You completely missed the most important event of this race: Nils Politt broke the world record for "the most applauded man coming out of the toilet", fun fact, he achieved this feat by going to relieve himself in the café of the movie Amélie
Van Aert Benoot and Suyven ride for Remco... All... The plan was to keep Van Aert in the wheel of VDP, and allow Remco to do whatever he feel was the best, wich mean huge attack or counter aroun 40=35km where he drop everyone on pace and finish solo. On belgian's side, that's what we were expecting, ang leggs and confidence were there. I review the race starting 72km, it was huge, just violent the way he wore everyone out.
Every team should be entitled to 3/4 riders, but each rider has to qualify to a certain standard i.e. x UCI points in last 2 years. That way it is equal opportunity for each country, but you don't have completely unqualified riders. It is madness that Carapaz doesn't ride because Ecuador only gets 1 rider when he would walk onto almost any other 3/4 rider team.
The problem is that they want the same amount in the mens and womens race. if you add certain qualifications, you either cut the amount even more of you need a very low barrier (and useless riders) because women cycling is non existent in many countries.
@@MrMattie725 I don't really see how the system I laid out would have any problem with being equal across men and women. You just set a different UCI points minimum to get roughly the same field size
I like that its inclusive of as many countries as possible despite those countries lacking riders above the continental level. But I agree that allocations were lacking this year. Have 140 riders like in Tokyo, and drop the idiotic rule that your TT rider need to ride the road race tol. I don't get the insistence on it being the equal amount of total riders for men and women
To be fair to cycling it's probably best to keep quiet on this. Most sports have a max of 3 from a single country per event, athletics, swimming etc. Also you have to consider the overall total limit on athletes in the games, around 11000, so any increase in one cycling event will need a corresponding decrease elsewhere. Any change to the program Is a huge political fight.
@@stephendelaney403 I think this is the issue, what other event has over 100 athletes competing? It is a lot to house in the Olympic village remember, that is why I suggested 3 person teams, but most countries having 3 people. Different countries having different number of athletes is so unfair in what is effectively a team sport. I don't think there is any other sport in the Olympics where that is the case.
it was funny to hear the dutch on eurosport saying that remco was not doing well becourse he was at back of the peloton)) 10 sec later he was on the way to get olympic champion )
In austrian tv Haller said that Alaphilippe let go of Laporte wheels in the last corner and blocked it off behind, i suspect that was why the sprint for third was over before it even started and seemed so weird
the origin of Remco's celebration is that American tennis player Ben Shelton did it as 'dialled in', when Djokovic beat Shelton at the US open he copied the celebration and it went viral
The problems isn't that the countries would not be able to field four riders for the mens race. The problem is that they wouldn't for the womens race and the mens race gets cut because we need the same amount of participants.
it's a bit like those public toilets with no urinals for men. I appreciate it's awful that women have to wait but there's no reason for men to also have to suffer
I am confused by the tactics of nations like Spain, USA or Australia. Why did they not try to get ahead of the big guns? If you don`t have a lead when you enter the final three hills, you will not win. Like this they delivered the win to the favourites. Great race by Madouas! Remco might have created the picture of his life time.
It really is ridiculous that the teams have different numbers of riders. It’s as if the organizers don’t understand the realities of bike racing at all. I’m not familiar with all the other sports at the Olympics, but I don’t think most sports change the rules just for Olympics. That seems strange and unfair/untrue to what the sport actually is outside of this one event.
Needs to race smarter to win more, but so fun to watch. Can always count on him to animate a race! Tough spot to be in with the strength of the top-5 guys.
Superb outing for Remco. This just shows how amazing Jan Ullrich was in Sydney 2000, pretty much doing the same thing save for Ekimov besting him to Silver and Armstrong to Bronze in the TT via tailwind.
RRRRREMCO to Madouas: C´mon man, do some pulling feck´s sake…what do you mean you can’t? Hanging for dear life? Oh c’moooooon it is easy…look…😂😂😂 With that distant approximation of a peloton, Remco won the moment he put 40 seconds into them. Nobody in the world except for a very well organized peloton can catch the kid once he ignites the afterburners.
Radios: Riders able to talk to each other. Those with a high cycling IQ and those who have done their homework will rise to the surface. Officials and riders able to communicate. This will allow for time gaps, course safety and mechs. Officials and team car able to communicate. This will alert the cars of crashes and mechs.
But officials mind than get overwhelmed by the communication requests. Or you need quite a lot of officials just ready to answer calls at any given time. Then it might be easier to have communication between DS and rider, but forbid tactical conversation, only situational updates (gaps, groups, which rider is where, mechs, food/water requests, ...). Have those conversation recorded and officials can see through these recorded transcript to check for breaches of the rule. But personally I jus don't see a need to change the radio thing at all. What really is the need for this chance? Riders still need to decide in the moment if they follow an attack or not, or attack themselves right at that moment or not etc.
to add to patrick and benji’s point about the radios: we (the viewers) have the time gaps. it’s not more entertaining to be an omniscient viewer watching the riders fumble around with missing information
Sure, it helped Remco that Pedersen came back from the flat tyre. But when the VanderPoel-Van Aert duo was joined by the Jorghenson-Laporte group, they were not driving full on anymore. After all, they could not catch the Pollit-Kung group. The Pedersen-Remco group joined later. I believe that Remco would have caught up with them even without the Pederson come back. He was just that strong. Actually it was because Remco could / did not follow the VanderPoel bomb, he was able to throw his own bomb on his terrain and win.
