TAEKWONDO - Old school vs modern taekwondo 1999 - 2022 highlights Tags: #Taekwondo #sports #viral #burhan #viralvideo #khabibnurmagomedov #championsleague #public #subscribe #fitness #old #motivation don't try this at home 🏡
I have to agree.. but as the form is now a sport.. safety of the participants are becoming important (reducing life changing injuries). Just like archery.. We practice to be more consistant and more accurate at long distance.. Imagine someone says, lets go back to the old ways.. Shooting longbows, flatbows, handme downs, and having your fingers chopped off by the enemy lol... (Tha'ts where UP YOURS came from.. Fun and accurate Fact)
Part of me feels like if you go back to old rules, it still won't look as good because the skill level increased. Usually when sports get more figured out, it becomes more boring. The flashy stuff doesn't work at the top level.
@@tgo007 Then you understand.. The OLD WAYS is not our goal.. We have enhanced,... we have predicted that old ways have better ways...PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!.. That's all it is.. Practice.. over and over and over again.. Till you hit your mark!
The old school taekwondo is more aggressive and I can understand that because there's no hit sensor back then so they really have to hit hard so the judges can hear the impact sound better. That's how you satisfy the judges. However, there are more room for misjudgment from the judges back then. Eventhough the hit is strong enough judges may not deemed it a score. Plus there are biases from judges too back then. Today with the hit sensor device biases from judges are drastically minimized. Score is now based on hit sensor device. The problem however today is that you don't have to hit hard to score. Just a little tap on the body armor and it's a score already. The one thing that's missing today is the martial art aspect of Taekwondo.
today modern taekwondo like a play a stupid idiotic game..not a fight...they are just a disabled person who FALL always on their asses...( old shools was real fighter...to hit to kill and more hard..) as example taekwondo is not real martial art...if u see ..come MUAY THAI !!!
@@DjUnknow808 all this like "old school was real" still is bs. martials arts are just sports and aren't actually practical(aside from a few) . they have always been just gimmicky
@@baconfacegamer792 MMA is also a Martial Art. Even the name of it "Mixed Martial Arts" already speak what it is. Karate have multiple forms. It's literally just like MMA. Especially Kudo : Kyokushin Karate, Judo, Jiu Jitsu and all other Japanese Martial Arts mixed in it.
When I still trained back in 2005-2009 WTF TKD still looked like a battle. Now a days its a total shame and I can´t believe the organization thinks it has become better. TKD needs to go out from Olympic so it can go back to the best days
I was looking at the recent women's WTF competition and thought this awful. Their arms are hanging and swinging around like wet noodles and there is not strength behind any of their hits.
One of the biggest differences to me, is that a lot of the new school guys seem to fall down after dam near every kick, you didn't see much of that back in the day. Also the old school TKD guys would launch major attacks with extreme power. It was like more of an actual fight and less of the sport aspect. And back then, it was difficult to obtain a point if the kick wanst hard enough.
@@SafeBurrito5465 I once punched my opponent unintentionally and I got a gam jeon. In that case isn't hand available in taekwondo? I mean, a straight punch is indeed allowed but only once. Tdk was a combat sport in which whole body was utilised. Even knee strikes were allowed back then. And now it's just a part of taegeuk 7.
@@SafeBurrito5465 Ofc in my version also hands are not banned. But usage of hands is highly restricted and can't punch more than twice at once. Irl u can't fight using hands. That's what I'm trynna say. Afterall, Ik you're a WTF practitioner too, and all our rules are same. But wtf is not very useful irf
Meu pai era professor faixa preta 2° Dan... Ele treinava a gente pra dar nocaute... Mas uma coisa que ele disse: até o nocaute tem muito preparo e estudo do adversário. Se o adversário vinha em nossa direção como esse cara veio, ele tomava um pé na cara que voltava o nocaute dele contra ele mesmo. A gente era pesado, mas extremamente rápidos.
Back in the day, our instructor’s emphasis was both speed & power. With protective equipments, competitors still get hurt pretty bad. I’m sorry but the TKD nowadays is more like tapping the right area of the gear to score a point. It seems that way to me, anyways.
