Even though I started really playing and understanding yugioh around the beginning of xyz era, these were always legends. One of the things I always think is super cool is how the 'chaos' deck isn't a true archetype as we see them today which makes the deck feel so much cooler.
dude you know what's even cooler? chaos has been a playable deck for 19 years and it was never an archetype! or i mean like it's an archetype as of like...fucking last year? chaos witch is a house and a mommy. but remember how cool like structure deck: dragons collide was? chaos has always been enigmatic as fuck
uhhh ahaha bro if this deck was legal rn it would honestly compete or at least that's what lithium2300's channel might have you believe. it would be pretty fun to play for sure
I love your channel. One of the few card collectors who's not in it just for investment purposes and/or for attention. You seem to be truly passionate about the hobby, and that's admirable.
MTGDog thank you! I have always been passionate about yugioh cards, even when they were relatively worthless. I actually think it’s a shame that they’re so expensive now due to investors and speculators trying to make a buck on something they aren’t passionate about. Makes it near impossible for true collectors out there to pick up old school cards at an affordable price. I hope investors lose interest soon and prices drop for the true collectors!
@@TheOldSchoolExpert AlphaInvestments created a bandwagon. Sports, Pokémon, and MTG have also seen unprecedented price spikes over the past 4 years. And to be blunt, most of the bandwagon investors I've spoken with are total douchebags. The same types of people who bullied the trading card crowd in high school.
@@TheOldSchoolExpert they'll stop caring if prices stop going up. And for prices to keep going up, new investors have to continue entering the market. It's essentially multilevel marketing. Look at what's going on with MTG now. Too many investors entered the market too fast, and now there's no one left to recruit.
It's the ONLY real Yu Gi oh period. Everything else is ideological 'equality' version of Yu Gi oh. 'fluffy and soft' so it doesn't hurt anyones fucking feelings. I will never remember what they have done to this once beautiful show and game.
@@14reasons58 bro those are some crazy fucking buzzwords haha i don't actually have a clue wtf you're trynna say but i'll bite; i'm pretty fucking glad i've never been yata locked haha
My older brother had a version of this deck back in 04. I only used a simple beat down deck so I didn’t stand a chance of beating it. Even though I kept trying back than lol
This is my favourite kind of video. Love these. Could we get a video of a duel using some old school decks? Like someone else said, I've got an old school beatdown deck so if you want duel it'd be my pleasure.
Would love a video discussing the differences between the original Unlimited print runs of sets like LOB, MRD, PSV etc vs the reprinted versions. I have heard you mention the reprints a few times and would love to be able to spot the differences myself. Been out of the game since around 2005 and didn't even know they were reprinted until you mentioned it in one of your vids. I've hunted around online but can't find anything to help, thanks! Also, does the reprinting of these unlimited runs explain the extremely low value of unlimited holos? being able to pick up iconic holos from 2002-3 for a couple bucks or even a few cents seems crazy to me and would love to hear more about that in a video. I feel they're undervalued! Thanks for all the great content :)
I'm in a very similar situation as you, an older player who is hunting down older cards for nostalgia and I have noticed that the reprinted versions have considerably lighter textboxes and a slightly larger artwork and the newer holos are more "reflective/shinier" than the older ones. The best bet is to go on eBay and buy single listings when there is only one available with photos. i.e. If you google Monster Reborn 1st edition LOB, you will see that it will say, "Magic Card" and the textbox will be a rich green. Then google Monster Reborn Unlimited Edition LOB, and you should see that it will say, "Spell Card" with a pale green textbox. I hope that helps you.
Classic Deck... Mine was ran similarly but they pretty much all were honestly. Three Chaos, Yata, Serpent, a ton of Magic (which I run heavy anyways, always have) and very little Traps. So much fun and classic format.
Love your videos lately man! You should do a run down of all your favorite cards. Not rarest or most expensive. Just like a back story of why you got started, cards you’d never sell, what you’ve had the longest. Stuff like that. Great content so far tho!
Yea and they ruined it. Now it has all the 'modern dueling play styles'. It's disgusting. It had the original play style for the longest time and it was simple and enjoyable. Now it's a bastardized train wreck
@@14reasons58 I play both duel links and master duel and I always like to challenge myself to build decks using only old school summoning methods. No links, no synchros, no XYZs. I allow myself fusions and generic special summons and that’s it. I use classic trap cards like negate attack, mirror force, and magic cylinder (on MD since they aren’t in DL). It’s a lot of fun to play and while I don’t win all or even most of my games (I would say I have a better win rate on master duel than duel links), I like the fact that old school decks can still compete with the new stuff.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 I deliberately deleted my duel links on purpose about 2 years ago. I think that's just about when they changed the play style to all the crap new play styles. And I tried syncing my account but it never worked. I just thought fck it
Another good option for a light beatstick is Thunder Nyan Nyan. She's 1900 and she goes to grave if you control a non light, so if you need a light in grave she can help facilitate that
This format didn't feel like Solitaire with the insane combo chains for OTK and FTKs available now. Back when special summoning used to be somewhat special.
