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"I have really only one question for you. Uh, when does a man become a monster?" Oh, now that's a cruel question!

AAA thank you guys so much for the kind words!! Great video! :D

ONE OF US ONE OF US _distant voice: traumatize the lad!_

"how does killing a child affect this poor man's mental health?" Oh just you wait lol

Mortius your reaction to watching him react was exactly how we as the viewers felt when you watched it for the first time 😂

I will do anything, and I mean *anything* for more epic content, I need it like I need *air* , so I thank you kind sir for feeding my obsession! :DDD

While I do love that Just a Man animatic so much, there is another that when Odysseus walks towards the edge with the baby it cuts to the mother of the baby screaming after it and crying as she is pulled away by Ody's soldiers

In rewatching this here, I'm realizing that they establish the theme of the musical from the first song. "The blood on your hands is something you won't lose. All you can choose is whose," is the whole story. At every turning point, Odysseus _wants_ to avoid bloodshed, but ultimately his choices can only affect _whose_ blood is shed. Epic is about Odysseus having to learn that you can't save everyone, so you have to prioritize the people you care about.

Fun fact: Like Athena and her owls, Zues's main animal is the hawk. This is why you hear the hawk screech in The Horse and The Infant. It's too hint at who is speaking without having to say their name directly

Gigi´s words on her next animatic: "In Monster I'll present a little someone that appeared briefly in my Just a Man animatic last year. This shadow figure in the mirror." "This is how I envision the "Monster", this dark reflection of Odysseus. When I did this part of the animatic I was already planning on bringing this figure back for when the underworld saga come out. YEAH THIS IS A YEAR LONG SET UP THAT I WAS WAITING PATIENTLY TO PAY OFF." She told me some other ideas and boy... I think that´s gonna be her best animatic ever.

also in the horse and the infant, something Zeus says; the gods will let him know. this shows they're just playing with him. either you kill this boy, or no matter what you do, we're going to tell him to kill you

29:30 Also mind you, odysseus stops singing the main chorus when the army begins singing, and instead he repeats "forgive me" over and over as his men ask the question. He does not answer them. He only pleads for forgiveness for what he's about to do.

"when does a man become a monster" Thats brutal of you Mortius And absolute killer blow Love it

5:20 "I wasn't expecting this to be upbeat" THat facial expression says EVERYTHING XD

20:39 "I have really only one question for you, when does a man become a monster?" [Casper gasps] [Mortius cackles] 🤣

Mortius evilly cackling as poor Casper's heart breaks is a perfect representation of me, i do this all the time XD

20:44 his sudden realization that THAT SONG THE SONG HE COVERED! is about KILLING A *CHILD* chefs kiss that was perfect thank you for the perfect line delivery 👏👌❤️

Don’t know if you noticed, but the branches of the tree form into a nose and holes for eyes in a helmet. The dark tree literally form into a ‘monster’.

You had an evil laugh moment at the beginning of just a man

Was SO MUCH FUN to watch this with you, Mortius! I hope you guys all enjoyed the reaction!

You've entered stage 2 of the Epic infection: seeking out uninfected potential hosts to spread it too~ ONE OF US ONE OF US!!

The child being dropped from the palace walls are canon within the story of the Odyssey as well. In most retellings, the mother of the child is even either forced to watch or watched her child get killed by fall damage as she herself is taken away to be a prisoner. Wolfy shows this scene really well in one of her animatics of it.

_ONE OF US!_ _ONE OF US!_ _ONE OF US!_

The eagle is Zeus' sacred animal. So the eagle in those scenes is Zeus appearing in eagle form. Astyanax's death is definitely from the Odyssey, but there are two versions. The most common is that Odysseus throws him from the walls. But there is also a version where Achilles' son, Neoptolemus, or Pyrrhus, dashes his head against a wall. This is the character referred to as "Neo" in The Horse and the Infant.