Ata while it’s not as intense as some others I’d say, you get speed and power in some divisions. There is more heavy duty defensive gear so people tend to not pull their kicks.
Man having lived his life competitively I genuinely relate to this footage. However, I also expanded and learned many other combatives. Now looking back I see all of the holes and flaws, but I also see the genius and the things that most others would miss
@@zendraw3468 I think in Olympic Karate rules, if you KO your opponent you'll lose by disqualification. I'm not sure but from what I remember it's Karate.
@@mattmerced1148same, I did one and it was hard af. I was so used to do the point rule. We really had to kick hard for the judges to see that the kick did connect. But it was also kinda frustrating cause the judges won't see some of them and the point would not be given. It has its disadvantages too, some judges were extremely rigorous, other favored certain clubs and ignored rules violation to give them advantage. The electronic system avoids that, but the sensors are just to damn sensitive sometimes.
So interesting to see! Old WT style tkd is somewhat more reminiscent of my style of tkd (ITF) but there are so many differences! We also stopped used chest guards awhile ago so people are much less likely to tank those hits (and there are more restrictive rules about not hitting areas like the back). I haven't competed in a few years so I'm not sure what has changed, but it's really interesting hoe two arts that both call themselves taekwondo are so different. The biggest thing I see here is that modern WT style has very mobile arms. This does allow for more punches but I also see them swinging around sory or wildly during kicks. I would love to hear if there's a reason for this, since in ITF style we discourage this due to the openings it creates.
to my knowledge, sometimes the swing of the arms help create rotation as well as speed which helps a lot, in some matches it can also deceive the opponent. But yes I agree with you its really interesting to see the different styles of tkd
@@Legit_MrJoeSnow I see! That actually makes sense, since the sine wave in ITF taekwondo favors hip rotation, we have no need of arm swings. WTF taekwondo doesn't use sine wave, so I can see potential utility there if they rotate at the trunk instead of the hips.
the original tkd back in the 70s b4 it became a sport Nd when they used hands, legs, knees, elbows Nd legs. Yes tkd was a actual fighting killing sport until it sold its self to be a sport Nd changed to just legs
@@jayheredia6975 Ah to be clear, ITF style does still use hand strikes, elbows, and knees. I only meant that there was no particular need to use arms to generate torque since ours comes from hip rotation instead of chest rotation. I can't claim to know much about how the WTF does things, but ITF style has remained much like it was when General Choi made it.
I train ITF, and had an opportunity to compete recently, and i must that now it's mostly kicking, arms are becoming a bit less active than in the past (thats what my trainer says) so thats the main change recently.
Ah, the new debate: Taekwondo versus the modern "Kick for Points-Do." While the essence of Taekwondo embodies discipline, strength, and technique, it seems we've transitioned into an era where the art of scoring points takes precedence. It's as if we've shifted from the profound depth of a martial art to a high-octane game of tag - albeit with more style and flexibility. Let's not forget, though, both styles carry the spirit of Taekwondo at their core, each teaching us invaluable lessons in strategy, agility, and perseverance. Whether you're a purist or a points-chaser, the journey through the ranks of Taekwondo, or should we say, "Kick for Points-Do," offers a unique blend of tradition and innovation.
I remember walking into my first taekwondo tournament as a kid and seeing a kid crying walking out as blood gusheddd out his nose. Now taekwondo has gone soft. Glad I picked up some good skills and techniques and transitioned into boxing
The majority of the head shots are because a) they don’t block and b) they stand there with their hands down and don’t move off the line or attack and “get inside” to disrupt the opponent’s attack.
It would be nice if I was born in a time like that. Most martial arts have been so worn down unfortunately, weak mentality because people don't like to overcome to be able to take hard difficult and crushing work... That's one of the reasons I do Tae Kwon Do AND Wrestling, so I have better odds to defend myself and also to build my mentality because fortunatly Wrestling isn't very watered down depending on the style you do... I do the ITF style for Tae Kwon Do which uses hands. Could probs knock someone out who's not a pro fighter and all, or at least do enough harm he can no longer attack me... I love Tae Kwon Do but I'm jealous of when it was for people who wanted to be martial artists and FIGHTERS if need be, you can still be a fighter in Tae Kwon Do don't get me wrong, it's just not the same anymore which is very sad.
