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Race and Racism Playlist: • Racism and Race
It is very easy to discount the experiences of other people, especially when our experiences are very different and our relationships with them may already be strained by prejudice. And yes, people on all sides are casting out in anger because we want someone or something to blame for recent tragedies. But this is not a simple issue, it will never be simple. But there are very clear data showing that the criminal justice system values Black Americans differently than the average American. And that is a problem that must be confronted.
Thank you to Ashley Ford, Ahsante Bean, and Nathan Zed for looking over this script for me.
SOURCES
Black people are 2.5xmore likely to be killed by police. And unarmed black people 6x times more likely to be killed by police than unarmed white people:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...
(in the incessant debate, claims that if you look into the data you see a very different story invariably cherry pick data.)
Black people more likely to get plea deals with prison sentences:
www.crf-usa.org/brown-v-board-...
A more granular study shows that Black people and Hispanics are more likely to have officers use force on them even when they are complying with law enforcement:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/w...
This study also found no difference in the use of lethal force, in the communities studied.
Black people face longer sentences for the same crimes in the same situations even when accounting for multiple violations, whether they had a public defender, their economic status, and whether they're on parole:
www.wsj.com/articles/SB1000142...
Police have difficult jobs and that some of the communities they are tasked with protecting are very dangerous. Many officers do not want to work in those communities, so it is difficult to find police officers to do that work. It is stressful work.
The fact that there is racial bias in the criminal justice system is not a condemnation of police. Police need to be obeyed and supported because laws are want make our society function. But there is racial bias and it should be admitted, confronted, and we should do our best to deal with it. Because our society has a belief that black lives matter less...which is why we stand and say Black Lives Matter.
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@taliesinbreen
@taliesinbreen 8 лет назад
When people say "Save the Whales" nobody shouts "what about pandas?" When people say "Let's fight to end HIV" nobody says "what about cancer?" In those situations everyone understands that focussing on one issue doesn't negate the importance of other issues. But when people say "Black Lives Matter" all of a sudden it's seen as exclusionary and divisive. Why is that?
@yarndoge3648
@yarndoge3648 8 лет назад
There are people trying to end aids and cancer.
@kirielbranson4843
@kirielbranson4843 8 лет назад
It isn't just with BLM, look at the thread here where there is some argument about whether women or men get raped more. Gamergate, gay rights, trans rights. It is rampant. If a group of people come out and try to get attention on an injustice they feel they have it seems like half the world has to jump in and make it about them or about something else. Why does every issue have to boil the ocean? Who cares if men or women get raped more? If men are upset about it, start talking about it. It isn't a contest. We don't have to just pick one. No one is making a priority list where your group has to be the most downtrodden and abused before anyone will do anything about it. Stop muddying up the water of your issue and the one you are contesting.....unless of course you really don't care about your own injustice and are just throwing that into the conversation to derail someone else...
@Tactical-hg7ov
@Tactical-hg7ov 8 лет назад
because the black lives matter group make it racist. the way they conduct themselves as a group is pathetic they don't want to hear anybody side but their own and it will out screen until you finally just give up they're allowed to get away with murder cough cough they incite murder on Cops why don't you look at what happened the night of the Dallas shootings in New York they chanted what do we want Dead Cops when do we want them now how can anybody support them. they're looking for an anarchist reason to rebell. even if the situation is made up in their minds they will balls to the wall go for it I have yet to see these people speak intelligently calmly without calling someone a racist wishing the pig dead it's sad actually that people defend the black lives matter group because you're defending a terrorist group to me that makes you very anti-American making you part of the problem not part of the solution
@HeatBombastic
@HeatBombastic 8 лет назад
Honestly, it's because the protestors for BLM are pretentious.
@dunsparceislife2156
@dunsparceislife2156 8 лет назад
Because there are organisations against Panda hunting etc. Whenever you propose a WhiteLivesMatter to the BlackLivesMatter, they will yell "RACIST" faster than you could imagine.
@puppylovergirl303
@puppylovergirl303 8 лет назад
Empathy is underrated and underemployed.
@hannahchessman
@hannahchessman 8 лет назад
I agree. :)
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish 8 лет назад
Empathy is fine, though if we could get people to stop having children they lack the means to care for, that would do a lot more to solve the problems we observe.
@Nahchuva
@Nahchuva 8 лет назад
+BobWidlefish if only we (specially poor communities) had decent sex ed and an available, comprehensive reproductive health system (yes, including abortion).
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish 8 лет назад
Nahchuva Schools do teach sex ed, though really the burden is on parents anyway. People are responsible for their own actions. The high rate of people having kids they can't take care of isn't because they lack the knowledge that sex is how kids get made. I think access to abortion services (etc) is helpful, too, though again the moral responsibility is with the individual people acting irresponsibly. People not taking responsibility for their own actions is a problem by itself, and something we shouldn't shy away from.
@puppylovergirl303
@puppylovergirl303 8 лет назад
+BobWidlefish what test should they have to pass? Who gets to decide? Are we going to start forcing abortions or sterilizations now? How does that even remotely relate to the importance of empathy?
@EthanSanchez
@EthanSanchez 8 лет назад
This is one of the first times I've ever seen a white man talk about BLM like this and it made me want to cry. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
Wow...thanks man...
@equivy
@equivy 8 лет назад
I feel exactly the same way.
@tarendubose7956
@tarendubose7956 8 лет назад
+Hank Chinaski smh all I can do is hope you can stop with the hatred
@tarendubose7956
@tarendubose7956 8 лет назад
I can see that your ways won't change. I'm going to leave you to being petty . Now I'm done with this.
@delaneyburton8971
@delaneyburton8971 8 лет назад
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@OG_Hera
@OG_Hera 8 лет назад
I just became black recently when I relocated to the united states! I know this a funny way to put it but where I am from, Africa that is, nobody really cares if you are black because we are mostly black! It is therefore of no significance there. Nobody ever points it out or tries to touch my hair... Here it is different though because people kept pointing it out or acting strangely around me until I realized that there is some sort of significance that is attached to the colour of my skin. It is honestly one of the most confusing experiences ever. I still have no clue how to wrap my head. I guess I have always been black, I just never realized it. Thanks for the video Hank. I watch you and John all the time. You helped me quite a bit with A&P.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
+Grace Owino super interesting...
@TedrewF
@TedrewF 8 лет назад
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@BorealSelfReliance
@BorealSelfReliance 8 лет назад
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@KEltoukhy1
@KEltoukhy1 8 лет назад
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@NicoleCraswellBooks
@NicoleCraswellBooks 8 лет назад
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@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
Hey! This is a complicated and difficult and controversial topic. Please be polite and civil in the comments. We will be removing confrontational or rude comments! Think of it like this, if you wouldn't say it while gathered with a few friends who disagree with you without losing said friends, don't say it here. Also, I made this video before the events in Nice and talked a little bit about how that made me feel and what I've been thinking about with regard to responding to current events over on hankschannel. If you want more info / sources on this video, that's in the description. EDIT: The way the RU-vid comment algorithm works, controversial topics that get heated debates going rise to the top. If you would like to see a more representative mix of comments, click on "Newest First" on the drop down menu above.
@nujumkey
@nujumkey 8 лет назад
too late
@chrisd6028
@chrisd6028 8 лет назад
This is a very good and powerful video. It means so much and everyone should watch it.
@loopdahoop4910
@loopdahoop4910 8 лет назад
here is my question to you guys. do you support black lives matter movement as a whole?
@LaurenJewel
@LaurenJewel 8 лет назад
so powerful, thank u so much💝
@pm79080
@pm79080 8 лет назад
= Censoring. "Rude" is only a matter of perspective and everyone has bias.
@Tystarr
@Tystarr 8 лет назад
I wish, I wish, I wish I didn't have to comment on this video. I was hoping people would listen to this with an open mind and really think about their privilege and the history of racism that this country is built on. But no, the comments are not swaying in that direction so because I am a black man in America I have to comment because my silence on this matter is way more damaging than the fear of upsetting someone today. That's the difference. You comment because you don't agree, I comment because I DO NOT WANT TO DIE. I want to live a full life just like you but I don't. There is a fear of the justice system because I am not treated the same as you. I'm just not. If I get killed tomorrow by cops there will be a whole discussion on why I deserved to die and that officer will keep his badge and paycheck while my mother will grieve the lost of her son. Don't talk to me about people being angry when you ignore the sole reason why we're not happy. Thank you Vlogbrothers for educating the masses on everything from science to politics. I applaud you for giving this matter the platform it deserves. I'm sure this won't be the last video about it but it's progress from generations not talking about it.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Thank you for commenting and lending us your perspective. I hope you're with us for a long, long time. Stay safe, best wishes and DFTBA.
@redhood9042
@redhood9042 8 лет назад
Kinda feel like the blm movement should direct there anger towards the black community.I mean if you worried about getting shot then your priority should be to end black on black violence.Your way more likely to be killed by another black man then any cop. Infact cops are your only protection against such a thing happening .Unless you want to protect yourself and add to the statistics basically continuing the cycle of b on b crime.
@Tystarr
@Tystarr 8 лет назад
Red Hood Everything you said was racist. I would explain why but I'm TIRED of explaining. If you don't want to educate yourself on facts there is nothing I can do for you and you are willfully being ignorant.
@redhood9042
@redhood9042 8 лет назад
Tystarr2k2 I disagree nothing i said was ignorant and is backed by numbers.And believe your the one who is uninformed or willfully being ignorant.But tbh it's sad to hear you say that you tired of explaining.And it's sad that it's come to a point were you feel that you always have 2.I don't feel sad because your black and feel the need to always have to speak out on racism.I feel that way because you're a human and shouldn't have 2.Am arab and muslim and hate that i always have to defend islam and arabs every time nut bag blows himself up.I hate that my latino friends have to speak out against dirt bags who treat them like thiefs and rapists.Or lbgt groups who constantly have to fight for even the most basic liberties.Thats why #alllivesmatter and although it's a phrase that was made up by some racist cunt.I think we should own it and embrace it.And not act as if the enemy is white black or brown .There are arab islamic terrorist I can't deny that just like you can't deny.That as a black man your more likely be shot by another black man.Before 9/11 the world never even spoke islam and terrorist in the same sentence.And i don't hold it against them for doing it now.Becase it's something that the muslim world should get rid of not by calling someone racist for speak the truth.But by activly weeding out the bad apples.Blm should do the same face it the black community it self built a image that the black man.Is different is scary and would kill.While not all are you can't deny that's whats put out there.Born and rasied in Nj in jersey city no less I seen it 1st hand but.I been in jordan for 3 years now and you should definitely.Come to the middle east and see , black men are recpected and no one sees color.And at the same time 0 black on black crime .No thug life culture no cop targets black men.Wonder why?Anyway long rant but i thought i would type for both of us.I know your tiered no need to respond .Best wishs and peace be upon you.
@thermitebanana
@thermitebanana 8 лет назад
Why is Tystarr's not the top comment?
@kylekrizizke6115
@kylekrizizke6115 8 лет назад
To everyone who is saying All Lives Matter: the Black Lives Matter movement is implying that all lives matter, but that black lives are treated like they aren't. The all lives matter movement should be on the same side, but it seems to be made by people who don't understand that rights to one group doesn't mean discrimination to another, especially if the "discriminated group" is the majority.
@sandralovesmusic15
@sandralovesmusic15 8 лет назад
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@AdrianRowan
@AdrianRowan 8 лет назад
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@Kaylad8528
@Kaylad8528 8 лет назад
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@CherylMcMinorrr
@CherylMcMinorrr 8 лет назад
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@Oliver.Danielle
@Oliver.Danielle 8 лет назад
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@superj1e2z6
@superj1e2z6 8 лет назад
Congrats nerdfighteria, the algorithm game just removed the most dreadful of comments.
