retaliation because he was invoking his constitutional rights.* Officer actions that are otherwise legal can become illegal if done for retaliation, harassment, and intimidation.

This is the very specific reason I watch ATA. I do miss the other guy, sometimes, however. They are still great, however. Lackluster gives the same thing but with personal opinion, which is why I prefer ATA.

Agreed. These guys are very thorough and well researched in the law. If only the Police were made to watch this channel.

It's all useless babbling. He is not a lawer. Everything he says is wrong.

@@claytonbigsby9128 Obvious troll is obvious

@@claytonbigsby9128 why are you lying so blatantly? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Agree. This seems to be a problem with humanity and id imagine (hope) officers are trained to be suspicious of the call as well as the situation they walk into. Seems stressful for all involved. Thank you for sharing your experience.

True.

I work dispatch as well. We can’t report fact only. We can only report what someone says. That may be fact but it may also be opinion or lies. It’s up to the officers in the field to make those determinations.

You are so right, CJ. It's a common problem seen on practically every auditors channels, where the caller gets God's honest truth credibility, even if the auditor is cooperative and tells the officer exactly what was going on. Example,in a recent video I watched, that took place at a post office, the guy went outside to wait for police, when the officer arrived, the auditor explained in detail poster 7 rules of conduct on postal property, and the postal employees camera phobia, being the only reason for demanding he leave, and be trespassed. The officer never even attempted to go inside, and read poster 7, and took the postal employees word, even after verbally stating he was unsure of his jurisdictional authority, and he didn't have jurisdiction, since postal property is federal, and postal inspector jurisdiction. I was shocked by his behavior,as well as that of his backup, and supervisors ignorance, and their failures to just go inside and read poster 7. As a retired postal carrier, I'm amazed at how many postal employees are totally ignorant about poster 7, it's been the policy for decades virtually unchanged, although periodically updated. Which highlights the lack of personal professionalism to be the best you can be at what you do. that's obviously missing these days, and it spans across the entire public service employee's spectrum. Your statement here, shows me, you had proper upbringing, that instilled being the best you can be, at what you do. And I thank you for that ,and your service to the public.

@@timw7483 are you required to record all calls so if police lie and say the call said something else, that the original call can be cited as a reference?

I think in the disability act, officers have to verbalize because some people are hard of hearing, blind etc.

@@tracyeaves4847but how would they know? They just need to verbally identify with every encounter. Seems like common sense and could avoid many potential legal issues.

I’m severely nearsighted and I would never be able to see a name on a cop’s name tag.

Asking a cop a simple question as what's your name and badge number, helps to determine if the cop is a POS or not

​@@Maki-00 but you'd be able to recognize the uniform. They wear unis for a reason.

Police claim any and every area is a high crime area of it suits them. Just like the alleged car break ins, they'll never provide evidence of such unless a judge forces them to... And few judges would

I love when they say they've had cars broken into on their own parking lot. Im like "you freely admitted how incompetent you are that you can't even protect the parking lot you keep our vehicles."

@@juandoe2994 Is that BAT's goal? To get them to put up security gates and fences around their lots costing the taxpayer more money?

@@cooloutac a simple sign works just fine. My local pd has it on their personnel parking lot and it's 100% legit. So they have 3 parking lots. 1. For police vehicles (gated) 2. Personnel parking (posted no trespass sign) 3. Publicly accessible parking (no signs or restrictions)

@@juandoe2994 True, but alot of these auditors will then say they didn't see it. They have to put it in a better place. Or in the case of your signs, none of them state pedestrian. Does the no trespassing sign literally say that? Or does it say Personnel parking which is what they say at most precincts which is not good enough. They will then say well I don't have a car it doesn't apply to me, I'm not parking. They need your 1st example. gated. I'm from NYC, I don't know of any precincts that have a non gated parking lot for any cars at all. You have to literally park on the street. And thats all BAT is accomplishing costing taxpayers money.

Agreed

Why would a school car park be a place to store unused vehicles anyway? that is really weird.

I actually think it should be illegal to have a car that isn’t driven at least once a week and you should have to sell it. Rather it’s regular people or the government lmao it irritates me

@@ESPLTD322 okay that’s just bull, if the cars on private property it’s no one’s business how often it’s driven. that statement is way too broad. i too hate people leaving cars on the side of the street or in public parking lots but you didn’t even specify. so my question to you is did you just not bother to be specific in your comment or do you truly think people should have to sell their vehicles if they’re not driven once a week, regardless of where the vehicle is stored?