Thank's for this memories! The banlist made me stop playing around 2005 I think when half of my Exodia Deck was in it. =D Still a big Fan of the Dark Magician of Chaos ♥_♥
minus mad dog, minus 1 kycoo, minus 1 reflect bounder. Add 1 mystic tamato, add 2 don zaloog. Side board in the 2nd kycoo if you really need the control further in a best of 3. 3 DD warrior lady is fine, but many opted for just 2 and used a a spirit reaper. Often times a spirit reaper was the only wall keeping you alive for a turn or 2. I topped a regional myself in 2004 during this format. I quit when they dropped the banlist. I ran 3 soul release in my side deck along with 2 kycoo. One of the smoothest starts was setting a reaper just for them to ram into with no fissure/snatch/change in hand. A simple fissure into a heavy storm or duster with a don drop and you just gutted up to 2 cards from their hand. Also if you are running tamato/angels with like a single scapegoat you are in the market for a creature swap or 2. Ramming into your own tamato to pull out your own don or DDlady priceless.
Totally disagree. No archetypes, no banlist, no overall strategy beyond just play a bunch of chaos monsters and broken spell cards. Total degeneracy with no room for creativity and skill expression. Modern yugioh has so much more room for creativity with deck building. If you think playing cards like pot of greed and being able to Yata lock kids is Yugioh at its peak than so be it but I'm good on that
This is my Chaos Control Deck. In 2004 I run 2x MoF instead of Blade Knight, 1 Archfiend Soldier instead of Don Zaloog and Swords of Revealling Light instead of United we Stand. CED BLS DMoC Jinzo Parshat Breaker Kycoo Don Witch Sangan Reaper Bounder Blade Knight DDWL MoF Tribe Sinister Yata Raigeki Hole Duster Storm MST Reborn Burial Change of Heart Snatch Pot of Greed Graceful Painful Duo Confiscation Forceful United we Stand Ring Torrential Mirror Imperial Cylinder Call
Such a nice deck.. After this video i removed Jinjo and i added Blade Knight.. it a Light 1.600 atk and destroys Flips as well its like Nobleman Of Crossout.. can you make more decks like this, i mean before the moment they start to abn cards.. maybe you make a zombie deck .. i like verry much to see a old school zombie deck.. after all thoose words, verry good job!
Awesome Deck. I run a similar one. But I also use Jinzo and Airknight Parshat as Tribute Monsters. Airknight is for extra drawing power and Jinzo is there as an 2400 Beatstick and for Trap Negation. It is great to have Jinzo and BLS on the field and have free attacks on your opponent. I also run DMoC but I just use him if I can Special Summoning him with Monster Reborn. Or I have Sangan, Witch, Spirit Reaper on the field and Change of Heart/Snatch on hand. I dont summon him with two tributes. For my Dark Monsters I run Don Zaloog for Hand Destruction and Spirit Reaper as Stall Defender and rarely Hand Destruction. My Light Monster are Airknight, 2x MoF, DDWL, Bounder. Later I added Blade Knight for an MoF when it was released in October 2004. For my Spells i run Heavy Storm, Confiscation and United we Stand. BLS + United we Stand is a Matchwinner. I never run 3 copies of MST and Mirage because of space reasons. I dont want to have more then 40 cards in my Deck. For my Traps I use Torrential Tribute and Magic Cylinder. But they are so many great cards that I want to add to my Deck but then I have to put more then 40 cards into it.