@leahmih2835
@leahmih2835 8 лет назад
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@jules_2.0
@jules_2.0 8 лет назад
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@JoyLyte
@JoyLyte 8 лет назад
+ Woot! Good job guys let's keep it up!!
@Eden.H
@Eden.H 8 лет назад
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@joshuabauman667
@joshuabauman667 8 лет назад
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@DanishNerdess
@DanishNerdess 8 лет назад
As a white Scandinavian person I am not sure I even have the right to comment on this issue, but all I will say is that as far removed as I am both from the actual events and the cultural and historical factors that enter into it, I hear about and see the problems that non-white people face in America too often. I say "too often" because I have seen too many names as hashtags trending because another black person was killed by a police officer, I have read too many stories of these police officers not even being put through a trial, too many pictures and videos of families of dead people crying for justice from a system that I have seen fail them too often. It cuts me deep every time, and I can't believe I have to say "every time" about something like this when once is one too many. Stay strong, black Americans. Black Lives Matter. We will stand behind you and amplify your voice.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Thank you for sharing your perspective. Best wishes and DFTBA.
@TheAnonymmynona
@TheAnonymmynona 8 лет назад
i think it is a problem that in recent discussion there is a strong focus on the "experince" of x people and the "privilege" of x people wich leads to people like you thinig that they may not have the right to comment of course you have because for the validity of an argument it doesn't matter who makes it only if the basis is true and if the logic of the argumentation is corect and maby to a smal extent how it is formulated
@Sykdude
@Sykdude 8 лет назад
As a white Scandinavian, you don't have any room to discuss this. Continue living you nice predominantly white socialist Scandinavian life and don't worry about America's issues.
@DanishNerdess
@DanishNerdess 8 лет назад
+TheAnonymmynona The reason I say that is because I am conscious that I am speaking on a subject and a reality that doesn't affect me, all I know is what I see and read which I know may well be biased. I also don't want to pat myself on the back for being an ally or undermine the voices of people for whom this is a reality.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
***** Well said. Best wishes.
@BrianGuilfoos
@BrianGuilfoos 8 лет назад
Video has been up 16 minutes, and I'm already depressed at some of the comments. Well done, internet. Bravo.
@Ask-cm8pc
@Ask-cm8pc 8 лет назад
Oh no! people who disagree with me! My feeeelinggs
@BrianGuilfoos
@BrianGuilfoos 8 лет назад
Fourth of a dwarf Haughty and intellectual? Is it haughty and intellectual to expect people to be not-shitty?
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar 8 лет назад
Most humans are Monsters. The anomalies of Empathy, Compassion, and Complex thinking are not widespread.
@Teacuppe
@Teacuppe 8 лет назад
For what it's worth, I'm sure a bunch of us appreciate the mess you're having to try and clean up. Thanks and dftba
@mohammedjalloh7658
@mohammedjalloh7658 8 лет назад
Runt to safe space if you can't mind dissenting opinions. Most of the comments are for you anyway, which is saying something.
@Alicia-yk6ci
@Alicia-yk6ci 8 лет назад
The inadequacy of our ability to really understand the experiences of people who are not us is the fundamental problem of our species, I think.
@HomeWithMyBookshelf
@HomeWithMyBookshelf 8 лет назад
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@XYZ8901000
@XYZ8901000 8 лет назад
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@Goldfog
@Goldfog 8 лет назад
Yes, we lack empathy.
@MusicIsLife-uh4lo
@MusicIsLife-uh4lo 8 лет назад
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@MiloStewart
@MiloStewart 8 лет назад
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@poeven
@poeven 8 лет назад
In the words of John Green: "Imagine others complexly" It's my screen saver because it's relevant in pretty much every situation in life - especially one like this! Thanks for helping us do that, Hank.
@gephc4
@gephc4 8 лет назад
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@kendramiller9448
@kendramiller9448 8 лет назад
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@McGeek5192
@McGeek5192 8 лет назад
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@LoopyLemon8
@LoopyLemon8 8 лет назад
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@HannibalHanslaughter
@HannibalHanslaughter 8 лет назад
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@worldofhans
@worldofhans 8 лет назад
despite a 20 year age difference, one of my only goals in life is to become friends with Hank Green
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
Oh God I'm So Old...
@dr.zoidberg8666
@dr.zoidberg8666 8 лет назад
+vlogbrothers Perhaps you're 20 years younger than WorldOfHans :)
@jrt99b
@jrt99b 8 лет назад
+vlogbrothers Who knows, maybe they are 20 years your senior and they just use an old photo for their profile pic.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
Excellent point!
@LaurenJewel
@LaurenJewel 8 лет назад
actually same
@Mikaylap713
@Mikaylap713 8 лет назад
Hank for President! Or at least for Governor of Indiana since Mike Pence is done :)
@allisaurous_rex
@allisaurous_rex 8 лет назад
Well, Hank doesn't live in Indiana, but John does. Maybe we should give him a call.
@devinwarner4034
@devinwarner4034 8 лет назад
If trump isn't elected, Pence is still governor
@allisaurous_rex
@allisaurous_rex 8 лет назад
+devin warner No, he would have to campaign and be re-elected. He can't run both campaigns, and if he tries, he has widely negative reviews.
@Zecronym
@Zecronym 8 лет назад
+Allisaurous_Rex You know, with as much support as John and Hank have, I bet they could easily be elected into a political office should they want to be. I don't think either of them would though. :(
@matthias7733
@matthias7733 8 лет назад
i wish ha, I live in Indiana
@Acdcrulez5000
@Acdcrulez5000 8 лет назад
Recently, the BLM movement has been all over my personal social media. One post particularly said the following: "When we say Black Lives Matter, we aren't saying that only black lives matter or black lives matter more than others. We're saying that our lives matter as much as anyone else's." As a white male college student, I understand this. Maybe not fully, because I haven't had to live it. But I can imagine. And it isn't fair to them. So many people today are treated with less courtesy and even less equality. I fear that America will simply regress back into segregation, just as we were roughly 70 years ago. I just want everybody to know that you're loved. You're loved and respected and valued. These tragedies that innocent people have suffered should not dampen your spirit. The righteous will defend you as the agents of evil descend upon you. We as a species must stand together, else we will be the end of ourselves.
@Kaylad8528
@Kaylad8528 8 лет назад
I think this message is also coming from politicians, even ones on the "wrong side" like Paul Ryan, but their bases are still way radical, and they're battling their own constituents on the matter. =/
@chloekuvaja7466
@chloekuvaja7466 8 лет назад
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@MrsMagma7
@MrsMagma7 8 лет назад
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@mantasliutkus2605
@mantasliutkus2605 8 лет назад
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@eryginger246
@eryginger246 8 лет назад
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@NoahDaSlasher
@NoahDaSlasher 8 лет назад
Careful Hank. You're going to offend the privileged and the apathetic. Oh no.
@only20frickinletters
@only20frickinletters 8 лет назад
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@rancper
@rancper 8 лет назад
"The privileged", ugh, and I guess you are always on the ground fighting for the little man eh?
@mistersinister2043
@mistersinister2043 8 лет назад
+17inchcorkscrew There are no privileged. Only you pretending you know the life experiences of others and are some authority as to which race has it worse. You're a race baiter.
@mistersinister2043
@mistersinister2043 8 лет назад
***** Everyone has aspects of their lives that are easier than others. Stop acting like you know a person's life just because of their race.
@lookoutforchris
@lookoutforchris 8 лет назад
How do you offend the apathetic?
@ricecristi
@ricecristi 8 лет назад
It means everything to me, to have a white guy talking like this. Wow thank you 👊🏾💗
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Thanks for being here.
@thomaskarnick9539
@thomaskarnick9539 8 лет назад
Momentary sidebar- is it weird that when the fist emoji is white or tan I always saw it as metaphor ally sending someone a punch in the face but now when it's brown and in a slightly different context it's a motivational fist bump? Am I just a violent person?
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
thomas karnick I have no idea, but I don't know that it's a violent thing? It could just be an aesthetics thing? Or maybe some sort of unconscious bias? Either way, more motivational fist bumps, I think.
@Luckcat16
@Luckcat16 8 лет назад
There are those of us that are getting the message, I promise. I am not an authority on race, and neither is any other white person. There I said it. The secret is out, sorry to my fellow pasty brethren, but I think a good dose of humility is long overdue. You can't be an authority on something you had the privilege of not thinking about most of your life.
@dunsparceislife2156
@dunsparceislife2156 8 лет назад
Refer to him as a white guy more, pls. It's definitely racist to put such great emphasis on race.
@worldofhans
@worldofhans 8 лет назад
I'm not gonna lie, the amount of hatefully worded comments on this video is pretty alarming. I expected a better response from the people here, especially after you ended the video by simply asking people to listen. Did you decide against the moderators in the comments, or are there just too many rude comments for them to keep up with?
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark 8 лет назад
Mods are here. Personally I am erring on the side of leaving a comment up if it's expressing an opinion with a reasoned argument (and as long as there are no ad hominem attacks), even if it is an opinion that is differing from my own.
@hannahchessman
@hannahchessman 8 лет назад
I am finding it hard to decide what is acceptable to remove, and if they've made the top comments already then it feels too late. Or that maybe Hank should handle those... I'm not sure how other people are getting on with it. This is a very new feature! :\
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark 8 лет назад
Yes, and as some of the comments have pointed out, moderation is a big stick. We need to be careful not to suppress voices that don't necessarily align with us, so long as the conversation remains a constructive and thoughtful one.
@haleykendall8124
@haleykendall8124 8 лет назад
I agree with Ryan and Hannah. It's difficult. I am removing some of the top comments though if the conversation has just turned into a horrible argument.
@haleykendall8124
@haleykendall8124 8 лет назад
Also, we can't remove the responses to Hank's initial comment, so that space is a disaster.
@3Buffylover
@3Buffylover 8 лет назад
The problem with this "debate" is that it has some how become politically correct to blame "white" people or the "institutions" or the "police". There has been little discussion as to the black culture in the United States. We all agree that slavery was wrong. We seem to forget it was white people that fought to end slavery, it was a white person that wrote the emancipation proclamation, it was white people that wrote Amendments 13, 14 and 15., it was white people that over turned Jim Crow laws and passed the Civil Rights bills of the 1960s. Yes, of course, it was other white people that made all of that happen in the first place, but things have gotten better and better and better over the decades since civil rights. A black person can do ANYTHING he/she wants. They can achieve ANYTHING the rest of us can, and HAVE. There is no walk of life that we do not see black people being very successful in. It is about making the right choices. With freedom, black people had choices to make. Many of them simply made the wrong choices. I hear about some system set up, or ghettos set up and more, but an individual does not have to follow the mass of people. It is not white people that force black people to have so many children at such young ages out of a family structure. It is not white people forcing black men to drop out of school. It is not white people forcing 6.9% (black men)of the population to commit 50% of the murders. YES, we have a police problem in America. The police have been over stretched and many police officers do act like the are the law rather than enforcing it. Anyone in that position would become like that as power does corrupt. But it is not an overwhelming race problem. Black men have fought more against the police and police have a fear to respond in kind. The lack of respect of authority by black men contributes to this problem. CHANGE your culture and this problem will go away.
@MrGreenCheddar
@MrGreenCheddar 8 лет назад
Words NEVER to be understood by most in those parties involved. If you were to say the very same enlightened thing and be an influential black person you might be killed by other black people if not surely ostracized by the black community as a whole. You are not allowed to see this problem from an unbiased perspective in this country whether black or white. White people are also not allowed to be given credit for ANYTHING they have contributed towards the betterment of the black community. If you are a member of the black community you are not allowed to be apathetic to others outside that community and especially white people. NO ONE will talk of this fact nor mention it in any capacity even though as Hank, put it "It is something we all know of" It is truly sad how you and the hand full of people black or white, who obviously see that the emperor is wearing no cloths, will never be heard. \ BTW, I am black and I am scared not of the police but of ignorant people.