@@everyhandletaken It wasn't the school parking lot, it was a parking lot behind a gov't building. The school was BEHIND that parking lot. Not associated with it.

I was thinking the same thing, I was expecting to see sad kids and puppies in a black and white filter edited between every police miss conduct

Yeah, matches the impression of a propaganda video that was already exhibited by the several ridiculous claims made.

They as a national organization proliferate their most prominent skill, which is masterful manipulation of mankind, so this tactic should come as no surprise.

blatant attempt to steer their narrative with the ominous sounds . It doesn't matter who is passing out the video or what video - when someone puts in the background music they have an agenda that is not open minded presentation of the video and issue. Amazing though how many people let that color their perspectives.

you have to be below 80 iq to fall for that trick

It's not really hearsay outside of court, but I know what you mean, based on a 3rd party. And The 911 operator should have asked the person if they actually WITNESSED him touching the car, or if that was an assumption. ESPECIALLY if you're going to arrest somebody based on it. Because people say there are assumptions when speaking to police all the time.

They make Demoncraps proud.

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Yeah, the video they made is far more concerning than the interaction itself.

most cops lie like breathing

@@jordancapps9521 exactly

Most people feel the need to explain themselves when they are in the wrong, and distort facts to protect themselves. The police department did just that here.

I was less concerned with the video, it was almost entirely factual, right up to the point about the complaint form interaction. This seems to be a recurring issue with police departments intimidating citizens who want to file a complaint. We shouldn’t even have to ask for it, it should be a pdf available online and copies in a folder in the entrance to the police station.

Prostitute: "I'll do anything you want!" Me: "How much to paint my house?"

True

That is one law that I would support. It should be illegal for police and LEOs to create stings and bait cars and all that. There is plenty of crime that goes unsolved, but police are creating more possibilities for crimes instead of investigating the unsolved ones.

I would say, "Sure. I need a babysitter for my son. I actually have plans to go to the concert in town. Its a date, I can't mess this up."

@@karozans You know that is a way to prevent more crimes right? People commit the crimes and mos times don't get caught so they bait these idiots and catch them. Or would you rather someone steal your car instead of a bait car? Not only that but they use those situations to learn more about how the crimes are being committed and the techniques/tools they should look out for

It's not policing, it's terrorism

it has to lead to far more than a brief detainment for charges of false report to occur. The thing about police work is public perception is huge, and if police started arresting most of the people that call.... people will learn to just not call when they see stuff they legitimately think is suspicious. So the dumb people that report obviously not suspicious activity would cause the people seeing actual suspicious activity to decide not to call.

shit take

@@joedirt8351well that’s too bad bc cops violate rights all the time based on false calls so…. Bad apple ruins the bunch.

@@darkhumorfunnyasf4936When your house is being robbed, your neighbor will not be inclined to call the police because he COULD be arrested. Can that be spelled out spelled out any more clear?

@@BruTheThreatno use in trying to argue with purely ignorant people.

Yeah...intentionally provoking police with intentionally acting suspicious and getting vulgar/emotional...it feels like it defeats more than half the purpose of holding police accountable.

Me too, honestly.

the auditor was being unreasonably hostile and anyone can see he was baiting them.

Same, dude acts like an ass

Yeah the situation is different when you do things to intentionally get the police’s attention.

Accurate.

They are there to serve and protect, the state. Not the citizenship.

Most law enforcement*

serve and protect their own interests, maybe

Harass and collect

I guess you've never read "the boy who cried wolf"

Maybe he wants to, but there are no updates cause nothing ever done… 😂

Nothing is ever done in the judicial system especially that quick

@@scottiegang2236 At 15:42 ATA goes off the deep end citing knock and announce and using that case to bootstrap officers must give name and badge # verbally. Are you kidding me?? The announce requirement is to say "Police" before entering, not to knock and say it's Officer Joe Friendly Badge # 007 please open the door." ATA is getting wacked. This suspect can literally see they're the Police. Identified. Duhhhh.

I sincerely hope that if a concerned citizen calls police because a suspicious character seems to be messing with the cars of the haters on here the cops just blow it off and let the guy walk away (with your car stereo under his jacket). Wouldn't want to violate his rights by asking what he was doing after a 911 caller implicated him.

PLEAAASSEEEEE

Agreed. I hate the videos that end with no follow-on information.

The problem is many of these cases take years to litigate in courts. So it’s not always that there even is anything to report for several years

this should have been xmas specials he could have made in advace and take a few days off during the holidays. great idea Adam

Probably because the RU-vid videos did not publish the entire amount of evidence.

