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You should react to the ending/ final fight in the Movie, Gurren Lagann: The Lights In The Sky Are Stars, it changes a lot of things that I personally enjoyed.
I feel like both the anime and the movie do different parts better and my best version of the ending would be a fusion both. I really like the movie but they added a lot of cool things that didn’t actually matter.
He’s right they are universes and not galaxies. The creators said they did not know how to depict a universe so they drew them as galaxies. Also there are no living organisms in those universes, since this is the anti spirals pocket dimension.
@@Royalty-eb7xj well according to multiple official guidebooks it actually comes out as pretty vague. With TTGL’s height ranging from 5.28 to 126 billion light years. The universe being 93 billion. And is stated to actually be immeasurable in size because it is nothing but a materialized thought and a higher dimensional entity and doesn’t exactly exist in the physical world.
In the beginning: "so the light in the skies are our enemy" In the end: "the light in the skies are stars" Just a wonderful way this show really drives home its message in the end.
My head canon for the intro scene is that it's showing one of the many battles of the spiral ancestors against the anti-spirals many many years ago, one of the many who failed. And our Lagann which got buried deep underground was one also part of that battle. It fits perfectly.
If I remember correctly, I think the creator said something along the lines of it being a future adventure between the final battle with the anti-spirals and the epilogue, or an aborted story arc.
I've always seen it as an alternate universe where Simon and Team Gurren do become greedy and drunk on their spiral power after defeating the anti-spirals. The lights in the heavens seems to be used referring to other lifeforms and especially spiral races, so them saying all the lights are their enemies could be seen as other spiral races trying - desperately - to stop the fallen Team Gurren from bringing about the Spiral Nemesis
@@dianarocha2485 yep. I think they said it in one interview too. But I find it funny that even without putting much thought into, the scene could create different narratives.
Rana: WHERE IS THE INTERDIMENTIONAL WATERFAAAALL??? Fans theorize that the interdimentional waterfall is one of the greatest sources of spiral power which the spiral races were trying to use against the spiral nemesis (aka evil timeline Simon) Irl the authors just went for something that sounded cool, they had no idea where the story would go
Simon’s height surpassing Kamina always stuck with me. Because the reality is if Kamina was the main character, things would end up just as the Anti-Spiral feared. Simon is taller than Kamina because he does something that Kamina could never do with all that power Simon has gained. But we’ll get to that next episode.
huh? Hes just taller wtf and its nice to see them at the same age lol height would be a weird thing to hinge. If anything it's just to visually emphasis hes not the lil brother anymore.
@@DmDaPDmThey were not the same age lol Kamina when he died was 17, Simon at that point was 21. And yes, Simon's height surpassing Kamina's was definitely symbolic, showing that Simon was able to reach further heights than even Kamina could
@@Royalty-eb7xj Then it’s even LESS symbolic if he’s just older? He’d naturally be taller than him? lol I never knew Kamina was 17 though, maybe it’s the VA. I’m pretty sure they just drew them to be age appropriate, which would make Simon bigger, but if you want to see it symbolising he surpassed him…sure.
@@DmDaPDm I'm 5'10" and 26 years old so by your logic I can't be shorter than my 6'2" 18 year old cousin. Age doesn't determine height, so yes it is symbolic.
@@aandromaliuss Except you being shorter that your lil cousin isn't my logic. If you want to play that game...by YOUR Logic...anyone taller then you has surpassed you...and since i'm 6ft... you should be quiet lol just joking
There is a small series of OVA's (Parallel Works) for this anime (one of which shows the backstory of Lord Genome) along with a movie (Gurren-hen & Lagann-hen) that is a compilation of the anime but with re-polished/extra scenes. It's worth checking into.
You guys discussed a lot why simon became a homeless and totally forgot that in the first episode he and kamina wanted to do exactly this: escape the underworld and see the sky. Also, it is another analogy: Kamina is the person/idea that drives someone Rossiu is our logical side that makes us insecure if we can reach something You were absolutely right above simon being the head of the show, the laggan is literally this, it is what >drives< us And the challenges being everytime bigger is just the life itself, if you think in the problems that you had in the past, after you pass and look back you will realize that they weren't that big compared to what you are now. The philosophy in this show is deep
thanks for sharing the whole show with us, the fact that you guys keep talking about the first scene of episode one was almost hard to bare through out the journeyXD. I think it just one of the many past battle when the spiral king fought.
