I remember Training in Isshin Ryu Karate in1970 , so much mental discipline is needed! Eventually earning third-degree black belt, I train 50 years in martial arts miss it every day
Awesome video, Shotokan Karate-do All the techniques you see here along with many others are being used in today's MMA and UFC arenas's. Thank all you Sensei's whom maintain a rigorous traditional art form. "The stronger the Root, the better the Fruit/Tree".
Здравствуйте уважаемый Сергей Власов !. Нигде не могу найти старое видео по тренировке каратистов, что меня поразило в нем, что один из каратистов разбил щепотью пальцев подвешенную бутылку из под шампанского, вот это сила.
WOW! There is no school like the old school! And some of that old school is still used today! Also, the Boxer has less to use then the Karate master, but he can use it well! The karate master can also use what he knows well! So pick what you want and enjoy! Both work fine! And while no contact sparring still exists, so does FULL contact sparring! Sure some people don't like it, but some people DO!
Seeing these old films is a reminder to me of the time & effort put into making karate succeed all around the world. Even today we are benefitting from their hard work and planning.
I was trained that way in the 70's with the JKA (makiwara training was very highly recommended). 50 years on, I have to judiciously decide how much my bones could take. I don't have a makiwara but there is a big brass padlock hanging on the gate in the park where I train almost everyday. It makes your tsuki accurate (or much pain is felt). I miss that kind of dojo training. The other karateka can uplift you to do more than you want to on days that you really don't feel it. I suspect that you might do the same for them, too. Oss!
That’s great! My son and I built a Makiwara board in my backyard a couple of years ago. I don’t always use it but when I do it gives me the feedback that I need.
Сергей, здравствуйте! Спасибо за Ваше творчество, очень давно подписан на канал. Очень хочется услышать Ваше мнение о модернизации каратэ. Не WKF, а каратэ в целом. Как Вы считаете, старая школа Накаямы самая правильная? Или же каратэ, как и все в нашем мире(наука, медицина, технический прогресс) должно развиваться и приобретать иной вид? Предлагаю Вам снять видео на тему "каратэ в первоначальном виде vs современное каратэ"
To be honest, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I like any Martial art ehich is part traditional yet open to technical, teaching or other changes over time.
There are a few differences from how the kata is taught nowadays... looks like a narrow fudo dachi with the rising elbow on move 3, the final technique after the double punch has no circular blocks preceding it... I wonder when and why the change?
7:20- "karete expert by far the more formidable opponent." I wonder if they tested this back then. Is there a video? It seems like common wisdom is boxing is fine against one of the traditional karate styles, so I wonder if this changed ad some point as one art developed more then the other, or if it was just favoritism from the narrator. I'd love to see a REALLY old school karate vs boxer match, from back before Karate was commercialized.
Boxing tends to be 'fine' against the traditional martial arts because boxers train to fight, including live, unrehearsed sparring. Common wisdom tells us the trained fighter beats the untrained one regardless of style. It might also suggest that with equally good training the fighter with more techniques (eg kicks, elbows, throws, chokes as found in Karate) would win. But not always :)
Adam AMBM I too wonder about this, maybe if we look for it long enough, a video of an old karate master vs a boxer can show up or we shall have to wait.
@Paul I'd agree. I'd also say there are disadvantages to boxing, like not protecting against kicks or take downs. Really any "A martial part plus B martial art" will probably beat "just A martial art."
In the early 70s when full contact competition was coming in, Aaron Banks hosted some events in New York City's Madison Square Garden called "The Oriental World of Self Defense" where many different martial arts were demonstrated by various masters and high ranking students. There were full contact boxer vs karate man bouts staged and in those early days the karate men regularly got their asses handed to them because they were not used to training for full contact and they did not have the stamina for a longer fight. (This was around the time I began my karate training in 1973). Things changed later when training habits evolved. I would watch these events (some televised) with great interest. I am sure some of that stuff is available on RU-vid. Martial arts have evolved (Bruce Lee was a major catalyst in that progression). Just look at the free sparring in this video with the karatekas hands down at their waists. Nobody trains or fights like that anymore.
