One Of The Best Dive Watches I’ve Ever Seen

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In this video I review the Wise Adamascus AD8, a 200m diver made of 904L stainless steel. Housing a 9000 series Miyota movement too, Wise have made a beautiful and classy looking premium dive watch.
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@bbwt9991 8 месяцев назад

For dress watches and non dive watches you might be right Gary but as an engineer working in stainless steel chemical processing systems design and being a quite experienced diver (retired German navy) who actually uses watches as backups, 904L is less suitable than 316L stainless. It is softer than 316L, more prone to scuffing and scratching, and though stronger in tensile strength, that property is utterly useless for a watch case. Also due to the higher nickel content, people who are susceptible to nickel allergy can have a problem in wet and humid conditions with 904L. 904L is just a marketing gag used by Rolex initially if I'm not mistaken. Don't be blinded by marketing. 😉

@rarekid740 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info!

@Koishishibaman 8 месяцев назад

Out of curiosity, I wonder how seikos ever brilliant steel compairs? You pay a big premium price for it vs 316 steel. Any thoughts? Thanks

@kickstothehead3705 8 месяцев назад

Go look at the knife makers comment in the top thread 🪡 will shine some light on pan pam situation 😂

@kickstothehead3705 8 месяцев назад

@@KoishishibamanI’m pretty sure Rolex is known for being durable right what steel do they use ?

@paulvon2378 8 месяцев назад

Rolex uses 904 L

@williamsipe1151 9 месяцев назад

Their catalog is so full of great watches that I can't decide on one. This, too, is gorgeous.

@killertaxi100 9 месяцев назад

I've pre-ordered the exact same AD8 with the newly released bracelet option. Watching your video is making me even more excited for its eventual arrival!

@bwsinfonia13 3 месяца назад

Ordered in red got mine last week. My second favorite of my collection.

@fabricea7704 9 месяцев назад

This Wise is superb, this brand is getting us more and more used to buying smart. Great quality for a fair price. Their new (real) GMT model looks amazing in photos. Thanks Gary.

@nates78 9 месяцев назад

I have the limited edition Adamascus Bronze and the quality really is next level. Also, it's my most accurate auto. +1 sec/day. Love it and I'll be getting more now that they have a bracelet for the AD8

@georgeliquor2931 8 месяцев назад

Ive had the version with the darker blue fade dial with a matching blue leather strap for some time now and im wearing it today, i must say for me it beats any other dive watch in the same price band hands down and the lume shines for hours. Excellent quality and value for money, i will be looking out for the steel bracelet as i do like steel bracelets, well done WISE

@K_j_M 9 месяцев назад

That side profile... So thin lovely. I struggle to get past profiles like this now, they sit so nicely on wrist

@mikeellis4345 8 месяцев назад

That watch is a beauty! Nice to see a high quality watch instead of the usual Ali Express stuff.

@JanKowalski-rd7yb 9 месяцев назад

Yep, totally agree. A couple of days ago I was commenting on a video, and talking to another user, who - like me - was already a bit fed up with ubiquitous NH35A movements in microbrand watches. He adviced me to take a closer look on Wise watches, which are also often cased in 904L steel ( I know the brand, but somehow I missed that detail). And... that's a good advice. The 904L steel is basically the very same thing as Rolex's "oystersteel". Rolex may actually "guard" the whole production process more strictly, but it's still the same material. From what I gather, the main advantage of 904L steel over commonly used 316L is, that "oystersteel" is much more resilient to corrosion caused by salt water. You may think, that's less relevant, when you don't use diver's watches and don't swim with them, but we have to remember, that human's sweat contains salt too... Which means, that the better material adds to watch longevity. Wise watches cased in 904L are around 500 - 600 USD. Not many other brands use that type of steel. And if you compare Wise and Rolex pricing (and you like Wise designs, of course), than for me it's a no-brainer. I'm not saying I'm buying one right away, but Adamascus series is already on my "definitely-to-buy" list. In the case of this specific watch, I really like the hour hand design (got a bit bored with "batons" and "mercedes" all over the place). The dial and bezel look nice, but I have this impression, I've seen this type of design many times before. Brands that come to my mind from the top of my head now when I see it, are Seiko or Omega. That is not to say it's "unoriginal" or "boring". It's a nice watch, it's just I feel like I've seen this before... I'm a real fan of applied indices, so for me the watch looks just right, given that I see misaligned applied indices all too often - but these look really well done. As per usual with Wise watches - I just wait for them to finally switch from plain text on dial to their stylized "W" logo, but it's a personal preference thing.