@epiclysmart
@epiclysmart 8 лет назад
White people did that because Black people couldn't. Black people couldn't have abolished slavery because they were the slaves. I agree that most white people aren't evil and neither are black people. Also, due to gerrymandered school districts, the black populace tends to receive the short end of our education system. This leads to them having the problems you described. Thank you for your opinion.
@knz730
@knz730 8 лет назад
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@3Buffylover
@3Buffylover 8 лет назад
I am a lawyer. 80% of my clients are black. I have spoken to THOUSANDS of black people about this. I also have been writing and researching for almost 5 years on "systemic racism". As mentioned there is no walk of life that a black person cannot be successful in. As such, there is no system in place to keep black people from achieving success, no matter what it is. Poverty is from the examples of the choices I gave before. The racial bias in the justice system stems from the way the black culture acts towards authority and that it takes prison to try and get black men to stop the bad behavior as opposed to probation that scares the white person to not break the law. It has to do with the lack of respect for authority in the black culture in the past 50 years. I won't address "priming" as this is a word made up like "micro aggressions" that do not have any true meaning. Liberal college students having too much time on their hands make these words up.What you are doing K NZ is buying into this false belief that an entire GROUP is destined to be something at birth simply because the color of their skin. But it is just WRONG. If you look at ANY poor people in any major country, they all have the same problems with poverty, education, law enforcement, etc. The problem is the choices that parents make for their kids and then the kids making bad choices as they grow up. The difference is that in those countries, the poor people are usually the exact same race, so they cannot cry racism. It is only in America that the cries of racism occur. But it is economic, not race.Let me reiterate...ANY black person can achieve ANYTHING. If the INDIVIDUAL makes the right choices. Why is it that I am the one that has complete faith in black people, while those in your camp make them helpless victims? Yet you say I am the one that finds black people scary.
@knz730
@knz730 8 лет назад
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@JustCallMeAnonymous
@JustCallMeAnonymous 8 лет назад
Just wanted to add that deleting rude or confrontational comments is not taking away your freedom of speech and it is not blocking opposing viewpoints. It is simply making it so a somewhat productive conversation can be had. You do not need to be insulting or aggressive to make your point.
@ctyoung16
@ctyoung16 8 лет назад
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@AdamDavis444
@AdamDavis444 8 лет назад
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@isabellerubyj
@isabellerubyj 8 лет назад
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@gossamernonsense6837
@gossamernonsense6837 8 лет назад
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@gossamernonsense6837
@gossamernonsense6837 8 лет назад
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@bsbarg
@bsbarg 8 лет назад
In a world of talkers, a person who listens is a really important one. This video is what I needed today. thanks!
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
That's a nice sentiment. Too bad RU-vid's comment algorithm will never promote it because it does not encourage heated debate!!
@thecynth3820
@thecynth3820 8 лет назад
I hope it does, so let's trick this thing
@tuckerprice9663
@tuckerprice9663 8 лет назад
Not unless we push it up together. Bump
@huycuongvu7111
@huycuongvu7111 8 лет назад
ummm I agree with Hank soo I'm just gonna blankly reply, for this cmt to become something.
@bsbarg
@bsbarg 8 лет назад
+vlogbrothers I have to say this. I was going to send you an email about this in the podcast, in response of one of the questions (I don't remember now) but it was about a person who couldn't stop reading hatred comments even in the nerdfighteria community. And I wanted to disagree. Because one of the reasons why I keep watching your videos and listening to your podcast is because I've finally found a place where people can talk and debate about things without being mean. I mean I know those comments exist but I think that the people here is people who I can talk to. And I think it's because of you guys. You have a big impact in this community so thank you again. This is from an Argentinean girl who lives in a country where everyone just shout things. That's also why I enjoy this platform. (sorry if I've made mistakes, I have english as a foreign language)
@cookiebandit18
@cookiebandit18 8 лет назад
This comment section is really disappointing to me. I was expecting a little less dogma, especially after you ended the video by asking people to listen.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
Yeah, well...I guess that's where we're at now...
@moonlady3000
@moonlady3000 8 лет назад
Don't despair. I'm sure someone heard you Hank.
@cookiebandit18
@cookiebandit18 8 лет назад
+vlogbrothers Every movement that matters faces a massive backlash. In my opinion, a lot of people wanna side with their society and claim things are perfect as they are. I agree with Hannah though, you guys have always put your best foot forward and tried to make a difference. You've been changing hearts and minds to this day.
@kevinpiala6258
@kevinpiala6258 8 лет назад
When talking to people, I often understand it under the following light. Their job in a conversation, as a person who has built up an understanding of the world, who has an ego - their job is to defend themselves. If you are trying to *argue* with someone, you are trying to remove every layer, every defense either logical or not. If you are trying to change the world though, you just need to be a voice. People are social, their voices reinforce. We can only speak our minds and hope it gradually changes the environment, or create works that will slowly change perspective by making people *desire* to view your side because of how beautifully you have presented it. People don't generally have revelations, they take steps alongside the rest of the world, whether they know it or not.
@cookiebandit18
@cookiebandit18 8 лет назад
+Kevin Piala That feels very true to life, including my own experience. Thank you for sharing.
@departed402
@departed402 8 лет назад
"Too often, we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions."
@oddrey52
@oddrey52 8 лет назад
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@scabiniful
@scabiniful 8 лет назад
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@mae073465
@mae073465 8 лет назад
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@louisarhodes3881
@louisarhodes3881 8 лет назад
As someone who is incredibly shy and does a lot of listening without talking, I would just like to put one comment in and say thank you Hank for your voice. It is appreciated xxx
@TedrewF
@TedrewF 8 лет назад
+ This ^^^^^^
@MK.5198
@MK.5198 8 лет назад
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@diadu6
@diadu6 8 лет назад
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@figls2345
@figls2345 8 лет назад
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@Kaylad8528
@Kaylad8528 8 лет назад
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@sicemdawgs47
@sicemdawgs47 8 лет назад
I'm not so much upset that Hank is a BLM apologist, I'm more upset that it's seen as ok to delete "controversial" and "rude" comments. How about an honest discussion with input allowed from all perspectives regardless of if they agree with you? Does that matter?
@hannahchessman
@hannahchessman 8 лет назад
I think you misunderstand the point of monitoring comments. It is not to remove opinions different than our own, which may be controversial and can spark good discussion. How can a blatantly rude, or racist, or hateful comment spark "honest" discussion? That, I believe, is impossible.
@lyonsmind
@lyonsmind 8 лет назад
exactly, "I'll delete your comment if you don't agree with me"
@tkdyo
@tkdyo 8 лет назад
He doesnt sound like an apologist to me. He isnt condoning the ridiculous things like the gay pride parade incident, he is just saying black people are being treated worse, and we do need to do something about it. BLM is just one expression of that.
@lyonsmind
@lyonsmind 8 лет назад
+tkdyo they aren't
@anderstaylor6694
@anderstaylor6694 8 лет назад
I think the comments that he will be deleting are ones that say something along the lines of "Disliked because Hank is a retarded sheep who wants those pigs shooting up our schools" (That sentence isn't near my thoughts, I just wanted to give an example of something hateful that could be written and I know that's not what you were thinking).
@pointlessvideos010
@pointlessvideos010 8 лет назад
Thank you for making a video about a topic a lot of youtubers dont talk about. Thank you for not just brushing off and ignoring whats happening in America right now, i love this so much
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 8 лет назад
It's hard to talk about BLM because of the disconnect between BLM's message and their actions. Everyone wants to support them, but then you look at what they've actually accomplished (blocking bridges, interrupting gay pride parades, causing riots) and you realize they done a lot more harm than good. But, if you dare criticize BLM for any of this, you get called racist. That's why most people would rather say as little as possible about BLM.
@simoputtonen2799
@simoputtonen2799 8 лет назад
+Miranox Most people criticise the actions of BLM and not the idea. They get called racists by people who think they are criticising the idea. I think this is the problem
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 8 лет назад
Simo Puttonen Shouting "racist" is an easy way to shut down discussion. The racism accusers have overused this tactic and it's starting to lose effectiveness. It's like the story of the boy who cried wolf.
@elaine-nm4fl
@elaine-nm4fl 8 лет назад
I'm glad he did it too...it's infuriating how many youtubers have brushed this off and have acted like it didn't matter
@Tweakingoff
@Tweakingoff 8 лет назад
+Miranox they do this things to get justice --no justice no peace
@Orlafis
@Orlafis 8 лет назад
Everytime someone tries to diminish the BLM with "All lives matter" fallacy I remember the book "Animal Farm" quote "All animals are equal, some more than others", of course all lives matter, but let's admit that we have a problem that makes black and hispanic people more likely to be killed because of misconceptions and misunderstandings? I mean a white boy gets a gun and kill dozens of black people in a church, the police negotiated with him and just arrested him for a trial, a black guy was having a stroke, the police officer shocks him and uses pepper spray in his face for not responding... a black guy was walking alone at night with his phone in his hand, gets shot by police who thought he was holding a gun... I'm not saying that the police officers did it with bad intentions, or that they deliberately are racist towards black and hispanic people, BUT let's admit that our culture marked that bias in us all, and in a situation like this due to this kind of cultural influence black and hispanic people are more likely to be misjudged by anyone, and that is a real problem in our society that needs to be fixed, I also understand that police officers have their lives on the line all the time my grandpa was a police deputy and he died in service and seeing your fellow officers dying in service must put you on edge thinking it could be you next time, but I also understand that people should not be killed for quick misjudgments and misunderstandings, specially due to racial prejudice.
@eddiesaltgrate5536
@eddiesaltgrate5536 8 лет назад
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@anewacounta
@anewacounta 8 лет назад
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@Katybug1337
@Katybug1337 8 лет назад
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@calvogel8710
@calvogel8710 8 лет назад
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@sparksbet
@sparksbet 8 лет назад
Don't forget Native American people. Their community is often overlooked in these discussions but has even worse statistics than the black community... it's honestly heartbreaking.
@MollyLoves77
@MollyLoves77 8 лет назад
From the words of Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina "Today I simply ask you this. Recognize that just because you do not feel the pain, the anguish of another, does not mean it does not exist. To ignore their struggles, our struggles, does not make them disappear, it simply leaves you blind and the American family very vulnerable. Some search so hard to explain away injustice that they are slowly wiping away who we are as a nation. But we must come together to fulfill what we all know is possible here: peace, love, and understanding. Fairness.”
@MollyLoves77
@MollyLoves77 8 лет назад
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@MiloStewart
@MiloStewart 8 лет назад
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@Pruncible
@Pruncible 8 лет назад
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@catbojangles
@catbojangles 8 лет назад
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@nicholasarthur5126
@nicholasarthur5126 8 лет назад
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@audenfinch1326
@audenfinch1326 8 лет назад
Can you guys make a video or do some sort of commentary on why the phrase "black lives matter" is important even though all lives matter? I'm tired of hearing BLM called a terrorist group and I think you would do a pretty good explanation of it.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
I'd make the case that this video does it, but perhaps does it in a way that's not as concrete as you would hope. Someone I was watching yesterday on YT suggested that a good work around, for trying to explain this phenomenon to people, is to start with "Black Lives Matter Too". Sometimes that is enough to shift people into a better position for understanding.
@blarsen5459
@blarsen5459 8 лет назад
Vi Hart made a video like that.
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar 8 лет назад
No offense but do you think it would matter? People who would be nice to convince, saw every argument a thousand times, and still don't give a shit. Rational arguments, on a large scale of people, are like Christmas ornaments: Nice, decorative, take a long time to craft, but otherwise hold no practical value. If rationality and arguments worked, we wouldn't be where we are now.
