Omnath vs Rashmi vs Nymris vs Tymna/Kodama | CEDH Gameplay 

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Ca-... Cal?

"Last In, First Out" rule in MTG. Player A casts Nexus. Player B copies Nexus while it's on the stack. The stack is now, from oldest to newest, Player A Nexus then Player B Nexus. The newest item on the stack resolves, and Player B gets an extra turn added. Then Player A Nexus resolves, adding an extra turn for Player A. As the extra turn for Player A is the newest extra turn to resolve, Player A takes their extra turn first. Them Player B takes their extra turn. I believe the confusion comes from the idea that "Player B had their extra turn resolve first, so they get to take their extra turn first." That is not the case, though, as everything in the game always occurs from newest to oldest. Player A was the newest Player to get an extra turn, so they get their extra turn first. I hope that explanation helps.

It's in fact spelled out in the card, if you think about it. "Take an extra turn after this one." Player A casts Nexus, then B copies it. B's resolves first, so B takes an extra turn after this one (before the next regular turn). Then A's resolves, and they take an extra turn _after this one_ - that is, right away, before B's extra turn. It's the same as with extra steps and phases: they are added to the list of turns/phases/steps exactly where the effect says they are added. If it says "after X", it means right after that, before anything else that has already been added at that point.

But what cards would be cEDH playable that would be interesting?

@@evanczthehunter57 it goes without saying that lotus and the Moxen are not interesting. They’re broken and we know it. Power 9 for a reason. Here’s a list of what I’d like to see: Tolarian Academy (probably too good with dockside unbanned) Braids (as commander) Erayo (as commander) Gifts Ungiven Leovold (as commander) Panoptic Mirror Paradox Engine (the game is so different when this was around. What does it elevate from the lower tiers and what’s on top that gets so much faster) Prophet of Kruphix Recurring Nightmare Rofellos (as commander)

Yep! You’ll hear more on Monday!

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The most recently resolved extra turn effect is the one which will happen first in the case that multiple extra turn effects are floating in the same turn. Wandering Archaic's extra turn happened after Chad's because it created the copy on top of the original.

That is quite an unfortunate autocorrect/typo.

It turned an already established strategy (labman and jace) into a generic dimir+ wincon that is almost impossible to interact with for decks that lack U. Not hating on the card, but I don't see how it promotes diversity?

@@TTXFLR6 Well you just explained it. It's a generic wincon. Any deck that runs blue black can run that wincon (or just blue in general) so basically you can run any colour combination or commander in those colour identities. If you compare viable cEDH lists to before thoracle then to after thoracle, you'll notice that there are way more viable decks out there than before. And it's not just due to more viable commanders or cards being printed either (most still run the old staples).

​@@glacen I see it as the best wincon to run if your deck has UB (with very few exceptions), and the commander is mostly there as a different flavor of value. Now let's have a look at it from the other side, decks that don't play U. Those decks need to play niche cards to be able to reactively interact with the combo. At some point you will totally question your decision not to play blue simply because your deck can barely do anything against the combo even if it's "cEDH viable" or wathever. And this is because you never have the opportunity to interact with an almost unconditional "I win" line that happens on the stack. We can disagree but for me a wincon that is an auto-include and punishes opponent for not playing a specific color is meta warping and promotes homogenization. Interresting debate though but not on YT 😛 PS : I also play decks that run oracle consult.

@@TTXFLR6 I understand where you're coming from in regards to not running blue. However, I'd argue that decks that don't play U are basically in two camps half the time at high power cEDH, Stax or Turbo combo, and that it's not that those decks need U to interact with a Thoracle combo, it's the fact they try to rush out the game ASAP or slow it down to a crawl because anything that runs U regardless of the existence Thoracle can just interact with you on the stack, completely killing your chance of winning AND U generates a lot of card draw/card engine advantage so if you take too long without blocking stack interaction, you're gonna eat like 6 counters. It's certainly an interesting thought to see a non-thoracle meta. I think some channels have done games where they ban Thoracle wincons before.

The latest gameplay episode would like to disagree ngl