OJ Simpson Flees The Crime Scene! 

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It’s fantastic to hear from Kato all these years later. I feel like the prosecution presented him as kind of a ditz, and he’s actually really intelligent and well-spoken.

Absolutely ridiculous that she wasn’t called as a witness….

Imagine if OJ Simpson had hit another car fleeing the scene.

The call she made came in prior to any knowledge of the murders. 1000% credible.

The fact that she reported him prior to the murders being known about makes her account 100% factual.

If the murderer hadn't been a celebrity, he would have been nailed within days and spent the rest of his life in prison

Tom, thank you for saying Miss Jill has nothing to apologize for! She is a lovely person.

Some have made bad remarks about Kato over the first years of trial but kato seems like a real good man.

When I heard about this witness in 1994 I was shocked that the prosecution did not use her.....heartbreaking.

Wouldn't have mattered with the incompetents on that jury. They are the real disgrace

Nicole was right! She told her friend, Faye Resnick, that OJ was going to kill her and that he would get away with it! Faye Resnick said that she knew OJ did it when he went up to her at the funeral and said “ I loved her too much”! OJ had major anger issues that were out of control. I can’t imagine what Nicole went through all those years living under the same roof with OJ.

It would not have mattered if Jill testified or not. The Jury was never going to convict him.

This is definitive proof of Simpson's guilt. A kindergartner would agree.

Jill Shively really got a raw deal from Marcia. I feel bad for Jill, she was the best witness in the entire case for the prosecution and Marcia's arrogance got in the way. She sold her story to Hardcopy AFTER reporting this information to the police. That's key. Marcia didn't have a clue how to handle the case. They needed a heavyweight like Bugliosi.

Does anyone else see a huge resemblance between Kato and Jill?

I always believed that Kato was a young man that was living his life and trying to fulfill his goals ,but was ended up in this nightmare.

Jill didnt blow the case. Marcia did. The trial was OVER for good and in OJ's favor, when they had him try on the gloves. And that isnt the only poor decision. Jill said it wasnt about race, but it WAS. Most of the jury were black and the Rodney King riots were not long before the trial. When one of the jurors gave OJ the black power sign as the verdict was read, and Johnny Cochran TOTALLY played into that. Those jurors saw OJ as persecuted black victim, meanwhile, he lived within the confines of a very white world, married to a young beautiful white woman. Most of his friends were white, a few black, like Marcus Allen and Al Cowlings. We watched every minute of that trial.. The DNA ALONE should have been enough to convict. I remember being VERY upset for months after that injustice of a verdict. Just my 2 cennts

You can tell Kato’s an honest guy , decent person.

How have I watched like 10 OJ docs and never heard of this woman before now. Marcia is an idiot for not putting her on the stand.

THE condo complex is still there, they have altered the front porch where Nicoles body laid.

The man couldnt have left more clues and literally confessed to the damn crime in a detailed book!!

No. Nicole’s condo is still there. They just changed the address, yard access and landscaped the outside to hide the condo.

Marcia Clark dumps the girl scout and keeps the racist cop. Makes you wonder who paid her off.

Marcia Clark was the best asset for the defense

i don't think anything could have helped.......no one was going to convict him

it's crazy that some of those other drivers didn't come forward or the prosecution didn't search for them to corroborate Jill's story!

I was staying at the Luxe Hotel in LA in 1999. I was in town for business with the hotel, and brought a colleague. We were at the front desk when I heard a very distinctive voice coming through the lobby. I told my friend to slowly look to her right, as the voice I recognized was OJ. It’s so interesting the discussion at 5:22 about his voice. I had a similar experience. I had followed the trial closely, and read several books, and had a lot of interest. The headlines in the news was that OJ was kicked out of a rental and temporarily living in a, “tourist hotel, off of a very busy LA freeway.” So, I knew it was him immediately. My friend wanted me to take a photo with him, and I refused. We were bickering a bit about it, and the person behind the desk alluded that OJ would LOVE to have his photo taken, due to his enormous ego. My friend and I still talk about that incident and the fact that we have no photo to prove it. But, that voice I can still hear, all these years later, bellowing in the hotel lobby.

Imagine if she filed a police report or actually wrecked with OJ 🚗! OJ still would have been acquitted!

Yall need to get Marcia on asap. And Kato your an awesome dude. Humble no bs.

When Marcia was scolding you for "Ruining her case", someone needed to tell her, "You may think she will ruin YOUR case, but you will ruin THE CASE Marcia, if you don't put her on the stand."

I loved the chauffeur that heard the Bronco pull up. The defense tried to discredit him by saying "Oh, could you identify the sound of such and such a car"? The chauffeur said "what year" ? He was a mechanic and new what engines sound like.