Audit the Audit analyzes incidents that are uploaded to youtube, and he provides the legal ground in a sound and responsible manner, which I'm sure is a lot of work. To now research the outcome of these cases would be a whole different endeavor, and I don't think we can expect such an endeavor to even be actionable or realizable.

BAT does quite a few audits. And he does push the limits of what an acceptable audit should look like. But, importantly, he limits his emotional outbursts to words. Calling cops 'trash' and berating them for being dumb cops is still protected speech. A cop's ability to put his ego in check and let a citizen vent at them without repercussion is an important element of their job, and auditing police for their reaction to protected speech, I'd argue, is a chaotic good.

I’d argue it makes him look like a attention seeking troll.

Is being an "Auditor" even a real career/job/occupation? Genuine question. But honestly all I see is a dipshit RU-vidr fishing for views and wasting the officers time.

@@jonblaze32 but separating a bait and singling out issues for each audit is important to clarifying his intentions. Free speech is important. Harassment is another, but his choice in escalation blurs the line and makes the audit less effective at best and ineffective at worst.

You all missed the point period of this audit. Does looking like a homeless draw a different treatment from the police than looking like a working person. But because the auditor is crass and brash with the officers his audit suddenly is the jerk. This society today is way too sensitive. Everything he said was protected, just because it hurts the feelings of the officers or other people doesn’t make it a crime. He was showing that their response to emotion being displayed is not proportionate to the displayed emotion(s).

Yes but they are still police cars, and may still be used if a situation requires them to be. The police also forgot to mention that the whether in New York is snowy.

@@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 In addition they’re still public property, and alongside civilian vehicles. If this was a crime, like arson let’s say, other people’s property would be at risk; as well, the range from the school would risk them as well.

@@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 shush

I wonder if they're on non-op

Yes but they may be driven away at some point by somebody to be de-commisioned and sold or auctioned to members of the public.

well yeah, the civilians actions are so chilling it demanded it.

@@pellabologna 😂

He identified, his name was officer Righthere

“I know that I alone am responsible for my own standard of professional performance...” - LAW ENFORCEMENT CODE OF ETHICS, Pinole Police Department Really? I'll take that affirmation seriously if, and only if, I see that you forgo qualified immunity in any civil or criminal proceedings that result in the proven violation of individual rights. Otherwise, forgive me if the quote above is considered as nothing more than a trite platitude. SINE QUA NON Liberty, Truth, Reason

@@libertarious ugh why you have to add q anon shit? The rest of your cult loves cops blindly, ya know?

Absolutely. Handcuffs should be considered an extreme rights violation to be used in only extreme scenarios where there is RAS to detain someone.

good idea

I like this idea too

For most Departments, handcuffs fall under the use of force policy. A lot of Departments can detain you using handcuffs for "officer safety". That's the only reason they need unfortunately. For example: You can literally walk up to someone and detain them using handcuffs to question them. That's really all there is to it and that's a damn shame.

@@Sadows12 yep. And so we need more clarification from the courts as to when "officer safety" can be used to put someone in handcuffs. It is being abused by police as an intimidation tactic which should be considered a civil rights violation.

Go to a criminal attorney

The ACLU has resources for people with cases that local attorneys don't want to file. But, if you can't find an attorney to file a case, then it's possible there's no case to file. Not every violation of your rights leads to a civil trial, it generally has to be egregious. If, for instance, the police prolonged your detainment to wait for a drug dog, that would be a violation of your 4th amendment rights that can lead to dismissal of charges but doesn't rise to the level of what you need for a civil trial. I mean, it's America so you can sue for whatever you want, but lawyers don't like to file suit against the government when they know it's a losing case.

That’s the point. The seemingly fuzzy areas are where principles are truly tested.

Exactly ! After watching multiple vidios its clear most of these auditor's purposesly taunt the police it seems just to argue their rights or collect money by provoking the police into violating their rights ..im all about the constitution but totally against purposely provoking or taunting the police to prove a point or in most cases an opinion of rights often with limited knowledge of the law to begin with.

Yeah I agree. I know they do it on purpose to test cops but sometimes it can get out of hand

@@wilclif lol, arguing fuzzy areas with people that often have a superiority (like god) complex and gun is foolish ..from watching these vidios it seems most of these auditor's are lacking knowledge of the law and . Using time and resources to prove ,in most cases an opinion. Tuanting the police or testing them is no different than making a false 911 call and if these auditor's continue pressing the issue the courts will find away to minimize more of our rights ..this is just a common sense opinion of course but im sure my opinion will soon become a fact if this kind of thing continues..

