Oh Dear Microsoft! Windows 10 KB5034441 Will Not be Offered Under The Following Conditions! 

They could simply stop offering it! What a mess.

Amazing that MS make a USB installer that creates the recovery partition at a certain size then they release an update that fails to install because the recovery partition is to small. How could these pack of clowns not realize that for months then tell you to fix it yourself.

Who woulda thunk laying off your QA team would actually have consequences. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Microsoft have lost the plot. We all have real lives to live not messing about with computers.

I'm another old guy who has used MS products since the MSDOS days, but recently moved to Linux Mint. Linux noob-friendlyness is hugely improved since the last time I looked at it. I see no reason to go back to Windows.

MS is playing with customers who are compelled to use windows 10, or who can not afford to update OR upgrade

Every time there's a generation change at Microsoft there's a wave of strange security issues and problems appearing because those making the patches aren't aware of what the previous generation knew.

Having recently handled this on my computer, Microsoft is being dumb. They very well could get this update to apply just fine. The issue is supposed to be that there isn't enough space on the recovery drive for the update. Vut the final file fits just fine as long as it is at least 475 MB. And it had to be at least 465 MB for the old image. Seeing as most people will have a round number (e.g. 500 or 512), it would almost certainly fit. So the problem must be not having enough free space to apply the patch. But there's an obvious solution to that. Windows can disable the Recovery drive, which copies the image file back to the Windows folder. Now you most likely have plenty of space to apply the patch the image file. Then just reemable the recovery partion, which will copy the file back. How do I know this will work? Because I basically did this. Moving my recovery partition was too much of a headache, so I made a new one that was 1GB, and deleted the old one (after disabling it, of course.) I allowed the update to apply to it. Then I noticed the resulting image file was small enough to fit my old recovery partition. So I disabled it, deleted the new partition, and recreated the old one. Then I reenabled it, and it worked perfectly. Now, of course, this is all rather complicated to do. My point is just that I proved Microsoft is making this much harder than they have to. They could have just applied the patch in the Windows folder. Or, heck, replace the recovery image. It's not like each user has a their own special one. There seems at most to be one per version of Windows 10 (e.g. Pro, Education, etc.).

The most annoying part of it is a vast number of end users don't even use the recovery features and reinstall Windows instead, making this feature and update useless.

What a mess! Amazing that a company the size of Microsoft and with the resources it has cannot aotomate a solution to this problem (which should not have occurred in the first place).

I fixed this problem by installing Linux Mint.

This keeps feeding my decision to switch to Linux a month ago, with positivity

They want the average home user to use regedit and the command prompt for a basic update. Maybe MS is preparing them for a certain OS where the terminal is a bit more centric to the user experience?

Many users probably do not even know that Windows is updating in the background until the message appears Windows needs to restart. Even after that restart people just go on with their lifes and do whatever.

This is absolute BS from Microsoft, because at the end of the day if their is another update and has the same situation like the 4441and they don't fix this issue then we are gonna get updates that we can't install until we increase the partition size. What the hell is wrong with Microsoft?...

I'm very Windows-savvy but I am not going to mess with commands to resize a partition, especially with the variables involved.

Microsoft, total incompetence.

"Someone would have to come into your house and sit at your computer", i.e. steal your laptop, which is the scenario where you most want drive encryption.

Luckily I have Partition Magic. Extended the recovery partition slightly without any trouble.

Just updated my Win10 and the useless KB5034441 has disappeared from my download list. Now I can resume normal updates and not have to put up with M$ pestering me every day to install it.

At this point, everyone needs to stop using windows, as a main pc. Install a linux distro on a new machine, then use boxes or vmware to run windows 11 to install all your games and windows dependent stuff.

I had that update on my laptop and it installed just fine but my dad's desktop has been failing to install it Also I even noticed something the update Windows 10 ver 22H2 (KB5040427) I noticed on the Welcome screen when turning on my laptop it has a Windows 11 default background image

I don't even use a password on my PC because I only use it for games, and when I power it on it goes directly into Windows 10. So I guess I don't need this update to protect it from someone trying to break into it!

Just hide the update as you've mentioned. Microsoft should just release an updated ISO that has this fix in place (for new installs , of course), and leave pre-existing installs alone. The RE partition size not being big enough IS NOT the only problem; I've tested 1-2GB RE partitions with this KB and it still fails. MS botched something in the IMG, plain and simple.

Interesting, I just had a look at my update history and it's been successfully installed. I don't use bitlocker, not have I done any of the carryon mentioned, it's just happened when I wasn't looking, so to speak.

@5:10 so their aren't current individual exploits that do those very things?😉

Everytime this update is downloaded automatically and then it failed to install 😄

I still get pinged with this update. It's been 6 months and I don't install WinRE on any of my workstations. If I need recovery, I boot from a separate WinPE volume.

So many comments praising linux in face of a known problem with windows, which has always happened so many times since the beggining of this OS. The same can be said of linux with a not so far extremely serious problem with a compression tool, xz utils, found out by a Microsoft engineer! Problems do always exist, most of the time they are solved, in the case of the KB5034441, the load of work involved and the risk of implementing it with non-technical users is not justifiable for the benefit we would gain. I myself used a tool to hide this windows update so it will be no more presented in the future. Leave the militantism for other more important world situations. I am a long time user of windows and debian linux, using both every day.

well, I did the re-size thing so as to not have to keep unplugging the internet during boot up (loool) ...the pesky '441' update has since gone through...

MS, either fix it or remove it.

Once windows 10 support ends, my low end PC is getting some linux treatment.

Hello mr bren now time to made a relaxing poadcast

🪛 up MS. I am happy with Linux❤.

One answer: Linux!

I swear they pushed this update to force Win11 upgrades

Oh. I have not been able to update anything since August 2023!!! How will it go when I can do it?🇸🇪

Joke's on MS; I don't even use Bitlocker and the user account doesn't have a password on it. Why does a desktop PC with one and only one user in a non-corporate environment even need encryption and passwords? They just make data recovery more difficult when the WIndows install inevitably craps the bed one day.

If you bought in to M$’ “updates” nonsense, you only have yourself to blame.

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I would jump ship to Linux if those dudes were not obsessed with finding the new "flavor" so obsessively... MS does things that make you wonder if they actually know what they want... I went to W11 after convincing myself that there was no future in W10, and now they keep the updates for W10...

in my OPINION, Microsoft did this on purpose.. So that you may need to buy a new CPU (COMPUTER) With win 11 on it.............

DEI in effect. Shoutout to Boeing and Delta

I'm not going to do Microsofts job for them. If it needs to install and wont, that is on them, not me.

If Microsoft breaks my computer, they owe me a new one. If I gather a couple hundred seriously pissed-off users with the same issue and take a couple busloads to Redmond to pick up our new machines...

Windows 10 is especially terrible, since always