Official HATER reviews the new WARPAINTS FANATIC paints! 

Nowhere as good as pro acryl

Delicious! ...except for the ice yellow 🤢

Actually pretty good

Used them over the weekend, had brush lick, can say they taste awhful, it's the first time I have licked a brush and went uuggghhh

@@JuanHidalgoMiniaturesEven the Blue (Bleugh)?

Thanks, much appreciated

They are such a massive jump in terms of quality that they really feel like a total different company

The more good brands we have the better for everyone

LOL

pro acryl/monument can be a little sassy in a fun way, too. Look at the most expensive line item on their website.

​@UntiltedName I love Monument Hobbies for this reason, they were who I had in mind when I said most companies. The Pants Blue is a favourite of mine; I thought they were referring to someone like Homer Simpson because his trousers (I'm English so Pants to me are under pants, but I'm aware that Americans call trousers pants) are blue and are similar to that blue paint. They told me on Instagram that it is a reference to 40 year old Virgin with Steve Carell. eye for an Ivory is another great name they have.

Yellow Snow is taken by Cuttlefish Colors.

They could have worked with Ryan Reynolds to come up with a whole range of colors inspired by Deadpool (Betty White, Clockwork Orange, Mennen Black, etc)

Thanks

Totally get it

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Also, Vallejo and AK are in every hobby store here in Canada (at least in Ontario). No sourcing issues here, and by comparison AP Fanatics look to be about $1 more than Vallejo or AK. So yeah, with the crap paints in the past and 2/3 drybrushes falling apart after the first cleaning, AP won't get my wallets attention. Great video regardless.

Agree with this 100%. I don’t think AP should be applauded for selling bad products for years, then owning up to it so they can sell you a new line of paints that do what other acrylic paints have been doing for 20 years. They did it with speed paint, they did it with these, I’m sure they’ll do it again it the future.

I tried to be as honest and fair as possible

It's more noticeable once dry but again, this might not be a problem for you or most people but it is for me and my very particular needs

I really couldn't see much of a difference, either - but things like that don't always carry well on a computer monitor with a limited color space.

You are correct and thanks

Yeah I noticed that, but the name is a problem and wanted to point it out

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Fully agree with you on that one. Also, I wouldn't eb surprised if Army Painter tried their hands at a "pure pigment" range at some point. They work directly with a lot of artists and I'd be surprised if that wasn't a concern they brought up.

Pure red is one of the primer spray matched colors, and the name was used in the old range. I suspect AP decided to keep the name as a holdover in order to have it match the sprays of the same name. Possibly confusing? Yes. Could the primer issue have been solved better? Probably. I wonder what the practical name on the side of the bottle is for Pure Red. I feel including that aspect would have made the criticism stronger, but it's still a good video!

Their warm reds aren't red either. I've just tried the darkest shade ("Resplendent Red"). I wouldn't even call it a red. It's more like dark orange.

@@Wintericecrystal I'm pretty sure that a lot of the issues with the range stem from their attempt to carry over similar colours from the old range in an attempt not to lose fans of those paints. I think they should have just re-arranged all the colours new from the gorund up without worrying about colour matching. That said, I'm pretty happy with the range overall. My two biggest gripes are the lack of "true" reds, like you noted, and the puples.

Yes, I wanted to give the most honest review I could and I think I did just that.

You are going to love them

"I have been using Army Painter for a number of years" 😱😱

​@@an0nycatonce my local shop started carrying Vallejo I quickly switched.

@@karlcarpenter771 Then keep using Vallejo, AK and Two Thin Coats are also top tier

I would have chosen different colours for sure

Good point, they are going to be amazing for commission painters!

Exactly my thoughts

The reds are absolute garbage in this line. Daemonic Yellow is solid, but I won't even try the oranges, and stick with vallejo or AK

Oh yeah

Maybe, it's still extremely desaturated as are most of the paints in the set. I get it, but it's not for me as I like to mix colours a lot.

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Will you retain the same coverage but get a brighter color by adding a few drops of ink to the wet palette?

You will lose coverage as you are adding a transparent pigment

That's why there are so many different paint companies and I'm convinced that paints that work for me don't work for you not only because of preference but also where you live in the world , your surroundings play a huge role in how a paint reacts ........let's not forget Options are good , in so many ways........this new fanatic paint is great , is it lacking in some areas .......yes .......but what paint line isn't ........

They do have their good ideas for sure

Love Stahly!! He is a reference for me in terms of reviews and he is also a super nice guy in person. 10/10

Stahly’s reference charts are gold

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I wanted to say as I couldn't say it before as I had to go to work that at least as an Australian, getting Vallejo/AK paints is easy for us. Its the other more niche brands such as Pro Acryl and Two Thin Coats for example that are difficult for us. The problem I have with AP's new range is that they're going to be between $8-9 aud, so roughly $3.50-$4 dollars more than Vallejo! Also, the warpaints air are something that is also very saturated. I love some of their teals and brighter colours, but I find they just lack the vibrancy Vallejo Game Colour has which is something i've always seen as a staple for VGC. Any chance you'll be talking about Vallejo model colours range refresh?

