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One Year in our $100,000 VAN (it's been kind of a nightmare) 

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@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
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@mgreer2003
@mgreer2003 11 месяцев назад
Would y’all upgrade to a Class C?
@christinereece7661
@christinereece7661 10 месяцев назад
What a disappointment for 100 grand. What are you really paying for?
@no_worries_van
@no_worries_van Год назад
I wish more people would do videos like this. This is one of the many reasons I’m building out my van by myself lol
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
That's awesome! Glad your building one out!
@Torben-tp1df
@Torben-tp1df Год назад
Pleasure way or something built better?
@no_worries_van
@no_worries_van Год назад
@@Torben-tp1df I don’t know I’ve seen campervans made by airstream that are $150,000+ and aren’t worth it. I’ve also heard the newer promasters having a lot of recalls and problems, glad I bought an older one.
@borandell9915
@borandell9915 Год назад
I'm glad to hear you say that. I just walked away from spending $110k on a new Mercedes Class B. I just couldn't pull the trigger on it for that much money. And that was $30K off asking. I was bummed but I'll find another way. Maybe a build.
@jaycast1386
@jaycast1386 Год назад
That's true some you tubers prefer to be sponsored by those cheap quality rv and their never talk about the reality, do you want quality and longevity, built your self, I lear in the hard way about my mechanic fixing my car ,after that I learn to do the basics on the cars and not get rip off
@JoseeLoves2Read
@JoseeLoves2Read Месяц назад
After watching from the beginning, I think the one thing you missed, was not only what went wrong, but the length of time it took to get it fixed. Frankly, from what I’ve learned, the motto of the manufacturer and dealer seems to be “ put off the warranty repairs for so long that the customer gets tired of waiting and fixes the problem at their own expense.” You have far more patience than I have… and I am impressed that you can enjoy the van as much as you say, with the constant holy dread in the back of your minds of what will fail next. On the other hand, I have loved traveling with you to the many places you have visited (especially the RV events) , your friendliness, and your honesty, and will continue to watch your vlogs knowing I am getting a true picture of the pros and cons of van life. ❤❤❤
@katkg7129
@katkg7129 Год назад
We went the low budget, no frills route and got a Wayfarer Van build. We've had our van for 3 years and haven't had 1 problem. It breaks my heart every time I see one of your "van issue" videos. We always thought we'd save up and, in a few years, we'd upgrade to a "real" class B. After watching your videos, my husband swears we will NEVER trade in our Wayfarer Van. I couldn't agree more. Goos luck guys. Tellaro owes you, and a lot of other people, some compensation.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thanks for sharing! So glad you have a great one!
@anamericanfriend2367
@anamericanfriend2367 Год назад
It figures. It's a Thor.
@traveldreamer4616
@traveldreamer4616 10 месяцев назад
It is sad that Thor continues to purchase other manufacturers. Through time, the quality will be the only thing that drops. 100K is not chump change. Best of luck.
@tedkulinna9093
@tedkulinna9093 11 месяцев назад
I have had five(5) RV's in my life time. (I'm 85) Four of them have been "previously owned". Had very few issues with them, as the original owners, had worked out most of the "bugs". The one I purchased new, had all of the sloppy, poor factory quality control issues so common in all RV's. My advice to "first time purchasers is to TAKE YOUR TIME and shop for used. You will also save a TON of money.
@ms.fabulous2555
@ms.fabulous2555 5 месяцев назад
I also have an older camper van and the materials inside the van are great! I'm grateful that I don't have any of these issues.
@bee-anca236
@bee-anca236 Год назад
I really hope the manufacturer sees this and knows what they need to fix for future models - because $100K is still a pretty penny! I ALSO hope they fix the issues y’all have been experiencing! Love yalls channel and the realness! So many things to consider which are crazy helpful!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you so much! That would be the best if they did see all our issues and fix them in future models!
@gieb6428
@gieb6428 Год назад
Thor has been building for a long time, they know all the issues. They just chose not to address them. They have their dream profit margin and units sold wish.
@JohnSeitz
@JohnSeitz Год назад
Not disagreeing that $100k is a lot of money. But for a fully built out van… it is not a lot. Thor cut corners yes. But also delivers a cost ratio. Which I like.