@jaroslavklos6189 9 месяцев назад

Pity about the lume part, because it's longest lasting lume I have ever tried easily beats Seiko and Citizen divers by a long shot. Also build quality is way above everything in this price range, I mean really way above. Looking forward for a new bracelet. I wear mine on FKM Tropic strap and it's just amazaing.

@drasiritzbir 9 месяцев назад

If you want luster, get precious metals, if you want no scratches get something properly hardend like Sinn Tegiment..

@glennbeadshaw727 8 месяцев назад

I just don't want to have scratches on the glass and titanium is fine as far as I'm concerned

@brotherandrew3393 9 месяцев назад

That's a beauty. I would like the red one. The 904L steel would not be important for me. I always would prefer a high quality titanium case.

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

I find titanium too light on the wrist. Feels like a toy watch.

@brotherandrew3393 8 месяцев назад

@@thegorn I couldn`t disagree more. Wearing a watch should not be weightlifting but comfortable. I have an older little swiss dresswatch with an ETA movement on a leather strap. It is always pure delight for my poor wrist to sense nearly no weight wearing this watch. And the watch definitely does not look like a toy watch.

@JS-ev4xc 8 месяцев назад

It may be more corrosive resistance but not more scratch resistance. So overtime, the nicer shiny polish defeats the purpose with scratches formed. Too many of us, better scratch resistance is more important i guess.

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

On the flip side…it’s easier to remove the scratches yourself…easier to polish

@robwelsh5070 9 месяцев назад

Great descriptive review as ever Gary 👍

@ilikewatches 9 месяцев назад

Thank you

@ginocolella6373 9 месяцев назад

I love mine, it’s a fantastic watch 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.. and as u say, the quality is one of the best I had of many MB and big gun brands 🤩.. nice review 👍🏻

@1vbAPiYk 2 месяца назад

I have one of their pieces and I love it.

@D3ZG1978 7 месяцев назад

Stunning watch!

@kolbe4373 9 месяцев назад

It looks really great, and with an attractive strap!

@bradleyburton4762 9 месяцев назад

I love my Wise meteorite dial. Definitely my most worn watch

@TaylorCFP 9 месяцев назад

904 definitely has a better luster. Finally got a Rolex so can confirm. What impresses me is how bright it shines after a quick rinse. However it’s a bit of a scratch magnet compared to my other steel watches. I think if you have the funds for a Rolex or any watches using 904l, just enjoy it for a long time, don’t worry about the scratches and every 10 years get a full service and polish and it’ll look brand new.

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

Many sites have put 904L as either the same or lower than 316L on the hardness scale. Rolexes are so high-polish that I think whether they used either 316L or 904L, they'd start to scratch up fairly quickly.

@ronaldnixon8226 8 месяцев назад

Good God don't ever polish a watch. That's the worst advice for resale values ever.

@RedWolfRedWolfRedWolf 9 месяцев назад

No caseback shot? What movement is there ? Would have liked to see you photo the caseback.

@JamesG800 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely stunning

@dunderhay9169 8 месяцев назад

Still one of the best for macro photography on RU-vid 👍 . Nice watch, I'm not worried about the steel, but I do like that dial.

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@TheSuttdaddy 8 месяцев назад

Looks great. Reminds me of my Oris Divers 65 a bit

@tomthompson7400 5 месяцев назад

seriously great looking watch.

@zyembla 8 месяцев назад

I have the brown version and is absolutely beautiful. The only downside is the bezel, it's so stiff, almost unusable.

@jtpalooki7757 7 месяцев назад

Great review.. just preordered the bracelet version.. lotta versatility for not a lot of money. The watch is definitely a looker and the more compliments a watch gets the better the wearer feels😊! And getting Rolex steel for under $600 in an upscale diver.. what is there not to love?

