That is how a true gangster identify himself. You have to be educated in your trade, if not, you be in prison wanting Your mommy to come and see what came out of her womb.
Thats true of not just criminals but the general public... so many people who have served their time and gone through rehabilitation no matter the crime are rarely given a chance to reintegrate back into society they are vilified and destroyed socially. Makes me wonder that if we're just going to drive these people to suicide (which happens a lot for people who leave prison) then why did we get rid of capital punishment in the first place? (UK)
@@darylmckenna41 it fills you with more and more hate for the law and the people around you, until it eventually overwhelms you and provokes you to commit crime again
lord good a revolving door is the type of door that kind of goes around serving as both an entrance and an exit. One can just keep on pushing the door and it’ll keep on going around. Comparing prison to a revolving door shows how it’s so hard to actually leave the system you feel like you just keep on going around leaving and going back into prison
I'm not sure how it is in the UK but in the USA I've had friends go in for nothing and they end up going back and then back and back again. It's fucked up how a friend of mine went in for an minor in position and got involved in a gang while he did a few weeks. Beat the shit out of a kiddie diddler got put in for 2 years for that assault now because he can't pay court fines because no one wants to hire a felon so he's going back for being poor essentially. It's pretty fucked up. He got caught with 3 beers in a back pack now he's spent the past 12 years in and out of the system. It's fucked up.
@@misfitramone it's an absolute trap. The way out of the loop is so difficult, frustrating and filled with pitfalls it seems like it isn't worth it. The most malicious part is that our system knows that non violent/non sexual offenders are usually products of imposed inequality and can be rehabilitated. But the system feeds on them now.
It’s only natural for a person that’s filled with pain and hate, to feel as if their on the top of the world when they have the power to change it. This is why power in the wrong hands can spiral down into all sorts of violence. I mean, look George Soros. The guy stated that his character was made when he spent his time in Auschwitz, and the guy’s a BILLIONAIRE. That’s kinda scary.
@@misfitramone His accent reminds me of the dude that always had his son with him and the Desert Eagle .50 ... The movie was either Snatch or Lock Stock, it's been so long I can't remember which lol. You read my mind though, he's a typical Guy Ritchie character for sure
There’s a difference between a the thieves and the mafia the mafia has a level of honor but it’s not a good honor and it comes with high prices as for thieves they will betray each other for a lesser sentence.
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yes, I think a lot of criminals have good in their hearts they are just very poor or desperate. Like in very poor areas, if a dad cannot find a job and is very poor, and if they have kids and need to provide for them some parents will do anything for them. Sometimes its a drug addiction and their not bad people but rather they are so addicted they need more money for the drug and they are so desperate. My cousin is in prison for burglary he would have a gun when he broke into a house, but never would have the gun be loaded cause he never wanted to hurt anyone, he just wanted items to sell for money to get him drugs which he had been addicted for 20 years so im not trying to defend his actions. Yeah he's a good person in heart just drugs made do bad things
@@mattycosta9074 all dealers bash their shit or else there’d be no prof even guys shotting kilos are putting a lil bash to it. Like turning 2 🔑 into 2 n a half.
@@mattycosta9074 I agree, greed. Though saying that the prices for coke have gone sky high in this country since police smashed encroach at. Gone back from 35s a box to full 40s.
@igeto12 Once you've explained the cause of a problem, you still have that problem. OK, imperialism in recent decades is the cause of the current situation. Now what?
@Eric Miret I forgot to add. Importantly. The whole world was affected by Europe's colonial and industrial era that will have socio-economic impact (some good, most negative, of course) for decades or maybe even hundreds of years to come. The effects are ecological, cultural, sociological and therefore psychological, etc. Europe was and is great in some regards, but your life or education has clearly sheltered you from truly understanding the matter of how the West's growth aversely affected the majority of the globe. Syria included.
