Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed - and Why it Still Matters 

I was in a very similar situation myself

Guess who drafted the legislation in response to this that later was passed as the PATRIOT ACT?

@@LRRPFco52JB

@@LRRPFco52 oh it started wayyy before then lol

Especially with Poldo(TM)

How do you know? Is just a question.

@@elbello1975 various documentaries. Interview with film maker that made A Noble Lie. I'll look for a link hold please...

@@elbello1975 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iCCccCj_r1Y.html here is a good discussion on the topic.

@@blueunicornhere thank you Sr.

@Steven Faulds ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iCCccCj_r1Y.html among various sources. It's known.

Yes I’ve read about Yeakey there is no way his murder should’ve been called suicide

I have been telling people about officer Yeakey's murder for years . For once there is tangible evidence about a cover-up and the public has always ignored it.

Yeakey is another thread to this case which stinks to high heaven along with so many others including failure to search for the co-conspirators and the "disappearance" of the clearly documented evidence from many witnesses confirming that there were other bombs installed and ignited INSIDE the Building and so on and so forth.....

@@bubblegumrabbit1398 he gave his ex wife a vcr with a tape in it...she never watched it. An it went missing. Just 1 day before his "suicide". Sounds like she was in on it herself. Yeakey wanted an tried to go back to get one picture or video of something under the daycare. His first try FBI stopped him....did he ever get it? Well the VCR if it didnt go missing would tell. He was protecting people by not saying what he saw there. An he gave her the video an boom hes dead. Of obvious murder circumstances

Who did the missing leg beloong to?

Then you have Epsteins Death and the absolute sweeping of the truth under the rug and fake news dropping any interest in the truth

Dont forget the grass inside the handcuff wounds and stab wounds, consistent with someone being dragged after wounds were inflicted

Who?

@@williamarcher4460 Terrence Yeakey

No that is not true. They do not label people conspiracy theorist every time they questioned something. It is what they questioned and the way they questioned it and the alternative realities they suggest that get them labeled as conspiracy theorists,

Lol so a truck bomb outside on the street was the cure to hide all these “records”....... got it lol.

@@jayrodtracey3465 the truck bomb was the cover up bombs were planted in the building that should connect some dots for you if not dots never will be connected. Thats ok, some people never get it

wrong.

@@scratchersandslots2094 thank you. And the "White Water" Docs were not all kept there either. That said, Sgt Yeakey's murder is still a sore topic in OKC. Namely when brought up to the OKC police department and sheriff's departments. Only a few will speak about his death and fewer still are willing to speak about what they 'know' about his activities and theirs prior to and after his murder. I still think all roads lead to Junction City, KS. Witnesses who testified seeing multiple people other than McV in the "Dreamland Motel" in Junction City prior to the bombing, Implementation of the bomb(s) at Geary Lake. Coordinating resources; explosive knowledge and transporting material for a bomb, etc. Having served with and conferred with several Combat Engineers, having been posted at Ft. Riley during this period, and knowing the social climate in and around Junction City/Ft. Riley, makes me believe it is where unanswered questions can be discovered.

YES

He said “the original plan”. According to what he said, the plan evolved several times.

Andrew Campbell capitalized on the Oklahoma City Bombing It was well known by insiders that it was a CIA job for Bill Clinton - to destroy the FBI Investigation files on him - that he had Janet Reno transfer there! Put him on your #ShitList It's a shame there was no justice for the murder of the guard who "knew too much" and the CIA made sure that McVay Wouldn't really be executed. They set up a dishonest doctor to claim he was dead. All a coverup to make sure the ones who did bomb the Murrah bldg were covered since it was a CIA job. Robert Snodgres shared the facts and the insiders knew damn well who did it. Just like insiders know that Hillary Clinton and John McCain and their entourage of 125 people mass murdered and destroyed the WTC blogs, bombed the pentagon, murdered passengers by gasing them like Hitler. Ref you can copy. The blog is ad-free and not monitored. Robert Snogres www.publiusroots.com/2018/04/robert-snodgres.html?m=1

Yep

Mason is a bot. Screw US media. Trash.

