After watching the Rose Anvil video on the common projects, I know the small advantages of the common projects are nothing but placebos because they cost so much
Sorry guys, at 2:16 I say Oliver Cabell has 7 pairs of eyelets, but it's 8 - two more than Common Projects. ✪ Also, check out my 10 Best Boots On the Market! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9kuHyyefNGE.html
Been Looking at the Oliver Cabell GAT's For a week to go with my ever growing collection of boots. I'm really happy you took a good look at these it made me a lot more confident to go ahead and get what I want. Considering a lot of more mainstream brands are starting to charge 120 bucks for fake leather sweatshop shoes paying 60 more bucks and getting real leather and real Italian materials seems more and more like the way to go!
Yeah the labor treatment is an overlooked reason for paying extra. You might like this article Jacob! stridewise.com/oliver-cabell-gat-vs-original-gat/
If you don't like the price, you can always go for the Phoenix, which has uppers 3-D printed from old water bottles. OC also offers nice ankle boots with stitch-down welts for around $200. Sewn in Spain.
Rose Anvil does a great teardown of the Common Projects sneaker and points out how they are incredibly overpriced and poorly made for what you are getting.
No white sneaker is worth $500. But if spending $500 on a pair of quality-wise mediocre white sneakers gives you some pleasure from the fact not everyone has the disposable income you do, then it is worth $500, mediocre quality notwithstanding.
Great video. I really appreciate all the on-feet shots. It helps a lot. I was especially worried about the area where the first pair of laces are at. In many shoes of these type the leather flares open.
I wasn't a fan of the 7 eyelets on the Low 1's. Same deal with the Beckett Simonon Reids. So, I was seriously considering the Koio Triple White Capris. They're cheaper than Common Projects, and I flat out like their look better. But then I remembered that I have a wife and kids, so I settled for the Beckett Simonons. 😅 $105 shipped. Just have to wait until August, but I won't be going anywhere for awhile anyway because of COVID-19.
If the Reids don’t work out for you, try the Greats Royale. They’ve been on sale between $80 and $107; usual retail is $178. Very comfortable sneaker. I couldn’t get the Reids to fit my wide feet after trying a few sizes.
Hey Nick. Hope you are doing well. Very nice review of these nice sneakers. I think it’s a tough call, but I think i would go with the Oliver Cabell. Having said that I probably would watch this video one more time before deciding which sneaker I would pick. Nice job, as always!
I love my white trainers but hard to justify buying anything over the price of Converse OX 🤔 however knowing me I would like to try out a more premium white trainer👌
I am confused between Koio vs Oliver Cabell, read so many negative reviews on TrustPilot on Oliver Cabell for their discomfort, especially vs Koio which doesn't have any break-in period. Could you recommend which one to go for between these two brands?
The price breakdown seems to be different when i check it now. Leather: $26.04, Lining: $8.12, Outsoles: $6.60, In-soles: $3.80, Cutting/Manufacturing/Quality Control: $34.88, Packaging: $3.96, Transit: $12.43, Duties: $5.36, Shipping: $11.50 why do you think this is?
Steven Jacob the prices for the materials fluctuate, last year the shoes were about 140 and they switched to new manufacturers and materials and they were 200$ when i bought a pair of GAT lows, they are going on sale again, honestly the shoes are still my favorite pair, they are made fairly well and comfortable after breaking in, check out the rose anvil cut down video
Another great video. Regarding the sizing, I know what I wear in sneakers and I know what I wear in leather boots/shoes, so would these size like regular sneakers (Nike, New Balance, etc) or would these size like my leather shoes (AE, Thursdays, etc)/boots (Thursdays, Nicks, etc)? Thanks man!
Thanks Frank! That's a cow jacket from Schott, I even made a wholllllle video about it here just for you ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V0uOo-9PbkY.html
Thank you for the video, just a question on sizing Oliver Cabell, if I am 39 in Common Projects, should I opt for 39 in Oliver Cabell as well? Thank you in advance.
Great video, great info; thx. I had posed this question to The Kavalier & The Modest Man & wanted to know your thots. I'm partial to textured/pebbled leathers & wondered how the sneakers from To Boot NY match up against these? Also, on the question of leathers, which would be better or more desirable between "full-grain tumbled calf leather", "Italian calf leather" & "Italian alpine deer-skin"?
Mate, I'm in Aus. Not too many OC's and CP's available here. A few days ago I saw some white minimalist RM William sneakers and was wondering what your thoughts are on them? Thank you.
yeah the squeaky reports came from when the shoe was made differently, different sole in a different country (Spain). But there's also more padding in the heel of Oliver Cabell.