@Eric Miret What the fuck are you talking about? The grenades are coming in from old Yugoslavian military shit. Syrian immigrants have nothing to do with shootings and the grenades... it's a drug war that is raging in poor areas by people that have lived here their entire lives. In large parts it is happening because shitty neoliberal politics have driven what used to be poorer areas into real poverty stricken shitholes and the swedish police haven't been able to curb what used to be rowdy youth gangs that sold weed early on until they turned into real organised criminal enterprises. Syrians? Fucking kidding me... this is 100% a problem that has been ramping up since the the mid 00's. I was on the sidelines looking in when this shit started, had old friends who got started in this ugly shit when OG's like the biker gangs and yugoslavs offered to supply them with cocaine and ecstacy.
@Eric Miret Syrian immigration has probably increased petty crimes, yes. The other stuff is what I said, a drug war between organised criminals. If you want to pin it on immigrants, it's second generation immigrants like myself, not syrians. You're spouting political nonsense from SD. The real problems are societal, both the immigrant community itself and the swedish state has failed these areas. The slide to poverty of the immigrant working class is real and has been devastating these past 15-20 years.
"... go to prison for many years, get out, and what're you good for? You're good for what you did before you went to prison. Because prison teaches you nothing. " I jsut wanted to raw extra attention to that.
@@Yeezus20 Prison is not just a punishing measure. Prisons are supposed to rehabilitate people. Though, in reality, these institutions do break prisoners even more.
Prisons are seen more as a punishment to criminals than to be rehabilitating them. (I learned way more about this watching Orange is the New Black). It also stems from the prison reform and war on drugs in the 90's where it had become a staple of punishment even more into the more modern era. Kevin Hart when talking about his uncle getting out of prison, that when you get out from being in prison, your mind is in prison mode. What you think is that prison mindset so when we have people comig out with that mindset being punishment instead of rehabilitation. Its hard. It also doesnt help that the legal system had been made so unfair that former president Barack Obama had been known to find people and give pardons to them for reasons that shouldve been fixed. More effort needs to be placed in our criminal justice system and prison rehabilitation
THIS is moug me duro If it were possible to prevent criminals from offending again after they leave prison (thereby reducing overall crime rates), wouldn’t you want prisons to be taking that approach? Or do you just not care about reducing crime rates? “That’s just common sense and fundamental logic.” No, that’s your personal opinion. Try not to mistake the two.
That young lad seems really articulate and intelligent, the part where he was talking about being worried about failure so he didn't turn up to school. I felt that
schools really need to change how they approach their students. Currently grades are sold as the main definer of your future and your value as a human being, like getting the right answer is what makes you worth something at all. Kids need to know they're valuable no matter what. And in terms of how human beings learn things, getting the wrong answer and failing is the best way to learn, because you tried. Your brain just learned how to hunt for the answer, and where it should be stored. Try, get the answer wrong or right, get a confirmation on what the answer actually was, rinse and repeat. I wish teachers opened every class with a "let's fail, it's a great way to learn! If you get it wrong, good job!"
Anglo Commando haha btw, are you one of thoose people who think a nerd is just a fat guy playing video games all day? Well if so you are very wrong my friend.
You steal the money You spend it You get cought You go to prison "You spend a few years You come out empty Same situation as before Because the prison teaches you nothing" This right here is a truth
As a prison officer, I can't even emphasise just how much credit people deserve when they turn their life around. Anyone can fall into the wrong crowd, but to get out of it takes a strong person. We all make mistakes, it's about how we grow and learn from them.
That young boy talking about lack of parenting, youth clubs, the blame within social media, lack of police force - he’s a wise young man that’s looked at this from a number of perspectives.
I personally believe that how a person turns out is down to how they are brought up and what their surroundings are like. Social media plays a big part in it too. Nobody is born a criminal.
@@beefcake1876 Totally agree, my past isnt 100% perfect and I even got bullied, but it didnt lead me to a path of crime, I always said dont do to others what you dont want to be done to you, plus, the moment you do 1 crime, you can be blackmailed for life.