I fought TKD on an international level in the 80s and 90s. We had bruises all over our bodies, we were bloodied, broken fingers and toes were kind of normal. But we had fun AND we were a bunch of proud people. And now we are all sad to see what has happened to this fantastic martial art (which it ain't any more).
I was sparing with a guy that outweighed me by at least 50 lbs. He was a lower rank and had some toleration for the lower rank. But, this guy liked punching at my hands. I thought this is not boxing! With all his punches at my hands he proceeded to dislocate my little finger. Did I finch, did I go running to instructor crying? NO! I just got mad. So, the next time we were partnered, I proceeded to kick him in the face. I didn't think it was a hard kick, but he said "Stop! I am seeing stars."
Every sport evolves, although the version of TKD I learned in the early nineties onwards and how we trained, sparred and fought is, in comparison to how it is currently taught, at times at unrecognisable to me now. I recently started training again and I find the currently way it is taught feels sanitized if that makes any sense. It feels easier. Less raw. Less enjoyable as a result. Such is life I guess.
0:57 El rojo y el azul estaban casi a la par, el rojo con superioridad en técnica y el azul en su defensa, tanto que el rojo se desesperó. Pero aprovecho una abertura y alli el azul estuvo en desventaja
Old taekwondo style is way cooler. As a taekwondo player i can say that in new taekwondo there are so many rules and regulations which makes watching fights boring. We don't get that level of cool vibe in new style of tkd
Being aggressive is literally the big factor that wins you fight alongside techniques and experience. Hesitation in one slight moment means defeat. Control only for training and sparring, there's no place for that in competition or real fighting. Anyone who telling you otherwise is trying to sell you some philosophy instead of how to win fights
yeah, sure. You're right. I was training in different versions, like GTF, FTF and ITF. So, the modern taekwondo similar FTF, no hands, no techniques against weapon and so on. And yes, this is competitive taekwondo, but it's good too. Cause it very speedy.
levent tuncat and paul green both of them practiceing old school teakwondo try with lee dee hoon old shool is the best i am 4 moroccan champion from 1986 to 1989
¿Sigue valiendo cuando se tiran al piso? Terrible ejecución, me deja inhabilitado, pero le di la patada primero. Se resuelve todo en drop-kicks porque no bloquea nadie.
Now they are faster and lighter and because of that there is a lack of support to transfer more power, positions and forms back in the day were meant to create more power plus speed so they were more stable, now is mostly simply speed with less stability and power.
I just hate how back when I was doing it, it was looked down upon to gloat or try and show you think you got a point. I hate seeing after every few kicks the new guys have to take time out the fight to cheer themselves
2 things: in old school, their fists were still pretty useless most of the time and that’s a poor reflection of TRUE taekwondo. On the plus side, they truly launched their feet at their opponents with intent to do harm. I think that’s also important. Because at the end of the day, if you’re just playing tag, it’s not taekwondo in any way, shape or form.
@@carlosbaptista115nah, punches aren’t any more natural than kicks are. The only reason untrained people throw wild punches in fights is because they see fighters doing it in boxing or movies or whatever and think they can do it too. Our hands weren’t designed to be balled into fists to bludgeon an opponent, there’s way too many small bones and joints that can be easily broken or sprained. If we really wanna talk about what’s the most natural for humans, it’s definitely grappling. God gave us two arms and legs to run and swim. He gave us fingers so we could grab.
Idk about the actual big tournament event but for what I know an old-school used sound on the guard when you kick to get points, so no matter how hard you kick if there's no sound then you don't get a point which that kinda brutal b'coz even without sound you can knock out your opponent to get point/win
Its cool how many kicks are being used and how aggressive they are, also the grappling and holding. But damn they look like helicopters trying to head first ram into each other.
Idk. Watching the old videos they’re definitely putting a lot more power into it, I can see the argument that it used to be more of a “real” combat sport. But I also don’t see a lot of control in the old videos. They’re just flinging wild kicks at each other; sometimes they land will brutal impact. Sometimes they whiff and land flat on their asses. Seems like it should be somewhere in between
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