@Imperialguardftw yes I will do a similar review of the Model Color range soon. Stay tuned.

@@ImperialguardftwYeah they defos are looking expensive for us. I did order some Pro Acryl from Gap Games in Brisbane who have decent prices if you were looking for em.

Reds are the worst for me of the range

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I just got a bunch of reds from the new Vallejo game colour range and Two Thin Coats. Can’t wait to compare! Thanks for the reply, I love your videos!

@greendalf123 game Color has some amazing reds! I'm sure you will like them

100% agreed. Bold Pyrole Red and Burnt Red from Pro Acryl are top notch.

Thanks

They are great, glad you enjoy them

Great choices

Exactly!

Good use

Thanks!!

I will for sure. It was so much fun

Happy to help

Never buy the whole set of anything, that's my number one advice

Perfect explanation

I never had that issue myself, nor did any of my students during masterclass

Vallejo expensive?? They're like 2.99 a bottle!

Exactly

I just received the new Model Color, they are amazing

It's exactly the same idea

I can totally see the difference myself. Just look at the dried paint on the model. It's extremely desaturated. That being said I'm very sensitive to colour and not everyone is as much or cares about it.

My guess is I have some very old ones or a defective batch

Thanks

Thanks!!

I agree

More than probably

This was filmed a while ago, depending on when you subbed that can happen, if I missed you I'm very sorry

​@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures no need to apologise, mate. I don't sub for any reason than to support you making these videos. My original comment was just banter 👍

What I personally applaud AP for is for not compromising for once and genuinely trying to make the best product they can. That is a good thing, it shows evolution. Also the more good paints in the market, the better for all of us as consumers. Even if you don't buy them and I respect that, it's a net positive for you

Availability is an important factor

Looking in the wrong places champ vallejo is as easy to fin in Australia as Citadel.... in fact its harder to find single Army Painter pots in Aus than Vallejo. I just looked and got heaps of hits

Where on earth do you love that you can't get Vallejo but you can get army painter. Vallejo is all over the place in Melbourne, Adelaide, and Perth

Exactly! If you don't mind that you are going to LOVE then

Completely agree and thanks!

Thanks

Thanks, I agree

Exactly

Really? That's weird

As I said, it's not a deal breaker but something you need to know in advance

I would never suggest anyone buying the whole set of any brand, it's insane. Always pick a choose from as many brands as possible

No I didn't but had comments from people that did. I can only report in good faith about my own experience

Happy to help!

I'm going to receive the full range VERY soon

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures ah very cool. I got some of the new game color. They are really good as well. But im allways been a more "model color" dude haha

It is

Gracias

No son malas, simplemente no son para todo el mundo

Vallejo will be fine. With mini paints we like to talk a lot about which one is best, but at the end of the day if you are using even a halfway decent paint you can get a mini painted well. I've used proacryl, vallejo, AP, reaper, and golden. They all basically work the same (except the older gen AP that stuff I use only for dry brushing now) in that they won't fight you. Dont feel regret in buying a "slightly less hyper optimal" paint range. There is no such thing as a perfect paint range they all have flaws and different cost/benefit ratios. You bought a paint range that's not going to fight you and has very good qualities for painting.

Vallejo are amazing, instead of giving them away, just buy AK to COMPLEMENT the range

No single paint brand is the best. They all do different things. Some have terrible metallics. Some lack saturated paints. Some have poor reds, etc etc. I have paint from 5 different brands for this reason. Even more if you factor in the paints I have for model kits

Thanks for all the replies! Glad to hear it's too paranoid of me to think Vallejos were a bad decision after all. I'll probably be supplementing the line with a few AK paints though, they have some nice shades that are still missing from Vallejo GCs (although that New Model Color is around the corner, maybe I'll wait and see). Cheers

@@Bakecrustolol Don't regret anything. I was in similar spot as you not so long ago. I have lots of AK, some Pro Acryl, few Vallejo, full set of Scale 75 Fantasy & Games and new set of 50 Warpaints Fanatic (I don't buy Citadel). I dumped a lot of money into different paints I've never needed and can say this: choose two or three brands you feel comfortable with and work with them. It really doesn't matter which ones. Pro Acryl are nice, but here (I'm from Poland too) their price does not justify purchasing them. They're just not that good. I buy AK from Al Legro at 11-13 PLN and I'm pretty happy. Scale 75 F&G are nice, but need some learning to use. Vallejo has some really good Metal Color range (the best metal I've ever seen) and that's what I'm mostly using. I've painted Blood Pass Thunderer with Warpaints and they're nice too. Miniature painting is not science - there's very little objective things there. People are swearing by Vallejo Model Colors and I find them too thick to use. People will die on Pro Acryl hill and I find them too expensive to buy. New Army Painter Fanatic seem nice and as they're easy to find, I will supplement my AK collection with them (plus AP washes are the ones I use, no other). Don't regret anything, just paint and have fun. Reach out for new paints here and there to try something new and don't limit yourself to one brand. If you go with Vallejo, AK and new Army Painter you'll not be dissapointed.