@alamore5084 8 месяцев назад

I really like the Wise Adamascus watch. They look original and the quality is certainly there. I cannot whinge about anything at all on this one. Usually I b!tch about something. The burgundy dial or black and gold variants for me. Tough enough to be a dive watch. But classy enought for a shirt and suit. Excellent effort Wise 💯

@craig2100 2 месяца назад

Brilliant review mate..I just placed an order

@ilikewatches 2 месяца назад

Wow, sounds like you enjoyed the video, well I’ve no doubt you’ll enjoy their watch as it is very good!

@xPhilz0r 9 месяцев назад

Wise is putting out some great watches

@AdAce21 9 месяцев назад

that dial is gorgeous, and I love the handset Wise uses. The only reason I haven't bought one (this exact one particularly) is I'm afraid it'll wear too big.

@renngretsch 9 месяцев назад

My thoughts exactly, but I imangine there are some people out there that think Baltics 38mm diver is too small for them and would go for a 41mm. If this Wise was 38mm and a 9039 movement I would have one in a heartbeat.

@baldeagle6128 9 месяцев назад

They don’t wear big. They are very slim and comfortable, even under motorbike leathers

@murph8411 9 месяцев назад

The dial texture is the main thing that puts me off them. If only they have more of a range of dial textures.

@jackserious3282 8 месяцев назад

They don't wear Big at all. I love this watch I sold my Breitling once I received this one.

@AdAce21 8 месяцев назад

@jackserious3282 wow, thanks for the heads up

@moboei 8 месяцев назад

Absolutely love your macro shots. Top of the bill

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

Glad you like them! really appreciate the comment

@julianb1474 9 месяцев назад

There appears to me more than soupcon of marketing bs around the 904 vs 316 choice. The touted better corrosion resistance is only true if your'e in the habit of bathing your watch in a bath of concentrated sulphuric acid! 316 is also extremely corrosion resistant and is the standard in many laboratory and medical applications. The different colour and polish comes from the higher chromium and copper content in 904. Incidentally, 904 is a softer material and would scratch more easily than 316.

@Trilobite45 Месяц назад

As Edmund Dantes told the smuggler captain, “You should get out more “. 😉 Glad you found your new fav watch.

@philspencelayh5464 8 месяцев назад

Really nice watch, not so keen on the dial though, great proportions helped by the 9015 I expect. I have one watch in 904L and there is something about it that makes it a bit special. I also bought a new bracelet for one of my Seiko 5s and it came in 904L, transforns the watch

@Boogenhagen100 9 месяцев назад

Made it all the way until 10:15,then I heard the price, holy crap. Of course I’m a cheap bastard, but DAMN.

@losangeles9320 8 месяцев назад

What a beauty !!

@Koishishibaman 8 месяцев назад

I have a version of this watch. Reallly nice quality for a great price. Also have a meteorite dial sport watch. Very handsome.

@roddunne 9 месяцев назад

Touch of class about that!!

@TinBin-Craig 8 месяцев назад

wize do some great watches nice watch love it... cheers

@sinjinadams2862 9 месяцев назад

Did I miss it or did you not say what movement was in this watch. The watch looks nice enough and does appear to be well made. I really like the color and texture of the dial. Unfortunately for me it's just another dive watch and there isn't anything special enough about it for me to buy it and I love dive watches.

@ilikewatches 9 месяцев назад

I mentioned it but didn’t dwell on it so easily missed…9015

@adk7962 9 месяцев назад

Definitely a great price for the specs and design. They do seem a little underrated. Thanks for the great review.

@kickstothehead3705 8 месяцев назад

Yes I agree wholeheartedly

@blackwingvisuals5017 4 месяца назад

Nice!

@mikesheehan5946 9 месяцев назад

WISE - in what looks to be in Arial font is a huge, boring turnoff for me! When you open a fancy box and the branding is in Arial, it's no longer fancy. Everything else looks great but I can't forgive the logo. I've thought this before. It's like they sent a design to be printed/manufactured but didn't embed the font and Arial was the default fallback (has happened to me before)

@thebestoffools 9 месяцев назад

Gorgeous!

@kickstothehead3705 8 месяцев назад

I love It have the brown and grey one it’s my favorite watch classy little diver that jus feels like it’s punching up at the big boys . If seiko made it it would be 2000

@jacc88888 9 месяцев назад

Classy watch. Why don’t Grand Seiko use 904 steel? Can you imagine how the polishing would look?! Thanks for the review.