Thank you for bringing this up. I did see an old video on RU-vid where Brigadier General Benton K. Partin explained this but it was taken down for some strange reason.

Also anfo is highly toxic and would have made the sight totally uninhabitable

Thank you! I always had doubt as to the narrative that was put fourth. It could have been a precurser to 9/11 another false flag carried out. the amount of the explosion needs to be reviewed by a bomb expert. Its sad most people call the truth a conspiracy theory all because they go with what they see in TV.

Is the General still around? I would like to see if he thinks we r at threat for another attack that we cannot count on our govt to protect us…we the people need to consider that we do not have the security we should that is obviously the case in all the bombs going off domestically… I as a citizen of this country refuse to see another attack…. I don’t like when attorney general says “not even the president is above the law” My reply is “No President is above God, and in this country we r one nation under God. God is determined to give the truth to the world and if necessary we call a constitutional convention and dissolve the federal govt…that is what the founding fathers left for us to keep the promised land…

@@robertbolar7055 Yes I watched it about a year ago. I'm not surprised it was censored. Can't have ppl knowing the truth.

Cindy there is nothing new about the Federal bureau of investigation not doing their jobs, same with police forces, look at the mass shooting in parkland Florida at the high school, that was much more a result of misfeasance and malfeasance by law enforcement then it was access to a firearm, same thing with the attacks of September 11th 2001, same thing with all kinds of incidents around the country, as long as they are allowed to avoid being held accountable it will continue that way, you must have counter influences against harmful behavior

Do they ever? Charlie Wilson, 9/11. There is a book called the terror timeline, it’s over 1000 pages but you will be horrified

@@julesjay424 there is a book titled Charlie Wilson's war. It is about getting shoulder fired missiles two people in Afghanistan so they could shoot down the Russian Hind helicopters. During the war in Vietnam the Russians had supplied enemy troops with shoulder-fired missiles to shoot down American helicopters. This so-called Charlie Wilson's war was retaliation against the Russians for doing that.

@@John-rt7ou I watched the movie before I knew there was a book,and was devastated. I haven’t been able to bring myself to read the book. Knew people in the first attack on the World Trade Center, and lost people very close in the second. The whole world seems to have gone to sh*t

@@julesjay424 I read the book and had no idea there was a movie. I knew about the attacks of September 11th 2001 beginning in 1997. I told people about it in detail over 4 years, up to and through the night of September 10th 2001. I told experienced people in law enforcement. They did not do a goddamn thing that I know of. At least the law require them to contact the local field office of the Federal bureau of investigation with that information. The FBI insisted they had not gotten any information whatsoever. When confronted about it on the phone the police department in Stuart Florida lost their permanent records in a snap when they found out what the call was about. People I had told in law enforcement face-to-face lost their memories. Not even the anonymous phone call to law enforcement in fort Pierce Florida the night of the tenth made it into local media. The whole goddamn thing was covered up. And that's not just some conspiracy theory dreamed up out of second-hand vicarious information. I was right there in the middle of it. I'm the one who made the calls. I am the one who told people about these attacks over and over again. Nobody can bulshit me as to the facts.

Andrea's Greek, look at what a single truck bomb did to the Marine corps barracks in Beirut Lebanon and the early 1980s. That was a substantial concrete building. The explosion completely obliterated and destroyed the entire building had killed more than 250 people or 248 or something like that. Clearly McVeigh knew what he was doing when he constructed the bomb.

everyone at the ATF knew to take the day off that day

@@enduranceelite you people are living in a dream state fiction of reality. Leave it to brainwashed Americans to see something with their own eyes, and then insist it is not so. Poor brainless sightless senseless sots, if you read about how he made that device you would know something. It was not only fertilizer and fuel. There was a large quantity of high explosives added into the mix. You are like those idiot conspiracy theorists, they see airplanes crashing into the world trade center. They see the buildings explode and later crashed to Earth, and they insist airplanes could not have caused the destruction. I have always suspected that many Americans are insane. Now I know.

