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they are a big part of the reason we have rights today. props to all of them.

👏🏻👏🏻 agree

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@Tsakani Mabasa what

I want to preface this by saying I don't mean this in an "All Lives Matter" kind of way: I also think it's perfectly natural for older people to be jealous of younger people in general. Older women being jealous of younger women, older men being jealous of younger men, only because even with everything you're gaining, the feeling of invincibility goes away. I'm slowly creeping towards middle age and even though the circumstances of my life are getting better, there's just something about being young that you can never get back. So, for older queer people to be jealous of younger queer people is something I think is perfectly normal and it doesn't have to be a toxic thing at all if you acknowledge it

I'm in between, I think? I'm 33, so I graduated high school a good 8 years before gay marriage was legal. Even coming from a supportive family, that baggage is for real. I'm so happy for Gen z gays and beyond! So much awareness.

yeah ik 😭

Yeah it kind of rubbed me the wrong way. And it definitely ISN'T cis-hetero. Cis maybe, but not hetero. Aces by definition are not heterosexual.

@@martinmateer2925 because they’re not sexually attracted to anyone?

Ace and Aro folx are part of the Queer community .full stop.

@@KpTheG correct.

Well, sorta. There is more than one shade of ace.

@@eyespliced yes, I know. I’m ace (somewhere on the spectrum) but the basic definition of asexuality is not experiencing sexual attraction. Though I know some do, or that it’s rare.

Yea. You can be asexual and bi/pan romantic

@@eyespliced Yuuuus

But being just Ace does not make you lgbt+.

Ikr that definition was way off! Somebody found out I was acespec today and it was hard for them to grasp, sadly this video won't help people to understand :

Asexual isn’t apart of the lgbtq community you guys just don’t have sex

@@Tony.S420 I am. I am not hetero. Moreover I am *romantically* attracted to women. Where do I belong? I am not a straight person. Additionally if you deny the “A” stands for asexual, you must be saying it stands for Ally…which means, straight people? So by that logic, straight people belong more in the LGBT community than me, a woman who likes women. I can’t make that figure.

But you don’t see them trynna be accepted into something their not

@@rmartin8711 than you just have friends who are girls🤣😂🤣

It was once for ALLY

I had good chemistry with Symone so I kept drinking

I may be completely wrong, and I'm too sleepy to watch it again to check this, but I don't remember if that person referred to themself as a he or a she, so maybe they're non-binary and/or use gender-neutral pronouns? If that's the case, the other person was just trying to be respectful, I guess

Might just be him trying to change his way of speaking and not assume anything of people's pronouns, which is nice. Idk what pronouns the person we're talking about uses either so it would be polite to call them they

Yes!!!! That hit me on a personal level.

Gay uncle at the beach is gunna be me one day lol I only drink like 4 times a year

Guncle

@@Tony.S420 i was about to say gruncle stan from gravity falls

Gruncle Stan

THIS

I get it though. I’m an old gay. I’m just f’n T-I-R-E-D! I met 5 women in the past month after swearing to stay single for life. 3 of them are blocked, one is boring me to death, and the last one has potential, but I’m jaded!! It’s too much work/stress!! 😊

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Came here to say this😂😂😂 I honestly feel him and I’m half his age lmao

I’m 27 and I feel that way IN MY SOUL

I dont blame him really. The POC colors on the pride flag is probably what confused him. And hey at least indigenous folks got a shout out.

In Canada the acronym is often written as 2SLGBTQ+. 2S stands for Two-Spirit, which some Indigenous communities use as a term that to describe a uniquely Indigenous cultural, spiritual, sexual, and gender identity. Perhaps he made a connection to that?

As an indigenous lgbtqia+ 2s (just the term I’ve heard that stuck in my head, but totally agree with Hunter) I lost my shit laughing 😂

@@hntrthmpsn when I heard of 2S I immediately thought it should go in the front since it’s technically the first ever recognized group. Just bc it wasn’t known in western cultures doesn’t mean it wasn’t being acknowledged and respected elsewhere.

I thought "I" stood for ice.

