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Pretty much the only thing that hurts Cream is the fact Ice cannot see. Even then I'd still argue that Ice can still theoretically win against every single character and Stand in the series provided he can perfectly calculate where someone is gonna be so that Cream can successfully erase his targets
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 not if Ice is just hiding in Cream,he's in a void of nothing that will instantly erase anything it touches. How exactly can Made in Heaven or GER beat it if Ice isn't gonna be affected by their abilities? Like when he's in Cream he's essentially left the current plain of existence and is no longer occupying physical space,he's just a giant ball of nothing that erases things from existence. Can't really reset that to zero if you can't see it,hear it or even touch it
@@CoylerProductions MIH can literally reset the universe and accelerate time the sun comes out and Vanilla Ice is dead because the sun instantly kills him, GER resets every action Vanilla Ice does, Giorno can literally reset everything that tries to hurt him and their will back to Zero so basically Vanilla Ice tries to attack him, his attack gets nullified as if it never happened in the first place
So let's lay out some other really easy 'one changes' Crazy Diamond - heal himself The Hand - Okuyasu brain transplant Earth, Wind and Fire - can become anything Heaven's Door - just make it work how JoJo fans think it works Killer Queen Bites The Dust - can use both BTD and regular KQ at the same time King Crimson - can attack in time skip Soft and Wet - can steal life force Whitesnake - removing discs kills the target with possibility to revive The Sun - doesn't hurt the user Highway to Hell - user is protected from death Cheap Trick - user isn't killed by Stand Notorious B I G - sentience
Well, in defense of Heaven's Door, we dont KNOW if it works that way or NOT. From what we have seen, sure looks like it COULD work the way we think it does
@@tgnm9615 King Crimson. Epitaph's forecasts are absolute except Diavolo can change his fate and now attack during erased time for maximum advantage. He can only lose if someone takes him out without him being able to react but as its Diavolo he is basically using Epitaph all the time and hiding. Edit: That said Killer Queen using Bites the Dust presents an interesting conundrum against King Crimson's time erasure. Also Notorious BIG is still unstoppable but Diavolo can at least skip past attacks and counter attack. So its a stalemate with BIG and KC to me.
because araki likes to make OP stands but has to give them a weakness to make them defeatable, so it really only takes removing that one weakness to make them invincible. Take CD for example. Could've easily become a overpowered stand that turns the user unkillable, even more so than GE since it can be done instantly, but it was given the weakness of not being able to heal its user.
I think one small change I would make to the stand is to make it work similarly to The Hand. If everything Cream erased was constantly fused together like The Hand then you got yourself a miniature black hole! It would suck everything in because it's trying to fuse space in all directions. Vanilla Ice won't even need to see because all his enemies will be dragged towards him.
Wait a minute. But isn’t cream’s erasure constantly going when it’s active? So would he just… suck up all the air in za wardo then accidentally suffocate everyone on the planet itself?
I would honestly be fascinated watching an interaction between Dio, Pucci and Vanilla Ice. I imagine Dio would be more inclined towards Pucci because he clearly was more intellectually proficient and calm, while Vanilla Ice seems to have been a lot more prone to anger issues, and doesn't have the decency to use the goddamn door.
@@lancebradshaw4829 the funniest part is that he's literally the only main villain in jojo where his names both references luck and how he'll always be an unlikely victor in most scenarios which is why he never actually lost to the gang. He just dies to something unexpected which so happens to be a ambulance that was supposed to get him.
The best part is that Vanilla ice could probably kill Dio if he wanted to. Not even time stop could do anything against him once he in the void ball form. He could even kill ultimate Kars. Immortality doesnt matter when you get erased from existence.
@@MrHAH-cd9ku yeah...but they would need to see cream do it's thing before realizing the weakness or what it even does and by then, cream would need to hit them, which means it's over
@@fortnitesexman i mean, Dio would already know as he is Vanilla's daddy. And about Kars... i mean, we do not know what he can really do if he realizes the existence of stands. He might be able to develop the best of them all (he is supossed to have the abilitites of alo living beings) so... but yeah that one will probably be a win for Vanilla Ice
@@jestfullgremblim8002 well first off, he would get hermit purple, second, i don't think he'd have the knowledge of what everyone's stand is, so it's not like he could choose ger unless he already knew about it for example so he'd effectively only be able to replicate cream but sure, if he has time to figure out how to do that (a few seconds) then he'd just be a better vanilla ice (who could possibly still see due to leaving a hand squirrel outside, not sure how that'd work tho)
@@fortnitesexman i mean yeah, but as he will have the power from every living being, one could argue that after discovering stands, he could develop one with custom powers, anything he decides to have. But that's just a theory tho, we do not yave any idea of how a pillar man with a stand would play out
If it the same place that isn’t just death, Avdol would’ve most likely already bleed out or left without any arms. Now that would be a crazy fanfic, Avdol the armless stand user of fire.
