One Time At OSP Band Camp 

Leverage is about a crew of "former" criminals led by a former insurance investigator screwed over by his employer. The crew takes jobs from people hurt by big-time companies, organizations, criminals, celebrities, and est., and solves the day through a heist. It is a hybrid of serialized and episodic episodes with each episode having a self-contained story against smaller big shots while there overarching story in the background that leads to one big heist against a serries big bad as its finale. Think of a modern version of Robinhood and its close, and sadly more relevant than over. Overall, it is a really good show and should be watched at least once.

If this is anything like that jockstrap incident... we're gonna need more shovels...

Airier forgetting to cut at the start of the episode is always the best part.

There's a reason Jordan Peele was able to transition so easily from sketch comedy to psychological horror.

8:46 The show's Leverage, Red's a fan. She first mentioned it in her Trope Talk about Five-Man Bands, I believe, or maybe it was "Powerhouses". Basically it's a team of vigilantes assembled by a former insurance agent to find and neutralize powerful people abusing their power (non-lethally, though).

50:30 Campfire is a Writing software that helps authors keep track of their stories like a Appendix app that keeps track of family trees, timelines and the like from my understanding is how it was advertised at least

The worst part about the Nick Fury revealing the noodle incident is the fact that it was the movie with the Skrulls, aka the Shapeshifter race!!! I mean come on, how hard would it have been for him to trust a character only for them to be revealed to either have always been a Skrull or were replaced by a Skrull and then betray him in a way that results in him losing an eye?

(After Martian Manhunter uses his powers to restore Wally West/The Flash's mind back to normal, they ask how do they know for sure that it's Wally.) Wally: "Back when Green Lantern was in the Marines, his nickname was-" Jon Stewart/Green Lantern: "Stop! It's him. You promised you'd never talk about that again." (I could be paraphrasing.)

9:34 the shows name was Leverage 2008 not a bad show think A-team only replace the ex-army background with ex-criminals

Dude. i have good news for you. You have now been introduced to 5 Seasons of the best Heist-Show made in America. Do yourself a favour, and if you have time, watch Leverage. It is worth it. If people are curious why i do specify *America* it is because *Hustle* exists.

9:02 this is Leverage, a heist show where a bunch of thieves turn a new leaf and use their thief skills to get justice for people screwed over by the rich and powerful. It’s very good

24:10 Tim Burton he is the same one that made BeetleJuice and Sweeny Todd just to name a few lol

Mystery Box Storytelling is what J. J. Abrams is inconsistent for. Think Sherlock or Lost, where the creators set up a lot of stuff that is mysterious but don’t have a plan on how to pay it off, so the resolution sucks. You can have a mystery, but the solution needs to be figured out.

29:02 i just remembered a old movie that had a lot of the tropes like this The Adventures of Baron Munchausen 1988

Calvin and Hobbs is inextricably linked to the dentists for me, but I still adore them and I'm always surprised that something that iconic had such a short run. Thanks for this.

The mystery box references a term coined by J.J. Abrams in a TED talk where he talked about how much he enjoyed speculating about unresolved mysteries in movies. It's commonly used as a source to explain why Force Awakens treated Rey's parents as a big mystery... and also that Abrams didn't understand some major differences between his examples and his own movie script. While many of his examples were minor plot points, Rey finding her parents is one of her main character motivations (arguably stretched into the only one by the sequels) so it'd be pretty unsatisfying if it went unresolved.

Two things: 1. Leverage is basically about a team of former criminals screwing over rich assholes, it’s great. It’s also one of Red’s pet shows, alongside Reboot and a couple others, where she knows only like 5% of her audience are familiar with it, but will bring it up for any relevant trope talk because she needs to be able to talk about it somewhere. 2. Puss in Boots and the Last Wish is probably the best movie to come out of Dreamworks in a decade, and I don’t think you really need to watch anything beyond Shrek 2 to fully enjoy it (the Shrek movies are barely referenced, and although the deuteragonist comes from the previous PiB movie, you can understand everything you need to from the first scene with her.)

