OLD TORO RECYCLER LAWN MOWER VS THE NEW TORO RECYCLER (Which Is Better?)

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OLD TORO RECYCLER LAWN MOWER VS THE NEW TORO RECYCLER (Which Is Better?).
I found this OLDER TORO RECYCLER for FREE at the curb. Its 10 Years Old and has a 149cc KOHLER ENGINE on top. But is it BETTER than a BRAND NEW 2024 TORO 21445 RECYCLER LAWNMOWER with a 150CC BRIGGS & STRATTON ENGINE. Both mowers can MULCH, BAG GRASS and SIDE DISCHARGE but what did TORO DO DIFFERENTLY over the years? In this video, I go over the FEATURES, CONSTRUCTION, and BUILD QUALITY of each mower. Did toro cut corners along the way and make some MISTAKES? LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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@GarageGear 5 дней назад

Here’s a LINK to the PRESSURIZED SPRAY CAN used in this video. Thank you for supporting the channel! 👍 👉 SPRAY CAN amzn.to/4eKhJpJ 👉 WD40 amzn.to/3XLbbBk

@mikeflowers874 4 дня назад

JB, it was a honor and pleasure to run into you the other day at the Depew post office. I recognized your voice as you spoke to the clerk and then recognized your face. I’m a subscriber to your channel and totally enjoy all the videos. They are to the point and informative and I have learned a lot from them. I have a Toro recycler mower I purchased 2 years ago. It has served me well so far but I wish changing oil would be an easier task.

@paulmysliborski4832 4 дня назад

I'm jealous of you. I'd love to meet Jared one day. He's one of the most honest dudes on YT.

@mikeflowers874 4 дня назад

@@paulmysliborski4832and he's as nice in person as on his videos. Took time to chat with me and didn't have to.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Thanks for being a cool fan and following along. It was awesome meeting you too, Mike! Always cool running into a fan of the channel! Does your mower have a low dipstick like the older model?

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Appreciate you, Paul! Someday we will meet!

@mikeflowers874 3 дня назад

@@GarageGearnope. Has the high dip stick. I guess I’ll have to get one of those pumps to suck out the old oil. It is what it is.

@BigDaddysGarage 3 дня назад

I love finding free mowers along the side of the road!

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@BigDaddysGarage if it’s free it’s for you right?!?! Have a good week flint!

@BigDaddysGarage 2 дня назад

@@GarageGear 👍😂

@spresc2180 4 дня назад

All I can say is that I still have my 06 Toro recycler personal pace mower, Tecunseh engine, rear wheel drive, and to this day starts on the 1st pull every time. Original deck very minor rust, original carburetor, wheels and cablesI. I did have to replace the RWD transmission last year. Every year the oil is changed, new filter and plug. Blade is sharpened /balanced about 5 or 6 times each growing season . Fuel is always treated with an ethanol fuel treatment. The underside is water port washed after each use and is run 5 minutes or more to dry the underside and stored out of the weather in a shed. You take care of your mower and it will give you years of loyal service.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Sure well! Yours will thank you after each season too!

@TecumsehRulesbcserk 5 дней назад

I’ve still got my 19 year old Toro recycler. The Tecumseh engine on it is still going strong and the deck doesn’t have a lick of rust on it even though most of the paint under it is gone just from wear. I just brought it to my plot of land in Bear Lake and I recently posted a video of it cutting down the brush. We will be returning there in 2 weeks to finally do our trip I was talking about.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@TecumsehRulesbcserk awesome BCSERK I’ll will check it out! Impressive it’s 19 years old and in good shape! 👍

@timraber6575 5 дней назад

The side discharge is better than the rear discharge. When I picked up my new Toro mower last year, I ended up getting two new chutes from Toro. I have the rear wheel drive and it works great.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@timraber6575 awesome Tim! Thanks for sharing!

@gospos1 15 часов назад

Shoot!....I live in Albany!...if I was closer I would have grabbed that, especially with your attention to detail, JB!...Paul

@liljoeii6091 4 дня назад

My Toro is 2 years old started acting funny and I thought maybe it was the coil so started down tearing it down to the flywheel cuz I wanted to check the key you're nut as loose I tighten it back up started right up no problem since it happened thank you for the video

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Awesome! Glad it was helpful for you. Enjoy the mow this season.