Another connection about the Helmet-In the original Illiad, which chronicles the tale of the Trojan War, when the father goes to pick up his son (the infant in this song), the child starts crying in his arms because the helmet that Hector is wearing is hiding his face-the toddler cannot tell the difference between his own father and a monster, when the shadow of war is obscuring the face of someone he loves.

31:50 in the Odyssey, there is a council vote on whether or not to kill the child. Odysseus voted to kill the child. Either him or Achilles’ son threw the baby over the trojan wall.

No matter what song, or who is reacting, I will immediately click on anything related to *EPIC* . Thank you for speeding the word, and posting more reactions!

"Like, SUPER MARIO ODISSEY?" BRO 😂

One thing I really love about The Horse and the Infant is that you can hear the steady ticking of a clock in the background which signifies Athena's heavy influence on Odysseus.

My thanks to you for growing the *WINION ARMY!*

A lot of the end of the trojan war, including the horse, isn't actually in the Odyssey. There's a gap between the Illiad and the Odyssey where we have a lot of fragmented narrative elements born out of the same oral storytelling tradition as the Epics, but different versions. As far as I'm aware, Hector's son (Astyanax, btw) dies in every version where he's mentioned. Granted, not all of them have Odysseus as the one killing him (sometimes it's just "the Greeks" with no specific killer mentioned, and some versions have Neoptolomus (son of Achilles, referrered to as Neo in The Horse and the Infant. Achilles was killed by Paris, who was one of Hector's brothers.) being the one to kill him.

So the characters have been confirmed from Jay himself it is Zeus (played by Luke Holt) in the first song and the bird is an Eagle that represents Zeus a lot of the Greek gods have symbols and animals that also represent them so it’s pretty cool Jay has added a bit of it into the songs!

I love the double meaning of "I'm just a man" too! "I'm just a man, I can't defy gods. I'm just a man, I can't make a decision like this. I'm just a man, forgive me."

I love that little evil laugh moment you had right when ‘Just A Man’ started 😂

Oh, something that another fan noticed, firstly Athena sings “mind” on only one high note (Odysseus sings it “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” using a few notes), after that he and Athena sing it with Athena’s one high note and Odysseus’ few notes, and the second duo has both of them singing “mi-i-i-i-i-ind” showing their connection and harmonization. Athena stays in the few notes at the end. You could also show drifting away in the same way. Another thing, adding to the angel and devil thing, the lower voice represents the harshness of the character, while Polites’ high voice showcases his optimism. It’s also supposed to differentiate them, cause one said ‘go attack them’ and the other says ‘go and be friends with them’. Fun fact: Athena is a maiden goddess. The children of Athena made out of thoughts thingy was made for PJO exclusively. And an owl is Athena’s sacred animal. And look out for ‘the danger theme’. There is a motif in music called the danger theme added by Jay. “When does a man become a monster?” You know when. Annabeth from SoM and Polites parallel but a bit different

I love the expressions of Mortius waiting for the comments of his friend! 😂

Mortius is all of us when we show friends stuff we love. Just. The reactions to a friends reactions make this soooo much funnier.

Yes! Yes! Inject more Epic content into my veins!

Mortius' evil laughter as he played the next song was priceless

I love this guy! Great attitude dude, keep being yourself. The evil cackling at his horror at Just A Man XD

I am now convinced that big man set out the just a man song super like popular then set out the rest cuz. I listened to just a man for like 6 months before i listed to the rest… TO THE POINT that it became my mom’s favorite song….. i ended up needing to tall my mom the real story and it make us both cry

That's why I love the animatics, they add meaning and understanding to the lyrics, which are already so perfect on their own. I also struggle with auditory processing and the animatics really help. I hope you will react to the underworld saga with animatics too.

"This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!" -Nute Gunray

favorite part of this was relating to you, watching you as he reacts to the song just reminds me of myself showing my friends things.

26:00 the thing that at first he was holding baby like it was his own but now he is holding it like an object. That he lost the empathy in order to not feel that guilty.

