Hey man I've got a 22 SP and this is my first Grom. How often do you suggest changing the oil? Also I've heard the first oil change, the filter doesn't need to be changed. Lots of conflicting info out there. Thanks!
I would think about 3k miles every oil change but I’ve recently been hearing a lot about bikes running hotter so maybe every 2k or so to be safe. Your first oil change you have to change the oil and filter and that needs to be around 500 miles. There’s metal in the oil and around the filter and you wanna get as much of that out as you can. You’ll literally see little metal hairs on the filter if you look closely
They may have been referring to the oil screen which I still have yet to clean because this is the first year Grom that has a filter. The rest only rely on the screen. This has an actual filter and a screen
@@egoboost9952 Gotcha thanks man. This is a very good video. I checked the sight glass for my oil (still on break in at 350 miles) and it was below the lower line. I freaked out until you said make sure it's upright not on kick stand. Luckily I have just a little below the top line. Anyway really appreciate you taking the time to make a video like this for noobs like me
@@L8-APEX of course bro, thanks for watching it. I like helping people out. Everyone learned everything they know at some point or another. I’m pretty new to this stuff too but if you ever have any questions feel free to reach out whenever and I’ll help you out best I can
in the owners manual it says every 1k, i change mine every 400 miles doing stunts and being an air cooled, it also cost what 20$? just do it often, theyre always high rpm and beat to shit.
No definitely not, always replace them. If you have to you could probably reuse it for an extra cycle but only if your unable to get a new filter. I’ve done that with filters before but if you try washing them out you’ll just end up contaminating the filter and the oil. Oem is pretty readily available and cheap and there’s a few hi flows out there that people like as well. Personally I always stick with oem though
Use non synthetic at least for your first few oil changes. I always use full synthetic on my cars engines but honestly for these little ones you may be better off sticking with good non synthetic. I always use the ProHobda GN4 4 stroke 10w 40 or 10w 30. But if you wanna go full synthetic I would say do at least 3-5 oil changes at the and put a few thousand miles on it before switching over. I couldn’t tell you why that’s the way to do it but I’ve heard that from a few different people and shops as well as the dealer I get my parts from and my bike from
@@egoboost9952 Full synthetic oil can cause an engine to not break in properly because it's so "slippery", and you don't get enough friction on the rings and bearings and they will glaze causing it to burn oil.
Do you know if there’s anywhere online to get these parts? It says there’s only one Honda powersport dealer in az. If I have to drive up there I can but I’m just wondering
Sorry bro I just saw this. You should be able to order them online, make sure the eg have the same part numbers though. Your best bet would be to go to a Honda powersports dealer though
I rode easy the first 20 miles, then beat it to redline ever gear ever after. I changed oil first at 200 miles and it was very dirty. Took filter out and it looked good so reused. Changed again at 700 miles so 500 mile oci and oil looked gold and almost new. Still original filter, about 1200 miles on it now.
I beat this little bike up more than I should have during the break in period if I’m being honest 😅 kind of wish I didn’t but so far so good. I would definitely swap that filter out soon though because there’s metal shavings in there from the break in and you want that out asap
@@egoboost9952 the thing is, CBR150R and other variants uses liquid cooled engines. It has counter balance snaps and destroy the engine because of the scum build up in the oil. I think Honda should revise those engines.
first if all your first oil change should come about after 10 hours and when you change the oil if you can blow air through the place you add oil and while it drains actually if you have the wits and tools you should tear down the motor till you can wipe down the very bottom of the inside of the motor . I have lost a many of small engines due to casting sand.another thing you can try is to tilt the unit toward the oil change bolt and hold it there for a while. hopefully you can get rid of all casting sand. then after your first oil change go about every 20-25 hours between oil changes
I would definitely suggest trying to maybe tilt it or whatever you can do to get everything out but I wouldn’t go so far as to take it apart and wipe it all down. I just feel like it could do more harm than good, I just stay on top of it and do my first 2 oil changes 500 miles apart
Is there anything else that should be done on the "break in service" on the 2022 grom? dealer was trying to scare me out of doing that first "break in service oil change" myself
Nope with your first one I would do exactly what I did in this video. Just make sure it’s around 500 - 600 miles or so maybe a little more. Then I say maybe every 1500 miles or so do oil changes just like this but your 3rd or 4th oil change I would recommend taking the clutch cover off and cleaning the oil screen
Thanks for the video. I recently bought a Monkey 2022 and it has the same engine. I am afraid I will do the oil/filters by myself because I own several bikes and I do not want to spend money and time taking it to the concesion.