Himanshi K #wellsaid!!.. 👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼😉

Well said!!.. 👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼😉

Come out and be proud but don’t rub the shit in others faces.

@Bea.S At least for now, anti-trans and gay laws are being passed again

Not possible when I'll get killed for being gay in this place :) and I'll get married off to a man

I think he's annoying

@@johnabraham6695 I can see why you think that

It's because he has phlegm in his throat and he's not clearing it out 😭😭😭😭 I'm struggling to finish the video even

That cheers had me 😭

@@johnabraham6695 same. I went to the comments to c if anyone Said anything 💀

Thank you, you are going places, amazing places.

Thank you 🥺♠️🌈

Demi here 💜🖤🤍 Thank you. We receive so much hate from our own broader LGBTQIA+ community. It really hurts us.

Thought it was weird when the one older guy said that asexual people are cishet. Some may be cis and heteromantic, but others are not. I think he might just not be very informed on the topic though, a lot of older people don’t know much about it

thank you so much!

Yeah, the video squicked me but seeing the comments made me feel better.

Demi here! We need more representation and the spreading of accurate information about our A subcommunity. The definition given by that person was ignorant and harmful, and it's what spurs the prejudices and hate towards our ace/aro spectrum community.

@@Amor_y_Alma THIS!!! it really hurts when people don't even try to understand and just end up spreading lies and hate (even if it's unintentional) which actually just turns more people away from us. if there had been information about ace and aro specs when i was growing up it would've made my life a lot less challenging. feeling like you're broken and unfixable is not healthy for anyone, it's especially not healthy when we end up feeling like we have to force ourselves into sexual experiences because we "have to like it" or "just haven't found the right person". if there was simply more information about our community it would've saved me and many other individuals a lot less isolation and trauma.

@@dylaneyy Well jaiden animations made and aroace video that reached a lot of people. She has a large community. So that may help the future generations a bit

I dont think they were very respectful though.. correct me if I'm wrong, but he implied that acespec people shouldn't really be considered as part of the community* *I had used the word queer to refer to the community, but I've been made aware that not everyone is comfortable with that word since it once was a slur, so I edited it out of my comment. Sorry, guys. Didn't have the intention of hurting anyone, but thank you for letting me know.

I agree with you. No one is “cancelling” that’s not it. But as an ace person who is in love with a same sex person, I felt disoriented smack middle of an otherwise wholesome video. I respect their views as they’ve been in the scene longer. But I feel all the comments pointing out that ace people also belong to lgbtqia community speak for me and the flare of “wait what :( no” I felt when they talking about Ace people. All peace though I agree with you in the end. :)

@@carolstaneck7694 tbh....I get what you're saying but in the end that's his opinion

@@EnzoPepsiCola prejudice shouldn't be just brushed off as opinions

I don't think they meant it in a malicious way, but that's a conversation we should be having. While reading the comments I found more people erasing aro/ace identities, which is quite of a bummer coming from the community itself

Let children be children, there’s nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+ but at such a young age they should have no knowledge of that

@@ericreid3540 I knew I was gay around age 7, but didn't know what homosexuality was. If I told a teacher my feelings, they wouldn't be able to say anything back or comfort me. If I had two gay parents, am I not allowed to talk about them? Is my teacher not allowed to talk about them either? If there is homophobia in the class, is the teacher not allowed to stop it because they can't talk about gay individuals?

@@spongebobislyfe5906 that’s not what the don’t say gay bill is. The don’t say gay bill is where a teacher has to report if they hear a child’s parent is giving them hormone blockers or surgery, which is child abuse.

Obviously you don’t know what the “don’t say gay” bill is.

@corngunner You are thinking of a directive from the governor of Texas for child welfare to investigate any families whose children are transitioning. The ‘Don’t say gay’ bill was issued in Florida, and limits what can/cannot be said about sexuality in the classroom.

I was a little tipsy when I answered that lol

I'm grand with the LGBT+ , because it's a positive, inclusive definition at least

@@toyotaprius79 Yeah in Spanish we also use it in terms of efficiency.