There are 2 movies u got to do for guren lagann like it is a must .......they arent different in story telling but some extra or new parts of the battles or fights are there that too hype to skip u got to do it *ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER* Like the ed fight if 1n 2 movie have changes that make it more wholesome n needed i guess 😅😂
The best explanation I've ever heard for the prologue is that it is an alternate timeline showing if Simon became the Spiral Nemesis. . First off, every single enemy on the Super Spiral Scanner shows up as green, typically the sign of an ally or a spiral reading. The Maelstrom cannon is directly mentioned, proving that the ship he is on is Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, and meaning these events are occurring after defeating the anti-spiral. Perhaps most importantly, "all the lights in the heavens are our enemy now," during the prologue, and we now know from the epilogue that, "The lights in the sky are stars where our spiral cousins are waiting for us." Essentially, the theory is that the prologue version of Simon grew drunk on spiral power just as the Antispiral warned, and without the Antispiral to stop him, he conquered (and presumably, eventually destroyed) the universe.
The emotions that I felt when first watching this are hard to describe and the lessons that it etched into my soul are things that I do my best to implement every day
Great movie. It was also studio Trigger's first full-length animated movie. The first time I watched it was in a VR headset, and it was a color overload.
40:08 "Lasted long enough for the weeding" , in the manga they explain that the weeding actually took place 2 weeks after they came back to Earth. Nia was already "dying" but she did the same thing she did against the Anti Spiral : Recreating her body by recalling her happy memories. Yoko help her put that dress on and was aware that Nia was putting a facade and could die at any point. She really did her best to survive until the weeding
Watch the movies. Especially the second one. They take the final battle to a whole another level and Simon is actually proven to be the most powerful character in the series (more powerful than anti spiral). By the end of this story, Simon is basically a god
I'm so happy to you guys finally finish this PERFECTLY AMAZING SHOW. TTGL is the definition of HYPE, I'm pretty sure they created the word and if the word existed before they created it, THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THATS HOW TEAM GURREN ROLLS!!!
One thing that I love in this show is that it is not an anime of mechas actually. EVERY part of this anime has paralels in life, and the DREAM STATE is the paralel of the comfort zone. THATS WHY YOU CAN'T GENERATE MORE SPIRAL POWER (will power). It is like when you have an objective in life but eventually gets something and stops fighting because you are comfortable enough
I always just thought of the scene from the beginning of the show as one of the infinite possible timelines from the multi dimensional labrinth that they were trapped in in episode 26
my assumption is that that first scene in episode 1 is that is is one of the possible lifetimes of simon, like how he was trapped in infinite parallel universes in episode 26. they have a few short music videos called parallel works where they show parallel universes with the same characters.
Watch the movie its pretty much everything condensed in to movie size but the final battle is crazier and bigger in the final moments when they clash drills and he does the final strike.
Watch the movies when they release the dubs to streaming. They’re enhanced retellings of the show with big changes to the fights and even crazier animation. Truly awesome stuff
*PLEASE* react to the 2 movies for this series! While it does retell the story, I promise you'll enjoy some of the changes! It is miles better of a climax in the 2nd movie! I hope Kill la Kill is on the list one day!
With the end scenes and studio trigger got gurren lagann ip back from gainax then they may start doing sequels with how vocal fanbase is. Considering gurren lagann is a love letter to 70/80s super robot animes then they gonna go into other universes concept. This is a fan dream me and others have but we pray they get permission from Go Nagai and company that holds known super robot titles liek mazinger z and getter robo to make them canon in gurren lagann verse. Considering gurren lagann is a fusion of those two with hint of king of the beasts Gaiking.
have you guys watched Space Dandy? if you havent you need to. its so much fun and im pretty sure the voice of the anti-spiral is the narrator in space dandy.
Something I really think Gurren Lagann did right over a lot of other things anime, movies, or even games is they knew where to end something. They could've extended it with games, off shoots, movies, etc and they decided no. "The movie is all we need." and because of that Gurren Lagann will always remain a classic without having to be ruined in someway by a bad sequel. Honestly, I think Avatar for example should've taken notes.