@AlexanderB. 9 месяцев назад

I'm a bit torn about this watch. On the one hand I love the dial and how the dial plays on it and the overall design, the handset etc. On the other hand it's the case finishing I'm not excited about. Sure, they want to show off their case finishing by polishing that 904L steel and out of the box it looks fantastic. But as 904L is even softer than 316L and the case is fully polished, that splendor is not going to last. When being worn regularly this this is going covered in scratches. Besides I think a mostly brushed case would go better with a tool watch like this.

@jaysterling26 9 месяцев назад

I just did some research ( er...rabbit hole..?) on 904 after reading Rolex article on Fratello . You're correct about the polishing. My conclusion on why Rolex ( & not even Tudor) use it is because it is a shinier material and then the manufacturer has to set -up a whole different production line to deal with it ( apprently 904 isn't more expensive steel than 316 but I could be wrong about my whole conclusion & I guess everyone inc. yourself knows this already..) than 316 so more investment & shiny object = more aesthetic and cost or a Veblen good in the case of Rolex(?).

@AlexanderB. 8 месяцев назад

@@jaysterling26Thank you for sharing! Couldn't agree more about Rolex watches being Veblen goods!

@HORIZONTIMEPASSIONEOROLOGI 9 месяцев назад

now the construction quality of many Chinese brands has reached a point that has nothing to envy of many historic Swiss brands 🤔

@LegendaryGauntlet 9 месяцев назад

And this one is a Thai brand, by the way.

@TomaisMac 8 месяцев назад

Looks a bit like my KSam Save the Ocean, cool looking watch.

@Olddirtytiger 9 месяцев назад

Ooo love this

@wannabe_sailor_777smith6 9 месяцев назад

So many micro brands trying to get in on the action. While this watch looks ok I guess I need to be convinced what's so different about it other than 904L steel that would make me buy it rather than a similar Seiko. Ok, you may say I answered my own question by mentioning the 904L steel. Well, my answer to that is 316SS is beyond adequate for us "desk divers" who will never have scuba tanks strapped to our torsos. Plus, there are so many watchmakers that can easily fix a Seiko and getting parts is a breeze. I'm not against more watch brands, on the contrary, I just want to see some real innovation other than just all of these homage pieces.

@sinjinadams2862 9 месяцев назад

I agree! Nothing really special about this watch. Looks pretty much like the other million dive watches out there and that's coming from someone that really likes dive watches.

@hudldevice1092 9 месяцев назад

Exactly. And, given that - for the use case of most watches - scratches are a bigger problem than corrosion, I don't see why the average person would choose a steel more prone to scratching and harder to work with (meaning a higher price) than 316 - even if it is more corrosion resistant.

@jaykwonzzz 9 месяцев назад

@@hudldevice1092 Plus the corrosion resistance difference is nearly imperceptible. 904L is a marketing ploy so that Rolex can differentiate itself from the field by offering something unique. You want something incredible? Sinn's tegimented titanium is what you're looking for in a real tool watch.

@LegendaryGauntlet 9 месяцев назад

It's the shine and colour for 904L mostly. Please keep in mind that your skin and sweat are corrosive too. Also the movement is a Miyota for which parts and repair shops are easy to come by.

@hudldevice1092 9 месяцев назад

@@jaykwonzzz Agreed.

@joeycan6801 9 месяцев назад

I have 316L stainless steel watches that are 30 years old and not a single spec of rust ! I guess if you go diving in the sea everyday it might make a difference……. so why pay more for 904L ?

@syndicatedsatellite7288 9 месяцев назад

I like fancy over the top packaging for a watch...

@philliprackow7153 9 месяцев назад

Also comes with a stainless steel band with on the fly adjustment... Was looking at a Seiko 62MAS for next month but this is outrageous!

@garyjohn1956 4 месяца назад

I’ve been touting Wise for a couple of years, I’m just not an influencer so no one is listening. I’ve got 2 and am looking at a third, real nice watches.

@markloubser2433 9 месяцев назад

Its a lovely watch. Personally think those straps with the single over the edge stiches look so primitive they spoil it.

