Old World deserves way more visibility in the strategy space. If you’re okay with the more limited scope I think it’s probably the best “traditional” 4x since Civ 5 wrapped up.
The limited part is the best part imo, I’ve always hated leaving the classical era in civ and usually play with extended eras and other mods that prolong the game.
@@justanewskrub Honestly for me, if I'm staying as limited as the time areas, I'd prefer something like an old total war or paradox game, since I like having the real world history in it. For a 4x game (and honestly in general), I really like game progression to lead to drastic changes in gameplay, ie going from small land based armies in classical era civ to including planes, artillery, ships, nukes, etc in later eras, or going from just a few cultural units in AoW4, to powerful spells and mythic units.
The tribes are basically a cross between barbarians and city states and is probably the most anthropologically honest representation in any 4x game. Props to the devs for finding a compelling way to respect different cultures
@mad2403 agreed, it seems to understand the rock, paper, scissors element. Most of the games I've played with nothing but military domination in mind and it is very challenging.
This game is awesome. I had a jealous aunt assassinate my benevolent King and his daughter, leaving the 6 year old granddaughter as queen. The estranged uncle offered to be her king regent in her stead, as right before the previous king had died I had interceded the uncle on his behalf by being so pious. The new king regent tutored and trained the granddaughter in the ways of being a warrior, and she grew into a hero of the nation who took back the throne after finishing her training, threw the assassins in prison, and proceeded to dominate a military campaign against the invading hordes, overseeing the defeat of some 100+ units and leveling into an absolute force as a general on the battlefield, staying in power all the way to a victory.
Absolutely love Old World! So glad to see you come back to it! Old World and Against The Storm so close to each other is a blessing to us all, awesome games I love seeing you play.
If this turns into a series I’ve got a hot tip for utilizing builder leaders. Their special ability allows you to use multiple builders at once to speed up building infrastructure while only paying the orders cost for one builder. It’s a busted ability that turbo charges your economy. By far the most powerful leader archetype in my opinion.
I've played PC games for 30+ years and can honestly say Old World is one of the best games I've ever played. I don't believe it gets the recognition it deserves.
Welp, I bought Old World in early access ages ago and you’ve reinvigorated my interest. I’m going to fire it back up again with the upcoming DLC release. Cheers 🥃🥔
Among all the "Civ Killers" in the last years Old World is my favourite, i like how they merged civ with ck3. But i had problems with the military part of the game and it was kinda frustrating in the late to mid game
So good to see you promoting this gem! Most of the people I saw trying it played it completely wrong (ignoring character development, so getting much fewer resources; using untrained units against the enemy's general-led upgraded armies, and, consequently, getting obliterated) and complained that the game was unfair and bad... Thank you for properly explaining how this game works! A tip about leader development: getting one skill high is very valuable, but I also like to get all stats to 2, as many events require it. And in that case, you can get a good outcome instead of choosing from 2 bad ones.
Well you got me to pick up the dlc I hadn't got yet. And I'm probably grabbing this wonders dlc for my birthday. Do you have an affiliate link so I can at least send some back?
It is so customisable. Personally, I turn off the characters and events, not my thing. Warfare is better than any civ game, you need to attack (like in chess). AI can ambush and then retreat to heal. Roads, resources, district planning, limited orders, border expansion (with the colonies law), all excellent. The map is absolutely superb. I've played many 4x titles, this one is the best ... my current game ... large double desert map, scarce resources, no fog of war, no characters, 3 advanced multi-city AI empires, choose my faction after seeing the start location surrounded by sand ... incredible
Just heard of this one and am playing the demo but am worried the family and religion stuff will become too much? Thoughts from seasoned players? (I hate religion in civ)
Long time civ player and just tried old world recently. Honestly it is so much better than civ in almost every way. I hope civ 7 pulls a lot of the ideas that old world has introduced.
great game and video. I would love to watch some videos that had a lot of strategic depth in explaining the decisions to be made, rather than a sort of flow of consciousness. I'm yet to see a good strategy guide for this game. Also, 4K would be greatly appreciated!
Funfact. Rhamses was actually redhaired in real life or at least the description of him. To bad the game isnt more historical correct. Ive been looking for historical correct games since civ2. After that civ went downhill fast..
Have they addressed the major problems with the events and the whole constant demands from your "allies"? Because when I tried it, it was just non-stop trying to force me into wars stupid early before even had anything developed until it just outright forced me into wars. Not to mention when I played like 99% of the events were all just pick the least bad situation or which absolutely terrible situation you'd prefer to deal with followed almost immediately by another terrible situation caused by the 1st terrible decision you had to make that you had no way to avoid or prevent, followed by another. The game just felt like it's entire purpose was to force you to play how IT wanted you to play instead of how you wanted to play. All of the time dealing with a 5th Enemy (in your so-called "ally") that you couldn't get rid of or fight so they'd stop antagonizing you. Granted, that was quite a while ago that I played it. Was so disgusted with that "Do what we want, not what you want" overall game mechanic that I stopped keeping track of the game development. If those massive problems have been addressed, I will definitely have to give Old World another look.
@@yersiniapestis5237 Back in the early beta it wasn't a matter of skill. The game just flat out forced almost everything down your throat and was literally 90% bad events and choices between horrible options every 5 minutes, even if you were keeping the families and your foreign allies in positive relation values. A lot of the regular civ players/content creators were reporting similar negative experiences. It turned pretty much my entire group of civ friends entirely off the game. I remember Sulla literally just flat out quitting a game right in the middle of it while Soren was there watching his stream, because it was just infuriatingly punishing no matter what he did. I think his comments were something like "I want to enjoy this, but I can't because the game is trying to play me instead of letting me play the game." Again this was probably a year or two ago. The updates and DLC have improved a lot of elements of the game since those original beta days.
@@yersiniapestis5237 If you unironically believe that if someone playing back in the early beta period a year or two ago who had established positive relation values across the board with all families and foreign factions, had been building an appropriate amount of military and economic units, had built up their cities and expanded appropriately, had strong food, civic, orders, training and gold income relative to the game state, had good tech/civic progression relative to the game state, while also maintaining only positive traits on their ruler spouse, advisors/generals, and heirs... and with all of that still continued to receive 90%+ bad events and gets forced into war (with factions they again had maintained positive value relations with throughout the game) is a skill issue... I say to that "0/10, Good day" and tip my hat. I don't participate in continued conversations with obvious trolls.
@@OverworkedITGuy Look, all I can tell you is that objectively, the game is and has always been winnable under the vast majority of possible circumstances.
My main grip with the game is the historical era. Too small, not enough progression. Of course it s because it is a very small studio, so i get why they had to make this choice, but still a bummer. Otherwise the game sets new standards, especially on ui and info feedback. Other 4x needs to learn from this game, the game design is ahead of the competition.
I just I hadn't got it when it was an Epic exclusive. I play a bunch on Linux these days and this and Beyond the Storm are games I just don't want to buy again.
I love Old World. It fixes one of my biggest issues with Civ and a lot of other civ styled games; every run is different, even with the same faction. Other games, like Civ 5 and 6 always end up playing the same. Factions end up being the same every time, all that really changes is enemies you face and the land you're on. Old World's borderline Crusader Kings styled events makes every run through feel way more unique. Wish it got more recognition. Most people I've seen talk about just think it's Civ, play it like Civ and get mad that it's not Civ.