There’s a couple variations of the odyssey, one where Odysseus does in fact drop the infant, and other versions where one of his soldiers… I forget the name of said soldier… is the one to kill the infant. So really the infant dies either way but Jorge chose the one that would best tell the story he wanted which was Odysseus himself.

Why is his cackle the same one book readers of Game of Thrones had when their friends watched the Red Wedding

can i just say how much i love the dynamic between you two! I love your excitement in getting to share the musical, as well as your ability to give insight and clarity, meanwhile Casper brings an entirely different perspective. Cant wait to see more of these!!

Oh god! People! Get ready!!!

19:14 I HAD THE SAME REACTION. I LITERALLY PAUSED BECAUSE I WAS SO SURPRISED. Casper's like Tiresias with that prophetic phrasing.

Remember the good old days when Diomedes would lead the charge, and Agemenmon would flank the guards?

Odysseus does kill Hector's child at the "beginning of the Odyssey" or the end of the Iliad. Or in another side poem idk but it is canonical to the story. He kills the child by throwing him from the walls of Troy. It's dark but that's Greek Mythology for ya.

Astyanax dying in the siege of Troy is pretty universal in the sources. Exactly which Greek did it varies. The Odyssey (being set entirely after the war but making numerous references to past events) doesn’t actually mention it, but we know in the lost epic Iliupersis it was Odysseus, so this was a choice by Jorge on which sources he wanted to draw on and incorporate.

In the original text dropping the baby was the first turning point in which odysseus really started to question and waver in his mentor’s teachings. Greek mythology is also heavily grounded in mortals and in some cases gods being unable to change their fate no matter the struggle. Take the story of oedipus for example. So what Zeus was really saying was do you want to kill an infant or your wife and son. Choose.

Damn this is premiering right when my break ends. Guess I’ll see it after work

"Will these actions haunt my days" Mortius: Y e s

The call n response is really interesting. Chorus: What do you live for? He responds with his wife Chorus: What do you try for? He responds with his son Chorus: What do you wish for? He responds with his desire to head home Chorus: What do you fight for? He has no answer, just tells his men to attack Love that little detail

7:35 I just love how in this animation Agamemnon just freight trains the guards! :D

Coming back to this after the latest saga released and going through this again with you and a first-time reactor…. Sure brings up many new feelings in regards to these songs. xD

17 hours ago Gigi posted the animatic of Monster - The underworld saga!!! I think is the one to react!!

Yeeees! Drag anyone you can into the hyper fixation. It's for their own good. (That's what I tell myself as I very carefully attempt to get everyone I know hooked on it.)

Oh this is gonna be fun

Odysseus does in fact drop the baby from a wall in the Odyssey

So excited!

The chaotic laughter after you ask "when does a man become a monster?" 😭✋🏾

I desperately wish I had friends who would let me have the experience you are having in this video. Ive gotten a couple people to listen to Epic, but I wasn't able to get their reaction! We've obviously chatted about it but it is just so sad to not get that initial reaction.

23:35 in the mirror we see trees as the supports for the the bed, gig made a direct connection to the Odyessy here. **SPOILER FOR END OF ODYSSEY** (this is not major plot but it is how Penelope confirms it is her husband) Penelope test Odysseus once he returns home, in this test she mentions that the bed was moved, which tiggers Odysseus that anyone else knows and even more so touched the bed. The secret that their bed was centered and carved from a Tree. Odysseus carved it, it is their marriage bed and one servant knew of it. This is how she knew her husband was home.

So tempted to get the patreon free trial but I have to wait until you finish the underworld saga so I can see all of it-

the thing i loved is that im greek and we have a subject in class about the odyssey and we never know about throwing the fing baby off the wallll

gigi is such a great animator, it makes me so sad their animatic for ruthlessness is almost never watched by reaction videos

I can't wait for the to react to the newest animations of Gigi....