This was the first anime I ever saw and the first that I cried to for nia's death. I hoped for a while that they did a spin off of this anime but now I realize it's perfect as is .
So, to clear up confusion. Simon is God or a God. He technically could recreate everyone who died and more. When everyone broke out of the multidimensional labyrinth, he actually absorbed it within himself. There's a movie that retells the anime, but they also included more details that were confusing. Some fight scenes were also redone and extended. Simon is actually the strongest anime character. There's an entire list of things that explain what Simon himself can do. He can not only create and recreate universes but also people and people's lives. He is anime God.
43:47 Oh Kamina's dad is dead AF, there's homework involved but the very first scene of the entire series is a Gurenn in Space, this is believed to be a scene of the previous War with the Anti-Spiral, the person that looks like Kamina is him and Also you saw his bones in episode 2 after Lord Genome Betrayed/killed him 28:04 that made total sense, over the years I've picked up so much junk knowledge that now I "know" it but it was just "told" to me I didn't learn anything about it, I "know" but don't "understand". It's like how I know Event Horizon was originally going to be a Warhammer 40k movie about humanities first encounter with Chaos. Or How Robocop was supposed to be Judge Dredd but not only that Warhammer 40k totally Rips from Dredd and Robocop, check out an Arbite (basically a Space Judge) some time they look like the funky cloned love child of Dredd and Robocop. Now you also know but don't understand stuff.
Will you be watching the movie(s)? It's been a joy to (re)watch this show with you all, and while the movies are generally less cool than the series in itself, the final fight is so insanely cool in the movie, and deffo worth a watch :D
This series is so GAR!!! (Remember that term? It was popular when this series first came out) 😉 Simon has Lordgenome's eye - like the Spiral King, he's got so much spiral power that he's manifesting the spiral eyes (ala the Rasengan). And like the Spiral King, that spiral power will enable Simon to live a very long life 🤔 BTW --possible spoiler here, be forewarned-- if ya guys watch the ending of Samurai Jack, you'll see something familiar 😁
45:08 I promised myself that I wouldn't comment but it's ok. About Nia, when they said that she's a virtual form, it made me think that she had no soul & that would mean that she won't be waiting for Simon in the afterlife along with everyone else & I felt even more depressed than I thought I would. So if there were other solutions that I missed while watching the show please enlighten me.
Maybe not virtual in the sense that she’s just a digital person, but because she is/became an Anti-Spiral, her physical makeup is different from the rest. Her body is basically made up of memories, just like how Anti-Spiral is the thought of all the sealed Anti-Spirals combined into one. But since she is also a Spiral, maybe she can still make it, because Spiral Power is empowered by emotions, so I would say she still has a soul
The 2nd movie ending fights was better. The two movies condensed the entire series down with fresh material spliced in here and there. It's gives us the ending they wanted at the time but didn't have the budget for it.
I think the Normies are reading too much into the intro scene of the show. It was written for the first episode many months (if not years) before we got to the Anti-Spiral arc, as far as I know they just had a general idea of what that was going to be like and they made the initial scene with that idea and threw in the Waterfall line because it sounded cool.
PLLEEEAAAASSSSSEEEEE react to Lagann-Hen. It got 2 Japanese-only movies: Gurren-Hen, which is a movie telling of the First Arc. And Lagann-Hen, which is the Second Arc. However, Lagann-Hen actually has an altered ending.
Maybe I've never understood this ending, but it's depressing as fuck. Sure, they've saved the world and laid the path for humanity's success...and also ended up extremely depressed/dead and never achieved their own personal happiness.
Remember tho, these are people who started the story living in poverty underground. In the first episode their dream is to reach the surface, but by the end theyve reached the stars!
I hope they watch kill la kill. It’s another master piece from trigger. Put it up there gurren lagann, cyberpunk edge runner, BNA, darling in the franxx, promare.
If you would have watched this in sub movie you would have seen a form of gurren lagann even beyond the final one, that’s basically bigger than the whole universe, it’s unfortunate they changed it for the dub