I still have my old Chaos deck. 40 card deck Dark Chaos Empoorer Dragon-Envoy of The End x1 Chaos Sorcerer X1 Dark Magician of Chaos x1 Sangan x1 Witch of the Black Forest X1 Cyber Jar X1 Exarion Universe X3 Spirit Reaper X1 Light Black Luster Solder- Envoy of the Beginning x1 Blue Eyes White Dragon x3 Kaibaman X1 Ninja Grandmaster Sasuke x3 Marshmallon x1 (4 non-Light & Dark so you know there deadly) Water Abyss Soldier x1 Sinister Serpent x1 (Very evil mini combo if pulled back in the day. Sangan & Witch could help you pull this combo more often then you would think. I would drive people nuts constantly bouncing stuff back to there hand) Fire Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys Earth Yata-Garasu Spell/Magic Cards (Magic card, yes there that old) Monster Reborn x1 (My 1st foil card ever. Very personal card) Dark Hole x1 Card Destruction x1 Harpie's Feather Duster x1 (Spell Card) Graceful Cherity X1 Pot of Greed X1 Magical Mallet x1 Heavy Storm x1 Reigeki x1 Premature Burial x1 D.D.R.- Different Dimension Reincarnation x2 Trap Cards Call of the Haunted x1 Mirror Force x1 Reigeki Break x3 Note: Reigeki Break was the real backbone of the deck. It's cost of sacrificing 1 card from the hand would hurt most decks but in this one it allowed me to fill my graveyard with big light & dark monsters. It could destroy any one card on the field (including your own if for example you needed to drop a light monster from your hand & kill your own dark monster to force material into graveyard to pull a chaos summon) It replaced many common cards for me like tap hole, dust tornado, & Mystical Space Typhoon. It also delt with Murphy's law as I can't count how many times I had Mystical Space Typhoon & needed a Trap hole or vice versa with other decks. 15 card side deck Spell cards D.D.R.-Differernt Demension Reincarnation x1 Mystics Space Typhoon x1 (drop in for a reigeki break when people ran Jinzo & Royal Decree) Trap Cards Interdimensional Matter Transporter x3 Light Magician of Faith x1 D.D. Warrior Lady x1 Dark Chaos Sorcerer x2 Great Maju Garzett x1 (Sacrifice Blue eyes for 6000 attack. Fun surprise when i'd put him in) Kariboh x1 Kycoo The Ghost Destroyer x1 D.D. Survivor x3 Fusion/Extra Deck (Rarly use these cards as I have to steal an opponents card to actually use them but I like to keep them with my special deck. Its not like it ever hurt me back in the day.) Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon x3
I miss this era but atleast we have goat format. Trying to think i know i had heavy confiscation and rotas, torrential, don zaloog and blade knight think the split was 18/18/5 i always liked 41 for some reason
The hours I spent working a shitty job as a kid to afford these cards and the amount of homework I had to do for my paretns to let me go to locals, regionals and nats lool. Worth it
One of my brothers who are 22 or 23 used to have the oldest versions of Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and after he told me he had them, he told me he lost them cards and I mean he lost all of the cards he had back in the 2000s and after he told me that, I was expecting him to still have them so he can give them to me for entertainment, because I never lose cards from my sight but nope he had to lose them cards. Plus he even had the blue eyes white dragon on his deck!
Always love your vids. I've got my harpie goat deck if you ever want to duel. Just hit me up. It goes up to MFC. This deck was so annoying. XD I used to face them all the time back in the day when I would go to regionals.
This was when Yu-Gi-Oh! was actually about outsmarting your opponent. Nowadays it's more like "Whoever has the best first hand and the most handtraps in it wins." It's just not exciting anymore imo
Also not sure if I like having a Mirage and 3 MST with the Harpies. As you said not many traps in this format (the 4 you have are the standard ones) and only Mirror Force isn't chainable. I'd at least take out one MST for Confiscation but that's me.
@@nintendokings Chaos sorc wasn't used until after the banlist to replace CED. Mad dog/archfiend soldier provides much needed pressure on your opponent for when you don't have a beat stick or chaos monster to summon, especially because this deck uses so little trap support. Not running feather duster is absurd! At least one of the MSTs is dedicated to your Mirage, so that leaves two MSTs (hopefully one for your opponent's Mirage before they get the effect off) and one duster to use on your opponent's backrow. And not every deck is built this way; some people ran magic cylinder, torrential tribute and solemn judgment. So Duster is ESSENTIAL in this format, especially if your opponent actually uses traps beyond the staples.
@@iandouglas8274 Of course you run Duster I never said you shouldn't. I just said Duster + 3MST is a bit much imo. Also never said he should run Chaos Sorc, just that I consider it one of the three 'Chaos' monsters. And I don't see the need for Mad Dog. Maybe side deck if your opp is running lots of 1800 or 1900. But other than that the 100atk boost over, say, a third Kycoo and its effect is not really worth it. What ''much needed pressure'' is this extra 100 when you could in stead have a great effect? Or I'd run Don Zaloog over Mad Dog, weaker beater but incredible effect.