@captaintomst
@captaintomst Год назад
I spoke to Lamesa in Pot St. Lucie and they were aware of the recall on the contact paper, wrong kid of glue. Then we got in touch with Thor with the info Lamesa gave us and to properly register as 2nd owners. We have an appointment for August 9th. I got the impresssion. they would have a new medicine cabinet then and swap it out. We'll sè.
@edwardyudkoff7137
@edwardyudkoff7137 10 месяцев назад
$100,000 is still alot of money. Where in the world are you from?
@TheCountryLifewithColumbusMark
@TheCountryLifewithColumbusMark 10 месяцев назад
Wow. I feel for you guys. I bought a used Pleasure-Way three years ago. It's now 5 years old and the only problem I've had was a couple of hinges not holding up the doors on a cabinets. I"ve since replaced those with inexpensive struts and all's good. I hope Thor gets everything fixed for you. They owe it to you as you're spokespeople for them whether they want you to or not. After all, this video has been seen by 80,000 plus folks.
@dianeferguson1074
@dianeferguson1074 10 месяцев назад
Ya know whats sad? You're fortunate to be able to do a lot of your service work. I really feel for the poor seniors that can't!!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys 10 месяцев назад
Diane we 💯 agree 😞
@lengraziani7533
@lengraziani7533 Год назад
Don’t do a Sprinter van. It can only use B5 or less biodiesel. I had to go from station to station on the interstate looking for the correct diesel. No one knows this including the sales people but the tank is marked on the inlet. It voids your warranty and ruins the engine over time if you don’t use the correct diesel. When I spoke to Mercedes they told me that this is an American problem and they don’t build their vans for American issues.
@buddygoodlet1112
@buddygoodlet1112 Год назад
We've been casually looking at B and/or B+ or small C RV's but we'll casually look away from Thor...
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Hehehe
@oatiko3065
@oatiko3065 Год назад
Stay away from THOR.
@TrishWhetzel
@TrishWhetzel Год назад
Yeah, be mindful of "Thor quality"
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor Год назад
All y’all are so rude! 😂 (joking, my name is NOT associated w/ THOR.) Reliability wise, mileage, the ProMaster’s are a respectable machine. I would love one w/ 4WD. I’m leaning towards a Ford…. But I have yet to find a layout that doesn’t have gotcha’a. 😊
@angelmission
@angelmission Год назад
Yeah, Thor is not looking too good!
@camrodger8638
@camrodger8638 Год назад
We had the “pleasure” of visiting several RV plants in the Elkhart area while our 5th wheel was having warranty work performed. One observation that we came away with was that all of them were assembling the coaches at a horrifically hectic work pace. There are two van manufacturers from which a plant tour will demonstrate an almost “glacial” line speed as compared to the large manufacturers. These manufacturers are Pleasureway in Saskatoon, Sk who produce Class B coaches and Leisure Travel Vans in Winkler, Mb who produce Class B+ (or Class C) coaches. Please take the time to check them out.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Oh wow. Good to know. Thanks for sharing!
@TrishWhetzel
@TrishWhetzel Год назад
LeisureTravel B+ vans are amazing! Their selection of lithium batteries for the new van builds leaves a bit to be desired, but overall very nice vans!
@naspa0307
@naspa0307 Год назад
We have an older Leisure Travel Van. Very happy.
@Arvanlife
@Arvanlife Год назад
I would LOVE to have a Leisure Travel Van! They seem so well made compared to all the others. Pleasure Way seems a close second. Unfortunately, I hear that LTVs are a two year wait? I have a van in the waiting room at a semi-custom maker. Some folks don't know why I would wait and pay for such a thing, but given the quality of the build for the money, I couldn't afford and wouldn't want anything else.
@njcanuck
@njcanuck Год назад
And the big bonus for US customers is the exchange rate advantage is huge
@musikrantproductions7281
@musikrantproductions7281 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry for your trouble. I believe that brand new rigs suffer from substandard materials. We went cheap & basic with a 1999 Southwind Storm 34ft ClassA. Nothing has EVER gone wrong with it other than tune-ups, new batteries, tires, and a steer right system. We did spend $3,000 for new graphics, so it looks clean. Now, 3.5 years full-time, we're happy that we were able to pay in cash ($22,000), left on the previous owners note. We bought used figuring that any fixes had been done by the previous owner, and they were ... an $8,000 lifetime guaranteed roof that they pulled off somehow due to hail damage. Maybe for your next rig, go older, cheaper, and sturdier. Best wishes. Loved your video.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys 11 месяцев назад
Things we wish we would have known LOL...But we are so happy that you guys have had such a great experience! We love to hear it!