@@enduranceelite there was an agent that was fired for saying there was evidence of a cover up it was on A&E he works as a private investigator for an attorney in Austin Tx

@@cdiddy4561 well I guess so. After awhile I would imagine people would get sick and tired of dealing with this gross stupidity. I mean sure you should question what the government tells you. They are a bunch of goddamn liars. But when the truth and the facts are right there in front of your eyes are you still must create alternative realities to explain it, that gets old very quickly. Yes there have been cover-ups. There were cover-ups about the attacks of September 11th 2001. This I know for an unquestionable tangible fact. I know because I was involved in it. But they are not the kind of cover-ups you might think they are. They are not at the level you might need to believe.

Cha nin this entire system is screwed up beyond belief. Nobody seems to notice it or care about it until the roof is caving down on their own heads and then it is too late.

Maybe the same reason I refused to go to a peaceful demonstration in Sanaa Yemen. I knew it would turn out badly despite what else I had been told. I did not go. Snipers showed up and shot dead about 50 people and wounded approximately 300. Maybe the owner was not there for the same reason I did not position myself to the front of a train in Ireland. I was aware they were supposed to derail it and that much mutilation and death would occur. I sent as far to the rear as possible with my back to the direction of travel. They did actually derail it. 18 people were killed many of whom were slaughtered. Sixty-five or seventy were injured many horrifically mutilated. Obviously I survived not by chance or luck but by knowing what was going to happen and preparing for it. You have no idea how corrupt and criminal your government and military really are. They are power crazy maniacs and mass murderers of women and children.

@@John-rt7ou I do and obviously was being cynical!

@@chanin12 the problem with all this to-do about these events that happened is this. They are always centered around elite people or events that tended to make big news. People theorize about this and that, one thing and another, and they go on about it endlessly for years. Now you take a person such as myself. Definitely not among the elite. Definitely not a maker of headline News. However, I have been involved in things that did make world news, I was involved in ways in a very personal nature, for some examples. I really did know about the attacks of September 11th 2001 in detail beginning in 1997. I know without any question whatsoever in a very real and a tangible way, there were cover-ups involving that. This is something I know for a fact. It is not just my opinion based on vicarious information from somewhere else. I have mentioned that several times online. Nobody seems interested in that. Why is that so. The derailment of a train in Ireland that killed 18 people and injured 70. They said it was an accident. Their explanation for it is thin soup. I happen to know without any question whatsoever there were many explicit detailed felony terrorist threats before that. It could not have been simply an accident. This I know for a first-hand and not from any kind of secondhand information from others. I have mentioned this several times on the internet. Nobody seems to show any interest or care about it. My analysis is this. People just like to get off emotionally somehow theorizing about the elites and big events that make the news. It gives them some kind of vicarious control and their own minds over what happens. It gives them some kind of control over what happened. At least in their own minds. At the same time they know they will never be called upon to actually do anything about it. When they come across information like mine there is the possibility that they might actually be called upon to do something. They do not want to do anything. They just want to theorize. it makes them think they are part of a special group with inside knowledge that the rest of the people simply cannot understand. Most of it is bullshit. When they get information of something that is absolutely unquestionably real when it comes to conspiracies and plots and cover-ups, no answers and no participation and no interest. So what is the point of discussing long-gone theories about things that nobody can prove one way or the other about events over which absolutely nobody has any control? The fact is these people do not give a damn one way or another. They're just blowing off hot steam. I mean what if there was some big conspiracy involving the Kennedy assassination and what happened in Oklahoma City. What does it matter. They cannot do anything about it. At least I know for sure people who were involved in cover-ups and conspiracy involving some mass murders. I'm sure all of those people are still alive. That's something about which something can be done and should be. But nobody wants to involve in that. You want to know why nobody wants to involve. It's because it is real and it is in the here-and-now.

For the kids

#DoubleDown Oswald was a lone nut gunman too, didnt you know ?

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

@@SPIDERM0OSE George H. W. Bush was with the CIA there in Dallas.