@googleuser6972 9 месяцев назад

Beautiful watch

@ianrutter9243 6 месяцев назад

Stunning watch, buying my self one for my birthday(25th Dec)

@firstbornmiddle 8 месяцев назад

Stunning watch! How do you work out what the final cost will be (ie including Taxes), delivered to the UK?? I have tried to work it out using Google but i am still confused, help please!!

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

You won’t always get charged…but look at it like this…best case is, no additional cost to import it, worst case, an extra 20%….

@renngretsch 9 месяцев назад

This will eat into some of Baltic's sales, I think. Good price point for what you get.

@jaykwonzzz 9 месяцев назад

The amount of materials science used in modern manufacturing (of anything) is seriously lacking. Apple uses titanium to make a phone and people flock to it despite titanium being significantly softer than stainless, and far less rigid as a result. Rolex uses 904L making everyone think there's any advantage outside of appearance post-polish (which isn't significant), which is incorrect. The level of corrosion resistance exhibited by 904L isn't significant enough to make a difference and 316L is SIGNIFICANTLY harder, which makes it far less likely to scratch or deform. I'm thankful I operated in the knife-collecting space prior to moving to watches.

@orangedan5424 8 месяцев назад

I have known this Thai brand for sometime...they look good, I am only disappointed they dont make their watches with full on bracelet. I am a bracelet guy..😢

@ronaldnixon8226 8 месяцев назад

Nice Feiko

@matthewmonaghan3122 7 месяцев назад

904L has a greater PREN value than 316L which makes it less Corrossive to sea water👍

@dbcards4261 8 месяцев назад

Would have a been perfect had they matched the date wheel with the dial colour. My OCD can’t handle those little differences

@SaSpursFan 9 месяцев назад

i bought it bc of the dial but returned it bc its a all polished 904L SS watch. Needs a bit of brushing.

@Happy357mag 9 месяцев назад

I guess 904L is the way to go if you want a fully polished case. I tend to like a brushed finish so 904L is just a waste of money. Honestly, it looks more like a chrome plated watch with the soft edges and the color . It would be interesting to see it on a bracelet but to match the case it would have to be fully polished.🤔

@PabloTBrave 8 месяцев назад

904L steel was created to be more resistant to sulphuric acid. unfortunately my arm has no resistance to sulphuric acid at all . Therefore 904 steel being superior for watches is the usual Rolex marketing spin that everyone falls for . Some even claim rolex invented it they didnt, although they obviously could maken/work with it when others couldnt . Nice watch though I love the dial .

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

I like it because it’s a whiter brighter steel

@PabloTBrave 8 месяцев назад

Cool, it's a good looking watch. I'm not sure I can wear a 904l steel watch though as it has a higher nickel percentage and people.with nickel intolerance like me may struggle , luckily mines not too bad I can wear 316l steel if careful I tend to use NATO straps and also have titanium watches too.

@a0r0a7 8 месяцев назад

Best comment on hear😂

@KLURLS 8 месяцев назад

I see alot of comments talking about metal alloys, allergies and scratches... So, why don't they make watch cases out of tungsten carbide? I wear a tungsten carbide ring it has only micro scratches not visible to naked eye and no allergy

@carlkim2577 9 месяцев назад

Looks very close to a 62MAS. You could almost buy it as a high quality homage.

@tommysimsek5639 8 месяцев назад

Nice watch and pretty good review but u didnt mention the movement it has?

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

Yes I did….

@tommysimsek5639 8 месяцев назад

Really? Where exactly did u mention it? At what time point in your video? Watched it twice initially and then once again after u said "Yes I did". Still missed it.

@Gman-26 9 месяцев назад

While I like the looks of this steel 904L (a lot) overall I think Im drawn more to the Rze watch you reviewed a few days ago. I really don’t know…tuff decision if i was in the market for a watch again! 😂 I’m going to look into those FKN straps. For some reason Ive started to develop a rash when I wear my rubber Turtle strap.

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

FKM not FKN... assuming you weren't swearing haha 🤣

@lsdzheeusi 9 месяцев назад

Rolex have been using 904L since at least 1987 where it was introduced on the short lived 168000 Submariner model. Unsure what dates it was used on other models.

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

It has that 80's bling about it. Reminds me of a "chrome-moly" BMX I had in the 80's.