That’s the way to do it bro. Doing anything on your own for the first time can be kinda daunting but I promise it’s not bad at all. If you ever need help with anything feel free to reach out and I’ll help you any way I can
Yes of course, thank you so much! 3/8 ratchet 12mm socket (for oil drain plug) 8mm socket (oil filter cover) Pick (for pulling out oil filter) That should be all the tools you need. Maybe a strong magnet too to help with the filter. If you need a translation let me know what language you speak fluently and I’ll translate it for you. Good luck bro 🤙
Thanks bro I appreciate you 🤙 I did my first oil change at almost exactly 500 miles. The dealer said to do it around 600 - 800 but I was kind of beating on it a lot so I did it early. Plus I knew I was gonna do it again after 1000 miles. Now I’m gonna do it every 3000
Also a side note I was told by my dealer that you shouldn’t run synthetic oil until at least your 4th or 5th oil change. That’s the only time I’ve ever heard that but just something to be aware of
Awesome sounds good. I’ll look forward to changing the oil myself. Last bike I had was an Electra Glide and I did an oil change on that. So the grom should be a lot easier. The grom is so dialed in Honda nailed it!
@@thuggyduggy1525 nice bro good luck and have fun with it! If you have any questions or requests just let me know. And i couldn't agree with you more, Honda really did an amazing job with this bike!
@@egoboost9952 alright. Two quick things; my dealer never mentioned where the owners manual was. But I found that underneath the seat. Also I noticed the license plate light wiggles, but apparently that’s normal on the groms.
I believer the manual says every 3,500 miles however I would recommend doing it every 1,500 or so. That’s what I do at least. It’s cheap and can’t hurt, plus I put a lot of miles on mine. And even if you don’t do many miles having it sit too long you still wanna change it anyway. Always better to be safe than sorry
Once you do it for the first time you’ll see it’s easy! Dealerships are definitely a rip off I never take any of my vehicles there. I actually just started doing my own bike tires to avoid them 😂 I think I spent almost $300 on tires and having them mounted. Now I buy the same tires for like $80 and use an $80 set of tools to do it lol
I agree I think it’s kinda crazy not having an oil filter at all. At least the other motors use a screen but I feel way better having the actual filter in there
@@chucknetzhammer9489 that’s true I just made a video about getting to that screen and almost didn’t do it because I couldn’t get a gasket. The bikes down though so I’m not too worried about it. It seems to be holding oil fine anyway. Definitely a pain though
Stand is a Vortex rear stand Then I have econo pad hardware that sits under the swing arm. I got both straight from my Honda dealer where I get all my parts Vortex stand part #: 595695 Econo pad hardware part#: 610-3085
I’ve never really been to concerned about it. I can see the benefits of it I guess but I wouldn’t go out of my way too much for that. I know some people even turn the engine over with no oil to really get everything out but I would highly advise against that lmao
@@snapdrag141 I’m gonna be honest with ya, I never checked my manual 😬 minus a few small things I needed an answer to. It’s one of my flaws lmao. That’s a good point though I’d rather do things by the book on this. I’m doing a video probably this weekend I hope about doing the oil screen behind the clutch cover so I’ll be sure to run the bike first and point it out in the video. Thanks for the heads up bro 🤙
@@egoboost9952 I would just be concerned about those who store in really cold climates and if they just start draining, that 10w30 will be thick and not allow for proper drainage. You're right though, not a huge concern
Great video, thank you for the info. The oils filter number is wrong in your video description though. 15412-MGS-D21 is it. Just the last 3 digits. But thank you for putting the video/info together and posting this.