@@KristinaTurnerAquarius They're a very shady lot.

The Turner Diaries.

That video was a lie

@@deoglemnaco7025 Okay Fed.

Don Juan - OF COURSE there is ! and from many sources not just a lone nutter - their testimony has been suppressed on this as in so many other aspects of this case

I believe it. I watched it all at school and then again when I got home. We watched it for days. They ran out of the building several times. But for pissing contests, we might know the truth. I doubt we ever know the truth.

There is footage of 2 bombs being removed from the building not long after the blast. Shows the vehicle that the bomb squad use to take the devices away from where public are to defuse or detonate. In the first hour it was clearly stated by media and witnesses. I've only just realised that the FBI have taken this detail out, unbelievable. Corrupt fucks. Bit too much of a coincidence too that no FBI agent was required to go to the office on that particular morning. Bit like some high up people on 9/11 were told to stay away the day before

@@benjamindover4337 that’s a lie

This was the 9/11 pregame/rehearsal. And a money trail to go along with it. Crazy.

Douglas stags it is easy to imagine that would shake your bones and rattle your cage. I was in a mass human slaughter after 6 months of explicit detail felony terrorist threats. The terrorist people who made the threats were protected from arrest and the prosecution. That was one reason I did not report what Timothy McVeigh told me in Stuart Florida in 1994.

Did you ejaculate?

Christopher wait until I write mine. Heads are going to spin as to why a 20 run was given to most members of the Army of God except for poor old Rudolph, but maybe Mel Brooks is still alive and will want to do his spoof on this because of the FBI’s failure to apprehend the second truck bomb sent from Murphy, North Carolina to Mobile, Alabama driven by Matt McRae and Eric Rudolph January 28, 1998 and upon their arrival that morning watching the FBI loading up to head to Murphy to hunt for Eric is really comical you ask me because Matt put Eric out on I-65 to hitchhike back because he didn’t want Eric seen in that truck bomb as it made its way back to Murphy and to the back door of my office can be hilarious to some viewers of Mel’s audiences over Electrolux and it being next door to Radio Shack owned by the McRaes if done right can have audience laughing like the crowd booing the feds coming in after the feds were told by me the truck bomb was heading up 74 while it was escorted by state patrol up 64 North. Even the real story is somewhat comical because it’s the biggest embarrassment in the history of the FBI.

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

@@charlescherokeega Eric Rudolph was also Army Psychological Operations and responsible for the Atlanta Olympics bombing.

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

GUESS WORK?? We have come to the day and age where people write find publishing for books based on guess work. Then go out into the community and conduct hour long seminars based on their perceived views based on guess work to promote a book??? Who actually shows up to a book review openly based on guess work and prior known evidence. LOST TRUTH IN AMERICA !!!

@@dougjstl1 I heard or saw a post from an insider that said 'We had to do Oklahoma to cover up Hillary's mess. Remember this bombing occurred durring the OJ Simpson Trial. I wonder did the Murrel Building which holds the FBI did they have information about the Clintons and them being involved in White Supremist Groups who were used to trafficked drugs and other illegal things. They could have used the bombing to get out files the FBi had on them. Remember Cochran represented the victims. How did he get the case? Did Johnny get heads up about this event?

@@brownbetty3546 OMG. As someone who has researched this crap investigation for years, you are seriously reaching to bring Hillary into something. Come on. 🙄

@@YellowRubberDuckie actually, I read that the whitewater investigation was ready to bring indictments to Bill and Hillary Clinton in Federal Court. The documentation paperwork was being stored, temporarily at the Alfred P. Murrah Building.

What would you say?

another false flag

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GLy4u8Ea50E.html

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

Yet McV didn't realize he had no car tags before driving away from OKC? To be clear, I don't think McV was alone, but I do believe he was gullible in the extreme. Patsy? Maybe, mastermind, hardly. I served with his Desert Storm commanding officer, who incidentally lost his two nephews in the OKC bombing. His opinion of McV was different from what most people think. He was competent as a soldier, but personally, he was considered a wanna-be clown. Not quite an outcast but a self-imposed loner who delighted in being a bully to his less-than-white subordinates. For some reason, in my experience, Ft. Riley seems to have a lot of these types. Even by some miracle McV had passed the Q-Course, he would have never passed the prerequisite psych profile screening and be excepted into SF. Not to mention garnered 'positive' background checks, namely from his previous commands. If he had been sponsored to infiltrate the WP movement by the government, his training and ethics should have informed him something wasn't right long before the bombing took place.