@tcapd 8 месяцев назад

Keep the 20mm lug width, take away the date, and shrink it to 39mm, and it would be the watch of my dreams.

@larryfromwisconsin9970 9 месяцев назад

Nice. I went to their linked website and I especially like the dressier Adamascus watches. I tire of diver style watches with their rotating bezel. Give me a good Explorer or Aqua Terra.

@johnfadds6089 8 месяцев назад

AD7 and AD9 could be for you then.

@Avaddon911 8 месяцев назад

Great looking watch other than the giant WISE branding

@paulhiggins8774 9 месяцев назад

904 has a higher copper content and the L means it has lowered carbon content, it has a lovely appearance

@jaykwonzzz 9 месяцев назад

316L is also a low carbon steel. If it was high carbon, your watch would rust out in a week or two.

@ramspencer5492 8 месяцев назад

The also means that the watch scratches much easier.... I might depend on how much you scratch your watch up? If you're someone who's always buffing out your watch maybe it's better.... If it's that important to you, hardness coating trumps all of it

@moboei 8 месяцев назад

Have you also received Jodi’s watches for review? Iam very curious of your thoughts.

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

I won't be reviewing it....he doesn't even let me comment on his videos....been blocked. I added a comment once to try to point out that he was close to the bone with his thumbnail breaching a well known trademark and that got me blocked.

@moboei 8 месяцев назад

@@ilikewatches such a shame. I really enjoy your content a lot since the beginning and know for a fact you’d beable to give an unbiased opinion.

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

Are you suggesting others haven’t…😂

@moboei 8 месяцев назад

Correct. I find that some of them are very choice with there wording.

@ilikewatches 8 месяцев назад

Yes, I have noticed this…glad you picked up on it…

@saxophone.4513 9 месяцев назад

Rolex used it for a while. Butter soft dent magnet.

@turnbasedtoddy7664 4 месяца назад

This thing looks great, and I understand why they would want to polish it, but a fully polished dive watch is just asking for trouble.

@mikep5478 9 месяцев назад

I disagree. The SS brands like ZELOS and others use is just fine. I own the WISE Damascus. I can't put my finger on it, but the Damascus case almost looks fake compared to others I own from other brands. I'm not saying that is, but it's just too shiny and doesn't look right. I was thinking in ordering the new pre-order GMT with the Miyota 9075, but I'm hesitant. I tried a few times to contact them about a crown issue only three days after I received my order .. crickets.

@JamesG800 9 месяцев назад

Interesting, do you suppose the steel is nickel plated?

@FOURTEEFIVE 9 месяцев назад

The facets arent sharp enough, they would do better to have nicer polishing than a special steel. Or am i wrong?

@tomholloway7566 9 месяцев назад

Lots of misinformation between these two steels, probably because of the Rolex marketing of it

@jaykwonzzz 9 месяцев назад

Do not look at any watch or jewelry-related sources. Look at metallurgical websites.

@watchalot919 9 месяцев назад

904L scratches easier

@jeroenvroomans6149 8 месяцев назад

My God,why such a monster mike....

@spuckuk7039 8 месяцев назад

Giving me 62MAS vibes in the best way

@terrencestone3938 8 месяцев назад

Somehow reminds me of Squale. Apart from it being 41mm i think it looks rather nice.

@Morgan8378 8 месяцев назад

Alright alright, the dial is growing on me

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

904L has more than double the nickel content of 316L and that can actually leech into your skin and cause irritations. Nickel reactions are not uncommon. Granted if someone has a nickel reaction, they'd be better off with titanium, or a DLC coated piece, but it is worse with 904L. It's no harder to work with than 316L (Rolex are full of BS), and the metal price difference is fairly insignificant. In hardness they are much the same, although you can temper 316L to get a much higher rating. 904L has greater corrosion resistance, but any corrosion that will damage 316L will destroy your hand well before if affects your watch. 316L is used extensively in marine applications, which should tell you a lot. Rolex started using 904L in 1985 purely because its the most bright and shiny, due to the higher chromium and nickel content. That's basically it. You know it's not about the salt-water pitting resistance when they use it in Sky Dwellers and Datejusts. It's all about the bling, and a marketing gimmick. For this watch it's also about the bling.... you ain't going diving with a leather strap. Divers on leather... smh.