35:33 and this is why i never watched the Solo movie the mystery is part of the charm. now if they had made a extended universe movie with just a few of the stories that had Han Solo in it i would have watched it....shrug

Absolutely no shade to Jackson for what he managed with what he had to work with. But you have to wonder if some people started to bitterly hate the fact the lawsuit enforced lines in every Marvel film. The cartoon started with him single headedly taking down 2 super human nazis, after they wrecked an entire battalion. The Avengers film showed him not being able to land a single shot, from across the length of a table. A short table. Then a cat.

Personally my favorite Trope Talk is "Five Man Band". I was suprised how many parts of this trope I didn't noticed in the past.

If you're going to be looking at more Trope Talks down the line, may I suggest Personification of Death, Robots, The Five Man Band and is derivatives, and Detectives.

There is another small fun bit. In... I think it is Saving Private Ryan(?) the Americans are storming Normandie and they get across 2 soldiers who are capitulating. The soldiers tries to say something clearly but is shot for their trouble, with the Americans saying they were probably just Germans. They were Cheznians drafted to defend this front so far from their home.

If you're interested in scary comedy I recommend Starkid Hatchedfield muaical series. It's has Lovecraftian inspiration

The only time that explaining it worked was in Milo Murphy's Law with the Llama Incident, where they spend the entire episode in a flashback which explains every reference because only two of the trio were there at the time so they are actuallyexplaining it to their friend, but they are also in a Noodle Incident, because the main trio are stuck on a branch on a cliffside and we have know idea how they got there.

35:20 "I used to bullseye womprats in my speeder back home. "

45:18 The Thing movie had Norse man yelling about alien can shapeshift Love from Finland 😄

I know that recent Marvel movies may not have been as good as people expected, but funnily enough, they've made quite a few good series on Disney Plus. One example being both seasons of "Loki". It takes a step back from all the comedic stuff from the beginning. Sure, it still has some funny moments to it but it doesn't focus on them that much, especially in season 2 where the ending makes you feel sad but happy at the same time. All in all, it's a very good show, probably the best one Marvel's ever made. I definitely recommend you watch it on your own time.

42:20 yes it is a cat in the first captain marvel movie. before infinity wars

Leverage is a great show the basic premise is they help people who have been screwed over by corporations

When you learn the noodle incident started with Calvin and Hobbes...

scary comedy is one set up, one bit, one surprise, two simultaneous emotions?

Fun Fact: the Han Solo Trilogy of Novels did "Solo" first, and better☆

The one time I saw explaining noodles done right was in "Achaja" cycle by Andrzej Ziemiański in case of Virion. He was one off character in original trilogy. Then he got three separete series within the cycle so of course all original noodles were explained. However in the same time new ones were introduced

The worst part about how Furt lost his eye is that there was a better explanation earlier in the movie. The villains were shape shifters and you get this moment where Fury gets a phone call from the guy in the car with him, asking where he is. It would have worked so much better.

40:00 and that is one of the many reasons people hated the captain marvel movie.

Dragon hunter did this trope so well. One of the main charactor is Quisto who is a lying coward that will brake about stuff that his friend Lian Tu did. But in one ep they meet some other dragon hunter who has the day of their live by exposing his lies infront of his love intrist and her's kid (she has married & devorse like seven or more times all also noodle instandes)

The title made me think this would be the space horror trope talk

This is just like that jockstrap incident, except now I don't have Ginyu around to dig the holes...

The show is Leverage, you should absolutely watch it.

19:23 I do just want to say that there are good ways to do this, you just have to write in a reason that you lost all that power. For example I had this one character that was this level 17ish wizard/artificer bodyguard/bruiser/loan shark (don't question it, this was my third character after nothing but failed campaigns so I just started talking inspiration from other characters I've seen, even if it didn't exactly work with the characters class(s) very well) in this weird complex magic mafia that took what would have been a killing blow for one of the godfathers (don't ask why there is more than one) and was put in a warforged body to both save his life and test run immortality (don't ask), leading him to need to reestablish his magical abilities from basically square one because the project wasn't exactly perfect yet so the only thing the carried over was his soul and memories. Another less complicated example is Gale from BG3 but I can't explain that anymore for spoiler reasons.