@@charleslennonbaker That's a valuable comment and I thank you for it. Not sure what you mean by "something wasn't right"...Many criminals have been caught through making one simple mistake - I accept that - but in this case, forgetting the plate change was unbelievably dumb and I am deeply suspicious of that. Cheers, Man !

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

Samuel Cohen,inventor of nuetron bomb explained it would be impossible for a truck bomb,no matter how much material used,to cause the damage,that the detonaters placed at columns is what did it.How this has been kept from america at large is beyond alarming.

MSM GLOBAL NARRATIVE PSYOPS

@@truthfreezeJIL it's not been talked about (or in your fanatical raving, "kept from America...") because it NEVER HAPPENED! DUH! Just like the only people responsible for the attacks in NYC & DC on Sept 11, 2001 were muslim extremists run by al-Qaeda. BTW, those ultra-conservative/reactionary muslim fanatic bands of terrorists are just as fucked up as worthless right-wing, neofascist groups who pretend they're "christian".

@Art Hephner actually he does in the book, kinda. He also devotes quite some time debunking the alternate theories in the book. He's quite wrong on many takes, but here's what I know. On the morning of the bombing, I was stationed at Ft. Riley. A close relative of mine was on jury duty in a federal trial in the Tulsa Federal Building. For hours (remember this is before the internet and social media) I tried in vain to find out where the bombing occurred. By the time I found out where the bombing took place and contacted my relative I became satisfied everything was 'ok', from my end. Now, within six hours after the first bomb went off agents were jumping out of the trees within my battalion and ONLY my battalion at Ft. Riley. The entire battalion was on 'lockdown'. The entrances, exits, barracks, the headquarters for the battalion was restricted phone lines were 'cut', we could not use the latrine without permission. The reason for the lockdown by the FBI/ATF/DEA/CID and conveyed to us by the command was that they were 'searching and interviewing' possible witnesses [bombing confederates]. Apparently, a soldier from my battalion had just left Oklahoma City early that morning and had just arrived back into the battalion later that afternoon. He was on a three or four-day pass. I would later find out he was 'officially' the only soldier on the entire post that was in OKC within a 72-hour timeframe prior to and after the bombing. I know for a fact there was at least one more soldier (in our battalion) in Oklahoma if not OKC during that timeframe. The reason the first soldier who had gotten the pass and for being OKC was to propose to his girlfriend. After some time he was taken from the battalion with a horde of G-men in tow and taken to MP battalion. He was cleared, but a stigma hung over his head for quite some time. We were in a frontline combat-arms unit, and a lot of guys made some rather stupid threats to this soldier, not too long after he was cleared he quietly left the unit. It didn't help that he looked just like Suspect #2 that supposedly never existed. Okay, I personally knew three Okies within our battalion, not including myself but none of us were ever questioned, even to this day*. Remember I had been making multiple phone calls (more than fifty) that morning, to a host Oklahoma news agencies, Oklahoma Law Enforcement, and the [military] Red Cross trying to locate my relative. I also know of at least one person within our battalion who had possible federal criminal charges pending but was never questioned. Now you may be wondering why the DEA of all the agencies would be at the battalion, not to mention involved in the investigation? Well, the black market was 'in deep' at Ft. Riley and Junction City, Kansas back then. Of all the things that were the most coveted by the black market, it was NVGs or night-vision equipment. Years later I found out the old LAWS and Viper anti-tank rocket launchers were the second most coveted items by the black market. Then came Composition #4 or 'C4' from Claremore Mines, and M-16 assault rifles rounding out the list. Surprisingly grenade launcher was not sought after because the ammo [grenades] for the launchers were too hard to come by. The NVGs were being used by drug smugglers for flying night drops. The rocket launchers for armored car [bank] assaults and the rocket's ordnance and the C4 in the mines could also be dismantled for their explosives, for use in other applications. The selective-fire assault weapons need not be explained. One of the "WTF!" omissions in this interview is TMcV's CO during Desert Shield/Storm when he was stationed with 2/16 Infantry is not talked about. That the 2/16 CO that put in for TMcV to get his Star was in my battalion at the time of the bombing. That CO lost his two nephews in the bombing. As for TMcV's racial bigotry during his tours of duty, 1ST ID 2/16 Infantry was notoriously bad when it came to racial strife back in the 1980s-1990s. It wasn't just in that brigade either, Fort Riley has had a long history of "Undercover KKKluckers" within the command structure and lower ranks. My battalion alone had several incidents were Nazi/White Power types would proudly display their feelings for all to see. The command either condoned this behavior or was afraid (rightfully so) to not intervene unless civilian authorities got involved. But in the last few months, I discovered something strange. It came by the way of a little known but incredibly frightening investigation. Israel Keyes, look him up. Keyes was raised in the same community as the Keyholes brothers (they trained Keyes on how to rob banks) but Keyes would later leave the White Power movement out of discussed. Keyes would later hook-up with a Native American/African-American woman and father a child with her. But that's not the whole story. If this doesn't give you pause know this; after Keyes confessed to the FBI (you can see his interviews on RU-vid) of multiple rapes/torture/necrophilia/murders and bank robberies the FBI sealed his criminal files, all 45,000 pages on the ground of national security! Does anyone know of or ever heard of a serial killer's criminal files ever being sealed for national security?! Although Keyes killed himself waiting trial only a few hundred of his redacted files have been released to the press. Something to think about.