@@mikewasko4964 Old joke: Whats the difference between a cop and God? . . .God knows he’s not a cop.

Mr. Bae

Do you know how acronyms work? B.A.T. = Yes "Bae" = No Where the hell are you getting the "E" from.

@@jackspratt7264 silent 't' fam. You ain't heard of Shang *T*sung? 🤣

@@jackspratt7264 from watching his channel. one of BAT's things is to talk down to officers by calling them "Bae" after a certain point of most of his audits

@@jackspratt7264 .... "Bae" is a slang word which means "before all else" (it is an acronym, wow!) and is used to refer to someone like a spouse or significant other who you put "before all else". It's supposed to be cute, and you're being needlessly pedantic, which is extra funny in this case since you didn't even get their joke.

Why investigate? It's called qualified immunity. Just harass and collect. Legality is a non-factor.

This where i feel audit the audit drops the ball. If going to offer FULLY unbiased review of situations, then need to point out where the cops alleged reasoning for detention at least APPEARS to be a lie, and , therefore, it APPEARS that they are even more in the wrong. In a number of cases there is ample evidence to back up that assertion (one being here as they never checked said brake lines, and many others where they claim break ins at the police departments yet never offer a report number to verify that when asked/requested), and said assertion gives a much much clearer picture to issue a final grade of. They can lie to citizens but they cannot lie on reports or to the court, so the basis of their reasonable suspicion that they claim cannot be a lie.

I agree that they lie but to be fair, they aren't mechanics haha. They probably don't know how to check the brakes, and that's fair. They aren't mechanics

@@Ivang017 fair point. So secure they wont be called out that they didnt even fake it though. Thats pretty sad. Couldve at least given the proverbial hood raised and hands on hips (or one on hip and other rubbing chin) that im so fond of seeing the non car guys do for literally every situation. Lol

@@Ivang017 On top of that, a cursory inspection of the area would reveal no tools, no weapons in the immediate area, nothing with which he could have used to sabotage a vehicle. Unless we're assuming he's got REALLY sharp nails...there's no reason for them to suspect he's been tampering with the cars.

Exactly. An automatic F.

They're not officers, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo

Exactly

That moment? Had to work hard to force that meme in there eh lol.

have you ever looked underneath a car? where the brake lines are?

@@cheekymonkey666 have YOU???

@@cheekymonkey666 I have... they didn't... This is a big man... he would have touched the car getting back up... simple as that.

@@TheCorezero00 lol

@@TheCorezero00 yes many times when im servicing my vehicles its what a vehicle owner should do on a regular basis, any experienced driver would know that...

@R Hamlet well that’s offensively rude and completely subjective what ain’t rude or subjective is Scalia and thomases support if police compared to other members they’ve served with which highlights how bad these cops are

What’s wrong is equating homosexuality with murder….the others are also abhorrent quotes

​@@balmorrablue3130Clarence Thomas is more corrupt than any cop. Cry about it nerd

​@rhamlet5290 they are awesome compared to a couple others !

My fav is when they say it'll be on the arrest affidavit :D

Ask them to identify right away. If they try the "right here" then tell them they are a random nobody that youre not engaging until they ID. If they say anything other than their name, respond with, "Who are you?". If they ask you for ID still, them them, "Its right there" and point to your pocket.🤐

That's because most cops are COWARDS

It's even more ridiculous when an entitled, rude citizen refuses to identify themselves to police or answer any questions but proceed in a very condescending manner to request the sane of police officers. No. I am not a cop. Just someone who was taught manners, respect, and common sense. Bottom line, respect is earned. You should NOT expect the same respect that you are refusing to give anyone else. Period.

@@SG-MT True, there's ridiculousness on both sides at times. I understand utilizing your rights in the presence of a cop, but it can be done without being over the the top rude.

I want to second that compliment. I think this video is important because it shows the three parts of many police/suspect encounters that in many cases that end in tragedy. Since this case did not end badly, there are no strong emotions that might make people immediately take sides before a rational evaluation. First, the 911 caller speculated that the guy was tampering with the cars. In this case, the speculation was minor. I have heard people make such amazing jumps in fact that the officers tend to be on very high alert. Second, the police officer enters the scene a little confrontational. However, it could have been much worse. Third, the auditor appears to be unreasonable. Although his actions may have been within his rights, given where he was found, he should have at least have stopped. This video shows how bad the relationship between all parties that frequently contribute to tragedy. As in this case, all three parties acted reasonably well if you only look at one point of view. But taken on the whole, they all need to think about what they are doing. And, learn to treat each other with a little more compassion.