@swampyankee72 4 дня назад

When I first saw your oil suction pump, my 1st thought was: "What in the hell is JB doing with a plastic bong? 🤣

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@swampyankee72 hahahahah never thought of it that way until just know. I guess I’ll never look at it the same way again. Thanks for watching swampy !

@Zippernuts315 3 дня назад

I’ve been running that same older recycler since it first came out and it still runs great. Best thing I did to it along with replacing a number of other parts is added a fuel filter and shut off valve along with an hour meter/tach. Definitely agree with you JB about that oil fill placement, such a pain in the ass! I’ve tried a number of different blades on this mower but the best one for it I s actually the Toro atomic blade it comes with, who would’ve thought! I did add a big league striper to it and it does a great job, although hard to use the bagger with it. Love the channel, you’ve definitely helped me out with plenty of good advice and tips!

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@Zippernuts315 awesome zipper! Appreciate you sharing this information with the community! Thanks for the positive feedback! 👍

@joebarzo9935 5 дней назад

I do love a good Quagmire insert JB....and I do appreciate these comparisons. I too grab off the curb when I see something that could be of use. Nice to know I am not alone in that. Keep sharing your wisdom...keep sharing that humor. It is so very much appreciated on a wet Saturday AM. PS...never registered a mower ever!

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@joebarzo9935 JOE! Gotta keep it real in these videos right? Can’t let a good mower go to waste! Whether for profit or for purpose. Thanks for watching bud! I hardly ever register my newer mowers only because I end up selling them at the end of the season and leave that for the new owner. 👍 you’re in good company!

@joebarzo9935 4 дня назад

@@GarageGear - With the GarageGuy and GarageGal...the BEST company ever. Happy 4th to you.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@joebarzo9935 thanks, Joe! Appreciate you as always! Happy 4th of July to you and your family as well!

@joevoegeli4959 4 дня назад

I had a similar one to the older Toro, except it had the Briggs engine and stow ability. Nice mower and cut great, but I hated the drive bale. The front wheel drive sucked on the hill in my yard. Ended up grabbing a new Honda Hrx 217 vka from Home Depot for $699 after watching all your videos.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@joevoegeli4959 awesome Joe! Thanks for sharing and watching! 👍👍

@danielg.1955 4 дня назад

Hello, About a month ago I bought a Toro 22 recycler with a Kohler engine and fwd, for $150 at a estate sale, like new condition, it’s the best lawnmower I have ever owned. I don’t know much about all the details of which engine manufacturer is better, so I’m learning from your RU-vid channel. I really like my lawnmower.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@danielg.1955 awesome Daniel! You got it for a good price! Thanks for being a cool fan!

@6527dave 4 дня назад

A front wheel drive mower for me is a no go. If only I had a flat yard.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@6527dave totally get it my friend! Thanks for watching

@stevepelino5986 4 дня назад

Great video as always!! I’ve had the pleasure of using both of these and I completely agree with your assessment. They do seem to lack a little power, but slow and steady will get the job done. Thanks again!!! Go Bills

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@stevepelino5986 you got it! Thanks for watching! Go Bills!!!

@bigsonslawncare 4 дня назад

Give me the old any day ✔️💯💪🏾

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@bigsonslawncare ROCK ON Bigsons!

@bigsonslawncare 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear Absolutely 💪🏾

@thebird36 4 дня назад

Got the same old toro, with some rust on the bottom. Considering spraying rust converter and respraying the paint on the bottom

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Sounds like a decent idea! You’ll have to give us an update.