​@Art HephnerHephner thank you, just doing my job.

The WTC bombing seems to have been a zionist hit on America and of course a Muslim was blamed.

He was arrested for the bombing by the feds two day later, just prior to being released following arraignment on the state gun charge.

He was pulled over for driving without a license plate and subsequently arrested for having a concealed weapon about 90 minutes after the bombing. He was arrested for the bombing two days later, while still in custody over the earlier incident.

Andrew’s words were “he was taken into federal custody two days later” that’s correct, although I do believe it was 72 hours he had spent in El Reno before being taken into federal custody (that’s from my own reading books about the case) whereas, McVeigh was taken into STATE custody on the same day of the bombing, which is what you are thinking of.

I recently heard that Timothy was just the Driver. If the cop hadn’t stopped him then who would know that ?

This whole system needs to be shutdown. McVeigh wanted to go back to the American life in the 1830s-1840s. He wanted a gun slinging America free from tax and material conditions. I agreed with McVeigh on a few of his points made… nonetheless, McVeigh was an Oswald of convenience for the order. He was also a hypocrite… he became the dragon he claimed he wanted to slay. Regardless of wether he knew it or not, he ended up becoming a dictating aristocrat himself.

There are some who speculate that he was a part of the BND (German intelligence) investigation into US neo-Nazi movements that were spawning offshoots in Germany.

@Steven Faulds that’s what I read wasn’t he only given ten years

@Steven Faulds I’m going to drive there and ask the lady at the front desk. I don’t trust the internet

He's out?!?

@@G123. yeah like three years ago

@@G123. no he’s not

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

It’s my belief that Jason tried to kill Tim first and what happened after that was self-defense.

@@deoglemnaco7025 … he was a baby.

@@Jezzyzeggs not quite, mister.

@@deoglemnaco7025 Jason Nichols was inside a crib when his body was found… I’m not sure where your confusion is coming from. Jason Nichols was quite literally a baby

@@Jezzyzeggs moreso a toddler at that point. Toddlers can be trained to kill. The only question is who trained the toddler? Likely we will never know.

The kids though that’s unforgivable

so then what is the truth. it was the same as the bombing in beriut Lebanon Khobar Towers 1996. tim mcveigh was set up by the FBI and CIA. To get rid of the Clinton records.