I know a guy who is really good with numbers, working at a company now that sources products for various businesses. We play DnD and other tabletop games and he'll find ways to game the economy or create trade routes, negotiate deals and whatnot. Hell a joke we make all the time is that he will inevitably find a way to circumvent all power you have, he's incredibly smart. I wonder what would happen if he ended up in that world.
@@janbroekhuizen5 well, these two guys are not dutch they are english, where the life sentence is 25 years. Flexing how bad your prisoners or your prison system is, is kinda irrelevant
2:58 "To go prison for many years and when you come out, what are you good for? You're good for doing what you done before you went to prison because prison teaches you nothing." That's fire.
That's cos prison doesn't give people an education and ways to move on from being a criminal. He said about how "lay on bed watching telly" You won't even get hired if you have a criminal record and many dont even have good GCSEs grades or none at all. More money needs to be put into that and changing the stigma about ex cons.
Also goes to show who is a dedicated criminal, and who did it just because it was an easy choice. Selling drugs and getting quick cash is bang-bang-bang life moves fast easy money. The old timer chose it as an active lifestyle and dedicated himself to being a criminal. I don't respect any of them for their choices, but for whatever it's worth, I have even less respect for the young guy who most of all just seemed to take the easy route because it was easier than living a decent life. Good for them and for society that they have been able to turn back from those paths, at least to a degree.
@@Real_MisterSir honestly it should be the other way round. its never an "easy way out" if youre a criminal. they struggle to find a job, get an education, are probably from a poor family, and already written off by most of the people around them. they have nothing to lose and become criminal. i dont respect any of their choices, but i see it as less sinister to do it out of the necessity of having money, rather than the thrill they get when robbing a bank. and btw what youre seeing here is basically 2 identical people, but one is intelligent, the other is unintelligent. not in a moral, but in a scientific way. the old guy clearly has a high iq, and the young guy has a rather low iq. thats why their stories sound so different, but in the end for both of them its the neglect of the society that made them criminal. they both felt they had nothing to lose and could never fit in.
@Beta but to be fair he probaboy has to lie because the police didnt arrest him for everything he did, but rather a small portion of what actually happened
@@thesmallestdaltonbrother2176 I can understand the mindset, don't get me wrong. But I know a lot of people who have scraped the bottom, and certainly for many of them a criminal life would be easier. yet they never swayed to that side, and in the end proved it doesn't have to be the only choice. I believe to many out-of-necessity criminals it has just as much to do with the people you surround yourself with from an early age, which influences your mind and what you see as common/uncommon. In your part about them being identical except one is intelligent and one is not, that's also the basis of my "less respect" for the less intelligent. One chose that lifestyle because it's who they are, the other did it because it was more convenient to them than whatever choices they otherwise had. And you always have a choice, most people just don't want to make those compromises like sacking your established social groups and friends who could be large contributing factors to why you end up in the situation you are in. In other words, one person is true to who they are, and the other just seems too weak to even figure out who they are. In the end both are criminals and I should serve whatever justice is deemed fitting.
Wow beautiful words. I'm Catholic and those words really touched me. However I'm guessing people of other faiths, including protestants , don't think highly of those words .
@@Dah42 Thats why you are catholic. This sentence is kind of describing the new testament. Its clear you didnt read the bible or you didnt understood it. This comes from a catholic-raised polish guy and you know we polish people take catholicism for real. I took it for real, too, till the day I finally read the bible and understood that catholicism is simply wrong and mostly unbiblical. For example commands the new testament the church leaders (pastors, etc.) to be married and forbids women to be the leaders in church. This example concludes clearly that catholicism and "modern protestants" are wrong. Theres no to ways about it. If you are literate and have the will to find the truth for yourself than read the bible!
@@Bruno-um6mz I'm sorry my friend. For the words of my brother here has said. A true Catholic is accepting and doesn't speak harshly or unfairly about another. I hope you have a good day my friend.