@@mervyngreene6687 This is why my personal policy is to never call the police and invite them into a situation no matter the circumstance. By never, I mean that I can’t think of a situation in which I think the overall outcome would be better for having police involved. At best it’s a waste of time and in most situations having the cops involved will just lead to more problems for you.

@@trippmoore I really wish that I could disagree with your comment. But, in most cases it just isn't worth the risk. A few months ago I called 911, that was probably the last time I will. There was a guy who looked passed out or unconscious. I called to report a car break in. When the police came, they started questioning me like I was a suspect. I repeatedly told them that I was the one who called. They tried to tell me that they were just following procedure. When I challenged that, they pulled the old "you match the description of" garbage. By this time a supervisor showed up who knew me. When he saw me, he motioned the cops away. They had a quick chat and the original cops left. The officer I knew did that apology non apology thing. He said that they had got a call that a black guy was breaking into cars. I told that was not true. He hemmed and hawed for a while. I just looked at him and said "okay, I'm done."

Don't forget the "this day in age" argument.

I grade the cops a F. They used crime that occurred and the school all as factors to make themselves look good. The cops failed to investigate. They uses the clothes he was wearing and judged him on his clothes. What would the outcome be if he was dressed normal?

@@kurtwetzel154 no different. watch some of his videos.

the cop was right that was a high crime area avery police department is a high crime area there all full of law breakers.

As per quoted "mere presence within an area to be determined such is not probable cause in and of itself" If this were the case it would completely undermine the whole point behind reasonable articulatible suspicion. Quite often an officers idea of RAS will drastically differ, especially compared to that of the suspect. It's not exactly BS, it is however often a reach in determining wrong doing. The real BS is their entire reason for the investigating appeared to drop by the wayside once they determined themselves having enough for a detainment.

Not Hint but fact

They’re sadistic, evil, impulsive, abusive and dangerous. Which, ironically, is exactly why they’re hired.

Happens every day. I wonder how many other "I can't breathe" survivors are out there all the time 🤔

Oh, I don't know, when was it the duty of citizens to defy a lawful order, or violently resist a lawful order, or arrest? Hint......never. Works both ways sport, probably need to think a little about that. Don't like the laws, there are legal ways to change those. Trying to change them on the street through stupid behavior, yeah, thats never going to end well.

@@allemander Yeah, when I was working, that's pretty much what we said about citizens. Because yeah, those "citizens" in Kenosha, Portland, and Seattle were so controlled, polite, and non-violent. Go work as cop if you think you can do better, they're hiring. See what you think after a year on the job sport.

150% RITE.!!

If you get a camera in one of those meetings I'd be surprised

This PD needs 24/7 mass audits.

I agree I watch a lot of these guys he’s solid af! He get them to repeat the wrong answer then he attacks in a way they control get what you bring!!!

You can say "acab" or call them "stupid pigs" or whatever you want. They cannot legally retaliate.

@@twentyfourtythree1190 Yet retaliate they will, so while it's smart to know that you can, it's wise to know that you shouldn't.

@@Kibaoftheleaves at least get their retaliation on video so they can then explain to the judge exactly why they did what they did!!!!

In Germany you could be fined (maybe even sued) for insulting a public servant. (On the other hand, no bodycams AFAIK, but two cops saying the same thing would likely be considered credible because they are so 'respectable'.)

@@Dowlphin At least German cops aren't gunning down people.

It's called freedom of speech my dear.

Yeah he is good. He would be a kick ass auditor

The fact that they are not just demonstrates what propaganda BS the police training actually is.

Laws are written by attorneys, mostly, and ruled on by attorneys as judges. Convoluted laws are just good ol' job security.

@Seano Mac I totally agree, one of their main jobs is DEescalation and many don’t seem to do it well. But they are human too and if the person, especially an auditor is rude and belligerent just to CAUSE a reaction, it’s not the best way, IMO to deal with them. I am all for the huge ego’s to go, but you can still treat them as a human being and they obviously need to do the same.. I have seen some really good cops totally de-escalate a bad situation. I do agree with you.

It's like having a bully pushing your limits while being "free of consiquence" Be it civilian, worker, cop, politician. Just cause you have the right to do it.. doesn't mean you should. If people like this guy is constantly being rude and testing the police's patience.. someone is gonna snap and that's human. If the auditor is a jerk ment to do this on purpose... you lose me thinking you are a just cause. Because you might be testing good people constantly... taking away people that might be needed at an emergency or actual crime just to test them and wasting time. Wich is infact a crime to do.. but.. these people walk the thin line of remaining in their rights on purpose all the time.

