Currently reading Alone Together..."we're" on the way back from Hawaii now, and a couple hundred miles off SF...enjoying every chapter. Greetings from 47º 27" 47" N 52º 42" 23" W
The Cape Horn is indeed an amazing, refined piece of equipment. My spouse and I sailed a 35-footer with one 13k miles from the US east coast to New Zealand with zero problems. Can't recommend them enough. So good to see an in-depth video. Takes me back!
He's right. It is a intimate thing. I recall taking a delivery from Hawaii to California, and the Skipper had a padel assisted version aswell. Truely a godsent.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on ANYTHING. You are the epitome of erudition. Your adventures inspire me and many (at least 65K) others. It is always a thrill of anticipation when a notification of one of your videos pings my phone. Please keep yourself safe and as active as you want to be.
It's a very interesting example of how often times "sloppy fit" mechanisms are preferable to even a nearly rigid mechanism, for rough uses. I'd be interested to see a live camera shot from below when it is under max loads of the type that makes attachments fail. And I'm impressed that the friction in the system is so low it seems to have no binding issue, again the slop works. Kudos for mentioning the A+ aesthetics of the Capehorn, illustrating that true sailors are concerned with beauty for it's own sake.
Sloppy fit has proven time and tike again to result in the replacement of the less expensive components than does tight fit rigging set-ups, imho. 👍😁🍺🍷
Brilliant simple engeenering love this Cape Horn self stearwind vain. Your explanation of how it works well thought out and excellently delivered video 📹 thank you 😊 Buzz
About halfway to Hawaii, we, too, discovered that the eyebolts on the ship's quadrant need to be at least 3/8" not smaller. That alone tells you all you need to know about the tremendous lateral loads in this otherwise ideal system that performed perfectly to NZ and back to the PNW.
Enjoyed your profond appriciation for the wind vane thay are a thing of simplisity that does so much and never asks for pay, a brake , vacation or a pat on the back for doing an astonding performance .
Very interesting Christian Williams I just love the way you explain yourself and the way you upgraded your boat it's such a pleasure just to be able to understand the way things work as you explain them through the story you're truly a great teacher and I appreciate all you've done for the Sailing Community and Mankind tight lines brother
You just might be the smartest sailor alive. Your videos are so educational and, at the same time, so educational. I'm not one who sails, but watching your videos ,that desire keeps mounti!
Thanks for the 'Pick me up' Christian. I'm in the process of refitting my Cap Horn windvane to allow gas bottles & sheets to hopefully do their thing without problems. I'll be up & sailing within 6 months (fingers crossed) & as a singlehander, I'll be looking forward to meeting my only mechanical crew member..👍
Great video, remembering what it was like from our circumnavigation in the 1980s, presently cruising the Bahamas. My wife's book is a good read, published by Austin Macauley of New York, literally a fictional story of sailing and adventure: "Seychelle and the Cannabis Yachties". It is very entertaining, hoping you will give it a read.
I love your channel and your narrative that goes with it! I look forward to every video that you post. I wish it was far more regular as when I am watching your videos I feel like I am spending time with a man who has a very old wise soul inside even if his eyes still see the World as though he is 17. Thank you so much for giving me the the joy (and admitted envy) that you do. I look forward to the next visit!
I was hoping for the delicate preference for the elegant vs. the more crude alternative in retrospect. I suspect that is better left to the individual as they asses their own requirements. Either way, I fine chapter from one my favorite seamen. Fair winds and following seas!
We sailed around the world through the trade winds and the Canadian Arctic via the Northwest Passage aboard Balthazar, our 35-foot centerboard. That's over 55,000 miles with a CapeHorn wind vane with no issues. He holds the course better than a teammate, whatever the wind speed and angle. It's the best investment we've made when building Balthazar. ;)
Olá caro amigo, prazer em novamente revelo. Agradeço a sua explanação. Tenho pena de não puder ser traduzido para português, no entanto deu para perceber os pormenores mais importantes. Muito obrigado. Um grande abraço e até breve.
In fact it's uncomplicated and it seems so. No power source. No tight tolerances, all the stresses are handled by the same family of hardware that is used for the sails; line & pulley wheels. What it does seem is puzzling; which is very different than complicated.
Fascinating. Thank you. I look at all those stretchy lines and blocks and fittings, all going through thousands of load cycles hour after hour. I wonder if many of them could not be eliminated with a direct drive, gear-driven coupling between the two quadrants? Quieter, fewer moving parts, less slop in transmitting force to the steering wheel. Probably more expensive, more complicated to install though. Also, I gather that boat heading with this vane is entirely a matter of wind heading, i.e., you could turn in for a night's sleep with the boat set up on a broad reach, heading due west with a wind coming straight out of the north. You wake up a couple hours later and discover you're now heading northwest because the wind has backed around to the northeast. I'm sure you must have some kind of alarm system installed to let you know when there are major changes in heading.
You don't sleep for 2 hours when single handing.....and when you get to be Christian William's age, you will find that you get piss calls more often than once every 2 hours. Don't ask me how I know.