Enjoyed the race very much, enjoyed the podcast, too, and I already dislike the talk of "off season"🤣 I can't wait to see what Healy will accomplish. I hope he can do great things. I enjoy watching him. Thanks for the discussion on race radios. I think I'm on the side of it's ridiculous to eliminate them. I'll keep following the discussions with interest! Thanks, guys!
On the question of race radio ban: what’s to stop a team from working with a bike computer brand to come up with a headset system that pushes notifications from team car to riders mid-race? The headsets already sync with phones so I can read text messages on my ride. So something similar can give team alerts like, “gap to break is 7 mins”, “Yates in the break” or “Vinegaard crashed”.
I didnt dislike the no radios fpr this race apart from that it makes mechanicals more damaging. They could just have two buttons. A mech button and a "coming back for bidons/advice button"
@@MDP1702 nah they use their headsets a lot, even in the descents! If you listen to rider interviews they explain they use the map screen when they haven’t reccied a descent they look at the map screen to see if there’s a sharp corner coming up. IMO it’s more dangerous when they’re taking their hands off the bars to take clothing off like jackets and leg warmers etc.
Give the guy 5 seconds, and he's ribbedebie for good. How cool he used TDF to prepare the Olympics after his crash in Pays Basque and still finished top 3 without going fully in the red. In regards with the question, who is the most valuable rider? Well for the real cycling fans that watch cycling the entire year, it's Tadej, Remco and MVP, WVA (when not injured) and then only Vini. Only for the people that only know the TDF, Vini comes second. Tadej and Vini are, for now, the best climbers/grand tour riders in the world, Tadej, Remco and MVP are equally the best one day racers in the world as you have the best overall rider in the world, the best attacker in the world and the most explosive rider in the world. In regards with TT, Remco is by far the best. From all riders mentioned, Vini, is by far the least valuable as WVA, in top shape, can win classics and is a perfect team player.
Healy has no choice but to go from far. If he waits too long, Remco and Mathieu and Wout will always beat him. He just is not that explosive. And Remco is the better time trial rider. If Remco takes 5 meter on Healy he is gone. But I agree that Healy is one of strongest in the bunch.
Couldn’t help but think carapaz would have done some damage in the race. It’s all a bit silly that the numbers arnt fair. You have the reigning champ in peak form that’s not able to race with a good teammate. It’s ridiculous
I agree with the comment about the number of riders per team. That's just crazy. You give a *massive* advantage to the stronger countries. It makes no sense. As for no race radios, I think the rationale is to get rid of the breakaway math. I think it's also supposed to make it more difficult to know who is in the break. So *theoretically* this makes the break a more attractive move. You can potentially sneak a strong rider in there and the peloton can't time the claw back to within a few seconds. In practice, though, I suspect you're right that it just means that everybody wants to shut down the breakaway because you're always paranoid that something has gone very, very wrong. I do think that experimenting with various forms of it is important, though. Otherwise you *are* going to get teams firing up AI engines that are estimating all sorts of telemetry and where it becomes more of a numbers game. Limiting the amount of communication from the DS is worth looking at.
Every one on the edge after VanderPoel his explosion, including VanderPoel. Remco was wise not to follow that move, he knows when not to go in the red. After on his terrain, he knew he could come back.
I'm danish and totally agree. It didn't make sense with Bjerg on the front the first 170k. Mørkøv shouldn't have been there... there is a lot of other riders who could have done better. Danish was pretty fast outnumbered by Belgian and even Netherlands...
49:47 he could've misread a corner after they got off the standard circuit, it seems like he crashed about 5k from the finish, which would've been after the local circuit on the road towards the finish. After seeing the video, the corner was indeed very tricky. I think the organisation should be held accountable, because some of the fences were placed in a very dangerous spot and they were also placed wonky and inconsistently.
@@smeetsnoud1 The main problem with the Olympics is that there are great many dudes in the peloton who have absolutely no clue what is going on and many of them are at the level way lower than the real pro teams. So when someone like Remco takes the lead and puts distance-forget it, he is gone. Strade and Roubaix are quite different and soloing there is not like soloing in the Olympics, one has to be gooooooood. Like Pog or Mathieu good.
The ioc managed to take a team sport then eliminate team strategy leaving the TT specialist to TT his way to victory. I'm happy for Remco but there was no point I thought anyone else would win. There was no excitement
Such solo efforts also are done in other races, so it isn't just due to the small team sizes, though they might help. But it definitely wasn't a guarantee. Just look at the womens where is was tense untill the last minute.
Race radios. Agree its rubbish for them to be banned. What about a 4th option, the communication FROM the car is blocked at the concerning pinch points/dangerous bits. Riders still need to be able to communicate TO the cars incase of mechs/crashes. Then after the danger points the cars can communicate to riders again.
I don't understand why every nation is entitled to a team in the olympics. Thats not the case in other team sports. If you dont qualify you dont get to go.
@Patrick : bit of pipe dream, but I would donate a 100€ no problem to help fund a run from you at the LA olympics. Get an obscure citizenship such as Panama or something, go all out on training and get the f* in.
Pogie with remco then far behind Mvdp and vindegard Poggie still dident win 1 wk our EK ) Remco won them all excepet the EK road race where was second Poggie still need to do that ) and its not that pogie has bad team to help him. so 1 poggie with remco realy close . and Vindegard and Mvpd far behind those 2