YES! They cover very well

Good point about the bottles! That happened to me too

I only find it’s the bottles for the Metallics that leak in the cap. The acrylic I don’t see them doing this issue.

They totally have and the brighter and more colourful the colour scheme the more you notice it. The yellow here is a perfect example

My hunch is that they probably used some white to increase the opacity - skewing it pinkish

Then again, it's really hard to tell on the RU-vid video, I'm sure it's probably more obvious in person!

Darude - Sandstorm

That makes sense but I never had that happen with Contrast

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures you don't make it pool unlike us noobs :)

I haven't experienced any bleeding into lighter tones myself. Are they better? No. Are they close or even equal in quality in some cases? Yes.

I made the same experiences. I noticed that the colors reactivate and start to bleeding?

With those colours (purple and violets) you run into a bit of an issue. They are so transparent that the most saturated colours are also VERY dark. These are my favourites I'm both categories, mixed and single pigment: Single pigment: - Kimera Magenta (PR122 THE magenta pigment) - Kimera Purple (PV19 a good warm purple pigment) - Kimera Violet (PV23 EXTREME saturation and tinting, super rich dark colder violet. Looks almost black until you thin it out) - Liquitex Quinacridone Magenta ink (PR122, same as the Kimera Magenta) Mixed pigments: - Pro Acryl Royal Purple - VMC Royal Purple - Scale75 Artist Dark Violet (mix of two transparent pigments, no white in it whatsoever, very rich and warm purple) - VGC Evil Red (I think this one is pure pigment or a mix of two transparent ones, has ZERO white in it. One of my favourites) - VGC Deep Magenta (a BIT desaturated but not much, almost anecdotal) - VGC Warlord Purple (this has white in the mix but not as much)

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Thanks for all of those recommendations! I'll see which ones I have available to me and start experimenting.

En España no tiene sentido por el precio

Nice to know!

Outside the EU is different but here they are everywhere and glad that's the case

I live in Singapore, when I heard that it hard to find Vallejo hard to find outside of EU I was surprised, it's one of more common here, maybe only Citadel is more common

It's coming!

Trust me, they are TOTALLY different from the ones I have. I gave the full range here and use them extensively for metallics.

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures that simply isn't correct. the formula for the washes is the same. they didn't change the wash formula. I have complete ranges of both, and mine act the same. I don't know why yours are different. but Army Painter has confirmed the wash formulation has not changed at all. It was one of the products customers loved and did not want altered so they did not change it at all. again, this has been confirmed all over the internet by Army Painter themselves, and also confirmed by countless people using the product.

@slickschoppers I can only judge the products I have and trust me, mine are completely different. I don't mind why that is, maybe a defective batch, maybe paint that got old in the racks and deteriorated. But the fact remains that it's not the same at all and I'm not the only one to have that experience.

No debería suceder, déjame que investigue

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures si por fi. Pq no se pq pasa ,más con el agrax que con el barniz pero la levanta

A mí la reactivación me pasa con todas las que he usado, no sólo con las rojas, incluso usando el barniz acrílico vallejo. No sé si es el hecho de que muchas veces no uso un primer al uso (uso Dual Exo AK o Molotow Free-4-all), pero otras pinturas tipo contrast no se reactivan, xpress sí. Hice una reciente que había dejado tranquilamente 5 días antes de barnizar, se reactivó en la primera capa y en la segunda de barniz. Eso sí, uso pincel.

You say that and they are COMPLETELY different to the old ones I have and I have the full range of the old ones btw. These are definitely not the same thing. Not sure what happened but I assure you they are not the same. Maybe the ones I have are very old and they changed the formula at some point in the past, that can be the case but they are not the same. Different texture, different thickness, different behaviour, different finish. Same hues though, that is true

I agree, that's why I made that point in the video

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I was wondering when you are going to make a video on the Vallejo New Game color and why it leaves bubbles after drying 😅 and ruins the whole miniature. It's only fair.

I was waiting till I had the new Model Color as they are the same formula. About the bubble thing, I never had any issues and I've painted a lot of things with them. I really can't understand how people are having problems with that myself but I will try and replicate it for the video.

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I never had an issue with reactivation from army painter because I waited til it drys but yet it still exists 😅. Stahly(Tales of Painters) made a video recently explaining the color yellow and from his experience the bubbles happen after you shake the paint and paint with it. Vallejo's new game color has a separation issue as well when using it on a wet palette.

@@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I do look forward to your videos and can't wait for the review 💪

MUCH better

Mine looks worse once dry, and my camera makes it a bit more saturated even. I really don't like it.

No because both hues have white in them so you end up with a greyish mess again. You need pure pigments for that yo work