On attachment and detachment | J. Krishnamurti 

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He reads me like a book.

Exactly!

Well said!

that nothing more is the important ...

That's all. Perfectly so..

K is asking us to be deeply honest with ourselves.

so how does one detach exactly?

@@oc7445 if i had to guess you have invest yourself in something. You replace the attatchment with another one, probably a stronger one. The truth is we all want to have the cake ans eat too. We attatch because it supposedly makes our life easier and we detatch because it wasn't so. But we suffer because life is irreversible. We can't change that. We can only move on. I often find that 'God gives nuts to those that don't have teeth'. Life can be very counter-intuitive. Maybe the solution is to keep attatching yourself. The problem is that if you are doing it to detatch the attatchment feeling is not pure and so you may not have the desired effect. Only someone that truly believes can do it. But we are who we are. And we stuck with ourselves. Everyone wants to change. But to change personality means to change your body. Mind and body work in tandem. We are not that maleable. Nothing hurts more than trying. Change or don't change, but don't waste time and energy trying.

@@brain0nfire To detach it's just that you don't develop a sense of self to anything. Doesn't mean that you can't do or have anything and appreciate it, adore and enjoy it. Correct way to put it is non attachment. To be not attached, does not requires to abstain/being detached completely. Likewise you can drink alcohol and not be addicted to it for example... So, you can have a relationship or a luxury car or whatever and not be attached, meaning your sense of wholeness and your happiness doesn't depend on the presence or absense of those things. They are complementary factors that may add to your overall experience, but not necessities. If I have them great, if not it's alright.

@@oc7445 see clearly what attechment does to you and youre people. Attachment is an action, non attachment isnt. You have to do nothing but see what actually is and what attachment brings to you...when you see clearly the danger, the other can happen. Love

Don't become detached simply love without attachment

People can't hurt you only we do hurt our self he simply means that understand the attachment and its consequences then you the consequences is detachment not to start something or process for detachment from people or things detachment is the consequences when one's aware of there attachment. Why i said that no one can hurt you is only you gave them authorities if your needs and expectations lies on other then definitely your key you given to somebody.. only way to get rid of it is awareness and try not to expect from people.

Well he also talks about drugs and what effect it has on the psyche which is perfectly explained and he himself hadn't done any. Can you relate?

I believe he has experienced all these sorts of feelings and emotions, however he is very careful when speaking and at times says what is best for the moment.

You don't need to experience everything to know the consequences. You can observe what happens to people and analyze it.

Because human consciousness is a single entity that includes all emotions, desires, greed etc etc. He had known the root causes of all these without actually experiencing anything for himself.

I’ve never experienced poison but….🤔..I got a feeling it’s not good for me.

attachment is the ending of athads8f9chjs8hf

Attachment is the ending of attachment . Outside we find ourselves attached to things,people,ideas,beliefs etc . but when we move in we find the whole map clearly where all attachments end . So he says attachments is the ending of attachments . Upanishads end this by saying neti neti.

I think he meant to say Insight is the ending of attachment .

The idea that you want to end attachment, is also an attachment. So you have to leave the idea itself and you are left with pure observation.

@@manjushamishra5849 attachment cant be ending of attachment haha

@@sabanan2525 why?

@@nangotoman9429 you want something that is not you, which means you are not content with who you are alone. By wanting something else and welcoming it you will thereby grant it room in detriment of a part you reject and is in direct contradiction with the love object.

