We always assume our ancestors were ignorant and afraid. Our assumptions of history have been torn down repeatedly in my lifetime. Sailing is one thing they are way off base with ,in my opinion.
Yes some still have a problem with Polynesian's getting to the Americas despite them sailing most of the Pacific. Would not rule out the occasional trans Atlantic crossing either.
Our ancestors weren't stupid. Riddle me this, the Sumerians used the swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Hittites used the Swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Romans and ancient Greeks used the swastika, lion and Eagle symbol. The ancient Eygptians used the eagle symbol, The Phoenicians, Persians, Scythians, Celts, Germanic tribes, Vikings used the swastika symbol... how come some Native American tribes from the America's use the swastika and Eagle symbol (both single and double headed) just like the civilisations of the Mediterranean, if trans Atlantic travel in antiquity didn't occur? Why are the Chachapoya cloud warrior ruins of Peru so similar to the Castro culture aka celtic ruins of the Iberian Peninsula if trans Atlantic travel between the America's and the old world was impossible?
Sorry but that is not true, you are falling victim to people spreading fake conspiracy to make money, on youtube videos with fake history they will have advertisements to make them money from you and on sites like above top secret they make money also from you. Its all about money not giving you any truth.
*I LIVED ON A YACHT* on the Med for 3 years - you can get a GOOD sense of the direction from the type of wind. Hot and dusty - comes from the south east / Cold and damp - north east / cold and no gusting, like a fan constant - north. So Im sure they had good knowledge
I just knew some clown would try and make this about the goddamn bible. 🤣🤣 These kind of people always jump to conclusions before anything is confirmed.
@@jam1870utube I thought he was making a cutesy little joke related to the man's mention of the fact that there are somewhere around a million shipwrecks on Earth's sea floors. Observable facts versus goofy little quotes always win.
I love this stuff…but I believe that the conclusion that this ship was under intelligent navigation far away from shore is premature. The ship was lost at this spot - but how it was sunk here might also be BECAUSE it lost sight of the shoreline. What makes a ship go down? Storms, poor navigation, pirates, who knows? Exciting nonetheless.
Our ancestors weren't stupid. Riddle me this, the Sumerians used the swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Hittites used the Swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Romans and ancient Greeks used the swastika, lion and Eagle symbol. The ancient Eygptians used the eagle symbol, The Phoenicians, Persians, Scythians, Celts, Germanic tribes, Vikings used the swastika symbol... how come some Native American tribes from the America's use the swastika and Eagle symbol (both single and double headed) just like the civilisations of the Mediterranean, if trans Atlantic travel in antiquity didn't occur? Why are the Chachapoya cloud warrior ruins of Peru so similar to the Castro culture aka celtic ruins of the Iberian Peninsula if trans Atlantic travel between the America's and the old world was impossible?
Good point, the ship might have lost sight of land and got lost, went further an further out to sea without food or water and the crew died leaving the ship to drift until it sprang a leak or already had a leak and sunk. Also, many of these wooden ships were always leaking water by nature of wood so they had a person always throwing water out with a bucket but if they drifted out, had no food or water they might have become too weak to maintain the ship and it flooded while they were still alive but too weak to keep it going.
Simple, turn off your television. Look who owns the media corporations and you'll see who has Joe Biden in their back pocket. They're running this country, not him.
Think you might be wound a little tight there man. You're bringing up politics for no reason, while basically complaining that they make everything political?
Imagine all the treasures we have yet to find. To see something that lasted all these years. We get to look into the lives of the people who came before us- it’s amazing.
Lol, yeah they are. Although, he man said that they thought they followed the shore (which is what is known) and how this changes what we know. But, maybe this is why they followed the shore... so they don't end up like this ship deciding to not follow the shore.
Your assumption that modern "hi-tech" would constitute the same technologies as what the ancient hi tech theorists propose is as inane as the assumption that all ancient settlements would be found on present day dry land. which is exactly what archeology assumed to be factual up to 30 years ago despite the mountains of Geological evidence to the contrary...
Bronze age shipwreck one mile below the sea..? You mean it was one mile below the ocean waters... In solid rock. Well.. I don't think I'll believe you.
Could the location be that it was set off course due to foul weather (instead of their assumption that they were actually in navigation to a destination at the time they sunk)?
@@SomeGuy-hd4cn it was jut an observation. My motivation is that I am more and more questioning what science and experts tell us. I think this guy jumped on the wrong assumption too soon.
@@PlanetJimmer ok. Fair point. The mediteranian (spelling) is a closed sea, so it only makes sence sailors would realize going straight across works. However just getting straight across might not be anywhere your actual destination. Therefore they could have been lost. They could have been off course. They could have been dumb. My polite point was, it dosent matter. Speculation is the realm of ignorance, (Im not speaking of you, my friend.) so why bother?
Pretty sure if you have the mathematical & astronomical ability to construct the Great Pyramids then you probably know how to navigate across the Mediterranean without hugging the coast.
Of news wasn't deliberating trying to divide people using middle school recess politics, and sharing more things like this, maybe the temperature around would be lower. Way too much hate. On both sides.