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

Kenneth Gow of Whittier, California, with over one-half century of engineering experience in the aerospace industry, writes in his evaluation of the EBES: “The Eglin Test Structure report ... further reinforces the conclusion that a substantial portion of the Murrah Building damage was by internal explosions.” The full EBES report is available for $25.00 postpaid from The New American, P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913.

Oh there not going to tell you what is lies.. I mean with proof. Don’t be silly he’s just talking out of his ass. Not all but most civilians do.

@@dougjstl1 there was eyewitness testimony by a woman who worked in the building, that there men in the lower portions of the parking deck putting up what she thought was some kind of clay, and telephone cable around the circumference of the structural columns. Also, there was the accidental reporting on the discovery of other bombs/explosives after the Ryder truck detonated.

Led by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin (USAF, ret.), former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world’s premier explosives and ordnance authorities, critics have argued compellingly that the blast wave from the ANFO truck bomb was totally inadequate to cause the collapse of the massive, steel-reinforced concrete columns of the federal building in Oklahoma City. This fact, together with much other forensic evidence from the crime scene, they contend, points inescapably to the conclusion that additional demolition charges had to have been placed on columns inside the building. Which means that this terror bombing was a much more sophisticated operation than the federal authorities admit, requiring more hands, brains, and brawn than any lone bomber could supply. If that is true, the other bombers are being let off the hook by the government’s insistence that Timothy McVeigh was the sole efficient cause and the truck bomb was the instrumental cause of “the deadliest terrorist attack on American soil.”

He never went to a fertiliser company to get it. He bought it from a racing car track in Topeka, Kansas. The dude who sold it to him thought it was suspicious that McVeigh bought so much, but he didn’t ask any questions. The race car track attendant ended up testifying at the state trial.

Do you believe the official story?

@@Dellen-Roger I'm not sure I know what the official story is.

@@Dellen-Roger he insisted they were going to do it. It looks like he did it. That's all I need to know. As for official stories or however else they name the way they want to describe what happened, I do not know.

@@Melinda_Ross all I know is what I know, I also had a conversation with a man who told me his name was Khalid, that was the middle of June 1983 in North Africa, the subject of the conversation or the subject of part of the conversation was using commandeered fuel laden aircraft to attack tall buildings in the United States. He identified another there as Osama, Khalid seemed to like the idea of that kind of attack, it looks like they finally went ahead and did it, I have no further theories about anything like that, it matters not to me what Ted Gunderson said, I only go by what I know,

@Jo Black I rarely ate a donut if ever. I still do not eat donuts. I like donuts but I cannot handle the sugar.

Ol Andy is connected 😉

Yes lol

No, but informants did provide advanced knowledge to BATF and FBI.

Read “Deadly Secrets” by David Hammer. He was in Terre Haute with McVeigh and ended up writing a book about McVeigh confirming that he was assigned by military to carry out the bombing. Hammer goes into a lot of depth about what McVeigh told him in Terre haute. McVeigh also wrote a letter to his sister telling her that he was an undercover operative who was involved in a military operation to carry out missions for the republic.

You are you trying to throw sugar on a very large cake of misinformation. We know that Timothy McVeigh was working for Maduro, Iran, and Hamas. Oh, and Hezbollah. McVeigh was actually born in Lebanon and hated the US’s freedom, or something like that.

Watch a documentary on youtube called "A Noble Lie Oklahoma City 1995". All you need to know.

Popeye, Bluto, Olive Oyl, Whimpy, Pappy, Swee' Pea

It was a huge government building with more than just law enforcement offices. A lot of those government workers have kids. It’s not really that weird.

Yes. As Steven Jones put it in McVeighs federal trial, “no one has two left feet except when dancing.”

*Tim McVeigh👹*

They purposely "missed" all the signs. It wasn't incompetence.

Kitty Eric Rudolph was pissed because they did not have enough time to plant more devices in the building.

The first set were shape charges used for taking out key structure points.