@@boxerspause even though is not normally equal, in this instance I would bring up the parallel to any service worker. Cashier, gas, or waiter if someone came in with the exclusive intent to harass. A point for the audit is the subject of burden to investigate first for the police beyond a private business, but the empathy is more understood by bringing up a type of job a majority of the population has engaged in. AtA brings that up, but I would have given him a C+ at most for this individual interaction because he escalated it in a way that was counter productive to the cause. 👍

Wtf being rude ain't shit compared to tyranny attitude that, you gotta bark back that's the only way to get the message into this hard headed ass fucked up government

Being a bit of a jerk should be no problem at all, so long as the auditor follows all lawful commands. This tests the officer's professionalism in such situations. If an officer will only remain within their lawful authority if people treat them politely, then the officer is incompetent and unfit for the job, and potentially dangerous. When I waited tables years ago, the employer would occasionally send in secret diners to test servers. The secret diners would be difficult customers on purpose in order to test our patience, because if you can't handle a difficult customer then you can't handle the job- period

I totally agree, forget department policy, how about stating your name and badge number when asked because you are a mature adult as well a member of law enforcement?

In thease situations Officers often say "right here" and point to their name tags in an attempt to get an aggravated person to approach them so they can respond to being approached by a subject by escalating the situation and going hands on arguing that they were "being approached by an angry subject" just another underhanded dirty tactic employed by power hungry tyrants who are high on their own egos and their presumed authority

100%

ya apparently im not allowed to know the cop or his badge number if hes talking to me Lol, i'm basically blind i can't read those stupid name tags Lol glad to know the USA federally allows only people with 20/20 vision the right to know the offices name/badge number /s

If he was lawful then they had no reason to approach him in the first place. Even the caller could not articulate a crime.

Its simple. When people act lawfully cops should not treat them as criminals. My biggest issue is cops detained him for supposed car vandalism and never even bothered to look at the cars during the whole 20 minute encounter.

@@valentinius62 They had RAS. and the caller literally said he was doing something to the cars.

@@cooloutac No, it's the same old "we got a call" BS. Why don't I call the police on you, say you're doing something and you can enjoy their RAS while you're standing there in handcuffs. I'll be sure to tell them you're "messing with" property and "doing something." Not sure what statutes make "messing with" and "doing something" illegal, but that would be something your lawyer could sort out for you.

@@valentinius62 I agree the cops always use that excuse, but this time someone actually did call. So not really the same old same old. if that was me I never would have been in handcuffs cuz I would have deescalated that real quick. The difference is bat is trying to do the opposite.

That's what an audit is.

@@ryanestes42 Or in this case a witch hunt! The police officers did nothing illegal.

Lol, they are cops who can't even tell the truth in their explication videos. They are more likely to bring in Dave Grossman than AtA.

🎯

And yet, it was a guy that called it.

I mean how you look does play an important role into, well everything If you look like a homeless bum tampering with cars, then people will presume you are a homeless bum tampering with cars

@@dinoblacklane1640 Yeah, I dont disagree with that :D I just meant to say that he accused someone of calling the police and then we can hear that it was in fact not her that did :)

@@dinoblacklane1640 A homeless bum covering his face

@@purebloodedgriffin with a pandemic

I, too, love these videos. I just wish that they would educate our law enforcement.

@@todddoetken2594 it's not so much that law enforcement isn't educated... it's that they forget all they've learned, grow an ego, and take advantage!

@@boozefueledreviews6928 - Bingo.

I love it! I'll join ya!

I've got an artic winter storm, 6 inches of snow and no power down here in Texas🔥🔥

@@ninolatimer1863 Stay warm manito!!

@@ninolatimer1863 Sorry to hear that! stay warm. Saturday will be around 60 degrees.

the cars are retired but still functioning since they're in a parking lot and not in a dump yard

Yeah. You've got a point

Yeah, this is what makes me suspicious. If they had just said initially that BAT was detained for 15 min and he was spotted 'around' cars it would have been normal. The fact they are lying about the facts mean they know something was wrong and are covering it up. Then saying he purposefully didn't give him the complaint form? But it was for some noble reason? Please... And finally refusing to give out the body cams, but releasing an edited media piece? How do those two possibly line up?

@@bigrdmp I don't think he does. He had no tools on him, right? What did he do, chew through the brake lines with his teeth? I don't think so, and the police should have used a little common sense. All the police had to do was to inspect the cars to find that they were not tampered with.