-INDIGENOUS-

@@therewasonceacatnamedmeimc247 i think he may have been thinking of “2 spirited” which has to do with indigenous culture if i’m not mistaken

Don’t worry it’s still LGBT

Fr I was boutta comment this lol

I was so disappointed lol

There was absolutely no understanding involved whatsoever

I started crying!!

You're a part of the community, don't let anyone make you believe otherwise

If your attracted to the same gender just say your gay no need to be extra and add this asexual bullshit

You DO belong in the LGBTQ+ community. Ace-erasure is a huge issue still and everyday we fight against the ignorance 💜🖤

@@corngunner Nah, this ain't it. Just say that you don't understand what asexuality is and why it should be named, and call it a day.

It did used to be part of the community, I think. But being an ally is getting more normal now, so it doesn’t really need to be. Some people still include it, however. Lgbtqiaap2sp. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual, 2 spirit.

*no time

Well Q did stand for questioning. And "queer" wasn't considered an identity, and it's still pretty nebulous let's be honest

Jaiden animations made an aroace video if you haven't seen it already

@@spongebobislyfe5906 Oh yeah, I did. It's pretty good, thanks for the recommendation!

@@spongebobislyfe5906 It was great...

That is a great piece of advice. Also thank you.

Yeah. I was like, "they are going to correct them, right? At least put an advice about the right definition of asexual?". I get that not everyone knows about asexuality, it's fine! But at least, correct people when they say wrong definitions/thing about it, cause others are going to watch this video and think thay asexual actually means what they said.

@@childofathena_ Could you imagine if that part had someone saying trans people or bi people weren't a part of the community or that they were basically cishet? It's wild how aces being invalidated is chill to so many people creating content.

You do belong in our community, anyone who says otherwise is either bigoted, or ignorant.

not everyone is educated on it

I never thought about it in that way, but I see what you mean.

What do they mean then

Could you explain a little?

The gay agenda was used by the religious right as a way to demonize LGBTQ+ individuals, and their acceptance. It originated from a homophobic video and has been used in all sorts of arguments. Usually based off of the "slippery slope" that LGBTQ+ positive laws would lead to incest, bestiality, and pedophilia. It is also used in other countries. The gay/trans panic argument allows the use of violence and murder against members of the LGBTQ+ community, because of unwanted sexual advances. It is a plea of temporary insanity. This argument is not outlawed, and it has been used to deflect hate crime charges, and give those who use it lighter punishments. This includes cases where the victim was beaten to death.

i'm pretty sure everyone knows the origin, its not like its still not used in that way but it just sounds ridiculous now BECAUSE of the fact that we talk about it in this way. Same way queer used to be a slur but now its a label used by a lot of lgbt people, its reclaiming the term and removing its power.

Thank you!!!

Im in the community & just being ace does not mean you’re in LGBT+. Ace the basic term is non sexual. That has nothing to do with the lgbt . Just personally someone is asexual meaning they don’t have sexual relationships more attracted to a person by their mind.

I think thats what their applying!! But queer is definitely a part of it so im not sure.

@@lexissmiller9151 you’re actually wrong about that one. Asexual and aromantic people are a part of the lgbt+ community. They always have and always will. So please don’t be exclusionary it’s not very kind. I urge you to understand this.

@@lexissmiller9151 Asexuality deviates from the norm, so it is a part of the LGBTQ+ community. They face bigotry as well, and sadly it's within the community itself

I hear you , that part was hard to watch honestly

It makes me want to cry as an asexual. And I’m biromantic

Ace isn't a sexuality. It's a way of expressing your sexuality. You can be ace and be hetero. Unless you are attracted to the same gender or many others, than you are straight. That's your sexuality

Yeah sadly there is bigotry in the LGBTQ+ community, but there are many others who will accept and empathize with you.

@@spongebobislyfe5906 true. Just wish people weren’t ignorant or like this ya know. The world can suck

I'm homophobic

@@dudewars9072 Get better at trolling

Yup there are people willing to support you in the LGBTQ+ community, and outside it as well

I know I feel it too! It's amazing!

@@dudewars9072 ngl i think anybody named "jArEn" is homophobic

It’s because they aren’t part of the community, wake up.