@@brain0nfire nicely described, thank you

Natalia Campos Here's the transcript: Question: Attachment brings about a kind of emotional exchange, a human warmth. This seems a fundamental need. Detachment produces coldness, lack of affection, a break in relationship. It can also deeply hurt others. Something seems to be wrong with this approach. What do you say? Attachment brings about a kind of emotional exchange, a human warmth. This seems a fundamental need. Detachment produces coldness, lack of affection, a break in relationship. It can also deeply hurt others. Something seems to be wrong with this approach. What do you say? I don’t have to say anything. (Laughter). I am attached to you. The word ‘attach’ means to cling, to hold - attaché - the feeling that you belong to somebody and that somebody belongs to you, to hold, to cling, to adhere, like a plaster - sorry! - all that is implied in that word. And the questioner says cultivating detachment breeds lack of affection, a coldness, a break in relationship; the cultivation of the opposite. Naturally it will. You understand? If I am attached to you, the audience, and I feel this attachment is dangerous because I know I will be unhappy if I don’t meet all of you and talk to all of you, which is my fulfilment, which is called attachment, then seeing the danger of that, depression when I don’t meet a large audience, if I meet two people and, you know, go through all that ugly business, and seeing all that I say I must cultivate detachment. So I must break from you, I must break my relationship if I have a wife or a husband, or a girl or boy, or whatever it is. So I gradually withdraw. And in this process of isolation I hurt others - right? - I hurt my wife or my father, I hurt lots of people, and so on. Now, is there - please listen - is there an opposite to attachment? If detachment is the opposite of attachment, that detachment is an idea, is a concept, is a conclusion that thought has brought about realising that attachment produces a lot of trouble, a lot of conflict, jealousy, anxiety and so on, so on. So thought says, by Jove, much better be detached. Detachment is a non-fact - right? - whereas attachment is a fact. I don’t know if you are following all this. Please don’t go to sleep. Another ten minutes or quarter of an hour keep awake and then you can go to sleep, or meditate afterwards. Look, the speaker has done this. Not attached to a thing - the house, the audience, the books, the speaking, people - he has been like that from childhood. So he is a freak, biological freak, so leave him alone. But we can see clearly that the fact and that which is not. Right? That which… When attachment is there, to cultivate detachment is a movement towards illusion, and in that illusion you become cold, because that is illusion, it isn’t reality, you become cold, hard, bitter, isolated, without any sense of affection. That is what we are all doing. We are all living in non-fact. So, can you face the fact that you are attached? It is not only to a person, to an idea, to a belief, to your own experiences - which is much more dangerous. Your own experience gives you such a sense of, you know, excitement, sense of being alive. So are you… are we aware that we are attached to something or other? And you may be attached to a furniture, a piece of furniture - it is old, polished, well kept, fifteenth century, and it is immensely valuable, and you are attached to it. See what happens. When you are attached to a piece of furniture, you are that furniture. Right? Yes, sir. Go into it. So, if one is aware that one is attached, and see all the consequences of that attachment - anxiety, lack of freedom, jealousy, anger, hatred - follow the whole consequences of human attachment to something or other. In that attachment to something there is safety, there is a sense of stability, a sense of being guarded, protected. And where there is being possessed and… possessor and the possessed, there must be jealousy, anxiety, fear, all the rest. Now, do you see the consequences of all that? Not the description of it but the actuality of it. If I am attached to you and that attachment takes place out of my loneliness, and that attachment and that loneliness says, I love you - you understand? - I feel a communication because you are also in the same position. Right? Two people clinging to each other out of their loneliness, out of their depression, out of their unhappiness, out of their - you know all the rest of it. So what happens? I am clinging not to you but to the idea. You follow? You understand what I am saying? So I am clinging to something which will help me to escape from myself. Right? Right, sirs? Don’t agree with me, just observe it. You are attached to your experience, an incident which has given you great excitement, a great sense of elation, a sense of power, a sense of safety, you cling to that. That experience - please listen to it, if you are interested - that experience which you have had, what is it? Either you have projected it - right? - you want some kind of experience and you will get it because that is what you want. And then that experience is registered in the mind and hold it. That is, something that is dead you are holding on to. Right? So what you are holding, and so that which you are holding which is dead, you also become dead. I wonder if you see all this. So if you see all this without any direction, without any motive, observe it, then you will see, if you observe, that insight shows the whole thing as a map. When once there is the insight, the thing disappears completely, you are not attached. You have been attached to this and let go and you are attached to something else. Attachment is the ending of attachment.

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J. Krishnamurti - Official Channel Thanks a lot ..k's philosohpy is really helping me to understand myself.such a treasure of words..

J. Krishnamurti - Official Channel If this “attachment is the ending of attachment” is quoted out of context doesn’t make sense. But even in the context ... So when one has insight, for him every attachment is an end in itself?

He said attachment is the ending of pain

Yes, man is always attached, being attached to the illusory world brings misery, realizing and being attached only to the one reality is bliss.

We are all born without attatchment, we discover attatchment as we learn and grow. One of the growing pains of the mind perhaps is the first experience of attatchment not as an idea but as a state of being, the first realization that something can escape you when you feel that you dont want it to.

From this early experience of some form of attatchment, the individual is met with a choice, the decision of which will play a defining role in the development of the person.

Well what if one says he had attachment but it vanished Would you do something then?

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