@@ronaldnielson8591 their not mechanics. Whose to say they don't have someone inspect them later on? I can understand why they would want his name to question him further if they do find something. But then you would just say they didn't see him do it and have no proof it was him, so why bother? They have to question his intentions still.

EXACTLY!!!

Open your ears. The auditor was a total ass the way he talked to the cops. And he fully admitted that he lost his cool and professionalism to ATA, as said near the end of this (during the grading part), solely because he was cuffed.

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 yep your completely right, I saw blatant hostility at the end....my point since your oblivious is the cops said he was hostile from the beginning. What you and people like you need to realize is, it's not our duty to give police any assistance, speak to, help, volunteer information etc. Police should get called out for abusing their power, violating rights and in the worst situations, killing civilians. It is auditors like B.A.T. that go about in a way that allows the police to trip themselves up unlock other auditors that are provoking from the beginning or antagonistic from the initial contacts. He did nothing wrong and just because 1 citizen called and in and said he looked like he was doing something does not give police the right to show up demand he answer questions and provide his ID. They should show up and investigate yes but investigation doesn't rely on handcuffing someone for no crime. We are not animals until proven innocent, no one has the right to "chain" someone who hasn't committed a crime period.

Yeah, if it is true that he only got angry for being handcuffed, then there was no insult. I was surprised AtA didn't comment on that point. Not answering questions is not "continued hostile behavior". ... Well, OK, maybe his refusal to stop, if we consider the detainment legitimate.

@@Dowlphin If there was no actual phone call. and they couldn't corroborate it then i would consider it an illegal detainment. Cops use the "someone called" alot and its a lie. in this case it was not since we heard the phone call and BAT didn't present any facts to dispel their suspicion. And they didn't detain him longer then 45 mins.

Gets embarrassed*

Copyright laws would prevent that lol

This dude (batman) does it for the money. Trying to provoke civil lawsuits.

That was my favorite part as well. As of now, the more I watch these so-called and self-appointed "Auditors", the worse my impression of them gets. At best too much time on their hands trying to act important. At worse, ignorant, entitled, disrespectful 🤡 s. Makes average citizens look like suspicious bums, ungrateful that we have people who put their lives on the line regularly to prevent crime, uphold the laws, and protect those who cannot protect themselves. The more comments I read backing that clown, the more ashamed I feel and worst my impression of those instigators is. 😒

@@SG-MTI understand your point as I agree a lot of auditors are just obnoxious. But, an audit, or test, shouldn’t be easy. It should be difficult for those who have the most power in our society. Our rights must be protected. Every interaction with the public that cops have must be seen through the lens of Constitutional rights. That is after all, their #1 job. To protect and defend our Constitutional rights.

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Respect and appreciate Bay Area Transparency

I have to say it a lot, and cops aren't hearing it often enough: *interrogation ≠ investigation*

As much as a refusal to investigate is never a good thing, you have to remember that this channel only ever makes videos about interactions where the police generally don't do a good job. There are a heap of situations where loony and delusional people try to get investigations done. There are a lot of schizophrenic people that hold up police lines and waist their time, it can be hard for them to determine what is a legitimate claim. Sometimes it isn't always corruption.

Yeah, started out ok, but as Mr. Bay got belligerent the cops returned in kind, and we did not get to see all of it to make a full understanding.

Yeah gotta access the situation and figure it out before going up to the person

He looked suspicious on purpose, that was part of the audit. Like you said, you have to treat it like you would anyone else and just be reasonable and ask what they're doing.

Exactly, but the problem is this guy opens his mouth, plays games and wants to make it even more suspicious for youtube views.

@@cooloutac I agree. I’m not a defund the police guy or ultra conservative. But he is making a scene of the audit. My favorite audit on this channel is when the guy is just videoing the precinct in silence and the guy gets illegally detained. He ended up getting a fat check. Just shut the fuck up sometimes and let the pigs hog tie themselves.

Especially because he was filming near a school while he was doing this, it does look hella suspicious. But like, dude came in with the most "I am a cop and I have the power" voice he could come up with, and did a real shitty job.

Alone the added music... lol

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Gta

taking stuff out of a car is a burglary

What wasn't transparent? You didn't include a single specific...

Being transparent means making your motivations known. Everything in the department video makes their motivations obvious. Yes it may be biased, but the fact that you can easily tell that it was biased means that it's definitely transparent.

@@DrummerJacob Lying about the time of detention seemed a bit sketch to me. Other than that, their response to the whole ordeal seems good. Let's hope it's not just a PR stunt.