@@theconversation9103 that's doesn't seem like it's anything to do with attacking sex offenders unless she's a sex offender in Wich case she deserves it
@@S4R1N The man caused unspeakable mental damage to those he held up at gun point (as he points out in another video - it happened to his wife) and you want to high five him because he 'attacked sex offenders.'
Alex Gemi dont think he was being a smart alec, think he was just stating the fact he knew its a serious thing and not just a casual thing to have on you
@@GodsCosmicBollock I'm pretty sure that if you read TastyBrush's comment again, you'll see that he in fact never stated, that a killed person has a future.
I'll be darned. I wrote a research paper for one of my classes last year about the school system, education, and the prison system. Noel 'Razor' Smith, the gentleman on the left, was one of my sources since he was a living example of a criminal who turned his life around after reading some books and educating himself while serving his time. Funny how youtube recommended this to me. He's an interesting guy.
Jacob Morris Personnally i disagree when i was young I thought i hated learning neva did no work but now i go out of my way to study, I would go to uni but i have a family to feed
@@theshade3125 I wouldn't say that that's more accurate as opposed to just another point. You could like being taught but still not like school. A better and actually more accurate quote would be "I have never let schooling get in the way of my education"-Mark Twain
He isn’t anymore, he is a well established author and public speaker on criminology and learnt from his mistakes to teach others not to do the same. Certainly not a criminal
@@Bot-mf8gs I bet you've committed crimes as well. Only because you've once been a criminal doesn't mean you're not allowed to become anything else in your entire life
The bullying thing reminded me of my dad. He didn't carry a gun, but when he was a kid he spoke with a stutter. He was a highly intelligent kid, but when the other kids said something nasty or smart about him, he'd try to retort but he couldn't get the words out & they'd mock him worse. He learned to box, and he found that since he couldn't speak eloquently it was usually easier to just hit people, knock 'em out. When he went into the RAF he got on the boxing team at RAF Cosford, which used to be the RAF's athletics and sports centre. Luckily he learned a trade in the RAF, and he cured his stutter to the extent that he was able to represent himself in court for small claims cases, but he was always a fighter right up until he was old & decrepit, always ready to throw hands. I guess he was addicted to that violence - it was his go-to for most of his life.
That seems like an issue with whoever set up a meeting, I'm not going to make a video about gang violence and put a kid who thought they were cool and got caught at 13 for weed and a veteran sicario from a drug cartel and say it's a generational gap and how new criminals are nothing PS. I'm saying the video was click bait thought both would be the same type of criminal not a murderer and a drug delivery boy
"i was just probably scared to be like, if i dont get the result i like, im gonna look stupid, so might as well just be the class clown" man, that hits me so fucking hard.
@@yashwinning That was completely uncalled for. Were they suppose to list everything they saw in the video to satisfy you? They just pointed out one thing out of many and you had to assume?
@@woody1380 if you watched towards the end his messafe was "if we can stop one person from going down the road we went through, then thats a job well done." Everyone deserves a second chance.
You act like crime hasn't been glorified in movies anyway. Everything's been glorified in movies, drug addiction used to be glorified in movies, hating gays used to be glorified. Even to this day, the military is glorified. It just depends on the culture and what's considered important in that culture.
That young kid was really respectful and I feel he was just a product of his environment, in a different and better environment he wouldn't have gone down the crime route. There are some real chavvy guys who have come out of prison and would be knobs here but you can sense this kid as a good heart and he talked how he was happy to see his mom and nieces and nephews.
@@Colehallen if you were listening to the video you would have heard them say that they're working with kids to prevent them from going on the path of crime that's the sharing of wisdom I'm talking. about
jason id have to disagree, I got my ged in prison, got a bachelors, all while doin all the treatment classes my counselor made me do. They even had a grip of apprenticeships I’m there.
@@joeytapia2105 I mean it's a very situational thing then obviously. I'm not sure is it a personal thing or does it vary by prison, country, background etc.