I know that you already listed to/watched the animatics fior EPIC up until to the circe saga, but I hope you two can react on the whole act 1 together up to the underworld saga. I really love you guy's discussions.

I have to say i adore your dynamic while watching this, the context you provide and the fresh reactions he has make for an amazing reaction vid!! Can't wait to see the vid on his channel!!❤❤

PLEASE tell me you're gonna show em a wolfythewitch animatic. they're SO evocative and well made.

I’m literally doing a school presentation on why epic is…well, epic! I’m helping spread the word every way I know how

I am begging you two to do a duet reaction with the whole musical, this is so great

omg I never noticed before but the tree when it is grown shows the face of a skull emphasizing once again that this child will grow up to be the killer of his wife and son.

Neeed need thw rest of this series

Just a man was the first thing i ever heard of epic and its what sold me

Casper: It's that whole "The end always justifies the means". Me *automatically*: FRIENDS TURN TO FOES IN RIVALRIES! *Continues playing mentally and singing "Keep your friends close"** (Edit: This is one of my fav songs in EPIC 😅😅)

YOU'RE FRIENDS WITH MIRCSY NOW?! That's awesome!

Watching the shadow tree grow from the infant now, all I can think about is the tree from the garden of Edan.

We need all of his reactions with you. Every single one. I've subscribed to his channel to make sure I don't miss a beat. I really and truly wish I had people in my life who could share my passion for music and musicals like you do. I got my husband into this musical, and I've gotten him into several others. But in spite of how much he loves epic, he has a very deadpan reaction at all times to most things in life. Thank God for my 14-year-old son who loves it as well with me

it is thought that the people that survived the Trojan war were 2 city states that allied with the Trojans after they lost the war they fled to latium which would become Rome and archaeological evidence matches up with their style of burial pick up at around what would become Rome when the Trojan war is thought to have finished.

Welcome to grecian mythology. Tragedy is their bread and butter

EXCITED to see more Epic content and reactors! ❤🎉

Oh man, I love people discovering Epic. It’s an absolute blast to practically see the thoughts unfold. ESPECIALLY when it’s someone who knows music. I’m not very in the know when it comes to music, but I ADORE anything art-nerdy, which is one of the reasons as to why I like Epic so much. And, of course, I like music. And Greek mythology. And history (I’m literally a Humanities student). I’m also a theatre kid, so this literally could not be more up my alley!! But rambling aside. I love to see people begin to unpack everything, and see them get *excited* about it. Because we know, it only gets better (and worse, emotionally) from here

Wait till he hears “the end always justifies the means” from keep your friends closer 😅

It shouldve been obvious but i just realized that the background vocals coming in in just a man is DEFINITELY odysseus walking up to over the war to the balcony (or whatever), ready to drop the baby

Your reaction to cf was my reaction to you when you first watched it

The bird is an eagle and the eagle is the animal that represents Zeus in greek mythology. That means that it really was Zeus!

I feel like its super on the nose that the god is Zeus, but it's cool that technically it's not explicitly stated in the song. But the presence of the Eagle screech does kinda tip you off if you know the holy symbols

Mortius, you during this video has been me during every EPIC reaction you've posted 😂

I don't know how you feel about reacting to video game music, but the Outer Wilds OST is pretty great (no lyrics but a lot of very moving music) and Outer Wilds has the same aspect of "oh I've experienced this thing, now I need to spread it to as many people as I can!"

That is just such a great double reaction!

Great reaction!

I specifically need you to show Casper EVERYTHING and then react TOGETHER to new content!! You two vibe off each other so well and your different viewpoints connect so well!!!

Man you got me happy flapping/arm-waving/stimming all over the place in excitement! This was so fun, and also highly relatable as I have also shared some of my musical hyperfixations with my friends as well! Totally gonna go check out part 2!

I'd love to see you and him react to the rest of the sagas!

This was a lot of fun to watch and to see the reactions and the anticipation ^^