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Exactly! To me this is grounds for 42 usc 1983 lawsuit. Handcuffs are excessive use of force given the circumstances and should be considered a de facto arrest.

They had reason to think he had a knife or other weapon for tampering with the vehicles.

@@theespatier4456 investigate = tyrant, should be investigate = get all the facts.

@@theespatier4456 Plus he first started walking away from them, so he might of tried to run.

You are right. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. And just because the cops could make a propaganda video and mislead the viewers doesn't mean they should. But they did. And failed miserably. Also if a cop wants to accuse someone of tampering with a vehicle, he HAS to have evidence that a vehicle was tampered with. You cannot accuse a person of a crime just because you think a crime might have been committed. So no. Cops don't have to be lawyers. But they need to know the laws they want to enforce. And they don't need to be mechanics. So if they don't know if there was tampering, they can't accuse you of tampering either. A cop might never have stabbed someone but I'm sure he will start another person if they stab someone else. They don't have to be a stabber or a doctor to know if a stabbing occurred. You should hold cops to a much higher standard if you are going to blindly give them the power to trample in other folks rights.

@@babayega_ "You are right. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. And just because the cops could make a propaganda video and mislead the viewers doesn't mean they should. But they did. And failed miserably." Do you know what propaganda means? If you think this is a propaganda video, I agree. It must be the absolute worst, without question, propaganda video I've ever seen. But this isn't propaganda, and you know this, I hope. "Also if a cop wants to accuse someone of tampering with a vehicle," Do you understand the separation of powers? Police officers are expected to take note of the facts, and take necessary actions, to the best of their *abilities*, how the situation presents itself. All of this law jargon is great and fun, but police officers aren't expected to know every single detail of the law. Otherwise they'd be making a living as lawyers or judges. "he HAS to have evidence that a vehicle was tampered with." No, he absolutely does not. Executive powers are supposed to be both pro-active and reactive to prevent bad outcomes. The other powers are the judicial power that determines if the police was right and the law making power who will correct the law depending on real life situations. It is pretty much a system with a feedback loop which is why it works. "You cannot accuse a person of a crime just because you think a crime might have been committed." Are you insane? You absolutely can. Tf is wrong with you? I'm flabbergasted by the idea of how you thought this couldn't be done. Just stop. I mean. Just... stop posting this kind of idiocy. "So no. Cops don't have to be lawyers." Yes. "But they need to know the laws they want to enforce." Which they do. "And they don't need to be mechanics." As I said. "So if they don't know if there was tampering, they can't accuse you of tampering either." Are you an idiot? I mean seriously, are you an idiot? I don't think most police officers are experts on how to create drugs. I'm pretty sure people would like them to arrest people who make drugs. I'm pretty sure police officers aren't experts on a lot of things but we do expect them to arrest or detain people who might be guilty to crimes. "A cop might never have stabbed someone but I'm sure he will start another person if they stab someone else. They don't have to be a stabber or a doctor to know if a stabbing occurred." Cops detain people if they see blood. People can be released whenever and most people don't give a fuck if they have been detained for a short time. Cops detain and call backup and specialists. People who appear in audit videos are always begging to be arrested. In the civilized world, far far outside of the US, this guy would've been checked and removed in an instant and nobody would care. I don't care. He's acting stupid. He's doubling-down on rights that are almost never infringed upon in the real world. These 'auditors' are nothing but a nuisance to society. Don't get me wrong. There are some that do good work. Most don't though. Audit the Audit has his ups and downs. There is a reason why I watch his videos though. "You should hold cops to a much higher standard if you are going to blindly give them the power to trample in other folks rights." The right to check out a few Ford Mondeos bought by the cops? The right to hide in the bushes? The right to annoy people? Go to a Ford dealership and you'll probably get a free test-ride. Talk to the cops and they'll probably be glad to have a civil conversation with you. This isn't about rights. This is being an asshole and trying to get youtube income by being an asshole.

Exactly.

Most of these so called auditors are little more than punks out looking for trouble. Police absolutely need to be held accountable when they are in the wrong but in the majority of these so called audits someone goes looking for trouble, finds it, then overblows some minor issue into some grand show for views on RU-vid. The whole fake auditor community should be ashamed of themselves and I am surprised at the sheer amount of videos out there where people provoke the police then are applauded for it like they are some sort of hero. You aren't heroes, you're nuisances wasting police time and resources.

You have the wrong idea my friend

Yeah he does lmao. I came down here to see if my ears are crazy lmao

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