@AAa-qd8hb 5 дней назад

Update: ((optional add on) Toro part number 144-6377 traction assist handle kit) does fit all new Toro mowers that have the new baby carriage curved shape. IMO you could make your own Toro's BTAH (Black Traction Assist Handle) from 2 pieces of wood in ((L) shape) and some bolts and washers. Toro's BTAH converts Toro's PPM (Personal Pace Mowers) (which requires a person to push Toro's heavy mower forward before the self-propelled drive kicks in) to ((easily without effort) controlling Toro's self-propelled drive with just your fingers and hands without moving forward). This is needed on steep hills where you need the Toro mower to pull you and this powerful mower up the hill without any effort on your part. The powerful Toro mower can do this only with BTAH and not by Toro's PPM (extra exercise mode). Without BTAH you end up pushing this heavy Toro mower up the hill. Thank you for your help and understanding on this Toro (back breaking) mower issue.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@AAa-qd8hb thanks for sharing this

@robertknight4672 4 дня назад

I'm amazed it took so long for Toro to put a decent belt cover on there mowers. On any other self propell mower that's a standard feature.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Yeah it took them a while!

@justinkolan5500 4 дня назад

Thank you Jb for the video. You are awesome

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@justinkolan5500 appreciate you Justin! Thanks for being an awesome fan!

@johngrossbohlin7582 4 дня назад

I use the drain plug on the bottom of the engine on my Toro Super Recycler... I rest the entire mower on top of my large sturdy drain pan. It's a lot cleaner job doing it this way!

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@johngrossbohlin7582 I bet it is! Thanks for sharing John!

@kushpatel3363 4 дня назад

I just bought the toro 21445 and to me it works great, I also did do the oil change at the 30 minute mark. Just gotta take care of the mower now

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@kushpatel3363 smart move kush! Thanks for watching!

@BenNawrath 4 дня назад

I had an old recycler hand me down. The orange for the float bowl broke. Went looking for a seal kit, it was like 9 bucks. Whole new carb was around 12 bucks. Guess which one I got lol.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@BenNawrath I already know lol! Swapping these is cheap and easy! Have an awesome weekend Ben!

@BenNawrath 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear same to you bro

@brandon_burbach 5 дней назад

I'm slightly embarrassed to say I got a used 18V Ryobi mower for cheap. I sharpened the blade and can do my lawn in 3 batteries.🎉

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

How big is your yard?

@turtle522 5 дней назад

My friend received two chutes for some reason when he registered his 21462 last year. We tried one on my 2015 model 20333 and it worked. I enjoy using it better than my original side chute. We both think the rear works better. I almost always use discharge. I'm retired so mow often so can follow the 1/3 height rule but sometimes the grass is wet. Thanks for your videos and the folks who comment.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@turtle522 awesome turtle! Thanks of sharing this with the community! 👍👍

@neoretrophoto9198 4 дня назад

I have a 10-12 year old Toro it is build well - the new ones seem to be cheapened and have plastic toy mower feel to them.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Couldn’t agree more!

@electroddxful 4 дня назад

Great video JB. 👍🙏👍🙏

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Thanks a lot Ray! What is happening this weekend?

@StlrNtn95 4 дня назад

I have had the newer Toro for a few seasons. I use it to mow my half acre lot, and so far, it has not had any problems. Do I expect it to last forever, nope. I actually bought it because it did not have the personal pace stuff. I prefer the grab lever. Is the vortex a gimmick, probably, but it played no role in my purchase decision.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Thanks for sharing your input. Good for the community. Enjoy the mow this season!

@lunaticred1277 4 дня назад

Great comparison, Toro goes to fast, It drags you across the lawn. I slow mine down by pushing down on the handle which makes the front wheels spin more without getting enough traction. Which works fairly good but will probably wear front wheels out faster.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Thanks for the positive feedback. Yeah, it’s an odd problem to have on this mower.

@rogerfelty528 5 дней назад

Great video, I have a content idea…I have a 1995 toro super recycler and a 2012 Honda hrx, once fall come I only use my toro recycler because of how efficiently it mulches leaves(chops them up so fine you can not even see them). My Honda even with two blade barely chops them up, sometimes leaves are still whole after running them over. Maybe you could do a video about why this happens and what the benefits are of mulching leaves instead of raking, just a thought…and by the way, the toro starts first pull even after a long winter.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@rogerfelty528 thanks Roger! Appreciate the idea bud! Hold onto that toro! You got a gem there!