Hey guys so for context: she wasnt taken off the case because she sold her story. According to multiple reports, she was removed because she lost a case SCAMMING a man and the court records were found once the man called the DA office. She took $6,000 from a man for a screenplay she didnt write lol. The screenplay was a major movie studio film and she happened to get a copy and then scammed a man over several months while saying she was the screenwriter lmao. She then told the man she needed $6,000 and he paid it and she disappeared. He then found out the script had BEEN sold to a studio prior and was in production with actors and directors and the real screenwriter. A real movie! He sued her and won. There is also NO record of her calling 911 that night. However she did call once his bronco with the license plate was all over the news. In fact, allegedly she was seen at OJ’s estate with a crowd of people that next day when she got off work at 2pm & the car was towed in front of them. The murders happened June 12th but she claimed in other interviews that she called that night, 7am the next morning, etc etc. If OJ’s license plate was given the NIGHT of the murder as a potential drunk driver- why was this NEVER brought up! There would be a record of it and it wouldve helped! The only time that authorities agreed she called was June 15th. She THEN calls. The DA interview her several times and then she sells her story to Hard Copy when anyone with common sense knows they wouldnt sell a story if they were a potential witness. She also tries to hide the transaction before the show actually aired. So imagine the DA watching her on tv after interviewing her as a potential witness. Her episode aired after she had testified to the grand jury but yet she KNEW she had already filmed the interview and received the money!! Once she was shown on Hard Copy, Marcia and the DA call her to office to admonish her and then the guy who won the case against her calls the DA and leaves multiple voice messages telling them that she is a known con artist. According to reports, she succeeded in getting $5,000 for the story. According to reports, She also received $2600 for the print edition of her story in Star magazine. She negotiated and received these funds AFTER interviewing with the DA and just BEFORE taking the stand to testify in front of the grand jury. Somehow it mustve slipped her mind to tell Marcia & the DA about her filming a fuckin interview and getting paid for it when she met them to go over details before she took the stand. Lol. Yet here she says she didnt get any money but $2500 that she used to retain a lawyer against Marcia. She actually SAYS this here in this interview and its a straightup lie. According to multiple reports, She received $7600 in 1994. Which is equivalent to like double in today’s standards. A good con, right? Marcia said many times that she was taken off because of the court case that the woman had lost and of course the dream team of lawyers would’ve completely shredded her on the stand during cross examination. Her receiving the money only PROVED what the man was saying about her. The woman scammed a man and said she was a screenwriter and LOST! She is lying by saying they never found anything on her on a background check. Thats a lie. The DA also expressly told anyone as potential witnesses about even TALKING to the media much less SELLING a story. U can google all of this.

Crazy how Marsha Clark was able to single handedly save OJ Simpson.

If there would have been a car accident… the case would have been closed

Kato and Jill look like twins at first glance.

Clark and Darden effed this up.

I cannot fathom a prosecutor saying to someone who has such valuable information,"Im going to make an example of you!." Wtf? Is she trying to win the case and prove the case or not. Apparently making an example out of Jill (who did nothing wrong by the way) was more important than putting credible persuasive evidence on. Marcia Clark comes across as a tyrant and as a tyrant who unfortunately blew that case although who knows if the jury ever would have voted to convict regardless of how strong the evidence was.

What a great interview!! Thank you for sharing Jill's experience with us all!

If it wasnt for the OJ Simpson Murder Trial, we wouldn't have the Kardashian's.

I can't believe these two look alike lol

I think OJ got rid of some items in the trash at the airport

With Jill getting that license plate number proves that OJ was lieing about being in bed asleep at about 10 30 pm as she said she saw him and herd his voice

I watched the entire trial and I think that Kato was absolutely terrified of what OJ would do to him if he was not convicted. And, I think he had a right to be terrified especially when OJ got off!

Aside from OJ. The next villain in this whole saga is the jurors. The more I learn about this case, the more I'm just disgusted them.

Marsha blew it. Kato has grown into a fine, fine man. Jill is genuine.

Not bringing Jill Shively as a witness was a huge mistake by Marcia Clark. The worst that could happen is that she’s discredited in the eyes of the jury. Which is equivalent to not bringing her as a witness at all. Except there’s a chance it increases the prosecution’s credibility. They could have also sourced the recording from the police station of her reporting OJ before the media broadcasted that a murder associated with OJ had taken place.

Just curious as to why the other drivers were not interviewed.

Bring on Marcia Clark. She will have a different story regarding Jill.

So awesome to see Kato and Jill together sitting side by side. It's surreal . Wow..

Great show, Jill is so great, Keto too!!! Appreciate the show....!!!

So sorry to both of your guests for what they had to go through. I have not seen Jill before but Kato has always seemed very kind and genuine. Wish them both many blessings in the future. ❤😊

She said there were other cars I wonder why nobody else came forward. This is so fascinating. I hung on to every word . I'm with Kato it just doesn't make sense why they never used her . I always kind of wondered if Marcia wasn't threatened to keep her mouth shut through this somehow.