8:10 🤔some other movies that come to mind on this point Tucker and Dale vs evil or army of darkness/ Ash vs the evil dead show.

24:55 You need to watch Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Came out in late 2022 and it was potentially the best movie of the year. You don't really need to watch the first one from 2010, it's a prequel that wasn't that good and only one character apart from Puss, Kitty Softpaws, carries over from that movie. (Basically she was Puss's love interest before he met Shrek, but since they ended the first movie on a good note, we don't know what happened to her between then and when he met Shrek.) The important part is PIBTLW is amazing, go see it

Great thing about comedy is, there's ways to subvert every rule. My writing style, I think, it's kind of a love it or hate it type. In something I'm writing, a character says a cheesy one-liner pun mid-combat that's deliberately straightforward and terrible. Almost no one would need this explained. So, of course, still mid-combat, the narration itself goes on to briefly explain the joke. "Get it? Yeah, I’m sure you get it. That’s something I appreciate about you, you understand good one-liners when you read them. Anyway, while I was explaining the joke..." as though actual time were passing and we've been missing stuff. And crucially, this is a very rare type of joke. If you overuse it, it gets bad fast. But the way this handles it is confident, goofy, like a friend telling you a funny story, rather than shutting things down, getting awkward about it, riffing on how terrible the joke was and doing nothing else. Now that I've explained the joke, do you get it? Yeah, I'm sure you get it. You understand good comedy when you read about it secondhand.

If you love this do more trope topics, detailed diatribes, and more. It’s all good fun. I recommend lamp shading since it’s such a convoluted concept that’s not often talked about.

Okay, so more trope talks would be a good thing to react to. I don't think the Detail Diatribes would be good reaction material. The shortest ones are like 40 mins at least while most are over an hour, and it's Blue and/or Red explaining some aspect of a story and how good that aspect is to a slide show. At least in trope talks, we get Red's art and examples. Also Leverage is a heist of the week kind of show about people who scam those who play the system and hurt others. It's got a really good cast, and has a powerhouse that doesn't get Worfed! Red mentions it a few times in other Trope Talks, and it's up there with Reboot and ATLA in shows that are referenced in Trope Talks. Though for the opposite of Leverage in terms of talked about in TT, I will direct you to the Magic School TT, where Red manages to avoid the most obvious example for the entire episode (on purpose because she wants to give a certain writer absolutely no free advertising and OSP is very Pro-Trans-Rights).

I think it would be pretty cool if you reacted to every Trope Talk

My first recommendation for trope talks is always Antiheroes. The several video trope talk set on the five man band is a great one to go for too.

47:20 I would say it depends on story and audience. There is this whole "gamelit"... genre? where the core of the fun IS getting explenations of system and debating which options are better in comment section on RR. It's sort of like this kind of murder mystery where you get all the info at the same time the protagonist does and try to figure it out before reveal at the end. Characters have options and abilities well defined and clever use of them is the best part of those stories. Yhey usually struggle with "why hasn't anyone done that before?", though.

42:34 If it helps, it's actually a very powerful and dangerous alien that just happens to look and act like a cat. What we see it do towards the end of the movie is that it just claws out his eye tamely Also this move came out before end game, Capten Marvel.

I'm listening to the Campfire sponsor and I just realized... It's literally DLCs for books 😂😂 I almost pissed myself Don't get me wrong, it's a cool thing, but that realization hit me like a truck

42:49 good call 👍

I wanna know what rock how you lived under to not know what camp fire is? Because Im taking that rock after have heard about this for years now

Just gonna say right now: Red _loves_ Leverage. It and American Gods are probably her favorite shows ever.