@harishdevi4344 5 дней назад

Hi JB. Great video as usual. Can you please do a review or your opinions on the Honda HRC 216 Commercial mower. I know they’re expensive and no longer produced , but I would still love to see your thoughts on this mower. Thanks so much and keep up the great work.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@harishdevi4344 I’ll see what I can do about getting one! Would like to try one out👍

@jaybooth4815 5 дней назад

Great comparison JB! Pretty nice find too! I’m thinking maybe a light coat of fluid film on the underside would help prevent any future rusting. Definitely like the side discharge better than rear discharge. Mowers today are not built to last. So they can sell you a new one. Really nice content and great editing! Getting some much needed rain! Was great seeing you again! Cheers buddy!

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@jaybooth4815 hey Jay! Totally agree bud! Some fluid film would help! Appreciate the positive feedback on the editing! Loving this rain! We got the better part of two inches! Awesome hanging out with you the other day! Got some good info coming out on your mower next week!

@jaybooth4815 3 дня назад

Looking forward to seeing it! Thanks again! Enjoy the rest of the weekend. Say hi the garage gal for me. Cheers my friend!

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@jaybooth4815 will do! Interested to see how your lawn mower video will turn out by the end of the week!

@jaybooth4815 3 дня назад

@@GarageGearI’m sure it will be great like all your videos!

@davebruins8623 5 дней назад

love the side by side comparison.....all in all....i'd rather have the older one. Vortex is a gimmick

@GarageGear 5 дней назад

@@davebruins8623 Rock On Dave! If there is any data on that vortex I would like to see it. What’s toro got to hide?

@kenjones4139 5 дней назад

Great video. For a hobby repair guy, i disagree on cleaning carburetors. Only because I happen to enjoy doing it. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries on the bad ones, but once clean and tuned correctly, they just seem to work better with the host engine. But all this effort only makes sense if you ha e the time to take, of course.

@GarageGear 5 дней назад

Don’t get me wrong Ken! I don’t mind cleaning carbs too. But these are probably the only engines I say they about. They get pretty finicky!

@kenjones4139 5 дней назад

Agreed JB! I think that's the part I actually like though - finding that last tiny blockage in a jet or passage... It can be pretty gratifying to make something run well again.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@kenjones4139 I too get a lot of satisfaction when that happens

@yankee1219 4 дня назад

Hey JB great video and great information as always! How does someone find out what kind of power equipment you might have for sale after you fix a piece you find?

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Thanks for the positive feedback. I usually post on Facebook Marketplace and sometimes on Instagram.

@yankee1219 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear awesome thanks for the information!

@Kevin_Hansen День назад

Hello! Big fan of your channel! Really enjoy watching and learning from your videos! I have not seen too many if any videos on husqvarna walk behind mowers? Are they not any good or you just not a fan of them?

@GarageGear День назад

@@Kevin_Hansen hey Kevin! It’s not that I’m not a fan of husqvarna mowers I just don’t see many of them in my area. They stopped making them a few years ago and I just don’t see them pop up all that much. I should try to find one to review. Appreciate you being a cool fan of the channel my friend!

@Kevin_Hansen День назад

@@GarageGear Awesome! Thanks for the reply! I’m in Jacksonville, FL, the Husqvarna AWD walk behind always seem to be on my local FB Marketplace, I don’t really know much about them, I think to myself, if they are so good, why so many for sale..lol. Thanks for the great content! I’ll look out for any future videos on Husqvarna if you come across any, maybe I can send one up to you…lol! Later!

@GarageGear 3 часа назад

@@Kevin_Hansen I’ll be keeping an eye out my friend! Thanks for being a cool fan!

@paulcastillo5235 4 дня назад

I have a Toro recycler that also is a personal pace machine. I was wondering, how easy it is to remove and replace the drag flap that it came with? It is not very old and it is already in pretty sorry shape.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Drag flaps on these are usually easy to pop out. Can bend them and pop in

@robertmailhos8159 5 дней назад

Right versus wrong on Toro Walk behind mower s

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@robertmailhos8159 thanks for watching Robert!

@robertmailhos8159 4 дня назад

@@GarageGear you are welcome garage gear

@i_Doc 4 дня назад

@GarageGear i have the older model. think it would be possible to replace the front wheels with those of the newer model?

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@i_Doc potentially could do that. Worth a shot.