@audenfinch1326
@audenfinch1326 8 лет назад
+1234kalmar I like to imagine that it would, but I suppose it's naïve
@thomaskarnick9539
@thomaskarnick9539 8 лет назад
+1234kalmar I think you underestimate the persuasive ability of the hanklerfish. I was legit gonna vote for trump until I started watching this channel
@AiandConan02
@AiandConan02 8 лет назад
I don't normally leave comments, but the overwhelming amount of negativity is disheartening. Thank you, Hank. You're truly a bright spot.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Thanks for commenting.
@diadu6
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@ilovehistory2
@ilovehistory2 8 лет назад
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@nathanong
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@ALittleBitNadia
@ALittleBitNadia 8 лет назад
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@arielsteinsaltz1956
@arielsteinsaltz1956 8 лет назад
Growing up in my town, the fact that I was white and other people were not white didn't really mean anything. I knew racism had been a thing once, but it wasn't until I was at least 10 that I realized that in some places, it is still very much a thing. It shocked me that anyone could actually think the color of a person's skin made any difference as to who they were. The fact is that discriminating based on skin color is as stupid as discriminating based on eye color. And as long as society continues to marginalize this one group, it is important to make people aware that yes, these people do matter. It's not exclusionary. They're not saying that only black lives matter. They are saying that black lives matter. Which they do. If you're concerned that your group is not getting treated fairly, then go make your own hashtag.
@HomeWithMyBookshelf
@HomeWithMyBookshelf 8 лет назад
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@arielsteinsaltz1956
@arielsteinsaltz1956 8 лет назад
Airbornerock Yes, I am. Why?
@arielsteinsaltz1956
@arielsteinsaltz1956 8 лет назад
Airbornerock I share nothing in common with Europeans... except my DNA. And my very pale complexion. Also, why is calling myself non-white doing myself a favor?
@arielsteinsaltz1956
@arielsteinsaltz1956 8 лет назад
Airbornerock Judaism is a religion. I am descended from white Europeans who happen to be Jewish. And what do you mean that I'm making whites look bad? There's nothing wrong with white people, just like there's nothing wrong with people of any other race.
@markruffruffalo9923
@markruffruffalo9923 8 лет назад
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@fuliajulia
@fuliajulia 8 лет назад
@ those whining in the comments section; "The Freedom of Speech" means you can't be arrested for expressing your beliefs, it does not mean that anyone is obligated to facilitate your ranting.
@fadesblue
@fadesblue 8 лет назад
What annoys me about "all lives matter" is that all it does is try to cover up the fact that black people, and other POC are being treated as though their life doesn't matter. Obviously everyone's life matters, but right now, white peoples lives ARE being treated like they matter. We already know white people's lives matter! In ViHarts video about BLM, she talks about how when people say "all races to be united!" it really doesn't do anything. Being united is good, but it's an ideal, not a plan to end injustice. We need to actively stop racism, not cover up the struggles of black people by saying "we're all in this together, because all lives matter!"
@fadesblue
@fadesblue 8 лет назад
i made a typo, but you know what I meant
@fadesblue
@fadesblue 8 лет назад
thisjerksaguy 1. girl, calm down. take deep breaths. listen to some music. read a book. listen to some asmr. it can't be healthy to be that angry of a person. 2. i actually said in my original comment "Obviously everyone's life matters, but right now, white peoples lives ARE being treated like they matter. We already know white people's lives matter!" i'm not saying white people's lives don't matter... i'm white. why would i say my life doesn't matter???? 3. again, black people are not being treated like their lives matter, and we need to actually help them to have the same rights as white people, and do more than just say "all lives matter." all that "all lives matter" is doing is presenting what is an ideal instead of an actual plan to get black people the rights they deserve.
@AK4Uwolfen
@AK4Uwolfen 8 лет назад
Well being a minority I know that just because you think you're treated as if your life doesn't matter doesn't mean we think the same. I will never ever support the terrorist group called Black Lives Matter, and I won't ever fall into the bullshit institutionalized racism excuse.
@fadesblue
@fadesblue 8 лет назад
AK okay, i'm gonna make another bulleted list: 1. again, just calm yoself. be civil. 2. "all lives matter" doesn't do anything. and honestly, i'm less worried about how people label it, and more concerned about whether or not they're actually doing something to end injustice in our society. 3. why do you say that institutionalized racism isn't real?
@ShadowOfRahl
@ShadowOfRahl 8 лет назад
+Liam McFarland - To deny the reality of something takes away one's burden of responsibility. When a person isn't directly affected by something, they have less incentive in trying to understand it, less empathy to help those affected, thus they feel less reason to expend their own time and energy in creating solutions. This is why progress of any kind takes exponentially more time than it honestly should. One of mankind's worst qualities.
@Ferroes
@Ferroes 8 лет назад
here's a generic idea: #AllLivesMatterAndWillBeTreatedEqually
@nikemaniac6664
@nikemaniac6664 8 лет назад
In a perfect world. Not a world when people couldn't eat in the same restaurant just 60 years ago
@tompov227
@tompov227 8 лет назад
Video: Here are some facts that show how Black people are treated unequally You: EVYERONE IS TREATED EQUALLY HOW COME I DONT MATTER?? *crying*
@RowanMolloyPlus
@RowanMolloyPlus 8 лет назад
+Thomas P i feel this comment.
@tompov227
@tompov227 8 лет назад
***** Ok well good thing you have a strongly articulated well-cited refutation of his video.... oh wait no you don't COOL GUY!
@MrDoverfield
@MrDoverfield 8 лет назад
Saying let's treat everyone equally is the same as saying "HOW COME I DONT MATTER?? crying" What do you want people to treated different based on their skin color.
@mattcambridge158
@mattcambridge158 8 лет назад
As a white person, it's often hard to know what to do, because I want to be an ally - but I think you nailed it. Listen. That's the best thing we can do.
@MiloStewart
@MiloStewart 8 лет назад
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@Pruncible
@Pruncible 8 лет назад
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@nicholasarthur5126
@nicholasarthur5126 8 лет назад
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@MichelleHannaC
@MichelleHannaC 8 лет назад
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@Crystal14351
@Crystal14351 8 лет назад
Honest question here: how does bringing up black on black crime make police brutality any less of an issue?
@Crystal14351
@Crystal14351 8 лет назад
brandon kempke Then why is it only ever used to shut down blm?
@macthompson4543
@macthompson4543 8 лет назад
I think they're trying to say why even say #blacklivesmatter when a lot of black people kill other blacks everyday so it doesn't matter enough then but when it's a different race it's a huge issue. There are going to be corrupt things in the world and corrupt people but that doesn't mean everyone. Have you seen the actual video of the Alton shooting? Where he is resisting the cop and grabbing for an object (most likely a gun but hard to see).
@csquaredverbs
@csquaredverbs 8 лет назад
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@wyrdsworth
@wyrdsworth 8 лет назад
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@ThatBakedMacAndCheese
@ThatBakedMacAndCheese 8 лет назад
+Crystal143 systematic racism runs deep.
@paytonwasemiller2395
@paytonwasemiller2395 8 лет назад
I think in order to commence some change, the first thing to do is address white privilege and acknowledge that it is there whether someone "believes" it or not. Thank you for addressing such a sensitive issue in such a tasteful manner. DFTBA
@Tklbrookmead
@Tklbrookmead 8 лет назад
The problem with using white privilege as an argument is that is becoming less and less true. A study recently came out that said black women coming out of university in the US are doing far far better than white men or white women. I think people are becoming pretty annoyed at people constantly saying they have white privilege, when a lot of people don't. There are people from both races that have it bad. This argument is more nuanced than saying one race has it all and the other doesn't.
@FortuitusVideo
@FortuitusVideo 8 лет назад
+Tom Kavanagh You misunderstand white privilege. White privilege is living in a society where your ethnic group is the majority and the benefits that fall from that. Black people in Nigeria have white privilege but white people in Nigeria do not.
@paytonwasemiller2395
@paytonwasemiller2395 8 лет назад
+Tom Kavanagh I'd love to see the data and analysis of this study, however, I doubt you could produce an unbiased study if you tried. Just because there are a few white people who live in ghettos or are unemployed, doesn't mean white privilege isn't prevalent. I, as a 17-year -old white girl, wouldn't be scared for my life in a traffic stop. Someone of my age who happened to be a black male is much more likely to lose their life in the same situation. THAT is white privilege. I doubt you could honestly say you'd like to be treated the same way a black male of your age is treated on a day-to-day basis. And THAT is white privilege.
@blackmesa232323
@blackmesa232323 8 лет назад
White privilege? Never seen such a thing.
@FortuitusVideo
@FortuitusVideo 8 лет назад
+Payton Wasemiller Yeah, no Unarmed suspects are shot 3 percent of the time (based on data from 2015) no matter the race of the suspect. Your reasoning is suffering from the spotlight that the media places on black men getting shot by officers.
@mjjjermaine
@mjjjermaine 8 лет назад
Thank you for this video, as a black person it's really difficult when I express my frustrations and fears, and instead of sympathy and / or change I get the opposite. This video was really refreshing and Im glad you made it
@nps1bps
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@mademoisellesachaaa
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@LukeBeeman
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@Nickbox
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@sylviaodhner
@sylviaodhner 8 лет назад
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@lordcoyote2000
@lordcoyote2000 8 лет назад
Unrelated to the main topic but I really think the moderators are doing a great job. One thing I've always admired and I hope to have someday on my channel is a community of intelligent and thoughtful viewers. I've noticed this trend with those who I consider to be in the vlogbrothers solar system, e.g. elmify,lauren fairweather, and wheezywaiter.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Thank you. We're trying. Best wishes and DFTBA.
@dunsparceislife2156
@dunsparceislife2156 8 лет назад
Opinions should not be silenced. Opinions do not hurt people. Do not delete texts that you find offensive, it won't do anything other than show you not appreciating other peoples' rights to opinions.
@dunsparceislife2156
@dunsparceislife2156 8 лет назад
Also to the OP: are you seriously asking for an echo chamber on your channel? Your ideal comments are "intellectuals" who agree on points you make.
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark 8 лет назад
No one is silencing dissenting opinions. We're out here in the comments reminding people to be respectful. Because words can and do hurt people. We are silencing stupid comments like 'ur a liberal faggot.'
@DamianShaw86
@DamianShaw86 8 лет назад
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@marys.7713
@marys.7713 8 лет назад
Another thing that is frustrating to me is when I see people arguing about things they couldn't possibly understand without more research or people who have actually experienced the topic of their discussion (this again comes down to what you said, shouting rather than listening). Information easily get corrupted or misinterpreted over the internet so I find it helpful when I see something that seems unjust or out of place to think about it from the perspective of the person who is talking and how they may feel based on their own experiences. I think it's important and necessary to acknowledge that there are issues that you don't entirely understand without going through them and in these cases it is vital to just listen and absorb before sharing your opinions. Not everything warrants or requires a response. When I see people arguing when really they are just misunderstanding each other it's annoying but that's why you have to think about the meaning of words or movements and not take every word literally, but more as a concept, such as with the Black Lives Matter movement. The name is to bring awareness to lives being taken seemingly without any real cause other than a system that is against them from the moment of their birth, or even before because of their parents or grandparents. We don't need something promoting the importance of white lives because that is perceived as common sense to most everyone. Black LIves Matter is really promoting the fact that all lives should matter and I think people who are against the movement should focus more on the meaning rather than the name.
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@andwhynotgrant
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@anneTHEcaptain
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@KnThSelf2ThSelfBTrue
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@Ms888Red888
@Ms888Red888 8 лет назад
I teach at a school in an economically underprivileged area full of diversity, where 86% of the students speak English as a second language and where learning about self portraits includes showing students how to mix 29 different shades of brown. I teach several classes made up of new immigrants from war town countries and refugee camps. I am often the only white person in the room, the only native born Canadian, or the only woman not wearing a hijab. All this to say that I am aware of my privilege as a white middle class Canadian, and despite this and my position as the teacher, I learn just as much from my students as they do from me. We discuss their perspectives, world views and their very varied experiences almost daily and am constantly impressed by the respect and open mindedness they show each other. We all need to show the same respect to each other, and to remember that just because someone's experience is different than our own doesn't make it any less true.