@VinVango910
@VinVango910 Год назад
Guys, you are not alone. EVERY RV, no matter how much you pay is going to have issues. You definitely need to be a little handy to take care of those issues that will arise when you are out in no-man’s land. That being said, what Van Life has brought us so far has been worth every penny!!! Stick with it, you won’t be disappointed! STAY💯👍👍👍Mike and Lu in NC
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank Mike and Lu! ❤️
@eprahs1
@eprahs1 Год назад
They shouldn't be using cheap materials and using shortcuts and charging 100,000 and up. Thats the problem. The price should match the work
@naturalandproud6363
@naturalandproud6363 Год назад
So sorry that this happened. But it seems to be expected for Thor Motor coach RVs. We bought a 2023 Sanctuary last year and it has been in the service center more than on the road. Thor has the worst customer service.
@johntatman9168
@johntatman9168 Год назад
Sadly problems like these are quite common on all RVs regardless if you pay $30000 or $3 million. There is no quality control for any part of the RV and service is typically 100s to 1000s of miles away. Even if you happen to be close to a service department it may be days to months before they can get to you because guess what everyone else is in the same boat.
@BlueBearQuilts
@BlueBearQuilts Год назад
That’s really sad and the industry needs to step it up and build quality products and only use quality components from other manufacturers
@jamestreanor182
@jamestreanor182 11 месяцев назад
I doubt you have owned a $3M rv, so why make that comment pretending that you “know” Newell has these issues
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 10 месяцев назад
"... because guess what everyone else is in the same boat..." These things are little better than owning a boat.
@TC-yi3ue
@TC-yi3ue 8 месяцев назад
Maybe I'll just stick with a tent
@miss.kimpossible
@miss.kimpossible Год назад
I don’t think you missed anything….. I’m always amazed at your positivity! I think that peeling sticker stuff would be the straw that broke the camel’s back for me 🤦🏼‍♀️ Thank you for always keeping it real and making me smile. (Bob reminds me so much of my little brother!) You guys are the best!!!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Awww thank you! ❤️
@Rashnak66
@Rashnak66 Год назад
i too own a Telaro with many problems. (don't buy a THOR!!!!) My Thor spent about 8 months in the shop over the last two years and Thor finally gave up and left me stranded with an electrical system that doesn't supply AC power. I gave up and spent another $6k on a Bluetti power system which supplies AC. The bed in the 20k is a disastor- it tends to slide out on it's own because the locking mechanism has repeatedly broken. I'm not a fan of the propane which recently blew up (sounded like a firecracker under the van!). However there are a few good points- the Promaster chassis is pretty good and I lifted it 3" so it works ok on forest roads(Off Highway Van in Utah- nice folks!) . My 20k has the rear bath which works well. The 20k also has a huge fridge which is amazing for food storage. I do like the awning which is huge! I have my van set up as a mobile office- and with starlink plus t-mobile 5g I've actually worked from the road in some really beautiful places. My next upgrade will be to replace the terrible car radio which I can barely see in daylight hours. ..... At the end of the day the terrible Thor van HAS brought me places I might have never seen without the van, and when I get there I have everything I need even if the build quality is bad. Your conclusion is spot on- good parts poorly assembled, offered at a low price point. I do like your channel and how you have a good attitude even with all the issues. Your sink faucet upgarde is nice! Keep putting up videos and I'll keep watching.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to share this with us! Seriously it helps so much to hear other people’s journey. We agree with all of your points and suggestions. The fact that your propane blew up has us freaked out!
@Rashnak66
@Rashnak66 Год назад
@@Vancaskeys When I say 'blew up' it sounded like a loud firecracker. I immediatly evacuated and thought the entire van was gonna turn into a fireball. Then a few seconds later when it didn't blow up I turned off the propane at the regulator and the hissing leak went away- sooo, a gas leak downstream of the regulator. I haven't gotten it repaired so I can't blame Thor.... yet!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
You'll have to let us know what you find out!