Anybody else notice she said she recognized him as a football player and then a few minutes later said she recognized him as the guy from top gun? Kinda sus…I think OJ is guilty but I also don’t believe this woman

Please have Alan Park as a guest!! Love your show!! ❤

Marcia has said that she was going through a tough divorce at the time and it sure seemed like the stress of that and the trial got to her. It really doesn’t matter though and Jill should not feel bad. The jury made up their minds before the trial that they would not find him guilty because of Rodney King. I agree that Jill did not make a mistake and Jill and Kato should be proud of their role in this. The people who should feel bad are the ones who knew he was guilty and looked the other way.

Jill is a sweetheart. And Kato is iconic. Wonderful interview!

This was an excellent interview. Both Kato and Miss Jill are so credible.

I was pregnant with my first child during this (she’s now 30) I couldn’t tear myself away from the whole thing. I gave him the benefit of the doubt until he decided to write that book

So sorry this women had to be abused!! Makes me so angry!

I always thought Kato was a stand up guy. Love this podcast!

These interviews are fantastic. The content. The interviewers... more professional than any talk show I have ever seen ever. Huge thumbs up.

I think kato is pretty cool actually, back in the 90s, he wasn’t given a chance to actually get to know his personality like in these videos. I got a whole new respect for the man

I believe OJ did it through and through BUT I do not believe she memorized the license plate of a car flying by her in the dark. She may have saw the Bronco but saying she still has the plate memorized from the night she saw it 30 years ago is a fabrication. She also changed her story few times. She reported him as a drunk driver; now she is saying she was going to report him. She originally said she memorized the plate; now she is saying she memorized most of it and wrote it down. Too many inconsistencies for witness testimony. She would have been impeached. Former cop and active attorney. Just my professional opinion.

I didn't get a chance to finish this episode last night, so I just restarted it a while ago..A jury member in an interview, said they never had any intentions on voting oj guilty .. SO Jill should not worry or think she blew it..Those goofy jurors to this day said they wouldn't change a thing even after everything OJ has said, revealed, & done even w/ all the jurors know today..So I hope Jill doesn't ever feel guilty again..HE WAS NEVER going to be found guilty.. but, he's doing time for his crime now 🔥

Jill Shively: Totally agree with the hosts: YOU DID NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKE. Seriously. You should be gratuitously compensated for all that you lost and went through. I am truly sorry for all that you suffered just for being a good citizen and telling the truth. Marcia Clark: THIS IS YOUR GREATEST FUMBLE IN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CRIMINAL CASES IN CALIIFORNIA/USA HISTORY. Your treatment of Jill is nothing less than a glaring commentary on your deplorable level of EQ. You should be ashamed of yourself, and in my opinion ... YOU should be held accountable for many of the damages inflicted on Ms. Shively.

Marcia blew the case!!

Very informative thank you both. Awesome show.

I would have liked to see Jill draw out a diagram of the incident, where each car was when it happened, etc.

Oh man this O.J. content is the best I've run into. Thank you, gentlemen❤ and JILL for her story.

Now that he's no longer a threat, people can speak. Imagine how terrifying it would be if he was president and you had spoken out as a citizen? Vote blue to keep society intact.

Thanks Tom & Kato

Thank you! Great 3 way interview/discussion.

Jmo: she sounds credible. If they had used her testimony it would have put him outside his house coming from Nicole’s house. The salad bar being shut down at a certain time those employees would be able to back that up. The guy in the grey car who oj yelled at did he ever come forward? Also Jill said oj was wearing a white shirt maybe a tshirt underneath his bloodsoaked clothes he took off before getting in the broncho? OJ had a deep distinctive voice easy to place as well. I believe her.

Im amazed that even then they didnt have any traffic cameras especially that it was an afluent community

Nicole's former condo is still there. The address was changed from 875 S. Bundy dr. to 879. The front has been completely redone with shrubs and the entrance where Nicole was found has been shifted a few feet over so that the entrance to the house looks completely different.

My guess to why Jill wasn´t used as a witness: Simply the fact that she recieved money for telling her story. I have no doubt that Jills story is 100% true, very credible and likeable person. But the defence team would have made a nuclear bomb out of her. Implying that she got paid to lie and her story was made up to make money. I´m sure Marcia Clark thought the same way and was furious she couldn´t use her as a witness. Jill was able to put OJ´s car almost at the crimescene even though OJ claimed he was at home sleeping. She would have been the one most important witness in the case. But the fact that she sold her story would´ve made her an easy target for the defence. Sad but true.

How come no other witnesses came forward saying they saw OJ that night at that intersection if he was yelling at other people? Just curious seems weird to me.