@marthapasatiempo3672
@marthapasatiempo3672 8 лет назад
Wow, that must be a very enlightening experience. Thank you for this awesome comment
@graceissonerdlike
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@Skatergirl0213
@Skatergirl0213 8 лет назад
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@kristenr6385
@kristenr6385 8 лет назад
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@SuperAndrewlove
@SuperAndrewlove 8 лет назад
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@Ruby-jh8ei
@Ruby-jh8ei 8 лет назад
You make some of the best videos regarding subjects like this. I wish I knew what to do to make a change in this messed up world...
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Hank gave you a great place to start: listen. learn. grow. When you can, demand better for the people whose voices don't reach far enough. Maybe that's conversations with friends and family, maybe it's sharing videos of people of color, maybe it's writing the government representatives to tell them you want them to fix it. Best wishes and DFTBA.
@Ruby-jh8ei
@Ruby-jh8ei 8 лет назад
untappedinkwell Thank you for this comment. I love it when people can be supportive instead of hateful. I just sometimes feel so powerless because I'm still in highschool and no one seems to want to listen to a teenager. Other then family and friends that is. DFTBA
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Ruby C You're welcome. More people are listening than you think. I really hope, for your generation and the generations after yours, that we get there.
@Ruby-jh8ei
@Ruby-jh8ei 8 лет назад
untappedinkwell Thank you. So do I. I don't want to (maybe) raise children in a world like this one day. so I do really hope it changes.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Ruby C Here's hoping and doing our best to affect change. I don't want to raise kids in a world like this either. We can do better, and we will.
@summer6100
@summer6100 8 лет назад
I heard someone say something on the radio, Something like "There are no good cops. There are good people who are cops, but there are no good cops. The institution doesn't allow it." A big part of this problem is not with the individual officers (though I believe there are people who don't deserve that kind of power) but with the system that trains police and perpetuates this kind of action.
@jules_2.0
@jules_2.0 8 лет назад
Completely agree. A lot of this had to do with the training cops receive.
@AppleberrySmith
@AppleberrySmith 8 лет назад
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@wyrdsworth
@wyrdsworth 8 лет назад
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@Ekaekto
@Ekaekto 8 лет назад
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@sketchlee1856
@sketchlee1856 8 лет назад
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@seriouslythisisjust
@seriouslythisisjust 8 лет назад
Can I just say that there's a difference between a comment that expresses your opinion and a comment that blatantly attacks a group of people who are different from you? Every person I see who's complaining about Hank moderating the comments has the same argument: "Free speech wah wah stop censoring wah wah there's nothing wrong with being racist wah wah". If you are using offensive language and expressing yourself through hate speech, you are not sharing your opinion in a productive way. You are not furthering the conversation or providing a Devil's Advocate. You're being a poor excuse of a human being (let alone a Nerdfighter) and you deserve to be removed from the comment section.
@ChloeTGAP
@ChloeTGAP 8 лет назад
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@JessicaValdez11
@JessicaValdez11 8 лет назад
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@nps1bps
@nps1bps 8 лет назад
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@summer6100
@summer6100 8 лет назад
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@summer6100
@summer6100 8 лет назад
Never? Ever, in your life?
@jrt99b
@jrt99b 8 лет назад
Hank, I love you but I respectfully disagree with your concern about the different treatment of black people in this country. My dad was born in '59 and raised by a single mom alongside his brothers and sisters. He has worked as a locksmith for all of his adult life (it's a regular joke among us that he breaks into houses all day) and had many, many interactions with law enforcement. Both from working with my father and from the regular ebb and flow of life I have had a few dozen interactions with uniformed officers. I won't pretend that all of those interactions have been smooth but most of my experience of awkwardness has to do with me being an introvert. Social awkwardness has been my stock and trade for awhile. But, though I have worried about what I was going to say, I have never worried that a police officer would try to do me harm in any way, shape, or form. The cops, in my experience, are the good guys.
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
I'm glad that your community has excellent police and that you have had good experiences, that is very cool and also a relief to hear. But I'd also allow that other people in other places have different experiences.
@julianalbertoarcesanchez964
@julianalbertoarcesanchez964 8 лет назад
Lucky you.
@julissax5142
@julissax5142 8 лет назад
Saying this respectfully but that's not the case for everybody
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 8 лет назад
Most police officers and judges are the good guys, even the ones that tend to be more violent to black criminals or pass harsher sentences. This is a much more fundamental problem, having to do with the overall cultural perception of what constitutes a "shady" character, or a "trustworthy" person. The societal bias that exists is one rooted in intuition, which makes it exceptionally difficult to fix.
@alrobles7610
@alrobles7610 8 лет назад
+Julissa Xajil your right. I feel this topic can be very personal and i can see people take this type of commentary a little too personally. (if you know what i mean) Meaning that you can have a great experience or even a just okay one, while someone else is having a horrible one. And its not a bad thing to accept its truth.
@RC-1290
@RC-1290 8 лет назад
I've noticed with movement names like "Black Lives Matter" and "Feminism", that the names end up causing a lot of discussion, in stead of the thought they try to convey. Even from people who agree with the sentiment that the movement is trying to convey. I think it's hard to name a counter movement (that term might have a different meaning though... I mean a movement that aims to address an imbalance) without that name making people disagree with you, even though you find similar things important. "I'm for equality, which isn't here, so let's promote the side that needs help", -"Boooh, you say you want equality, but in stead you're glorifying one side". Maybe we should just number the movement so that people are forced to look up what they are supposed to stand for, in stead of giving cognitive bias time to react to the name.
@dwood2001
@dwood2001 8 лет назад
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@XplosivGirl
@XplosivGirl 8 лет назад
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@themonkeyprincegaming6241
@themonkeyprincegaming6241 8 лет назад
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@themonkeyprincegaming6241
@themonkeyprincegaming6241 8 лет назад
The problem with numbering it is that then it can get really hard to remember all the specific numbers and what they correspond to, but as you said the problem with names is that it means people make up their mind about you before you even speak. It also has to do with the fact that the larger a group is, the more the ideals will vary within that group.
@RC-1290
@RC-1290 8 лет назад
TheMonkeyPrince Gaming Good points. Usually I try to get around this by just pretending I have a unique stance that cannot possibly be encapsulated by a single title.
@NeneNaturally
@NeneNaturally 8 лет назад
Thanks for this video. However reading comments is disheartening - I should stop. It's funny how when soldiers experience atrocities in war zones, we can understand how they attain post traumatic stress disorder. We empathize. We can still see their humanity. But take a black child, raise them in underrepresented communities with lack of fair education, food and housing. Condition them to feel inferior because no positive imagery on the media looks like him. Arrest his father, uncles, and brothers for minor drug offenses. He, through no fault of his own lives his entire life in a concrete jungle. Police raid his home and instill fear in him. Stop him, frisk him, just for being in a brown skin suit. He's sent school malnourished on carbs and sugar -labeled ADHD. Kicked out -arrested on petty crimes - police quotas. How can we not empathize with this little boy? How can we explain Track Palin's crimes on PTSD, & ignore what black communities trauma & reaction to it?
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
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@makenziepohl2098
@makenziepohl2098 8 лет назад
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@MK.5198
@MK.5198 8 лет назад
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@TheErinMunroe
@TheErinMunroe 8 лет назад
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@TedrewF
@TedrewF 8 лет назад
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@yuvalne
@yuvalne 3 года назад
The thing that I hate the most is that this video is still relevant, and probably will still be relevant for a long time.
@iloveeveryone8611
@iloveeveryone8611 Год назад
It's mostly lies. You have been deceived
@BaloonBoy7
@BaloonBoy7 Год назад
@@iloveeveryone8611 Lies such as what
@k0pstl939
@k0pstl939 Год назад
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@wyattshelley5483
@wyattshelley5483 8 лет назад
I feel like the most racist people here are the people in BLM or any racial group that blindly assign race to certain issues. If you want to solve problems stop bringing up race and trying to fix it. It all comes down to who you are as a person. We should examine and try to fix what's wrong with the people in certain communities instead of just shouting racism as the problem. And yes I understand not all people do this, but if we won't to end racism we need to stop identifying race as a factor and look at the what these people are actually doing.
@wyattshelley5483
@wyattshelley5483 8 лет назад
I wanted to say want when I said won't btw
@blackmesa232323
@blackmesa232323 8 лет назад
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@dumamou
@dumamou 8 лет назад
I wish it were so...but its not. There is a "second religion" in the United States called racism. Its chief tenet is that there are things called "races" and that one is the correct one to be and the rest are just not correct. Its usually, though not always, color coded. Its a mythology that has dogged the history of this country and assigned an idea that is unjust - that those not born white are convicted from birth, and it does not matter what they do, they are convicts. If at any time horrible things are done to them by the law, that is only justice. How do I know this? My father was black. His mother was white. I got the white, and became one of the privaleged. At first I lived in Mexico where my father had moved to in his youth. In Mexico its different. your color is just a descriptive of you. But then we came to the U S when I was 10 years old and I found things very different. We moved back in 1957, when Jim Crow was still king. After many years SOME things got better, but the myth of the convicted colors remained. I had rights and privelages that my parents and my brothers never had. I was given the benefit of the doubt just because my skin was what the U S myth said was correct. I hope some day this ends, because my children and grandchildren are brown and black (white, it seems does not seem to last very long as a genetic trait) and I want them in Country where it does not matter.
@Bree8tiveBEing
@Bree8tiveBEing 8 лет назад
Thanks for being willing to share your thoughts and opinions. Everyone is needed in this conversation, if we want things to get better. I have to point out that your argument, to ignore the root cause of a problem, would be equivalent to a doctor ignoring the root cause of a sickness. Treating symptoms might offer some relief, but it does not solve the problem. Not talking about racism might make you feel more comfortable, and give you the false apperance that everything is okay, but it will not make things better. Many of the issues we want to tackle cannot be fixed without addressing racism. Racism is a valid issue for today. Some people look at racism and visualize someone from slavery or civil rights, who is being hateful and discriminatory. However, we see less of that racism today, so people have assumed it is no longer a real problem. However, racism runs deeper than that. It affects people's implicit bias and this affects a person's jugements and actions. This means that good people, who don't considered themselves racist, can still say and do racist things. It is a complicated issue and it can not be ignored, so I ask you to please reconsider your thoughts and have compassion and empathy for those struggling. An injustice to one of us, is an injustice to all of us; we are all connected, so we all have to be part of the solution.
@Bree8tiveBEing
@Bree8tiveBEing 8 лет назад
Thanks for being willing to share your thoughts and opinions. Everyone is needed in this conversation, if we want things to get better. I have to point out that your argument, to ignore the root cause of a problem, would be equivalent to a doctor ignoring the root cause of a sickness. Treating symptoms might offer some relief, but it does not solve the problem. Not talking about racism might make you feel more comfortable, and give you the false apperance that everything is okay, but it will not make things better. Many of the issues we want to tackle cannot be fixed without addressing racism. Racism is a valid issue for today. Some people look at racism and visualize someone from slavery or civil rights, who is being hateful and discriminatory. However, we see less of that racism today, so people have assumed it is no longer a real problem. However, racism runs deeper than that. It affects people's implicit bias and this affects a person's jugements and actions. This means that good people, who don't considered themselves racist, can still say and do racist things. It is a complicated issue and it can not be ignored, so I ask you to please reconsider your thoughts and have compassion and empathy for those struggling. An injustice to one of us, is an injustice to all of us; we are all connected, so we all have to be part of the solution.