If Kira puts a bomb on something, and that something gets put into the other dimension by Rob Van Winkle(Because it isn't destroyed, just misplaced), in theory Killer Queen's bomb could detonate in the other dimension. This is how I'd ass-pull a victory against Vanilla Ice, if I had to write Kira winning this. But I do think Kira would be a real underdog here, without many ways to take a win from VI
@@sadbread2446 Well then, yeah. Unless the bombs being separated into atoms doesn't defuse them, but I'm pretty sure that is the case. Like I said, pretty big ass-pull to let Killer Queen take a W off of Cream Edit: syntax correction
I always like how JoJo can avoid power creep so well. Reminder that a Stand User that is fought halfway in Part 5 could potentially simply solo a Stand duo that appears nearing the end of Part 5 that was causing trouble for more of the team than the former. Ghiaccio if placed to fight Secco and Cioccolata wouldn’t go well for the sadistic duo. Green Day’s mold spores might not even blossom under such harsh cold, let alone getting through that armor. While Oasis’s ability even if it can depressure-type melt through the ice, White Album still is based on the cold, meaning Secco’s surrounding water is going to be freezing his holiday sack off. And even if Secco succed the water to spit back at Ghiaccio from afar, Gently Weeps ability can probably completely defend Ghiaccio and even deflect the shards (assuming there’s enough continuous inertia to successfully ricochet back and not simply fall down after some bounces). I’m just saying Ghiaccio could’ve saved Sorbet and Gelato from their anime deaths. (I think explicitly Cioccolata was never shown killing them in manga right?)
I wanna argue that, in a hypothetical, Illuso could have a chance to beat a Vanilla Ice and Cream with sight. Why? Illuso’s Man in the Mirror can separate the Stand User from the Stand, rendering Cream unusable. Which then comes to a match of Vanilla Ice vs Illuso and Man in the Mirror. In a straight brawl, vampire Vanilla Ice would have the tenacity to essentially negate Man in the Mirror’s damage. AKA, Illuso and Man in the Mirror doesn’t have the power to one-shot kill Vanilla Ice. HOWEVER, if I remember right, Illuso has the ability to jump in and out of his Mirror World while leaving his victims trapped within the Mirror World. If that is the case, and Illuso is able to get the drop on Vanilla Ice before he can enter Cream, then Illuso wins since Stand and User are separated and can’t use one another, and Vanilla Ice would be forever trapped in Mirror World until Illuso dies
Risotto Nero aswell, even able to see with cream, metallica can make you invisible and can deny the blood that a vampire needs. So is a matter of who gets out of the ability first.
@@kronos3129 We have actually seen dios reflection in part 1 when he puts his 3 fingers to the glass when he first becomes a vampire you can you can see the reflection of his fingers on the glass
Here is the thing,man in the mirror as a stand his pretty weak(moody blues beat his ass)and vanilla ice is a vampire so im pretty sure vanilla ice would just kick man in the mirror ass
only if you make the stand as fast as Crazy Diamond maybe. True, its utility was still heavily underused because of Okuyasu's stupidity but even a smart okuyasu can't make his stand fast enough to be OP in combat against other stands
4:12 Kira’s strengths comes from he’s Luck, both of he’s names referenced luck, that’s why he was difficult to tag and why he kept getting away. A battle between the two even though Kira lacks in combat prowess, Fate and Luck may shine on Kira enough to become the unlikely victor, maybe even against Dio and Diavolo but that’s a stretch. 😅
To make King Crimson broken... well just teach Diavolo to use his stand. Like he never uses his most BROKEN ability, He phases through all matter so he could just put his fist in someones head, resume time, then they have a Stands fist in their brain. Also stands cant be hurt from non stands so King Crimson is fine
Idk if that would actually be possible tho? King Crimson is skipping time not simply phasing through matter so think his hands might just be pushed out or something idk?
KC’s ability relies on fate, it’s not just temporary intangibility. A hand appearing in someone’s head would go against the fate intended for them, and Diavolo has the ability to exempt only himself from fate, not alter that of any other people.