You two are great!! Kato, I’ve always watched you. I have learned so much more about Nicole’s case than I did watching the trial. Thank you guys!!💖

I believe her story, but did she really think who she saw that night might have been "Al Cowlings"? Who the hell knew who Al Cowlings was? He was never a star player. Most people learned of him because of the chase. Is this a psychological thing where she became aware of Cowlings because of the Bronco chase afterwards and is merely associating Cowlings with the event that night in hindsight? I think there's a psychological term for it, I just forgot what it's called. If she meant Marcus Allen then that's a bit more understandable as he was a bigger name than Cowlings.

When some people of the jury was asked many years later, one said 90% of the jury said that it was pay back from Rodney King. That juror included. That juror said enough

I remember the case well. There was another woman who saw the Bronco fleeing the scene, a Spanish-speaking lady. It’s sad to know that OJ got off simply as “pay back” for the Rodney King riots according to one of the jurors. I lived in LA during those riots. The Rodney King case didn’t start the riots but was part of a build-up to it. It really started because of an incident in Korea Town where a lady shot and killed a young black girl who the lady thought was trying to steal from the store… The lady, just like the cops in the Rodney King case, got off… That’s when all hell broke loose! Anyway, this case will always haunt me. I have a friend who worked for the LAPD at the time and happened to go to the morgue the night the 2 bodies were brought in… What she saw was horrific and traumatizing to her before she even knew who they were. I’ll just leave it at that. We all know full well OJ did it. It sickens me that Nicole was right when she said that he’d kill her and get away with it. Thank you for sharing this!

If true, where are the others involved in the near wreck? Don’t you think they would have corroborated with her story? Especially after that was public.

Why didn't the other people he yelled at come forward as well because they surely recognized him also...??

Hhhaww😭😭😭🤣😭"I bet she was driving a Peterbilt." nice delivery too Lololol

My parents & I were in LA on vacation at the time of the trial. We went everywhere. We had lunch at the MezzaLuna restaurant. We went to Niclole's & timed the drive to OJ's house, which is so funny that Kato mentioned people timing the drive bc we did that. We parked our car, as did many others, and walked around OJ's house. The funny thing is we saw other people doing the same thing going from one location to the other. We spoke with one couple who were from Sweden visiting the USA & they did exactly what we did.

Great content. Glad I found the podcast.

Jill said, she saw OJ around 10 : 40 pm or 10: 50 pm .. Kato, said he heard a knock around 10: 40 pm O J Simpson cannot be in two places at the same time.

That jury never would have found Simpson guilty no matter what the evidence showed. Simpson could have confessed and they would have disregarded it. Nine black women on jury believed everyhing the defense said and were deaf to everything else.

Love your show and enjoy Jill and all the fascinating interviews you're getting !!

The jury was not going to convict a black man in those times.

Firstly my condolences to Mrs. Jill Shively on her loss of her older sister to domestic violence . But how infuriating it truly is that a killer walked in spite of that unassailable mountain of evidence that there was against the murderer, Mr. O.J. Simpson . And THAT’S just the evidence that was admitted to trial . What a mountain of evidence has come out , post acquittal .

Kato was a stand ip guy during the trial and still is today !

I had heard that the prosecution was ignorant, but geez Louise, they had Jill’s eyewitness account and blew it, not to mention how they made poor Kato out to be a buffoon which is the furthest thing from the truth! Glad I found this channel! ❤️

Really liking this podcast! Excellent interviewing. Kato is an excellent interviewer too! He is a great listener, and is very empathetic. Tom is doing a great job too. I've never seen Jill speak about what she saw that night and this is incredibly damaging testimony to OJ. How ridiculous that Marcia Clark didn't put this testimony on for the simple reason that she took it to hard copy after she told the police! She should have been a little more respectful to her witnesses, both Jill and some of the police. She filtered out evidence before the jury could even see it instead of just putting everything on that was persuasive and letting the jury decide. I'm an attorney so i have plenty of thoughts as to how this should have been handled.lol

Wow! She's obviously speaking the truth. This is amazing. Please continue this series of interviewing witnesses. Limo driver up next.

For some reason I find it hard to believe this woman.

This lady was on another podcast and said she called the police and made the report the next morning. I want to believe her but that’s a big difference

Thanks for the video. That she made the report before anyone knew of the murders makes her whole story credible. If she hadn't said anything until after Simpson was a suspect, that would make her story a little less credible because she could have made up everything later in order to get money. That she established the paper trail ahead of anyone knowing makes her story completely credible. Marcia Clark just didn't have the right stuff to prosecute this case. Chris Darden wasn't any better. I wish Simpson's Bronco had hit a wall, a pole, or some other object that would have disabled the Bronco. That would have established everything before he could dispose of evidence. He would never have seen freedom again.

Thank you for this wonderful series! I feel we are finally learning truth!😂 Beautiful job! Thank you so very much!