@Rashnak66
@Rashnak66 Год назад
@@Vancaskeys the propane leak turned out to be a burst hose (not Thor's fault). But the guy fixing the propane may even be able to fix my electric issues (2 yrs!) .
@ajf5823
@ajf5823 10 месяцев назад
I had a 2018 Travel Lite that cost $15k that didn’t have a fraction of those problems. I did have to replace the microwave under warranty and my propane heater never worked if l went over 3000 feet in altitude so l used a space heater. The plastic roof vent shattered and l replaced it myself with a metal one. That was it. I had the camper for 4 years and took it all over the west. I guess they just don’t make them like that anymore!
@stevendeam8177
@stevendeam8177 10 месяцев назад
We’ve owned motorhomes of all sizes for 42 years now. We’re on our 9th one now. We had our share of lemons. The B+ that we have now has been far and away our best and most trouble free unit. We live near the RV capital of the world. Just a word of caution, I WOULD NOT buy a unit made from 2020-2022. During C-19 they couldn’t make them fast enough. The factories hired anyone with a warm body and essentially threw them together. Another thing to know is that the RV industry does not believe in quality control. The consumer is their final and usually only inspector.
@RivBiv
@RivBiv Год назад
I would like to say we have been looking at class B vans, but it is actually I, not my husband. We are 59, 60 not in great shape physically, but still hope to go see some things. When I first showed my husband Class B he laughed at me. I’m a large woman so he thinks I’m crazy. Then we started talking about what we want out of traveling. So he would like to see more than less and not go to an RV park for a week at a time. He also would like his wife to be able to drive. This has him actually looking at Class B vans now. I’m so glad you showed all the bad. We are seeing that quality is very costly in these vans. I hope to purchase one in the next two years and will continue to watch your journey.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Love this! Love that we are able to help you hopefully get into a great class b and have lots of amazing travels adventures!
@conchscooter
@conchscooter Год назад
We’ve spent two years and 80,000 miles retired full time on the road from Canada to Guatemala. We paid a company to custom build our Promaster to our specs and it’s been great. Still on the road and having fun. Custom build is the way.
@joecutro7318
@joecutro7318 Год назад
You guys are the best! As I have said before, I don't think I would have been able to stay as positive as I have observed you being (well at least on camera. ) 😂 This is such a helpful summary of keeping it real and the Thor specific and general issues you have encountered. I would have never expected anything I paid $100K for to have such poor workmanship or materials. I only hope for you that as you continue to upgrade and repair/improve the components, that the issues are fewer and the enjoyment is more frequent. Because of your channel, I have been able to share some of your challenges on other platforms so people could be more aware of the pros/cons. Glad you're at least out of the driveway again!!! Happy trails. ☺️
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you JOE! We appreciate you! You have great points!
@judylowe2688
@judylowe2688 Год назад
You guys honesty and chemistry is why y'all are my favorite van life couple. Thanks for being real and I've been their probably since the beginning of y'all van life journey! So I really enjoy your channel❤❤❤
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Awesome! Thank you Judy! We appreciate you so much!
@donnakirk215
@donnakirk215 Год назад
$100k for that list of problems! Built in the cheap. They should refund your $$ 100%. There is no excuse other than greed for this type production.
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 10 месяцев назад
Aren't they supposed to have some kids somewhere?
@KevinMcClish
@KevinMcClish Год назад
We had the same issue with the paper on the cuboards peeling off. We have the same as you a 2022 Thor Tellaro. They told us there was a recall on the paper and they did order and replace it under the Thor warranty.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
No way! Thanks for telling us! We had no idea.
@stevemellor7989
@stevemellor7989 Год назад
I've been thinking of leaving my class A RV, and opting for a class B for better travel. Ok, now I'm thinking of leaving both classes :) I don't really need to trade one problem for another. So glad I got to see this video to see what it could be like. Maybe, the answer is to build out your own simplistic travel van.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
If you are not in a hurry then building one out is probaly the best bet.