@IAmWhatICreate1999
@IAmWhatICreate1999 8 лет назад
Listening
@vlogbrothers
@vlogbrothers 8 лет назад
@thisjerksaguy
@thisjerksaguy 8 лет назад
Hank. You are being pathetic and idiotic right now. Get your shit together.
@Starchface
@Starchface 8 лет назад
You guys are hilarious. Whether you're right or wrong, you've realized that anyone who disagrees with you is a hypocrite. If someone wants to call you idiotic, they are themselves idiots. Well done.
@JasonFavrod1
@JasonFavrod1 8 лет назад
"anyone who disagrees with you is a hypocrite," is an argument that can't be disproved.
@Tactical-hg7ov
@Tactical-hg7ov 8 лет назад
+Jason Favrod it already has been disproved and saying that someone doesn't agree with you is a hypocrite makes you a hypocrite so thanks for calling yourself out
@jessicawang6558
@jessicawang6558 8 лет назад
Thank you for being one of the few white people who actually care.
@jacksonday
@jacksonday 8 лет назад
I'm sure a lot of white people care... Perhaps a lot don't speak out because in their communities, BLM is just largely misrepresented and misunderstood (for example news media constantly seeking the most sensational violence/rioting in an otherwise peaceful protest). Take out 'few' and your message is a lot stronger, implies the same, but makes no assumptions about how white people think. White people standing in solidarity with BLM and people of color is a beautiful thing.
@TheWeakMinded
@TheWeakMinded 8 лет назад
As soon as I benefit from this 'white privilege' I keep hearing about, I might give a shit.
@Crystal14351
@Crystal14351 8 лет назад
+TheWeakMinded so black people being killed unjustly does not bother you because you believe white privilege doesn't exist? Please explain.
@TheWeakMinded
@TheWeakMinded 8 лет назад
Brady Wood Don't forget to give yourself 30 lashes for speaking to a colored person without permission. Gotta be the good little sinner.
@ittyandpocky
@ittyandpocky 8 лет назад
You benefit from it every day when you aren't assumed to be a criminal because of the way you look, or don't have to fear for your life when a police car drives by, or when you get hired for a job over someone else with identical qualifications because you have a white sounding name over a black sounding name. I'm sorry that you don't realize that this shit is real, but it is. Nobody is asking you to feel guilty, or ashamed of being white, just to acknowledge that it is a thing and try to use that benefit you have for good.
@aseeroha
@aseeroha 8 лет назад
We live in a scary world. A world where people's lives are ranked based on the color of their skin or on their nationality or the country were they live or their beliefs. It is sad that some people get richer if others are killed.
@Kaylad8528
@Kaylad8528 8 лет назад
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@CherylMcMinorrr
@CherylMcMinorrr 8 лет назад
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@mcmaths1
@mcmaths1 8 лет назад
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@ray0chama
@ray0chama 8 лет назад
An underrated comment.
@TheTerriblePorpoise
@TheTerriblePorpoise 8 лет назад
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@CarverBain
@CarverBain 8 лет назад
A really great book that deals with this a lot is "Between the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates. He talks about what it was like growing up in a black body in Baltimore. Always used that diction. It wasn't that he was black. He just had a black body. Something that really stuck with me was when he said that "race is the child of racism, not the father." And I think that really speaks to one of the big problems with this overcoming racism. Even movements fashioned to get rid of racism such as 'Black Lives Matter' are really only perpetuating the myth of race. Really interesting to think about.
@MmmKayHuuNay
@MmmKayHuuNay 8 лет назад
We cannot claim race doesn't exist because it absolutely does and people are being killed for it and besides that it alters and plays a role in every single humans life a BIG one. If everyone was blind then sure race wouldn't exist but that's not the case dear. Sadly people see, categorize and stereotype each other based on their race. It's an issue and we have to do something about it, not pretend it doesn't exist. Sorry mate! Perhaps in another universe.
@CarverBain
@CarverBain 8 лет назад
+Captain Ford you're argument sort of proves my point. Race only exists because we've constructed our societies in that way. Sure, there are physically distinct groups of people, but we happen to treat certain groups in different ways. There isn't any biological reason we should separate people with dark skin into one huge group that society treats differently when we don't do that with people who have black hair. You say that if everyone were blind race wouldn't exist, and that's exactly what I'm saying. Race isn't anything more than something we assign people. What Ta-Nehisi Coates is saying is that because we have these predispositions about how to treat people, something we call racism, people interpret that difference in an easily identifiable way. Race. Point is, to get rid of racism, we need to get rid of race. I'm not saying race doesn't exist, just that it only exists inside of our heads.
@CarverBain
@CarverBain 8 лет назад
+Callie Sullivan absolutely. I don't think racism will disappears over night, and race certainly won't. But if we start spreading the idea that race is a myth, it may be as little as one lifetime before we start to see changes. Look at the strides gay rights have made in just 20 years.
@FortuitusVideo
@FortuitusVideo 8 лет назад
+Carver Bain The racism against the Irish vanished in a generation. Same with Eastern European jews and Italians. African-Americans are unique and have a bad culture. Which is why more recent black immigrants succeed in America.
@Luckcat16
@Luckcat16 8 лет назад
I saw this and grabbed "Boy, Snow, Bird" by Helen Oyeyemi, “... it's not whiteness itself that sets Them against Us, but the worship of whiteness. Same goes if you swap whiteness out for other things-- fancy possessions for sure, pedigree, maybe youth too... we beat Them (and spare ourselves a lot of tedium and terror) by declining to worship.” I think it is much the same sentiment in different words; race exists as a product of an arbitrary cultural value system rather than as a fact of nature. Now it makes sense intellectually, but getting people to see it and recondition themselves to behave accordingly, that is a whole different ball game.
@Chouetterargentee
@Chouetterargentee 8 лет назад
I appreciate how you always try to create paths for empathy.
@vampirica89
@vampirica89 8 лет назад
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@carlyburns163
@carlyburns163 8 лет назад
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@rebeccarinaldi7181
@rebeccarinaldi7181 8 лет назад
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@frenchyf4327
@frenchyf4327 8 лет назад
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@bassoonrckr
@bassoonrckr 8 лет назад
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@nathanflannery3031
@nathanflannery3031 8 лет назад
I'm very disappointed that people are still lumping Mike Brown in with people that were "wronged" by police. Darren Wilson did his job and that has been proven.
@amyl3695
@amyl3695 8 лет назад
Since when is killing someone ever an appropriate response in any line of work?
@nathanflannery3031
@nathanflannery3031 8 лет назад
+Amy L You expect the police officer to forfeit his life?
@amyl3695
@amyl3695 8 лет назад
Nope, just pointing out how skewed your language choice seemed to me. I don't think that many people can disagree with the fact that killing someone should always be the last choice and the worst outcome of whatever the situation is and that the goal of being a police officer is not to kill people, which is how your original comment presented itself. Also your response doesn't exactly fit the scenario, if I remember correctly Mike Brown was unarmed.
@nathanflannery3031
@nathanflannery3031 8 лет назад
+Amy L Yes, he was unarmed. However, he assaulted the officer including attempting to get his gun. Mike charged at the officer, the officer fired done shots off of center-mass, and was left choosing between his own life or Mike's life. tl;dr- Darren Wilson did what he had to in order to save his life from a known criminal and people should stop praising a false martyr.
@anakso
@anakso 8 лет назад
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@ajrosenbaum820
@ajrosenbaum820 8 лет назад
Hank I fucking love that you made this video. My boyfriend is black , and I hate that I fear for his life when I'm not with him. I hate when older white women walk up to when he walks away to ask me if I'm "safe" or if everything's okay. I hate living in a world that feels so against the man I love, solely based on his skin. He is so much more then just some black guy. He's been the best part of my life. He taught me to love myself, and to be the strong woman I am today. Thank you Hank for this video. I just want the world to stop hating each other just because we don't all look the same.
@modernphilosopher3285
@modernphilosopher3285 8 лет назад
My apologies to the mods for having to deal with this comment section
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
There's a good number of us, and we're doing what we can to take care of ourselves and handle everything. Thank you for thinking of us.
@Woozenductions
@Woozenductions 8 лет назад
Ikr
@Potato-fb8zw
@Potato-fb8zw 8 лет назад
There are no mods.
@petitecontrebassiste
@petitecontrebassiste 8 лет назад
+untappedinkwell thank you!
@KevinTimmsOnline
@KevinTimmsOnline 8 лет назад
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@sarajo9119
@sarajo9119 8 лет назад
Thank you, Hank, for this thoughtful video. And thank you (and the mods working all day today) for attempting to make the RU-vid comment section a little less terrifying.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Oh man. The mods, myself included, have been working so hard. Major props.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Marco Brand new feature. Hank is probably one of the first YTers to test it out.
@kiratheburd
@kiratheburd 8 лет назад
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@evilcatlady37
@evilcatlady37 8 лет назад
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@ResortDog
@ResortDog 8 лет назад
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@kac1592
@kac1592 8 лет назад
It occurs to me that we (the Nerdfighters) could now use the power of the + to promote only comments that agree with our own beliefs. So, please, if you see a comment that is well-phrased and thoughtful, but disagrees with you, + it anyways. Thanks! And DFTBA!
@GreRe9
@GreRe9 8 лет назад
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@outcastjack
@outcastjack 8 лет назад
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@DukeGusion
@DukeGusion 8 лет назад
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@dwood2001
@dwood2001 8 лет назад
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@xxmiraclexx
@xxmiraclexx 8 лет назад
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@theoriginalsache
@theoriginalsache 8 лет назад
Wow. Nuance. On the internet. I had thought that nuance had gone extinct in these digital wilds. (I have been deeply saddened in recent years as many issues have devolved into "us" vs. "them" arguments, while decreasingly few people acknowledge that serious issues are actually complicated.)
@RyanRuark
@RyanRuark 8 лет назад
This is one of the things I really value about Nerdfighteria: The intent to understand complicated issues in all of their nuance and complexity.
@kylekrizizke6115
@kylekrizizke6115 8 лет назад
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@cheyennemarie7075
@cheyennemarie7075 8 лет назад
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@eryginger246
@eryginger246 8 лет назад
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@crystaldirkson3411
@crystaldirkson3411 8 лет назад
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@murry_monster
@murry_monster 8 лет назад
It always surprises me how compassionate you and John are about really tough subjects like these. I feel like you explained such a complicated topic well. Many people will not see your point because they have never personally dealt with these things and A lot of people have this mindset that "If I haven't personally seen it or it hasn't happened to me then it MUST NOT BE TRUE" I've never understood this mindset.
@BasementRuthie
@BasementRuthie 8 лет назад
I am weary to the insides of my bones. My soul. I long for a world of compassion. I cannot articulate more. I do not love argument for argument's sake. Reading the comments and trying to listen to those arguing (as I see it) against compassion, or arguing in a way counterproductive to positive solutions (or, arguing that there is no problem that needs solving or compassion in the first place) exhausts me. To those experiencing the inequality of society I am sorry that your reality can be reduced to arguments over the validity of statistical interpretation. I am sorry that there are those who love to feel they are right more than they love to see you as a fellow human being, complex and worthy of value. I long for a world of compassion.
@fuliajulia
@fuliajulia 8 лет назад
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@marthapasatiempo3672
@marthapasatiempo3672 8 лет назад
+ This was an excellently worded comment. Thank you, DFTBA.
@FrolickingWithChelsea
@FrolickingWithChelsea 8 лет назад
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@graceissonerdlike
@graceissonerdlike 8 лет назад
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@enderwiggins8248
@enderwiggins8248 8 лет назад
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@jackiemw100
@jackiemw100 8 лет назад
Thank you Hank !! It's really hard as a Black person to explain what life outside the bubble is like. My family, friends and I all work 40 hr. jobs, pay our taxes, vote and believe it or not are law abiding citizens. Why should I accept being treated like trash by a system that is supposed to protect me ? Why do others get so angry that I want the same sense of security that they feel . How does me asking for a respect, protection and equality hurt them. Just because my skin may be darker than yours is no reason to act like I'm undeserving of common human decency. If we don't speak up for ourselves, nothing will change or improve. I'm an AMERICAN, I subscribe to the dream & want the same levelled playing field as the next guy. No more but most certainly no less.