Ah...how watching this video brings back a flood of memory of my youth. I used to train in and practice all these movements. My instructor was a direct student of Sensei Nakayama. That's the time when you feel you could fly doing the tobi geri. I practiced using the makiwara until all my knuckles were calloused and knotty (to the point it was embarrassing because you could not hide them). But now, I am old and I only practice some kata just to keep me limber. The problem is, it has been so ingrained in my blood that I almost hurt my wife several times when she sneaked and touched me from behind unintentionally. She said there should be a ritual that I could perform to wash off all the effect my training from my system. Is there?
Samiaji Judistira no reason to kill the warrior you forged with so many struggle. Just remember to stay in zanshin, and she won’t surprise you anymore hehe
U must've had some intense training. You have a passion for karate training, as you still train today. That's amazing, don't let it go. Hopefully you show others your art of karate. Oss!!
I can help you with that. The problem is that training your instict to forget something you have trained your instinct to remember requires a lot. You would have to retrain a lot of different processes. It might be easier to train yourself to identify friend or foe at all times. Situational awareness per say would greatly reduce the chances of you injuring a friend
@@frankie7033 Oss! Thank you. I studied it in my home country long time ago before I moved to the US. Karate dojos in my old country are not commercialized. A sensei teaches out of a duty as a disciple, not to make money. Therefore they can afford to be very strict and "brutal". In the US I used to teach the guys at a fire-hall, and also at work after hours.
Глядя на мастеров "старой школы", понимаешь, что каратэ это боевое оружие. Нет ни какой состязательности, все просто и рационально, как нажатие пальца на курок.
It's the best form of self defence ( if you get a good teacher and partners to train with ) Not good for MMA though, takes to long to learn and has a lot you wouldn't use. Kickboxing and wrestling for MMA Judo and boxing for door work Ju Jitsui for the rozzers And 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps for me please
My Sensei said "karate has so much type of hands and foots techniques" karate can fight like a boxing, like muay thai, but boxing and muay thai can't fight like a karate.
@@fabienbordes7788 kara can mean Chinese or empty, and te means hand. The Okinawans understood that karate referred to Chinese hand or Chinese boxing. For nationalistic reasons Gichin Funakoshi changed the meaning to empty hand way-karate do. This appears in Gichin Funakoshi's My Way of Life.
@@fabienbordes7788 The book is very good. Gichin Funakoshi states in his biography that empty is a reference to the emptying of self. Karate-do can enable the practitioner to gain enlightenment. Okinawan karate was a killing art not a way art.
@@stuart5811I don't learn karate to kill someone this day. A gun would be way more simple and efficient. :D I think the is why we say karate do since only a few year. Martial art change when the world change. JJB and wrestle with boxes is the best way to fight today... under MMA rules. People should learn an art. This could be a martial art, or music, or drawing or anything else. When you found something you like, you learn to be concentrate, calm, you search to master it. That's not bad too :)
@@evanmcclure67 I know okinawa ,i have been in japan many years in hammamatsu...japanese is a good nations now...but still...nipon histories is dark...peace bro
You can see how the standard has improved since then. The actual quality of technique isn’t so great ,but it’s the fledgling of what developed at the Jka under Nakayama and others who were innovators,Kanazawa,enoeda ,kase,shirai,tanaka,yahara etc...
This is a good base martial art. The hardening of the body is necessary for real combat. Add some jiujitsu and your good. Remember guys its not about who has the best martial art in real life. Not everyone is trying to train to be the ultimate warrior, who has time for that. It's about improving your chance of survival in a altercation. Even just running can help.
we should stop saying old school, it makes it sound for most who look at this like something they can never learn and that will never be available to them again, let's just say: REAL JAPANESE karate training and then you can show some crap from today and call it what it mostly is, fake karate practice
Most karate schools today are only interested in money. Winning trophies is their main priority. A wall full of trophies lure in the new students who believe they are going to a really good school because they have won so many trophies. What they do is train kids to perform some aspect of Karate like learning a specific kata in the black belt level and little else. They select kids with a good sense of balace and coordination who would be very good dancers if they chose to dance. When the child is proficient enough at the Kata, he or she is promoted to black belt (much to the delight of the child and the boastful parents) and they enter tournaments in the black belt division. They win the trophy with no problem and it is added to the wall of trophies. to lure in more paying students. My advice to anyone looking to take Karate is avoid the schools with tons of trophies on display, a huge crowd of students and pint sized black belts.