@DazednConfused0
@DazednConfused0 10 месяцев назад
Been looking at class b's and c's for a while. Always had thought in the back of my mind that said, be careful, niche small volume vehicles will bite me in the asp. Great video, thanks
@DavidCosson-n5u
@DavidCosson-n5u Год назад
Nicest couple ever! Don't know how they can be so calm in light of so many defects. Very helpful info done very well!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Wow, thank you!
@dflowers1477
@dflowers1477 Год назад
Wow! We’ve been discussing trading in our ‘94 Roadtrek for a new class B. We’ve seldom ever had issues. Light bulbs, belts, water pump, water heater rod. Thank you so much for this information.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Glad to help! Glad you've never had major issues!
@constancecondit4349
@constancecondit4349 11 месяцев назад
We bought a old 1997 Road-trek for 11K a few years ago, had a wonderful time camping for a few years and sold it for 11K when I had health problems. I learned to work on that baby and all its accessories. Great times. These new vehicles are so expensive and complicated.
@laurakilmer8652
@laurakilmer8652 11 месяцев назад
I thought I wanted a van camper but now I am going to be happy with my Tundra pulling a Rockwood trailer. !! Thanks guys. It is very great of you to tell us and show us all this stuff that has gone bad. I really appreciate it. Charley from Ocala fl
@Febrile1
@Febrile1 Год назад
"Kinda bummed?" *I'd be livid!* I congratulate you on your ability to accept the situation.
@jacquiemarshall6843
@jacquiemarshall6843 10 месяцев назад
We bought a 1980 small motorhome. Good solid bones. We worked on it for about 1 year. So happy with it.
@patricialehmann2035
@patricialehmann2035 Год назад
My husband and I really enjoy your videos. You both have a great chemistry, and your friends are a pleasure to watch also. I would love to rent a van and try a destination vacation. My husband is not so excited about the idea, so we go along and enjoy your adventures with you. Thank you!
@MrShobar
@MrShobar 10 месяцев назад
Emphasis on the "rent".
@barbarapadgett5538
@barbarapadgett5538 10 месяцев назад
In 1985 I bought a Dodge Ram 8 seater van and after 40,000 I had to get a new alternator after it just left me stranded on the side of the road. When we figured out what the problem was it was a quick fix but that’s rather frustrating! Ram apparently has not figured it out yet!
@leslie-annepepin8927
@leslie-annepepin8927 Год назад
We bought a used 2003 Roadtrek 190 Popular and have not had a single issue with it. And high quality material. 👍🏻👍🏻
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Yay! Love hearing this!
@judybentley4666
@judybentley4666 11 месяцев назад
We chose to go with a Casita Travel Tailer…1 1/2 years, NOTHING has gone wrong. Lots of mods. but they were all self choices. Re-sell make this an investment too. Love it.😊
@TTM-GEB
@TTM-GEB Год назад
Check out Pleasure-Way... (and the other two Canada companies that make Class-B) - They are so much better!!! We purchased a 2 year old 2019 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS for $95k back in 2021 and love it... Awsome quality and craftsmanship... Did not need any modifications to make it more functional... And both the first owner and us have had not a single problem. The new Coachmen Class-C 19CB that we had before was plagued with never ending problems almost all attributed to poor workmanship.
@alexanderweaver7066
@alexanderweaver7066 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for showing us your van and sharing the good, the bad and the ugly...lol. I visited a La Mesa RV place in Sacramento, CA. I was pretty impressed with the RV units, including the Thors. You provided me insight as t what to look for before I purchase one. I have lived in a 2019 GMC Savana 2500 cargo van, DIY conversion, for over two years and actually love it. I would like to have more room and have a shower. Planet Fitness gyms do not exist in boondocking areas. Wow
@RoadsofLife
@RoadsofLife Год назад
Thanks for being very truthful about the van. When I started researching vans, in my head I thought an "expensive high quality" price would be $60k for a Class B... boy was I wrong! Once I started looking at fit and finish, I realized you weren't getting away with anything less than $135k... and that was even questionable! So my question to you is... how much money have you spent for fixing and upgrading the van with things that it should have had to begin with? And I guess a follow up question would be... how much time would you say you've had to spend on the repairs (since time is money)? Thanks for your videos. Be seeing you!