Common projects are way better. Customer service at Olivier Cabell is horrible. I was dealing with Catherine. Wanted to return the item and exchange for smaller size. I needed to pay a return costs from Australia which is 30% of product price 😂plu a handling fee. It was delivered to them a week ago and when I followed up they told me to wait! Do not compare it to comon project where the customer service is very nice and helpful
Thanks for the video. I’m 69. What’s your opinion on older men wearing white sneakers? I like the look but hesitate because white sneakers are often seen more appropriate for the young guy. What do you think?
I've got a straight up Koio review coming out in the next couple of weeks, then I might compare! idk if I can offer anything really new on such a comparison but I might try :)
Here come rose anvil references... that video is flawed in both sneaker construction knowledge and leather selection. Nick actually researches why chrome tanning is used in sneakers as seen in this video.
True, but there's still no denying that CPs are overpriced for what they are, especially compared to competitors like these. I get that CPs have a slimmer toe box and were the pioneers of the white leather sneaker market, but upon release they were nowhere near as expensive as they are now.
Its amazing how much damage that Rose Anvil did to both the leather and footwear community. Pure misinformation that tricked many into buying shitty shoes
Hey Nick, Can you advise us if you know of any sneaker companies that have available WIDE outsoles that are in this category like Oliver Cabell and the like ? Margom doesn’t produce any. Hopefully one day they will.
Can someone tell me if the Oliver Cabell is a true white or is it a grayish or bluish white that some sneaker company calls it white even though it is not a true white.
@@TheColorfulPube the becket simonon uses better leather than thursday. the common project is not good. the oliver cabell however uses great materials.
@@TheColorfulPube not the beckett simonon. i paid 89 for those. i also got the greats royal, built quality and materials much better than thursday, and i got those for 135.
WOW, good eye! I didn't think they were popular enough to be spotted. Yep, it's cravar. I have a bunch of leather bags I'm planning to review but I wanted a leatherworker to check them out first and quarantine kind of kiboshed those plans. But expect leather bags in the future!
I would recommend watching Rose Anvil's video on the Common Projects. He cuts them in half and examines exactly what they are made of. They are definitely not worth anywhere near even a quarter of what they are charging.
rose anvils review kept saying how bad chrome tanned leather is even though veg tanned leather would look awful in white sneakers. Being honest it wasn't that good review.
Strong user, what he says is not as important as what he's showing by cutting it in half. You can see for yourself the material and construction quality and make your own decision whether it's worth the price or not. *It's not*
@@PT111111 That's a different point entirely. Rose Anvil is right in that CPs are extremely overpriced for what they charge for. That doesn't necessarily mean the materials CP uses are "wrong" or "bad". Like Nick said, virtually every leather sneaker maker uses chrome tanned leather. All of these CP competitors price their shoes at around $150-$250, and for that price chrome tanned leather is absolutely fine.
I'm so confused by your accent. It sounded like Aussie at times and then American. And I cringed every time you pronounced Le Marche (en français as opposed to in intaliano) but I see that someone has already commented on that. LOL! Can you comment on how much wear this particular pair of Oliver Cabell has endured? It looks slightly beat up. Thanks for the review!
Yeah I lived in France and defaulted to that pronunciation, my bad. One of 7 countries I've lived in, which is why my accent is messed up! These have endured as well as Common Projects, I've used shoe trees and this is what they look like after a couple of months.
I have both Greats and BS. David, I understand the design style of the greats being a turn off. I felt the same until I tried and purchased a pair. They look alot different in person. They look much better. I do have the white and gum sole. If willing to wait the BS are quality work for such a low price especially with their discounts.
I ordered the Oliver Cabell in size 12 and the laces are way too short. I went back and forth with their useless helpdesk who kept repeating the same line... that I don't need to lace them all the way to the top. I wish! That's not even my issue. Even if I lace them only to the second eyelet, I still don't have enough lace to properly tie them and that creates a ton of tension on the lace and shoe whenever I try to lace them. These laces will not last a month if I wear them with these tiny laces. Helpdesk didn't understand nor cared to understand. What a waste of $250. If you are taller than average, buy your shoes elsewhere.
I bought the Oliver Cabell Low 1... I absolutely hate them, complete waste of $200.. they feel like white cardboard boats with flat clunky outersole inside is flat no arch, the upper leather is thick and stiff a year later and several trys at breaking them in ...they just never "break-in" ... do not feel comfortable or pleasant to wear, still stiff, hard and heavy, kill your feet, if thats what you like they will probably last forever they are built like tanks and personally because I hardly ever want to actually wear them anymore...seriously I bought a pair of the cheapo Cole Haan white leather tennis sneakers on sale at friggin Amazon for $60 bucks I wear those all the time and like them better lol...live and learn!!...and oh yeah just one more thing to hate about them the back of the shoe is very, very low, whats up with that!?...heel slip sucks too.