@@carolstevens1429 Hello you are right but the main important thing is hard training and the right instructor. From your name possibly you are in USA and this video is JKA Karate; this type of Karate has the best instructors in Japan and outside Japan in Argentina (Mitsuo Inoue sensei), Brazil and couple of places in Europe. In the rest of the Countries we, the students do the best as possible. I went to the JKA in Tokyo but I do not like those types of dojo (you do not feel the spirit); in fact do not look like one. Also if you like Japanese Karate but do not like competition (like me) the good option is the Shotokai; that is the school that founded Mr Funakoshi, then Mr Enoeda took charge; problem is there is no any fine instructor outside Japan and they are in a few Countries. Regarding instructors (sensei) for example you have Wado ryu main dojo in Tokyo that is very good however, Wado ryu in many Countries is not so good. No doubt what type of Sensei counts sometimes more than the style of Karate. The final hit for Karate will be in the Olympic games; if Karate is part of those games, Budo Karate or Bunkai will disappear at some point. Remember what happened to Tae kwon do when entered the games; now is fake everywhere
This is Japanese karate. Alot different to Okinawan karate, which is more traditional and true to the art. Japan made karate more of a sport and wanted to focus more on its strikes
I once asked my instructor why we use those padded strips of cloth on our knuckles during kumite in tournaments. I thought it would be safer for the opponent. His reply: 'Stupid ahh, it is to protect your knuckles'. The same knuckles that are gnarled and deformed from years of makiwara training. Nowadays, karate kumite fighters use modified gloves in tournaments. They usually don't do makiwara training, either.
karate never changes. .as always the movements were all robotic, it seems to move in only two dimensions; its punches always travel in straight lines. .no circular punches like the hooks in boxing. .the body and the head were all straight up making the chin exposed and an easy target(like that of machida vs rua). .there were competitions pitting karatekas against boxing and karate had negative results. .even against the soft form taichi karate is no match. .
Karate and traditional martial arts layed the foundation for kickboxing and most modern martial arts ya fucking goof. Karate and kickboxing when used in sparring is pretty much identical
Yet many Karateka like Machida, GSP, Bas Rutten and others have been very successful. All the techniques in kickboxing are also in Karate and then some. I've trained in Karate and Muay Thai and held my own in sparring. I respect both no need to be disrespectful. Do you train in any martial art?
@@timlinator Obviously kickboxing is effective. I'm a big fan and practitioner. It has a handful of effective techniques that actually work. There are no horse stances, Kata's, shuto strikes, and a hundred other useless techniques as in all other traditional marital arts. Thank you for reinforcing my very point.
@@seadoogti9288 You don't know how those techniques work. Horse stance is for throw or break out like you see in Judo and jiu-jitsu. I also train in BJJ which uses the horse stance. Shuto is a strike to the neck and throat. Kickboxing doesn't have palm strikes either that are more effective in a real fight. Kickboxing is sport not self defense.
I began karate in 1981 and I’ve been trained by the very best out there in shotokan, Kato, Cattle,Shirai,Kase,Kawazoe,Kagawa. I’ve also spent 28 years policing and been attacked a number of times. Twice by people armed with knives . I’m here,never got hurt and stopped every criminal instantly and effectively, so why am I not dead.? According to you my karate is bullshit and doesn’t work. I’ve walked the walk pal and I reject your opinion. If you train correctly ,extremely hard and have courage and ferocity that’s the game changer. MMA has its weaknesses . You go to the ground out there and you’ll get kicked unconscious whilst you apply your fancy ground work. What works for real is fast one hit knock outs . I had a guy try and slice my neck open. I hit him and he was out like a light. As Sensei Takaguchi told me ‘ knife involved ,you be fast and hit hard’ . That man used to go and pick fights with yakuza gangsters with swords to test his speed and courage. There is stuff happening out there that is real and not some martial arts film. Geoff Thompson, Peter Constandine are all karate based fighters. You seriously believe those men are not capable. I’d stand alongside them before any Connor Macgregor. Bas Rutten is the real deal. Another karate forged fighter.