@grayandgrumpy
@grayandgrumpy Год назад
For reference we have about $80K in our build ($53K for the 2022 Promaster). I went overboard with 600 ah of battery and 800 watts of solar.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
nice!
@christy2love
@christy2love Год назад
Vancaskey’s!! I love your energy! I appreciate your husband when he says he doesn’t know how to do something. ❤ I have been bingeing on your videos💯
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you so much!! We appreciate you!
@bonnierodger7719
@bonnierodger7719 Год назад
We bought a used Sprinter for $80K and later found it was full of black mold. We completely gutted the van and we are starting from scratch. You are a wonderful team together.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
No way! That's terrible! So sorry!
@mikerademacher4188
@mikerademacher4188 Год назад
Hi Hillary and Bob! I’m Mike and my wife Sharyn have been following you for quite awhile. Since your previous van anyway! But we are newbie’s as well, we never camped before except once for my wife with our daughter for girl scouts and myself once with my sons Boy Scouts! Yes and now recently retired 5 years ago we purchased a class B camper van from Roadtrek, model is a Chase, at the Hershey Rv show in Pennsylvania. Purchased in fall of 2021 and picked up February 22. FYI, I just tuned 64 this month and my wife will be 70 in August! We are loving the camping! Or more like “glamping”. Doing some boondocking but preferably at least plugged in for a/c. We both subscribe to your channel and enjoy watching you both!! We have had some issues as well but are very satisfied with the quality build of the new Roadtreks and customer service and support!! But found out afterwards better to by locally from dealership for easier service if needed. So check out Roadtrek if you’re looking. I’m like you though Bob as far as fixing it myself. I worked 30+ years for Budweiser as a machinist/welder/plumber/fabricator you know Jack of all trades and master of none!! Oh well, never commented before but felt like doing so tonight! You both are awesome 😎 keep up the positive vibes, good luck and safe travels! Mike
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
It’s so nice to meet you Mike and Sharon! We enjoyed reading your comment! Love that you are loving your Roadtrek! We LOVE hearing the good things from others. Especially when you did have issues you got good service. That makes such a difference! You guys have any fun travel plans? We are wanting to go to Colorado late summer. Have a great Friday!
@mikerademacher4188
@mikerademacher4188 Год назад
We do have plans in September here in Ohio for our 40th wedding anniversary and my wonderful wife’s 70th birthday celebration at Mohican state park, Ohio. For a week with our 2 boys and other family members! Also the Music City Meetup with Mike and Jennifer Wendland from RV Lifestyle RU-vid channel in Nashville this October, then off to Port Aransas Rv resort near Corpus Cristy Texas for the month of January. We hope you both have better luck with your Mr Lemon! We just got home from Elkhart Indiana Truma North America facility having a Truma Auqua go water heater installed replacing our original Girard instantaneous water heater.(upgraded to Truma) a lot of research, Bob being one of them whom liked Truma and all the new Roadtreks are now using the Truma water heaters! Go figure right? Thank you for the reply, maybe we’ll cross paths someday! Good luck, safe travels to you both!😊
@user-dr2js7bv2i
@user-dr2js7bv2i Год назад
You are very tolerant after all of the problems you've had and are having with the van! Talk about shoddy. It makes me appreciate all the people who have no build vans. Seems like less expense and fewer repairs. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Good luck!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you so much!
@AlexConner
@AlexConner Год назад
Tellaro 20L Owner here... Yep, my alternator melted down in February and it may get replaced at the end of August. Had the kitchen vent leak the non-skylight owners have due to being incorrectly installed. Everyone I know of has problems with the front headliner too, and the BM Pros seem to die for everyone too. One thing to note is the solar will kick the batteries offline if you get sun and it's below freezing outside. Thor is aware of the quality and engineering problems, and they don't care. Anyone watching this video that thinks "they just got unlucky" - no, this is a very representative ownership experience.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you for sharing your experience. This is extremely accurate.