So okyasu loses in a normal situation but let’s just say he somehow knows all about cream and can time za hando right. What happens when cream and za hando’s swipe touch each other?
easy, nothing would happen, cause za hando wouldn't touch cream to begin with cream in it's black hole form is essentially non existent, so there's nothing to touch thus nothing for za hando to erase, but za hando has something for cream to erase, so it would essentially just be like if our boy oku walked into cream on his own
how to make DIO the strongest character: -infinite time stop -immune to sunlight -remove his mouth so he stops talking and focus on fighting instead of bragging that he's better than all his enemies
Legit, you give crazy diamond the ability of self heal and josuke's basically invincible and unkillable. Either that or just allow it to restore people to whatever state they were in their life and josuke can just turn someone in a fetus or before then.
5:34 He can just explode Vanilla Ice's head in TimeStop and the power of King Crimson can do the same, as long as Diavolo is quick enough to strike before Vanilla goes into the void and demolishes him.
@@xdryan2.o572 The void would probably count as shadow, so no sunlight would get in it. They'd just be there infinitely since we've never seen Diavolo lose stamina when erasing time- even though side-stepping for days would kind of hurt your legs.
Since Cream in his dimensions technically doesn’t exist in the real world. He could beat Wonder Of U, and maybe even GER because technically the attack doesn’t exist. Just my opinion tho
You know, an interesting one is that Cream probably low diffs D4C as well, at least without Love Train. He can't even go into another dimension to grab another Ice because the void will just eat whatever he tries to use to transport him.
Vanilla Ice easily beats goku and i feel like it would be really fun to see xD Vanilla Ice: *enters his stand* Goku: huh, where did he go? he must be hiding somewhere but i can't sense his ki! Vanilla Ice: *erases goku*
Hey, I think all of your videos are great keep up the good work! I just wanted to ask how should you think silver chariot requiem would react to vanilla ice. I mean he’s already inside his dimension(and his stand) so how would his stand be reversed on him?
If Cream becomes disloyal to Vanilla Ice, then it is likely it will intentionally disintegrate Vanilla Ice, swiftly ending him. The dimensional obstructions don’t matter - Silver Chariot Requiem’s range reaches into other dimensions, hence the mutations that began to appear before Bucciarati and Diavolo saved the world from the rogue stand.
I hated that he killed two of the main characters. I think that's too much for a minor villain to do. I would be fine with him killing Iggy, but with Avdol that was too much. If DIO was the one who killed Avdol at the mantion it would have been a seriously heavy and impactful way of introducing the main villain to our heroes... And I think that Avdol and Dio had some unfinished business, would love to see their fight, Avdol saying something like "I was terrified when we first met, but now I'm ready to face you" and Dio still trying to change his mind like "I see your will has really grown, I could make you even stronger if you join me". Avdol's second death was lame either way, the first one was way better and impactful
i wouldn't call him a minor villain, he's dio's right hand man, and could've effortlessly taken out any one of the jojo group if they were there instead of avdol and i think having dio's right hand man be this dangerous really shows us how dangerous dio himself is due to vanilla essentially viewing him as god avdol's first death was honestly just mid af, he got cucked by a stand as lame as g u n, while his second death has his entire body fucking erased within an instant and out of nowhere, leading to iggy and polnareff needing to pull a bunch of shit out their ass to try and defeat the dude, two dudes trying their best vs one dude not trying all that hard, and that's *just* dio's right hand man?
@@fortnitesexman Whaaat? His first death was mid??? Bruh, it's not always about an epic battle, avdol's first "death" was very good. It had such an impact on Polnareff and Kakyoin, it was perfectly filmed, how the music stops, he falls in slow-motion while polnareff is looking on him, then tries to act strong but in reality cries because of his mistakes. And his real death is too quick and less impactful because he already had a death scene and was brought back
@@STPstudio47 his first death was cheesy af, the slowmo especially takes the tension away, and polnareff trying to act strong was more funny than anything because of how generic of an anime trope it is, he might aswell have run down a tunnel screaming about how he had become sex, and the last thing here is the largest issue with his first death, it was a fake out death, but the second one honestly doesn't suffer from it, cause avdol very clearly does die here
@@fortnitesexman ngl I disagree with you heavily on this point and agree with the op. Avdol's first death was much better than his second one. It is in no way corny. The slow mo effect was to show how impactful that death was on polnareff. Avdol's first death entirely changed polnareff's character.
Honestly I think that white snake could possibly get the drop on Ice only if the time is right and he gets the first strike. White snake could practically just remove the stand and memory discs of Ice, getting him into a coma like state, then taking the op stand disc somewhere safe, not in some kind of carpark. The finishing move is to just put Ice into the sun to, you know, let the sun one shot the vampire.