In an era of electronics armed with Artificial Intelligence software that can replace human thinking, it is a great pleasure to see an ingenious mechanical system that fights successfully an environment with multiple forces fighting back relentlessly against the objective. Hail to the Victors as the U of M song goes.
YAY your still sailing. Do you ever take people out on your adventures if they would like to learn how to sail? Would you ever sail to the Philippines?
Could this work on a center cockpit boat? Wondering if all the below decks gubbins could hook up to the existing steering mechanism aft of the cockpit.
I deeply enjoy your content, and look forward to the day I can wave to you from Oasis (a beneteau 423 out of marina del Rey). Other than the obvious value of conserving electricity, are there other advantages of a vane over an electric autopilot?
Since the vane is set to the apparent wind with the sails trimmed to the conditions, you will continue to sail fairly efficiently even if your compass course changes with wind shifts, which could be good or bad, of course, but with an autopilot sailing to a waypoint or compass heading, you may not always be getting the most out of your sail set...I guess that just gives the crew on watch something to think about and sort out!
I wonder how this CapeHorn vane compares to the Hydrovane and to other options like fully integrated electronics that take course, winds, etc. into account.
They all work. The boat design, shape of transom and commitment to battery power dictate the choice. Mechanical vanes work well and require no big battery bank or complicated recharging schemes (both of which get expensive fast). But you still need a wheel pilot for motoring. In a yacht heavy on electronics, with banks of lithium batteries and inverter for microwave and hairdryer, a powerful hydraulic self steering system makes sense, and keeps the transom clear. But electronics can fail mysteriously, while issues with a mechanical vane can usually be fixed. As to choice of vane, the boat matters, not so much for performance but installation. The Cape Horn, especially, is much easier to install on some boats than it is on others, it just depends on the way the belowdecks steering apparatus is configured.
hi christian great video very informative , when running down wind in heavy following sea do you stream lines astern , deploy a drogue , or use one of those devices which is a rope with numerous cups along its length the more you deploy the more drag is placed on the stern preventing broaching , would this prevent the inevitable broach at night that you describe
What made you go for this design over the hydrovane which doesn't require any connection to the ships steering? Your wind vane is very compact and small compared to the hydrovane sail
I’m currently in the process of rebuilding/fitting a 1929 international 8m j-class, I’m wondering if it’s possible to mount a wind vane to the stern? I’ve googled, researched endlessly for a proper way to install a reliable setup that both is incredibly solid and functional, as well as complementing the beautiful classic lines of the boat. If anyone has any suggestions or references, it would be greatly appreciated. My goal is to set up up as a short handed racer/cruiser, and solo her until king Neptune takes her, myself or us both.
Maybe install some wifi cams? The wooden blocks seem to be able to come off indeed. This type of steering also reacts to the tilt of the boat because its fixed..
The kinks (see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oz8wpl9YG1o.html&t) have been worked out. I appreciate the low-profile permanent install. I enjoy being able to engage the vane without much pre-rigging, since the control lines are always attached. But you still have to drop the blade into the water and install the vane on the structure. I continue to believe that wind vane steering is of very limited value for daysailing, although invaluable for long passages. The Cape Horn works well. Degree of difficulty of the installation depends on the boat's existing steering system--some installs are easier than others. Elegance? The Cape Horn beats all. But all wind vanes work, so it remains a matter of choice.
I tried to visualize, when shown (9:50) the "Ronstan blocks" where they would be, "safety wired" if they could be safety wired. Is the failure point presumed to be the axle? Anybody know?
@@alcooper944 Thanks, I think I get it. The axle on the stirrup (lubber term) has a screw threaded end, and it works out. If they were longer the end could be drilled for safety wire. I was seeing them as peened over permanently like a rivet rather than threaded but now I see one bit fat end and the other not so fat.
Sure, all the big sailboats have autopilots now. A wind vane makes no demands on energy and can be fixed when it breaks, and is often more appropriate for older sailboats without massive battery banks for deep freeze, AC, microwaves and so on. The price of electric autopilot and vane steering installation is about the same.
Maybe I missed it: I didn’t hear comment about setting course. The wind vane steers the boat to maintain the course, so shall I assume that you set course first, and then engage the wind vane? Thanks.
The windvane steers by the wind. You set the vane at the angle to the wind that (at that moment) points you in the direction you want to go. As the wind changes direction the wind vane keeps you to the same angle to the wind so the boat will now be off course. As a result you need to readjust the angle of the wind vane to put you back on course. So the windvane doesn't keep you to a compass bearing.
Yes, the vane is mounted on a 360 degree turret that can be rotated, by hand or by remote control line, in the horizontal plane to align the vane's leading edge exactly with the apparent wind direction once the boat is set on the desired course and the ship's rudder position is locked in the centerline.
Having just completed a 600-mile downwind passage, two-up, with a nonfunctional autopilot, I am now shopping for a windvane gear. No way will I put myself or my shipmate through that torment again. Unfortunately the layout of my steering gear precludes the Cape Horn system, which would otherwise be my choice. I don’t like scaffolding look of the Monitor or Aries, fine systems though they are. Will have to choose between Windpilot or Neptune…
Try this, and turn on CC (closed captions). Part II of "Moving up to a larger boat" in Playlists. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GejFiqDUSAw.html