@tempestisthegame
@tempestisthegame 8 лет назад
I love seeing intelligence and maturity in the YT comment section. So insanely rare these days.
@Kaylad8528
@Kaylad8528 8 лет назад
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@jessika_robin
@jessika_robin 8 лет назад
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@brainey
@brainey 8 лет назад
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@Naiadryade
@Naiadryade 8 лет назад
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@FrankieXanthus
@FrankieXanthus 8 лет назад
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@chekubechukwuma4307
@chekubechukwuma4307 8 лет назад
I'm a young black girl in south Florida. I don't see a lot of racism here, but the idea or it scares and disgusts me. When Hank said thank to me (as a black member of nerdfighteria) that made me really happy but also made me realize how ignorant I am to the hatred around me. Even the awful shooting in Orlando, only a three hour drive from my house, felt very distant. I love this video because it is thoughtful and it reminds me -among other things- to listen.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
I'm so glad you're here. Thanks for sharing your perspective, and from one nerdfighter to another, DFTBA.
@JasonFavrod1
@JasonFavrod1 8 лет назад
Hank, do you really think racism is only visible to a select group of black people?
@shadowhunterkitty
@shadowhunterkitty 8 лет назад
I believe Hank is trying to state that white people cannot fully understand what systematic racism feels like.
@JasonFavrod1
@JasonFavrod1 8 лет назад
shadowhunterkitty systematic racism is vague can you be more specific?
@Noise_floorxx
@Noise_floorxx 8 лет назад
+Jason Favrod what? Vague? Complicated but not vague.
@JasonFavrod1
@JasonFavrod1 8 лет назад
S. Stout can you give an example of systematic racism.
@Noise_floorxx
@Noise_floorxx 8 лет назад
www.raceforward.org/videos/systemic-racism
@AkwardCheeseIsAkward
@AkwardCheeseIsAkward 8 лет назад
Thanks for this. Also if people could just chill a bit before commenting that'd be nice, remember the human. There is a person on the other side of this screen and you need to remember that. We're all trying here.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
I don't think that's how all caps works.
@rosesarelike
@rosesarelike 8 лет назад
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@evilcatlady37
@evilcatlady37 8 лет назад
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@pepeinostroza
@pepeinostroza 8 лет назад
+1
@rainstorm1809
@rainstorm1809 8 лет назад
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@diadu6
@diadu6 8 лет назад
Seeing all of the +'s makes me feel really happy
@starpasta
@starpasta 8 лет назад
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@Rulerofwax24
@Rulerofwax24 8 лет назад
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@ruskinharding4827
@ruskinharding4827 8 лет назад
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@ChloeTGAP
@ChloeTGAP 8 лет назад
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@skylerwitherspoon
@skylerwitherspoon 8 лет назад
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@rodneywarren1905
@rodneywarren1905 8 лет назад
We should start ignoring racist commenters. Don't give them even a moment of our time.
@sunMMVIII
@sunMMVIII 8 лет назад
I think that they enlist and attract other problematic commenters. They also use multiple accounts to comment and upvote, so that they can make their comments stay at the top of the comment section. :-(
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
The mods are trying to keep everything under wraps. High volume of new comments at the moment, though.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
Please do.
@basmabedawi5618
@basmabedawi5618 8 лет назад
We're trying to do our best to remove them so no one has to see them, but for the time being ignoring is the best thing.
@rodneywarren1905
@rodneywarren1905 8 лет назад
Awkward Aries You are the best! :-)
@samanthadunn2695
@samanthadunn2695 8 лет назад
Legitimate question: when he says the "black people are more likely to..." And all of that, but how does that prove any form of racism..? How can it be proved that these people did not do something to deserve it? I'm just curious. Thank you.
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
You might want to check out the description for the video. But also, I think you might be trying to grasp at institutionalized/systemic racism, as opposed to individual racism--and that's what a lot of people are starting to talk about right now. The incidents of individual racism inform and influence the larger, bigger picture of societal racism as a whole, and that larger picture is what Hank is getting at--and the thing that most of the country is trying to discuss/change. Hope that helps. Best wishes.
@AK4Uwolfen
@AK4Uwolfen 8 лет назад
Institutionalized racism is bullshit.
@bobizemo
@bobizemo 8 лет назад
how is it bullshit?
@bobizemo
@bobizemo 8 лет назад
***** there doesn't have to be intention thats the whole point of institutionalized racism, its supposed to work without intent. Just go look up the facts. Prove to me that it isn't real
@AK4Uwolfen
@AK4Uwolfen 8 лет назад
CtheKill Prove to me that it is real.
@ZachBusickMusic
@ZachBusickMusic 8 лет назад
My conservative 70 year old grandma had up till recently held the very common perspective among most middle class white Americans (at least most of the people I know in my small town in Kansas) seem to hold: that racism doesn't really exist anymore, and that Black Lives Matter is just an over-reaction, and a result of liberal politics and manipulation. She's not a bigot or a racist, she's a kind, generous woman, who is just mislead, misinformed and a little afraid. Yesterday I shared this video to Facebook, with a caption basically begging my white conservative friends family members to try and understand and empathize with black lives the way they had empathized with police officers after the Dallas and Kansas City shootings. Last night, with tears welling up in her eyes, she said to me "You're never too old to learn something new. Thank you for sharing that. I now see that black people have experienced things I don't understand, and I need to be more open minded and willing to listen." Hank, thank you so much for presenting this in such a concise, true, and compassionate way, that has allowed good people like my grandma to learn new things and approach things with more compassion. I am immensely thankful.
@NoPress7
@NoPress7 8 лет назад
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@YourOwnFunProductions
@YourOwnFunProductions 8 лет назад
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@ManikaDulcio
@ManikaDulcio 8 лет назад
I have to say thank you so much for this video. For a long time I have been a nerdfighter and I love this community. I love John in his books and wisdom. Hank is amazing and hilarious with his pop punk band and I honestly think your two are amazing. This video makes me feel great. I feel heard and like you are trying to understand. I have to say that this is something that I really needed to see. Because you have such a HUGE platform and majority of people who part of the community are white people. And they may not be completely understanding of it. So I just want to say thank you so much. Thank you Hank for this. Thank you John. Thank you for this whole community and this place that I can come here to listen. I hope that a lot of nerdfighters take the time to listen to what you are saying in this video. Thank you so much.
@MichelleHannaC
@MichelleHannaC 8 лет назад
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@JustJAINE
@JustJAINE 8 лет назад
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@ToOJen
@ToOJen 8 лет назад
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@juliap8068
@juliap8068 8 лет назад
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@fix_5317
@fix_5317 8 лет назад
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@LovingSoul61
@LovingSoul61 8 лет назад
This video to me, is a beautiful way of doing something. The truth is that allies have to lead other allies because explaining everything can get really exhausting when you're already living it. I wish more people felt invited to use their own humanity to expand their capacity to understand other people's experiences.
@fluffyunicorn3306
@fluffyunicorn3306 8 лет назад
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@ardailsmith2626
@ardailsmith2626 8 лет назад
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@katieboucher7994
@katieboucher7994 8 лет назад
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@TomHenryTography
@TomHenryTography 8 лет назад
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@amandahyde7552
@amandahyde7552 8 лет назад
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@lexiez123
@lexiez123 8 лет назад
Sometimes it is hard to have an open mind when you have a strong opinion. This video, which I had considered clicking off of because I thought I understood what is happening and don't want to think about it, allowed me to experience both sides of the spectrum. Hank did not say anything biased, he said everything very open. Thank you for going into both dangerous careers (from being a police officer to being a performer) and about African-American lives because I don't think I would have listened any other way 💜
@Htonartnomed
@Htonartnomed 8 лет назад
I love the fact that you emphasized "In this country". I'm not going to say discrimination only exists in the USA, but too many discussions of the topic implicitly assume the issue is the same all over the world, and most people online are for some reason still assumed to be american until proven innocent. So often I'm internally shouting at my screen that the problems and solutions discussed in videos only apply to america, and that children (and people of other ages, but less so) in the rest of the world, many of which get most of their information from youtube and similar websites, will get skewed ideas of the issues at hand, not realising that the maker of the video they are watching is only speaking about the situation in the USA.
@lindsayrigby707
@lindsayrigby707 8 лет назад
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@amyl3695
@amyl3695 8 лет назад
This is an important distinction that seems to frequently get missed.
@Kornqueen1
@Kornqueen1 8 лет назад
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@wandre_canada
@wandre_canada 8 лет назад
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@TechforKings
@TechforKings 8 лет назад
Thank you, thank you for this video. As a black man, I greatly appreciate this. I appreciate anyone, anywhere who's willing to acknowledge when something needs to change. That they see something wrong, and they aren't going to cower in a corner, but they're going to stand up for what's right. #Salute
@pretendperfection
@pretendperfection 8 лет назад
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@hayleya2216
@hayleya2216 8 лет назад
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@adriancherry4794
@adriancherry4794 8 лет назад
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@irishgn08
@irishgn08 8 лет назад
+!
@fabulas45
@fabulas45 8 лет назад
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@juannunez5767
@juannunez5767 8 лет назад
My thoughts go out to the people of Nice, France. I hope that the friends and families of everyone within reach of this comment are safe.
@sherrysung8334
@sherrysung8334 8 лет назад
Hank, you are so brave and thoughtful. You make yourself vulnerable over and over again at no immediate benefit to yourself and much detriment in terms of effort and emotional turmoil. You don't bow under the burden of the influence you wield; you use it the best you can for the betterment of the world. You give me hope. And please I don't mean to pressure you with this comment in any way. I'm certainly not asking that every video be incisive, heartfelt commentary on the social order. I'm also a great fan of old school silly videos, songs, jokes, q&a etc. I just want to say, thank you.
@vampirica89
@vampirica89 8 лет назад
A perfect comment! ++
@TiffyDaud
@TiffyDaud 8 лет назад
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@jebediahjames8665
@jebediahjames8665 8 лет назад
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@kenzieroberts5059
@kenzieroberts5059 8 лет назад
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@nongiga
@nongiga 8 лет назад
I think a lot of times people from a different background just have a hard time understanding struggles that they've never seen, and therefore can't even imagine. I see white people dis-valuing the black movement, men dis-valuing feminist struggles, wealthy people dis-valuing the hardship of poverty, and a lot more. All humans are good, but it's just so hard for us to accept other people's word for it and realize that we don't understand everything - maybe BECAUSE we're hungry for truth, for evidence we can see and touch.
@LucaMasters
@LucaMasters 8 лет назад
True. Other people's experiences will never be as salient to us as our own are. Combine that with the Just-world fallacy and you get a world of people assuming well-off people earned it and suffering people deserve it.
@amberhederer703
@amberhederer703 8 лет назад
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@brookefugate667
@brookefugate667 8 лет назад
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@pwneddude
@pwneddude 8 лет назад
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@melody9496
@melody9496 8 лет назад
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@kagwanjakariuki6000
@kagwanjakariuki6000 8 лет назад
Everytime I hear of another terrorist attack or case where a minority is hurt or killed by a police officer or bigot, I don't even feel fear anymore. All I feel is dread, despair at the creeping certainty that one day I'll be among the unavenged deceased. That no matter how i live my life, just for living it my life is forfeit to the fear and hate of others. And my death will become just another talking point over which nothing will be done. So thank you for trying to understand. And I am sorry you had to.
@TedrewF
@TedrewF 8 лет назад
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@KrystalKairi
@KrystalKairi 8 лет назад
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@ThunderBear08
@ThunderBear08 8 лет назад
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@drkmwinters
@drkmwinters 8 лет назад
I recently made a video about BLMs 10 political goals, and they seem reasonable and wil protecting all lives while protecting black lives from the violence that community experiences now.