4:13 Yes. It all depends on how things play out. If Kira noticed that Vanilla Ice is in town and starts to kill people, he would instantly be alerted by it in the news or he would be alerted by another Stand User. In fact, he also had one of the Stand Arrows, so there’s a good chance that one of the arrows would help give him the ability to stop Vanilla Ice for good as well, or he would start his own army of Stand Users to stop Vanilla Ice. The same could also be said for DIO over Heaven, but that depends on whether or not that the arrow he had will transform his Stand into a Requiem Stand, which we both know there is a lot of debate around that factor. There’s also the Back Ally which Kira knows about, so that’s also an instant win there too. In fact depending on how things go, Rohan would have an easier time beating Vanilla Ice if he forced him to see his manga or tricks him into going into the Back Ally. For me it depends solely on why Vanilla Ice is there. The answer would be DIO trying to conquer the whole planet, which was his goal. So they’d both be in Morioh together and eventually Kira would notice an army of zombies or Stand Users and would instantly be alerted. Which would cause him to use the arrow to stop DIO and Vanilla Ice, or run away from Morioh and use it on different people for his own Stand Army. The only problem is that Kira doesn’t want to leave Morioh, so the latter isn’t possible, especially when Kira doesn’t like making connections (expect for when it comes to hands.) But an additional power that helps Kira stop them is possible, and he could win in the end. Even without a Requiem Stand, he still has a good chance of winning depending on the new ability he gets. Which is guaranteed to give him one that beats DIO and Vanilla Ice easily because that’s how fate in JoJo works. Though DIO Over Heaven would probably still beat him either way considering Eyes of Heaven when GER was beaten because DIO altered the reality they were in into something more preferable, which shouldn’t have happen because GER says NO to everything.
@@eslin2845 There’s a reason why videos rank GER over TWOH. Because GER says NO to EVERYTHING, so it should’ve said no to TWOH’s ability even though we didn’t see that happen is Eyes of Heaven. I’m fully away that TWOH can manipulate reality to one DIO prefers, but GER can say NO to that.
@@SurgeDev1094 That doesn’t change my mind that GER isn’t better than TWOH because GER doesn’t care whether or not how strong any stand is as well as their ability, because DIO using the ability at all is an action. It does not change the fact it changes reality to anything it chooses, because GER would stop it on a whim, no matter what. Doesn’t matter about priority because GER doesn’t care about what the stand has. It’s why his stats are incalculable.
@@SurgeDev1094 Let’s also not forget that TWOH’s ability only works when DIO attacks his opponent. So that’s already a lose for him because that’s an action, so it’s already not viable to do, and even if he uses Time Stop, GER is able to move in Diavolo’s ability as well, so that’s off the table.
Sounds strong and all until you realize that light must pass inside Cream to them to see ouside of them, meaning sunlight now screwes them over even while inside Cream.
Could balance the ability by making him able to sense fresh blood (because he's a vampire at this point) so he'd be able to hunt down anyone that's injured. Then I can imagine fights against characters who have to try and stop their bleeding to avoid detection or they have to throw their blood to distract him, or he has to fight a team with a healer like Josuke or Giorno and unless he gets a straight up kill they can just heal afterwards and have a tense back & forth. Also, if he comes out into sunlight, he dies anyway because he's a vampire, so he'd need to somehow avoid that happening in any given scenario.
Yet, Chariot Requiem remains the most powerful one. If we could just adjust him to being able to be controlled by Polnareff then it solos the entire fiction.
Okay hear me out *What if you gave Anubis to Vanilla Ice?* Anubis is not only able to see where it is going without having eyes but it also can pass through solid objects without interacting with them Meaning the user of Cream not only would know where he is and where he's going, but could choose to NOT erase something it is passing through That plus the fact Anubis keeps improving the user's skills the longer he possesses them and - more importantly - doesnt simp as hard for Dio as Vanilla Ice ashis only real purpose being to cut down(and in this case - erase) everything and everyone who gets in his way, means Cream would only keep getting more powerful and serve no one Therefore could simply stay in the void forever, destroying things, getting stronger and *he would be happy about it* *"Anubis Ice" would be a unstoppable combo*
*Opinion*: Cream with sight 'could' beat Golden Experience Requiem. All Vanilla Ice needs to do is hop into cream before the zero point is set. Then all GER can do is delay the inevitable ball of vaporization speeding towards him via Return To Zero. However, if the zero point is set before Vanilla Ice hops in Cream, GER just needs to RTZ as many times as he needs to get an opening before Vanilla Ice becomes basically unstoppable.
