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For those saying that Misha is better than Chu, I don’t want to ruin the party but Chu is playing 4 position whenever he plays an agressive support whereas Misha plays a full 5 support. Taiga can do his role because Taiga is a full 4 (remember his Enigma plays?) whenever they have their full roster. I’m an OG fan myself, I like Chuvash’s playstyle but come on guys you are comparing a full 5 to a 4 player. It’s like “JeRax is better than n0tail”
Your argument is invalid because every time OG played with misha on majors had a bad result and every time OG played without Misha in a major they won. Stats don’t lie, there’s a reason why a few people in the world are successful and few stay losers. The successful people base their decisions on facts! Not emotions, your full support 5 is weaker than Taiga playing as a 5 role ( won two majors ) hence I repeat your argument is absolutely invalid and shit.
@@ZABYLIVE “every time OG played without Misha in a major they won” PGL Arlington, Ceb Standin - 4th place. Thus making your statement more invalid. You provide a factual statement first before claiming someone saying “invalid” where I just said a factual reasoning with Chuvash playing 4/4.5 making Taiga almost a 5. Just check their roles and networth every game. I’m not saying OG will be better if Misha is there. I’m just saying the statement “Chu is better than Misha” is invalid in terms of what they give to the team. Better say “Chu is a better 4 than Taiga”.
AMMAR said chu is the weakest was just a front, so that other teams wont feel any threats when chu is playing, but man, the patience and positioning, his ES is much better than CEB's
OG is top 2 team in DPC points, won Stockholm Major, Top 4 Arlington, Top 3 at least now in ESL Malasya. Why dont reconize that even with all his Visa problems OG is a solid, constant and powerfull team with an average team roster age of 20 years?
People love hating. The more they hate mainstream teams the more they get high. Although, i get why people hate OG for ATF. Personally, idc, I just want to see ATF and TorontoTokyo TT each other - hopefully they'll meet. Lol
I don’t think people aren’t recognizing they are a strong team, people just root against them because of the arrogance (specifically ATF). Part of their identity and team strat is to tilt people by being trolls, so you can’t be upset when that has the consequence of making non-OG fans root against them. In life, people generally like an underdog, and OG’s attitude (and clear skill) means that every team that plays against them gets to be an underdog that people root for.
imagine being so delusional critiziing people for cheering for theuir favorite team haha you realize the loyal fans probably buy more merch than people who just watch casualyl
I mean, it's fine to be biased but if the home team already got eliminated you still have to cheer and enjoy the game and don't booo the opponents that play against the home team.
Wp by Chu and bzm On all games played by Yuragi using ember, he was outcarried by Ammar/bzm and dies frequently to inefficient usage of Remnants and low mana. He’s got a wide hero pool yet they let him keep playing Ember in which he clearly needs more practice.
in game 2 if PALOS is not getting caught for many times he was like top of the networth then suddenly became top 3. only thing he can improve is map awareness
Chuu is an absolute monster. Damn this might be Ceb's permanent retirement ticket from tournaments as a stand in. Misha can sit and relax on their base for now
@UC6V-tf7cSgSxQH87Pjay3yw why all og misha fangays keeps talking about regional game as a big accomplishment? oh yeah right thats the only trophy OG can win when they were with misha. why are u bitching about kicking someone with high certainty of not attending TI? Bunch of hypocrites, OG fangays didn even bat an eye when they kick midone for ana
11:51 I never know tier 1 team can play like archon And visage and CM like : My carry is dead I've no purpose in live let me join them Funniest shit so far today Thanks Fnatic
Damn palos no impact. Always dies first, gets caught in the trees after team has tp'd out, uses bkb just to tp out in the middle of the clash and almost zero damage contribution during team fights.
what u expect from a stand in. it's impressive that they finished top 4 lmao if LGD and spirit in this tournament, they probably not make it out the group stage
@@whisperviz1346 even for a stand in that was way too terrible. Fnatic still trading with OG 4v5 even without their carry, they could have easily won the match if he's alive for the team fight. Lol you mean team spirit who went home earlier than fnatic in stockholm major? hahaha still thinking a team keeps being on top after every patch.
Why should anyone support teams from their region. People can choose whichever team they like and support them. There’s no obligation to support your server lol
I think bcoz rn they dont have a good player with big impact in pro scene. Like mushi. Abed and midone are mediocre rn, not like in the past and ice3x is getting older. And maybe (in my case) bcoz covid i starting to forget about fnatic and tnc players.
That game 2 shattered Fnatic's confidence. Game 3 really was OG's game for that amount of space enabled for Yuragi, even BZM opting to be active than farm early items. OG players casually popping off.
NA definitely. NA doesn’t even deserve a slot nor a TI chance. They just suck at a game like Dota. See how they get EU, SEA players to play for them and yet those players suck now.
pretty sure if teams just start banning all of ammar's heroes OG will never win, he plays the same shit every game, viper razor timber whatever other carry hero they give him
@@muhammadadibnorudin291 its not that little. he got underlord, mars, ns, dk, viper, timber, razor, huskar. banning all of those will provide yuragi and bzm chance to counterpick easily. in the other hand, bzm is the real deal that should get more attention in ban pick phase
He's also good with huskar underlord and mars that's just too many bans for a single core and when you get to ban 6 heroes it's already too late. they can just pick his hero in 1st phase/2nd phase. And there are some yuragi/bzm heroes that you don't want to play against with certain drafts. imagine yuragi's arc warden in a good arc game or bzm on any hero that counters enemy cores that's just an auto win.
Wrong sir ! Ammar got 10 fkin heroes how they will ban 10 heroes ? They will waste all bans only for Ammar. :))) Then BZM and Yuragi got a large hero pool same as Ammar. How to counter them ? You can win against OG only if you are super skilled individually or if they have a bad day. They are kids bro, they are hungry.
he make one good play against entity and people start calling him dj god lmao I mean he is good, but on SEA level. you need to be as good as XinQ to be called best sup4.
@@whisperviz1346 you know you're lying lol one good play? Dj has proven himself since ti6 and has been consistent. You definitely only saw a couple of games from him. As usual the Indon is hating. Hyde will never be as good as him im afraid