Joey Tapia yeah but that bachelors is barely worth anything if you went to prison. No offense but if you’re from the US and were arrested, you’re pretty fucked.
I believe he contradicted himself when he said this because he talked about how he found education in prison. I believe what he meant is prison teaches you nothing unless you are willing to learn.
bessford In contrast, how is a monster born? Is it their upbringing or the society In which they grow up in? Can you really blame someone who’s never had anything other than pain and suffering? According to the justice system, yes. You can, for the rest of their life. Further adding to that pain by taking the one thing every man and woman wants; Freedom. Once that’s gone what do you have left?
@@KingConfusion the old nature vs nurture question, who knows? Can you really allow a person to create pain and suffering to others because they felt the same thing ?
these guys really warmed up to each other, i hope they went out for a drink afterwards. incredible to see how all of their differences only make them more similar
"I got done wif drugs an alcohol an got five years, ow bout you?" "I got done wif guns an ammo an explosives an nicked over 2.7mil in 35 years an got life for it" "oh"
$2.7m divided by 35 years the sum of that divided in half...about $35,000 per year. An honest job with the effort and planning would've netted more just with basic raises over the years. Stupid😄☺️😝😜🤪
I mean it's a training ground for criminals, you learn how to be a better criminal and exchange ideas there, of course. So you do learn something, but it's not what we want to admit.
@@derin6966 their not... People liek to think that but look at it logically... There is no way the FBI could ever possibly have a large enough workforce to have people read every single comment on every single video... They have systems that flag comments that have trigger words, you know that might show you are up to something no good. In this case you didn't really say any specific word that would indicate anything... Your just an obscure reply on a obscure comment on and abscure video on the internet. Your safe.
The Rogue - it is possible, they have face recognition and have a data base of the internet and they can look up there name and find all your media’s and pictures and so on
@@heckingbamboozled8097 and why are you validating the idea that crime involves doing nothing but having the means of protecting ones self in defiance of what some group of born wealthy tyrants says. I guess youve never heard of violating international law? Thats right. The people making your laws are the worlds criminals. Perpetrators of crimes against humanity
Zakiry what did you thinks worse dumbass? cancer cigs that they sell to us that are killing millions of people or drugs think for yourself you dickhead
The thing is, I can really really hear in both their voices that they both are very carefull with what they’re saying, a criminal that went to jail has done way more then he went to jail for, evryone that grewup w criminals etc, knows this, which makes it funnier and more interesting listening to this conversation, lovely
"If you can stop one person from going down the line that we went down, then I think that is a job well done and it's worth it" when the OG said this >>>>
This video was amazing it shows how two people were involved in a life of crime and felt trapped and lost and completely turned it around by trying to help others to not commit the same mistakes they did, this video to say the least was pretty inspirational.
That kid is a good kid I guess he had bad parents or was brought up in a bad neighborhood. He's really smart tbh He just didn't have the proper guidance
lamxung5000 he’s saying American education suck and as someone who studied in Thailand, United Kingdom, and USA, I can say USA is literally the shittest... I’m still in USA also
I hate when people downplay a knife as a weapon. I think realistically, it takes a lot "more"; (guts or heartlessness or whatever word you want to replace) to physically stick a knife in someone than to just shoot them from a given distance. In a sense, I think a knife is much more "intimate" than a gun. Edit: I never stated knives are deadlier lmao, or just generally "attack to *_kill_* " , that's a whole different discussion.
Sima KemSi I’m assuming you are getting those numbers from the US, where there is more guns than total population. Every over first world country, knife crime is more prevalent tenfold. Total deaths doesn’t measure deadliness just prevalence. I can assure you that getting stabbed is as equally lethal as getting shot
@@leuakemiaward5630 And (U.S.) roughly 98% of mass shootings ocurr in "gun-free" zones. I gladly take an armed majority that defends itself and others, as opposed to the alternative. More people die in automobile related incidents every year.