Vanilla Ice would solo everything except arguably Love Train in Part 7 with this upgrade. He can activate it before Tusk Act 4 can be triggered, Scary Monsters Diego might have a chance if he can scratch him before hand, FV would be susceptible to getting his head erased before he can dimension hop since Cream can erase things he would use to jump between dimensions and because Cream is a ball of nothing also cannot be used indirectly to swap into different dimensions to trick Vanilla Ice, and Vanilla Ice would be immune to things like Ticket to Ride's divine protection because he exists in a dimension where there is nothing in it and therefore nothing to go wrong. Similarly, this Cream would also be immune to Wonder of U'd calamity; there's no environment around Cream to draw into it to damage him. Soft & Wet, however, may be able to damage Cream or may be able to use the same dimension as Cream with Go Beyond, where its bubbles are in a state of existence without existing, thereby erasing anything they touch. But since Cream itself also technically doesn't exist while it's in its void state it's super unclear how these two things would interact to me.
Cream Requiem might have been able to get around the sight limitation, although it's hard to predict what a requiem stand's powers would be. It seems to depend in part on what is needed by the user at the time, and also whether the user has enough power to control the stand afterwards: Cream Requiem being free of Vanilla Ice's control sounds dangerous.
What happens if D4C were to fight Cream? Cream's power is stated to be invulnerable because he's in another dimension, but since D4C can dimension hop, is it possible for Miss Valentine to use his stand to travel to the dimension Cream resides in? or is that dimension too far away to reach? Would D4C instantly disintegrate?
I see people mot giving this certain part of cream's abilities not enough attention: creams creates a portal and SENDS people to a void, not ERASING them completely which means they'd still be conscious and if so, just imagine this from Avdol's perspective, in a void, unsure of his companions' fates, lost 2 of his limbs, just imagine how terrifying it was for him
What's the point of this? It's like giving the hanged man the ability to actually go into a mirror dimension.. To give the world all the time he needs whilst stopping time. It’s obvious that Vanilla Ice would be overpowered, since you're removing his stand's only weakness without replacing it with another..
I mean kira lost 3 times and 2 of them the universe wanted him to lose against koich and jotaro? Koich just unlocked a hard counter to his ability. And against josuke okuyasu fucking came back to life to save josuke. That and they only knew about him because one of his dead victims told them about him. He is one of the smartest jojo villains considering how physically weak kq and how he manage to deal with jotaro and josuke his biggest mistake was underestimating his "son" and having no ambition if he had went after josuke and his friends he could have killed all of them but yeah this vanilia ice is on a whole new fucking level.
Dude you're strait up insulting kira wtf, kira has a lot of cool moments and he's so powerful you can't just only talk about his failures, he almost won but like every jojo villain he had to fail Conclusion: I haven't clicked on a video about vanilla ice just to see my favorite character unfairly called stupid while having no relation to the video
Who can beat it? A few stands, those being: GER (for obvious reasons) Tusk Act 4 (It rips through dimensions like they are made of tissue paper) Chariot Requiem (still fairly obvious why this guy wins) Possible counters, depending on how their abilities interact with Cream, being: Wonder Of U Soft and Wet: Go Beyond The Hand Killer Queen: Bites The Dust Made In Heaven Cheap Trick And several others I don't have the time to list And finally, stands that are so powerful that they just barely have any chance, being: The World Star Platinum King Crimson And finally, C-Moon If you have any others that I can add to this, tell me below.
Weather repost with Heavy weather power up. It an ilusion power and Ice can see now so you know what happen. Also try to kill user are hard since Cream move will make air disappear which allow Weather Repost sense it.
Cream is said to hide in another dimension, Valentine can just pull him from that dimension, or pull a non stand user version of himself into his dimension to blow him up. Then again, it's Valentine, he beats many people.
The most dangerous stand in jojo universe is purple haze. If someone tries to get close to fugo in stopped time or accelerated time - virus, which come out of capsule would still be around Fugo, so it would protect him. Also Fugo can throw purple hazes capsule into the place, where vanila ice is going to quit his stand and be instantly infected after. One only counter of ph is ger but ger is stupidly strong and inbalanced
PH’s virus is a thing. We see from a fountain or sand that cream erases things like powder. Chances are, it’ll erase said virus. It’s not exactly a ridiculous stand, although it is very powerful if left unattended (being Fugo’s stand does that to you)