You’re not understanding what pressure is. It’s not just having 100 more attack. This is a game of resources, so when your monster destroys your opponent’s (like mad dog over opponent’s kycoo) that leaves you with +1. You destroyed your opponent’s resource and still have yours. The 100 life points in damage means almost nothing. If you only run kycoo and your opponent has one on the field then what? You run your kycoo into your opponent’s? That’s a waste of a normal summon and you don’t plus. That’s why mad dog is useful. It pressures your opponent to do something about mad dog’s presence on the field during their turn, while offering an out to their kycoo on your turn. And no way I’d not run 3 MST. That gives you less of a chance to use Mirage for hand advantage. Con isn’t worth that. If anything I’d sub a monster for con but it’s really not an essential card. Especially if you draw it beyond 3rd turn. It’s a dead draw late in the game (as is any hand destruction) and since it’s the worst of the three, it’s the odd man out. Though I would def side deck it
@@TheOldSchoolExpert I know it's not just about 100atk... But most 2004 chaos decks I've seen don't run many 1800 (or 1900) monsters. Usually max 2 Kycoo (and a Breaker). So you're running Mad Dog in the hopes of running into these 2-3 cards of your opponent to get that +1. When you could, say (not that you should), run another Kycoo and have almost the same potential to beat over your opponent monsters, plus the amazing effect. Kycoo's effect has more potential to create a +1 than Mad Dog running into an opponents Kycoo. If most decks only run two 1800 beaters or fewer, Mad Dog isn't worth it. Which is also why I think rarely see 2004 chaos decks run Mad Dog. I'd take it out for Confiscation or perhaps even Berserk Gorilla if you really want that pressure (just isn't chaos fodder). And with 3 MSTs, if you'd play against yourself, MST will often be a -1 without Mirage. So against your exact deck I'd prefer 2, but tbf most decks run more traps so I think 3 is fine too. That's the fun of having different Chaos decks.
The last deck that won me a nationals except i had 3 Cyber Dragons in mine + Tomato’s. Pretty simular though ran Sakuretsu Armor and a smashing ground too, side deck to counter burn decks. As soon as Synchro cards came out i quit the game. Good memories from this video though.
Been playing some Nightmare Troubadour DS again. Did you ever play that one? Really fun using all these cards again. Fuck Snatch Steal. Pretty much the only card I’ve lost to when they steal your Jinzo or BLS.
So many variants to choas decks and they all just wrecked face. Favorite by far was running DD assailants, strike ninja and 2 DMOC with dimension fusion. Never lost a tournament with that line up.
17:09 So to be honest, as someone who hasn't played this game or any TCG in over 15 years now, banning cards seems a lot like putting on a bulletproof vest after you're already shot. Mistakes happen, but how can the people who make these cards not know the power these cards will have until after they're released. Maybe 1 or 2 overpower cards can slip through the cracks, but with the number of banned cards it seems the card designers sucked at their jobs.
I’m not sure they sucked at their jobs. There will always be power creep in yugioh because there is not cycle, everything is legal except a small fraction of cards on the banlist. You can’t just start making cards weaker once you realize they are overpowered because no one will use the weaker cards and the game will never advance. You also can’t predict the future and know which cards will be a problem in the future. Especially when older cards are used in combination with newer cards in ways never imagined. It’s why you have stuff like Card of Safe Return on the banlist (rightfully so) even though it was a garbage card back in 2003 and was garbage until like 2009 when the game evolved to the point where it was broken. Just my thoughts 👍
I also just noticed there's no Fiber Jar in this list. That's a pretty big omission as well. I'm not trying to be mean, just pointing out the differences between your list and the most conventional list at the time.
Back then there was no limit on the size of the fusion deck so you’d just play 3 of every fusion that could theoretically matter. The most common ones to SS with Scientist in this deck are Balter, Senshi, TER.
A few years ago my homies and I would do tournaments with just us. 8 of us. We would take turns with rules in the tournament. Example: no special Summons. No more than one copy of each card. No xyz or synchro. Pretty fun. Everyone would put in 15 dollars. 1st and 2nd place would get money from pool.
I purchased a random lot of cards recently and i have a chaos emperor dragon envoy of the end (shiny) TLM-ENSE2. I take it its a new card as I'm new to this stuff?
How come you didn't list the cards that were in the extra/fusion deck? You have magical scientist. I know that requires cards in the extra/fusion deck. So why didn't you list them, and can you list them now please?
Because with magical scientist there are about a million cards you could put in the fusion deck but only a handful that are relevant (TER, Balter, Ryu-Senshi, Fiend Skull) and that's about it. There's no strategy/tech to the fusion deck with Scientist so no need to include it.
@TheOldSchoolExpert well I was still wanting to know what you would have put in that fusion deck. Because I am trying to build an old fashioned Chaos deck from back in the day before all the card errata's and newer mechanics that exist today, and I can't remember what was commonly used in the fusion deck durring pro tournaments back then.