Ollie jump experiments - finally managed to "float"

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My main problem with ollies is how to combine the jump with the "ollie motion" where you lift your front leg and "snap down" your back foot to pop the tail. I always lift my front foot too early, which will interrupt the jump, which in turn will make me push the tail into the ground and other bad things.
In this session I focus on trying to get a "floating feeling" while in the air. Towards the end of the session I manged to get the floating feeling by focusing on feeling where my shoulders are. I envision a jump as
crouch down
extend upper body and legs to jump
crouch in the air by folding upper body forward and pulling up knees towards chest
stay in this "compressed" position as long as possible to start "falling down" while you're still compressed
The last step is kind of new to me and something I learned from Mitchie at SkateIQ. He talks about it a lot since most people try to extend their legs way too early while up in the air. This pushes the board away from you and can also lead to a "stiff leg" landing.
I've been trying to learn how to ollie for 10 years. I've tested a million different things, but I've probably also tested some specific things a million times. Which can be bad, because if it's a bad thing it will become part of your muscle memory.

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@birdman7450 Месяц назад

When I started the Ollie, O didn’t have Mitchie Brusco’s storehouse of knowledge to help. You’re definitely following the right path. I’m pretty sure I watched every Ollie tutorial on RU-vid and tried nearly every hack and suggestion. I had a hell of a time preventing the board from turning front side. I could get it off the ground but it was always turning no matter what I did. When I came across Norman Woods video about tightening your trucks, everything changed. It didn’t completely fix it, but my Ollie’s got way better and the timing of the Ollie felt so much more natural. Depending on whether I’m riding transition or flat, I tighten and loosen my trucks accordingly. You’ll get there. Be patient. Visualize it. Feel it. Pop about 10,000 of them and you’ll get there.

Месяц назад

Thanks for the encouragement! It just feels like I'm doing something fundamentally wrong. I mean, it shouldn't take 10 years to learn something :-D Tightening the trucks is something I've never done, but I remember Mitchie mentioned the importance of keeping the board completely flat during the crouching, jumping and popping. I think there are two ways of achieving this, tightening the trucks or really focusing on keeping your feet completely flat. Or maybe it's a more active motion, where you should try to actively apply pressure at the right spot/spots on the board? After this session I remembered that Mitchie said that it's better to start by crouching just a little, since it's easier to get the timing right that way. If you crouch too far, it's very easy to lift the front leg too early, like I consistently do.

@birdman7450 Месяц назад

You’re right it shouldn’t take 10 years, but I will say it took me about 4 to get what I thought was a respectable Ollie. I think about 2 years were not nearly as productive as they could have been if I had tightened the trucks. It’s so tricky because you have to break it down into parts to learn it, but to do it, all the parts have to become one continuous movement. It’s just an Ollie. It isn’t crouch, balance, jump, keep feet flat, shoulders and hips parallel with the board, pull knees to chest, float, straighten legs, and bend knees to absorb landing. It’s a simple Ollie, which just so happens to be one of the most magical movements that the human body can perform. It’s going to be worth it when it clicks. You have the right teacher, and you are working hard. I can’t wait to see you post a nice floaty Ollie over a board or off a curb. It will happen!!!

Месяц назад

@@birdman7450 Ok, I definitely gonna try tightening my trucks and see what happens. Do you remember what you did during your two productive years? Did you just do lots of repetitions or did you intentionally try a lot of different things? I've always thought of the ollie has something you discover rather than something that people learn, since some people "get it" right away and other struggle for years. Many years ago I watched a guy on RU-vid doing amazing ollies sitting down on a bench. He was so enthusiastic and really tried to explain that it's just about foot motion. I watched that video many times, but it just looked like magic to me. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find it again. I have watched many ollie tutorials and the one common thing I see is that they pull up their knees really high. This is something Mitchie also talks a lot about, and not just for ollies but for... everything 😲 A lot of thing in skateboarding seems to be about getting your knees as close to your chest as possible, either by crouching or by pulling up the knees. Compressing your body... In fact, I see skateboarding as a combination of extending your body and compressing your body. When you get it right this can create a lot of amazing movements.

Месяц назад

I think I need to go back to doing this again ru-vid.comL2glVpO2JDA I've done this exercise MANY times, but as soon as I try to add more power to the jump i start messings things up. Doing these tiny hippie jumps and getting the front wheels off the ground feels great though. And sometimes, when I experiment on the timing of lifting the front foot I do get "another feeling" which feels more like an ollie.

@birdman7450 Месяц назад

During the 2 productive years, I just restarted the whole process, but each step was more fruitful because I removed the wobble of the loose trucks, it allowed my body to better understand what I was trying to make it do. I tried getting smaller controlled Ollies before I moved on to higher ones. Many, many, ollies over one board before I moved on to 2, and a ton more until I moved on to 3 boards. I would say I focused on a solid crouch and base to jump from and then the timing. Once the “jumping from a canoe” feeling was removed from the loose truck problem, the timing became more consistent and that made a huge difference as well. I do agree with you. The ollie is something you discover. Each failed attempt brushes away something that brings it into clearer focus.