@johnfadds6089 8 месяцев назад

The leather strap os for non swimming/diving days obviously. That is why you also get an FKM strap in the box. They come with ss bracelet now too.

@TonyAguirreJazz 8 месяцев назад

Wow, nice brand. As a sax player some of the best horns in the world come out of Thailand as well. prideful people

@PapriceP 9 месяцев назад

Rolex also uses this sort of steel.

@wilderbeestmcc6539 8 месяцев назад

No idea what the 9000 movement is or what the case back is made of or details of the decoration of said movement😂 My goodness you can’t half waffle on though…..🙈👍

@lancehatch4475 8 месяцев назад

904 gets light surface scratches more easily.

@robbie3488 8 месяцев назад

Making a watch out of 904l stainless steel is like making a watch out of chocolate. I rarely use my Rolies for fear of dents and scratches. The lazer welders are making a fortune repairing Rolex. Completely daft. 904l is such a soft material.

@LenHere 8 месяцев назад

How does this NOT offer a bracelet? That watch needs a bracelet in my opinion. Certainly would add cost but one worth it to me. What a shame...

@bidipbo 9 месяцев назад

I disagree with the premise in the video title. I have had the 116660 and now the 126660, but I have also owned the 16610. No one needs extra corrosion resistant SS for their watch's case and bracelet, principally because the days of using a Rolex as a tool watch have become history and the stuff of legend. Most collectors also have a penchant for keeping their watches in good-excellent condition and own multiple watches and have designated some of those pieces as 'beaters'. It does not matter the price point of the watches in the collection. Most of my 31 watches now are 'cheap', but that doesn't mean I love them any less, or treat them as beaters. In fact, every time I set out to buy a beater, my selection process is stymied by my love for the design or materials and the objective is thwarted because I cannot bring myself to abuse any watch that I own. No, those of us that collect watches generally lightly use a majority of the pieces and rotate them sufficient to preserve their condition. But here's the thing, 904L scratches more easily - and those scratches are more visible BECAUSE of the lighter colour of the steel alloy. My 116660 looked as if it had been sand blasted by the time I sold it. I had worn that watch day and night and having lived in a beach community, it really was sand blasted. But here's the thing: I hadn't put that watch through any professional rigours and it still looked like shit when I sold it. I just took receipt of a Karajan SNR025 and the high polished edges and bezel have blown me away. Having just held it side by side with my 126660 to compare lustre, the difference is negligible when the comparison is about the high polished surfaces. The satin finishing does reveal a lighter tone with 904L. No, 316L is superior. If more companies put more elbow grease and TLC into the finishing of the case and bracelet, we wouldn't be seriously entertaining a softer steel that is more corrosion-resistant, because none of us are dealing with the elements or chemicals that are corrosive to SS. And, I expect that if there are those folks out there, they are removing their watch first.

@Hrethgir 9 месяцев назад

I know 904L stainless has a higher nickle content, does anyone know how this will affect people with a nickle allergy?

@thegorn 9 месяцев назад

It has more than double the nickel of 316L and I have read over the years how people can't wear Rolex because of it. If you live in humid environments especially.

@Hrethgir 8 месяцев назад

@@thegorn Another reason to not add a Rolex to the collection. My original wedding ring was sterling silver, and the recipe mine used had nickel in it. About 5 years later, I started getting an itchy trash under the ring, and eventually some blisters. Take the ring off for a week, and it healed up. Put it back on, back it comes. I learned the prolonged contact with nickel will give you a nickel allergy, and I have it now, so if I can ever afford a Rolex, it's going to have to be something I only wear once in a while, I guess.

@kresimirpleic 8 месяцев назад

904 is not harder to work with than 316l - it's easier. 904 is softer than 316l so it scratches more easily, but it's also easier to buff out. Superior corrosion resistance of 904 is useless in real life because your 316l watch will never get corroded anyway. So it all comes down to marketing and minor cosmetic differences. There is literally nothing inherently more premium about 904 compared to 316l - both are industrial grade steels. Like another commentator here pointed out - luster is precious metals territory, and if you want scratch resistance, go to Sinn or Damasko or other brands that use hardened steel.