@i_Doc 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear i'm more curious as if they'd fit or not. you may not have the info. thanks for the reply brother!

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@i_Doc I haven’t tried but I’ll look into it. Thanks for the idea

@Clearanceman2 5 дней назад

I think you covered this but do you think the old super recylcer is better than the new one? 2019 and older?

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@Clearanceman2 the older ones are definitely better. The fur the back you go the better they get pretty much 👍

@Clearanceman2 4 дня назад

@@GarageGear Thanks!

@smallblock412 5 дней назад

Not too much of a difference through the years between these 2. Same basic performance as well. I'll give the old one the win because the price was right 😉.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@smallblock412 price was definitely right Smallblock! Gave it some new life too. Enjoying your summer so far?

@smallblock412 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear absolutely, bring on the heat!

@matthewrozumialski8196 День назад

Hi! New viewer here! I am looking for a nice push mower for my new lawn. Should I look for an older toro recycler on Facebook? Like a late 90s or early 2000s? Should I buy new? Honda? Help lol

@GarageGear День назад

@@matthewrozumialski8196 hey Matthew if you’re good with repairing things go with those older toro. If not so much I would look at the Honda! Welcome to the tribe my friend!

@matthewrozumialski8196 День назад

@@GarageGear I have always love toros. I use to have a bigger yard and had a zero turn. But now a much smaller yard and want to find a nice push mower.

@user-bh2tr6pp5c 23 часа назад

This was just a different model of the old recycler the other ones have almost the same exact thing

@GarageGear 3 часа назад

@@user-bh2tr6pp5c thank you for sharing and watching Tracy👍

@The_Mace 5 дней назад

Older is definitely better!...says this old man. 😝🤣

@GarageGear 5 дней назад

Ten years old and she’s still ticking’! Didn’t you just turn 27 or 28 🤔???

@The_Mace 5 дней назад

@@GarageGear 🤣🤣🤣 Not sure where you heard that

@GarageGear 5 дней назад

@@The_Mace I got sources….

@The_Mace 5 дней назад

@@GarageGear Apparently, you need new sources 🤣

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@The_Mace their reliability lately hasn’t been the best but I’ve been working with them for a while so I give them the benefit of the doubt.

@ChuckP25. 4 дня назад

Hey JB - did you sell it? How much? Thumbs up from Iowa.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

Not yet. I have one more video to do on it. Will release it soon. Thanks for watching from Iowa!

@iowafox2206 5 дней назад

I actually just picked up one of those older toros with the Kohler engine free in my town in real good shape. Needs a new auto choke thing already ordered and I think the carburetor needs cleaned. I have a like/hate relationship with the Kohler engines these have. Easy and quiet but they have a fair share of issues as well. Eventually I might swap a older honda engine onto it if the Kohler doesn't last.

@GarageGear 4 дня назад

@@iowafox2206 nice iowafox! Like the idea of the older Honda engine! I would go for it and make it unstoppable!

@harryharry3193 5 дней назад

i like the recycler , but the drive to the wheels is always a problem.....fwd or rwd....especially those plastic gears on rwd wheels. yeah toro almost gets it right......again........cheaped out........

@GarageGear 5 дней назад

It’s how they roll Harry! 🤷‍♂️

@LL-mt2nz 4 дня назад

This line is a big box store line made to a certain price point. Having said that, these units are far better than the junk that’s out there in the same price bracket.

@harryharry3193 4 дня назад

@@LL-mt2nz EVERYTHING is made to a price point. But yes, mtd.murray.and most of the rest is lower grade garbage. Timemaster n recylcler owner here. I know these mowers

@paulmysliborski4832 4 дня назад

Vortex, ASS discharge, and washout ports are three biggest gimmicks going. TORO has shit the bed with the DIY community IMO. Even their TRX snow blower that was supposed to be the competitor to the Ariens RapidTrack was a bigger joke than Biden vs Trump on Thursday. TORO will never get one cent of my money ever again.

@GarageGear 3 дня назад

@@paulmysliborski4832 Toro has a long way to go to making us happy, Paul! What’s up for the rest of the weekend?

@paulmysliborski4832 3 дня назад

@@GarageGear Gonna grill! 🍔