@@TearMyWorldFANTAGE why do you believe that?

@@TearMyWorldFANTAGE They're a part of the community, they face the same struggles and bigotry we do

@@TearMyWorldFANTAGE why do you feel the need to be so exclusionary? the community encompasses anyone who isn't cis/het, and aro/ace people fall under that description. they feel the same alienation we do, unfortunately you're part of the problem there.

@@TearMyWorldFANTAGE What makes them not part of the community? Demi-sexual here. I have dated both a man and a woman- have had sex with neither. Sex is not on my radar with people- its something I *might* consider one day, but really have next to no temptation nor drive for. This goes for both Men and Women. So assuming that I was not dating at all, I would *still* be ace. Not looking for sex from *either*. Just as someone who is gay might not my in a relationship, but that still does not make them any less gay. I have no idea where you are getting it from that ace spectrum people aren't lgbtq?? Like- why exactly do you think this? I just don't know how it doesn't make sense to people?? You don't have an interest in sex is broader than just having an interest in one. That applies across the board which at the very least makes it a closer comparison to someone who is Pan- Would you tell a pansexual person that they aren't *really* pan because they happen to be dating a single gender and just assume that they are now either gay or het based on their current partner?? Seriously. Explain this thought process to me and why its so exclusionary? What are the stipulations here???

Homies how hard is it to understand? No attraction and opposite sex attraction are 2 completely different things. If u're referring to love\affection omance that ace people might experience, then it's a whole different topic and has nothing to do with term defining sexuality😤

@@Lilian040210 English is not my first language so I'm not sure what you mean, but if you are asking what i ment when i said "straight or not", i ment those who are on the ace spectrum and are more or less straight. Maybe demisexual or aceflux and straight. And they are all still valid (regardless of romantic interest).

Yeah, there's a lot of lack of chill in these comments from people who don't recognise that LGBTQIA+, like literally everything else we all hold near and dear, is a recent construct and is notsome monoloithic thing we unearthed from the bowels of the goddamn earth. If we could all maybe be a little kinder to people who clearly want to be allies (yes, even those "old fossil gays" from yesteryear who don't know what being asexual or queer means, god forbid), we might also gain some insight into the history of fight for equality and how it has had to shift over the years, and maybe avoid making shibboleths for future generations.

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But do you really think cis het asexual people should be in the lgbtq community? Obviously queer and trans ace people are a part of the community but thats because they're..... queer and trans. not ace

!!thiss

if ur aro or ace and cishet ur not lgbt lol ur just a straight person wanting to b grouped in for some reason😭 unless u are both aro AND ace. have a great day tho

@@ceilingfanv I love it when people are proud about not understanding the basic definitions of words. Y'all just out here being openly pathetic for no reason lmaooo

I was tipsy lol

@@Crashandburn80 🤣

Ikr? The hypocrisy... They tell aces all the things they hear from homophobes and nothing clicks in their brains... Also all the "virgin" jokes and being single constantly used in a deragatory way is very old

@@Lilian040210 exactly. I'm sick of it. They claim inclusivity and open-mindedness but apparently it's only for their circumstances.

You deserve to be a part of the community, don't let ignorant people make you believe otherwise There are plenty of LGBTQ+ people who will support you as well

@@spongebobislyfe5906 I’ve seen ur comments in this comment section. You are a solid, kind person. Thank you for existing

Why try to be included in a category that simply doesn't fit you? are you trying to be considered a reptile as well? you're not a reptile and you're not a homosexual. just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. gay people don't exist to make you feel included. you are not like us.

@@maze6797 lgbt isn’t only about being homosexual. What about the b or t? Or the I even. It is about being separate from the “norm” and about being a part of a community that strives to make everyone feel comfortable in their own sexuality despite others pushing back saying it’s a phase or untrue etc. I’ve experienced a lot of backlash from family for being asexual. The only part of me accepted in the community is me being biromantic and that’s it which sucks. And even then im in a hetero relationship even though I have that romantic attraction to women as well as men

@@Katiec6597 It was until everybody wanted to be included in it. that's literally the problem. YOU are literally the problem.