I imagine it's Minoan or Greek and it was a vessel that was trading with the Canaanites, Philistines or one of the other populations. I doubt they were trading with Jews though. This ship wreck is from around the time that are supposed to have conquered canaan (1250 bc)
several years ago, Bob Ballard determined the fact that sailors left from Carthage directly across the Mediterranean towards Rome over 2000 years ago. Using a US Navy submarine, they began crossing the Mediterranean and in five days found five wrecks several thousand feet below the surface dating to those times.
That's 800 years before Plato and the Greeks. 1000 years before Alexander the Great (born 356 bce). Interesting they could navigate open waters, that was not safe or reliable until the 1600's.
You ever think about how we came to be like how did the very first human think, I know we have information passed down through our genes 🧬 and all but tha Tess still crazy we evolved into this world like everything is meant to be
Our ancestors weren't stupid. Riddle me this, the Sumerians used the swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Hittites used the Swastika, lion and double headed eagle symbol. The Romans and ancient Greeks used the swastika, lion and Eagle symbol. The ancient Eygptians used the eagle symbol, The Phoenicians, Persians, Scythians, Celts, Germanic tribes, Vikings used the swastika symbol... how come some Native American tribes from the America's use the swastika and Eagle symbol (both single and double headed) just like the civilisations of the Mediterranean, if trans Atlantic travel in antiquity didn't occur? Why are the Chachapoya cloud warrior ruins of Peru so similar to the Castro culture aka celtic ruins of the Iberian Peninsula if trans Atlantic travel between the America's and the old world was impossible?
And if a storm blew the ship far offshore and it sunk, there goes the stupid theory of great offshore navigation. The man himself states that it isn't the oldest ship, yet the ckickbait title states otherwise. Senseless!!!
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will doctor balard be asked to help with this will they call woodshall ocean ographic institute and ask for help to do the recovery of goods and mapping of the sea floor?
Remember that sea level may have been lower then, But no matter, the Polynesians sail great distances from any coast and still knew where they were going to.
Just wanted to make a point , he was talking about the ship sailing next to shore , but wy isn’t,t he talking about the fact that the shores were a lot closer to the finding spot cause off ice age etc etc ….. so prolly the ship sunk at shore …
What if it was just dragg d out that far into the sea from its course? Could that be why it was out so far and not because they were sailing out that far
Untrue! Not oldest! The Dokos shipwreck is up to 4724 years old -- up to almost 1500 years older than this! The Dokos wreck dates to between 2200 - 2700 BC, making it between 4224 - 4724 years old! This new wreck dates back to just 1276 BC, making it "only" 3300 years old. A difference of about 1000 - 1500 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokos_shipwreck
Fun fact: the trading sailors of antiquity were more likely to have been Weshesh, Pelishta, Peliset (Palestinian) or other seafaring tribes than the primarily pastoral Israeli-Judeans. Love this stuff..
@@cupotkaable Yes! Thank you. Perhaps for those that don’t know, the “Peleset” were NOT Palestinians (Palestinian people weren’t even called that or even in a group until a couple hundred years ago) they were the Philistines. Anyone that knows history, knows that being a Philistine does NOT have a positive connotation.
If you were an Minion captain then the islands position, and connections to trade routes unlike continental ports would mean deep sea sailing would be normal. There are Minion stamps showing sailing ships. Not worked by oars. Quite different philosophy.
Very relevant. ....... Some-one pointed this out earlier without going into details like you ( perhaps because he assumed this was common knowledge ). A Face-Book type with about three brain cells then rudely attacked him for saying it. 🙄
Interesting story, I love hearing about new discoveries. I have to add, it amazes me at how our historians believe our ancestors were incapable of regional navigation. The Med is no millpond, but let's get real about this. Many civilizations developed on the Mediterranean, and they had boats at first, and then ships. Over the course of generations, these people would learn that if you go far enough in a straight line you will hit land. Get blown off course by a storm, and if you manage to stay afloat and don't run aground, you will learn that there is land 'out there' (same end result). Does anyone really think that these people were too stupid to figure that out? Dangerous, difficult, risky? Yes, certainly. But somehow people tend to do dangerous, difficult and risky things repeatedly and somehow manage to get better at it over time. In my opinion, our ancestors have been desperately under estimated.
Do you think that the geography has changed in that area? 56 miles off shore now, but how was the landscape 3,300 years ago? Still an amazing find and I’d love to be part of the crew!
There was a device employed by the viking navigators amongst others which used the sun at midday to navigate, perhaps this technology is far older than we have been able to prove so far & played a part in Bronze age navigation?
Sea Peoples learnt naval trade linked up their economies and used an alliance system akin to NATO to destroy and overwhelm the Middle East. I guess the worlds breadbasket wasn't as important as Fishing the rest of the Mediterranean?
Plenty of people who don’t know mainstream theories. Instead of “changing theories” you could say confirms (other) theories. You’re excluding everyone who didn’t take this course in school, and so didn’t know what the original theory was to change. So what they hear is “scientists were wrong again”
When science is wrong, it's progress in science. Science should never hold an ego of wrong and right. That is a people thing, and that is the problem with covid