@JoViljarHaugstulen
@JoViljarHaugstulen 8 лет назад
Hmm who decide what those 10 political goals are? I am just wondering as BLM seems to be a rather disorganized movement/group with not much in the form of leadership? So who would know and could decide what the majority of the people following BLM want to spesifically accomplish?
@redcoat4348
@redcoat4348 8 лет назад
Well, please no self advertising. I'm not watching the video. Even if it's good or bad.
@JuanPablodelaTorre
@JuanPablodelaTorre 8 лет назад
+Jeffy Samuel Who asked you to watch the video? You know what. I wasn't going to, but now, because of your comment, I'm totally watching that video.
@JuanPablodelaTorre
@JuanPablodelaTorre 8 лет назад
+Jo Viljar Haugstulen Actually, BLM is a chapter based organization. It is decentralized but it is not disorganized.
@JuanPablodelaTorre
@JuanPablodelaTorre 8 лет назад
+Kristi Winters Nice video, very informative. I subscribed, don't want to miss the next one.
@carolines7215
@carolines7215 8 лет назад
In conversations like this one I often think of a quote from Howard Zinn that states "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you don't listen to it, you will never know what justice is". I've noticed that there is a lot of debate in the comments surrounding the statistics of the situation, but no matter what side the statistics point to, you cannot discredit the voices of a whole group of people who are saying that they feel scared and oppressed. Whether or not they are right, you cannot discredit the fact that they feel these things because you are not them, and cannot experience the world in the way they do. If the black community in America says that this racism is real, and it is something that they have to deal with, and it is something that scares them, what authority do others have to tell them that they don't see or feel these things?
@coralista09
@coralista09 8 лет назад
+ This has always been a point super important to me! Thanks for adding it to the discussion
@basmabedawi5618
@basmabedawi5618 8 лет назад
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@oswenaisla4016
@oswenaisla4016 8 лет назад
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@karenkoning2876
@karenkoning2876 8 лет назад
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@zoekaufman6416
@zoekaufman6416 8 лет назад
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@zoekaufman6416
@zoekaufman6416 8 лет назад
It's sad to think that if the hashtag had been #BlackLivesMatterToo people would have gotten the message, even though they mean the same thing. #BlackLivesMatter
@melody7224
@melody7224 8 лет назад
A large portion of my family has a stereotypically deep south, conservative, "All Lives Matter" view on life. I love them, and they're not unconscionable people or at all unintelligent. They're uninformed, and confront minimal challenges to their opinions. Because of them I grew up with many biases I wholeheartedly reject today. Please, Hank, keep creating videos like this, whether the subject is BLM, LGBTQ+ advocacy, Women's Rights, climate change, openmindedness, or anything else that divides us, because slowly but surely you, John, and many others have influenced the way I form my opinions, have made me a more openminded, understanding person, and given me the strength to change my mind. Thank you.
@amyl3695
@amyl3695 8 лет назад
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@marthapasatiempo3672
@marthapasatiempo3672 8 лет назад
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@SuperAndrewlove
@SuperAndrewlove 8 лет назад
+++
@rancper
@rancper 8 лет назад
Why is everyone okay with the violence that BLM supports? Plus, it is not only a race issue is it? Doesn't it have to do with poverty?
@Vanrosea
@Vanrosea 8 лет назад
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@NolanKresnak
@NolanKresnak 8 лет назад
there is so much pain in the world right now. thank you for addressing it in an intelligent way, hank
@erictrautmiller1154
@erictrautmiller1154 8 лет назад
It's not that I disagree with what's being said, but I think it's important to ask what it means in terms of action. People have been saying that racism is wrong for a long enough time that simply saying it again lacks purpose. This video--along with most of its counterparts in social media--have a certain emotional resonance but nothing actionable. Give me a specific unjust law you want overturned, or a particular malpractice you want to raise awareness for and I'm all ears. But taking precious time and energy to repeatedly connect emotionally to a large, vague problem I already know about? I don't know, guys. I DO want to be a good person and make the world a better place, but I don't see how re-acknowledging a general prejudice in society every other day effectively does that. That, in a nutshell, is why a number of movements in this vein rub me the wrong way. I suppose there's nothing wrong with people getting emotional energy from having these repeated emotional connections. Maybe it works for others, but from an outside perspective it seems almost like an addiction. It feels like many are more interested in that emotional high than they are in actually trying to solve parts of these problems, which is far more difficult.
@sarar4901
@sarar4901 8 лет назад
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@gossamernonsense6837
@gossamernonsense6837 8 лет назад
+. very good point
@asianzhang
@asianzhang 8 лет назад
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@TheSquawkingbird
@TheSquawkingbird 8 лет назад
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@teamvalenstorm9686
@teamvalenstorm9686 8 лет назад
Sometimes just bringing it up to light for others is enough for them to realize it is going on as not everyone is aware of the privilege they hold because of their race/gender/sexuality etc. I completely agree that action needs to be taken instead of us just stating the problem with some emotional connection, but for the time being, it's a little difficult to mention laws that have to be overturned or things that need to be changed when it comes to prejudice. In reality, it's PEOPLE and not the laws themselves that cause these problems, as they are used to the mindset of: "this is how it has always been". I'm not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that speaking up about these kinds of issues are the only solace people have, as they only have their voice to do so. Standing up any other way could potentially cost them their lives, as we have seen countless times over in history. Not just for the black lives matter movement, but in general.
@PanicProvisions
@PanicProvisions 8 лет назад
I'm black and sooo glad that I live in Germany, where I don't have to deal with all these issues myself. I am never afraid for my live when I leave the door and my biggest concern for my safety is traffic usually, with the police being the least of my worries. I'm not saying that to show off or anything weird like that. I just think it might contribute to showcase how diverse all our experiences can be. I feel for the people of colour in the U.S., especially in the poor urban areas where the problem seem to be at their highest.
@nicolenorcia8405
@nicolenorcia8405 8 лет назад
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@PaulaDuPontPlus
@PaulaDuPontPlus 8 лет назад
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@thepetermullins
@thepetermullins 8 лет назад
"We only have this one life" That's a bit of a blow to the Buddhists. What a way to find out!
@poiewhfopiewhf
@poiewhfopiewhf 8 лет назад
THE WORST PART ABOUT CENSORSHIP IS █████████████████
@untappedinkwell
@untappedinkwell 8 лет назад
This comment made me laugh. Thank you.
@poiewhfopiewhf
@poiewhfopiewhf 8 лет назад
untappedinkwell haha anytime :)
@reagansims3202
@reagansims3202 8 лет назад
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@entropy2030
@entropy2030 8 лет назад
On your statistics, I was wondering on the first one where you say a black person is more likely to be pepper sprayed, is the amount of people that actively resist arrest factored in?
@entropy2030
@entropy2030 8 лет назад
And as well for the statistic about harsher prison sentences, are repeat offenses factored into the statistics. And about Brock Turner, I think the issue there is that he was rich and a possible Olympian, change Brock's skin color and nothing else, I think that he has a very big chance of getting the exact same sentence. There could be racism in the justice department, but I just want to be through.
@cauzintrauma5685
@cauzintrauma5685 8 лет назад
i completely agree woth hank here but as a bother of a cop i still can help be afraid that some one will look at him and think this man is a cop so he musy be racist there for his life does not matter. ny brother is the most kind person i know and would never do anything to hurt anyone all career paths that he has had were careers of helping he has been an EMT a nurse, pharm tech, fire fighter, and now a st. Louis County police officer. i want everyone to ve treated fairly blacks Hispanics, and all other races in America including white police officers. yes there might be some rotten officers but the truth is most are there to protect people like the people in these comments. so can we stop with the hate and start with the love?
@UdyKumra
@UdyKumra 8 лет назад
Here at Nerdfighteria, we love complexity, so we know that it's not even the majority of police officers that are racist, just a small minority. I respect your brother and by the way, that is an amazing set of skills that your brother has.
@karenkoning2876
@karenkoning2876 8 лет назад
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@zoekaufman6416
@zoekaufman6416 8 лет назад
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@chasbodaniels1744
@chasbodaniels1744 8 лет назад
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@cauzintrauma5685
@cauzintrauma5685 8 лет назад
+udyvlogs yeah if i can be even half as successful as him in life i will be happy
@isabelcutting9546
@isabelcutting9546 8 лет назад
On Instagram I saw a wonderful metaphor for black lives matter vs all lives matter. Bobby is sitting in a diner. Bobby doesn't have any food, but everyone around Bobby has food. Bobby says, "Bobby deserves food." Everyone says, "Everyone deserves food." Although that is a true statement, it does nothing to change the fact that Bobby has no food.
@johnnawarkentine2342
@johnnawarkentine2342 8 лет назад
I never comment, but I just wanted to say that this was a great video. This is a topic I've been thinking a lot about recently and it was nice to hear your thoughts on the matter. Also thank you for posting that playlist. Not only did it open my eyes to different opinions or let me hear new arguments in new ways, but it also introduced me to a plethora of different creators I probably wouldn't have found otherwise! Honestly, thank you!
@rubiniosity
@rubiniosity 8 лет назад
If anyone is wondering why there is a sudden increase in comment responses which are simply a " + " , visit hankschannel for the explanation . Hank wants us to test out a new way to interact with comments .
@nerdybertie4125
@nerdybertie4125 8 лет назад
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@starpasta
@starpasta 8 лет назад
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@csquaredverbs
@csquaredverbs 8 лет назад
+ for important info
@ChloeTGAP
@ChloeTGAP 8 лет назад
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@skylerwitherspoon
@skylerwitherspoon 8 лет назад
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@kitty1761
@kitty1761 8 лет назад
My mom had gone into a T-Mobile the other day to return a charger. I stayed in the car as I have health issues, and I felt like my body was going to explode. It took her a while to come back. When she finally did, she told me about an experience she had just encountered. An older black woman had stopped my mom to say that she loved her. My mom had never met her before, but in that moment two human beings stopped and expressed love and hugged. Why? Because so many people will judge due to the color of your skin, and to that woman and my mom, all it was was skin. It is just the outer covering of another human. The woman told my mom that she couldn't handle the hate in this world. She had made it her mission to tell every Caucasian she saw that she loved them. That is powerful. That is the definition of humanity. I cried. We need more love in this world.
@thecheesydancinggirl
@thecheesydancinggirl 8 лет назад
I absolutely adore watching vlogbrothers because they approach subjects with such humility and compassion. There are so many places these days where we just see people spewing out opinions into and ocean of unheard arguments, and I really appreciate the genuineness and objectivity they bring to the table.
@madelenashobbies
@madelenashobbies 8 лет назад
I don't understand why people are mad at Hank for deleting rude comments. Can't you see that this mad is trying to spread love and awareness? He doesn't want hate or negativity here. Also, it's his channel. He can do as he pleases.
@ericborthistle
@ericborthistle 8 лет назад
Kind of on topic, but I really like what Casey said on today's video. "if I got to the hospital to see my aunt, it doesn't mean I don't care about all the other sick people in the hospital". Paraphrasing but am interesting analogy.
@mademoisellesachaaa
@mademoisellesachaaa 8 лет назад
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@sylviaodhner
@sylviaodhner 8 лет назад
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@summer6100
@summer6100 8 лет назад
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@emilyarmitage5637
@emilyarmitage5637 8 лет назад
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@Ekaekto
@Ekaekto 8 лет назад
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@franzige7536
@franzige7536 8 лет назад
I will never ever ever understand how someone could be regarded as less worthy just because of who they are
@LauraDFTBA
@LauraDFTBA 8 лет назад
It's also worth remembering that understanding an idea is not synonymous with agreeing with it, and that disagreeing with something doesn't require a battle of dogmas in an attempt to establish a hegemony.
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