You have absolutely seen a Mystery Box plot. They're everywhere in these days of short, bingeable seasons of streaming TV. They start up a mystery in the first episode and it keeps getting referenced throughout the season, generally getting hyped up all along the way, until (theoretically) said mystery gets resolved in the final episode ... and it's usually nowhere near as cool as buildup made it seem. Huge buildup + Insufficient payoff = Meh mystery. They've done it in Doctor Who for a while, a lot of new Star Trek has done it, they tried making Rey's parentage into that kind of thing in the Star Wars sequel series. That kind of thing. A mystery box looks good *on paper* but it is really easy to flub the execution.

The problem with fanfiction is that people WANT to create a story of their own, allowing to explore a universe they love...and then one of two things happen: either it goes increasingly wish-fulfilling, or the story they meant to tell gets lost. I have done the latter, and it (and I at the time) was a mess.

To be fair to Fury it's a Monstercat From outer Space

Oh shit I didn’t realize you’d done a bunch of trope talks finally yay!!! (It would be easier tho if you actually kept the videos title in your title…)

At about 30 minutes: ... Sadly it also happens with adults... far. Too. Frequently.

"Scary...Comedy" = "" House". The movie, not the series, with Richard Mull, from the series.

I think you missed what the Campfire thing is actually for. It's not for revealing things for what's already been written, it's a tool for helping the person using it write something. Give them a place to put all their documentation.

47:07 You confused Samuel L. Jackson with Morgan Freeman, who you confused with Brad Pitt. And it's not Pulp Fiction, it's "Se7en".

If you have not seen Puss in boots, watch it and the second one also. Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is sooo good.

Leverage is very good wach at least the first episode

Sir, I respectfully recommend you find and watch Leverage. You're welcome.

Samuel L. Jackson has nothing to donwith "What's in the box!" You are mixing your memes

Only small correction: Secret Invasion was a show, not a movie. But yes, it's still ridiculously stupid. Like, how, HOW was the ball dropped this hard?! Speaking of, next time, you should do the Idiot Ball TT.

Watch Puss in Boots the Last Wish, that movie hits hard! You don't need to watch the original Puss in Boots for context, it's ok but it doesn't hit as well as Last Wish, nobody expected it to be good and then it made Waves!

_ What annoying about terrible serie with intricate magic system is that the Gary Stue protag just ignore the rules they spend hours explaining _ Power Ranger SPD(about intergalactic police) also has a brief noodle episode. The chief ask the team why are their individual report all contradict each other & because the surveillance has issues he ask the team to explain what happened, then each of the member tell a story of how they totally saved the rest of the team & captured the bad guy (which show their personalities & what they think of each other now that there are no proof to contradict them) after that they start arguing(it's my word against yours so who is loudest wins), eventually the footage was restored & showing how a mysterious ball of light(the new ranger) save their asses

Is the title a American pie nod?

.... The Washroom 'Noodle Incident' in all its horror does happen. More frequently than you ever think. By people you wouldn't think would DO something like that. That is all I'll say.

22:58 one theory was the joker let slip his true back story as “a truck load of solider being blown up” just with some of the things he is seen to be able to do ( understanding torture, marching in in formation , knack for weapons )

does all my comments just get deleated

Airier question are you not reacting to bricky anymore or are you just giving your wallet a break

I would like for You to watch details diatrive super sayan

This feels unedited is that on purpose?

so, reaction to how i met your mother when?

It's why fans were upset at George Lucas introducing metachlorians as an explanation of the The Force.

It’s not a cat. It’s a Flarken.

Please do undertale the thought au 🙏

9:40 That's Leverage. A show Red likes to bring up a fair bit as an example of various tropes. It's about a team of conmen and thieves who go around helping the underdogs who are getting screwed over by various companies or the government. 40:08 In the Captain Marvel movie, he's playing with the alien cat monster and it swipes his eye with it's claws. I think it's fine, personally. 44:36 I like the casino. I think it's a fun side plot. I think the reason for it could have been done better, but that's not super relevant.