What's even more awkward is his tossing arm. It almost goes limp and folds over his head. I used to train myself to turn slightly before the toss, to have my back slightly towards the net, so that I am focused only on the toss, and the ball, and not the court/result of the serve. It's tempting to want to see the result of your serve before it's happened, but his tossing arm and shoulder position, however awkward it may be, prevents that.
Normal to me is the Stanford Uni VHS series in the '80s called SyberVision, which used computer-animated technology along with Stan Smith's serve on replay mode to get the motion in the viewer's mind
Not only beautiful, but efficient. No need to use more energy than needed to produce maximum results, especially if you’re playing a match in the hot sun and it can go on 2 hours.
Yup, so agree. The wrist cocking, the way he use his body against his arm to control the toss. Same exact thing as Roddick. But times 2? or times a 100, who knows. I call it chicken serve (with the racket being the beak pecking at the ground)
@@liamkingsbury7438 No, I appreciate that actually because I genuinely don’t know the term😂 I mean, I don’t see it (just looks like a whacky serve to me), but thanks for the explanation😉
Biggest things are point of contact, velocity of racquet, angle at which the ball is hit. No need to analyze all that bs in the beginning probably just what he’s been doing for a decade since juniors.
@@ReTracer He has supposedly beaten someone in the top 500 of ATP, he definitely knows where he is going. It is shocking that this serve form is what felt natural to him though! Also he is ranked 1338 in the world
Yes, the whole preparation is really weird, but the end of the process, reminds me a lot Andy Roddick's serve. And it's really difficult to read his serve, how to know where is he going to serve ?
Looks like he was a kid who tried to always be different than other people so he came up with the least efficient motion he could, saw nobody else even attempt it, then carried on until it became better. Pointlessly stupid stuff.
looks like a side spin serve , in the world of table tennis we call it the tomahawk serve and this seems to have a similar arc in the air and side spin top spin motion..
When I first started learning tennis in high school, I had this video game for the PS2 called “Hard Hitter Tennis”, and one of the characters had a serve very similar to this. 😂 When I was learning and developing my serve, I tried emulating each different character’s serve to see if any of them felt comfortable to me, and the character with the funky serve was actually pretty effective. That’s not how I ended up serving in the long run, but every once in a while I’d break out that weird serve just as a risk and have actually aced a few opponents with it.
Maybe he has an injury to some part of his body and he had to develop a service motion that bypasses the possible injury? Otherwise, he developed this to intimidate or have opponents watching the motion instead of the ball. Patrick was doing his best to be complimentary about the motion but it is hard to say something nice about that motion
There is a lot of excess motion, which is fine. Many people pronate their wrist before the service motion has started. We see this with Andy Roddick, John Isner, and Evo Karlovic. All huge servers, and the initial pronation helps to propagate more pronation through contact. Not a bad motion, but all that extra movement in his routine doesn't add anything to his serve, other than being a comforting routine he's used to. Like Nadal's strange routines he does.
This kind of reminds me of a baseball pitcher. They will often keep the ball behind them for as long as possible to help hide the pitch grip and make it harder to pick up on the pitch. Maybe this player thinks that by doing it this way, it will make it harder to pick up on where he is aiming the serve
This dude is just trying to get attention on a "unique" serve but sucks pretty bad as you can tell by that return straight out of bounds.. & i mean like waaaaay out of bounds lmao, you're too busy talking about his weird serve you forget how bad he is lol
I appreciate this analysis because you’re right. Casual fans just poke at the windup but that bendy dance he does at the beginning isn’t what’s strange here because that’s inconsequential 😅
Riiiiight. BUT....he's straining his back. Good luck using that serve in a tight 5 setter on clay or a tight 5 setter on any surface for that matter. And eventually after 10+ years, he'll change that serve.
That is the strangest serve I've ever seen. Never seen that before. Surely that puts strain on the back. His back will get into a spasm. 😯 Who taught him how to serve like that? 😄🎾
The fundamentals of this serve isn't uncommon, because it achieves what's known as a kick serve. However, I do admit that the way he goes about achieving that outcome is a weird process.
You should just get comfy footing. Throw the ball up with a straight arm and bend knees. Bring racket round with rotation. You don't need all these weird superstitions and movements
Funny how many rec players with sub 4 UTRs are down on this kid. In my dreams I play D1 tennis in the Pac 12 against Stanford, UCLA, and USC. I'd trade my serve for his ANY DAY.