@houstonstarbuck
@houstonstarbuck Год назад
Here is my list thor tellaro 20j....same issues with the cheap paper peeling. My table broke too and i upgraded. Bmpro tablet failed so i replaced it and drilled a hole into the cabinet to provide power. Batteries wouldn't really run ac as advertised so i upgraded to sfk and now have 8000 watts vs 2500. Sliding door intermittent opening problems. La mesa not at all helpful. Thor support very poor on the issues with auto start. At this point ive done like you and fixed stuff....so...if i forget all the issues it is great. I regret not buying the winnebago but liked this floorplan better and the price was right. Misery loves company so carry on and good luck.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Haha! Best line ever “if I forget all the issues it is great” 😂
@houstonstarbuck
@houstonstarbuck Год назад
@Vancaskeys the peeling paper is really a great sign of thor just being stupid. Shoddy workmanship....litte staples shot through the paper and then some attempt to cover it with a swipe of something that doesn't even match the color. Given the brain damage I have to go through to get it "fixed " under warranty I've decided it will be quicker to peel the paper off, paint with a good primer sealer and then paint match the van interior color scheme. The bm pro tablet is also stupid. Many threads on the internet about the power issues and then the tablet going into a loop. My fast fix was a new tablet (60 bucks) and drill a hole into the cabinet where your outlet failed. I then put in a small battery backup that gets charged by the outlet. That at least gives me some room when I turn my power off to keep the tablet charged. My long term solution will be to mount a swing arm with a much larger tablet so I can use it to watch video from the front or swing it to the outside for viewing when sitting outside. My TV is in the back. I'm glad your battery replacement worked. If you decide you want to triple the battery power in the same battery box, sun fun kits sfk...is what I did. Used the old batteries as a solar backup box with a 3000 watt inverter mounted on the box. Essentially gives me about 10,000 watts of battery if I want to bring the box. Another issue for me...when I buy my next rv (I've had 6 now) will be the dealer and their true reputation for warranty work. Every rv I've had failed both in and out of warranty. I'll pay more at this point to get a dealer that is responsive. Thanks for your videos. You've given me great ideas along the way as our thor units sputter along. On a positive note...I love the promaster. I love my pop up bunk.
@merediths2cents
@merediths2cents Год назад
Grew up 15 years spending 8 weeks annually in an RV. I was a kid and loved it. As a mom we rented fancy RV for 4 weeks. It’s a lot more work being the mom. Hate the RV now. We bought a 27’ boat instead.
@jonnygrizz
@jonnygrizz Год назад
Happy Anniversary! I hope you've made lots of positive memories that outweigh the troubled times dealing with the van issues. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Safe travels!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you so much!
@robertarnobit5357
@robertarnobit5357 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the reality check of owning an RV. It's great being an all around handyman cos I can fix anything and those things you pointed out are really easy fix. Even the screen door not closing fully. Great video 👍
@dianabalto
@dianabalto 8 месяцев назад
We own a 2023 Thor Gemini and we understand your frustration with the cheap cabin finishes. We used it only 3 1/2 months, the rest of the time has been in the General RV service dept. Not GOOD !
@allankawakami
@allankawakami Год назад
I’ve been following your journey since day 1 and enjoy the channel and your honesty. Always great content and no matter the issues your always still smiling 😊
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Awesome! Thank you! WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH!
@priayief
@priayief 10 месяцев назад
That's an informative and helpful video! Thanks for posting. I'm not mechanically inclined and I have no interest in doing vehicle repairs myself. That's why I always purchase my vehicles new. All I must do if I need a repair is take it to the dealership and most of the needed repairs and recalls are done under warranty and I don't experience extended "down-time". As well, when I travel, if I have a mechanical problem, there's usually a dedicated service centre nearby. I've always been fascinated by the idea of owning a motor home. Thanks to videos like yours, there's no way I could deal with all those problems.
@jeffsteinmetz7188
@jeffsteinmetz7188 Год назад
Build your own van and make sure it is done correctly, and can survive washboard roads. The anther benefit is you will know how to fix it. Also, little wood screws into cheap wood won’t be safe in an accident.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Good advice!
@TrishWhetzel
@TrishWhetzel Год назад
Thank you for sharing all of your experiences. I've learned so much! Your patience and fortitude to make many of the repairs yourselves is inspiring.
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Год назад
My family owned a rv dealership in the mid 1980s. It nice to see rv manufacturers are still using the cheapest materials possible. People really have no clue how bad are rvs and trailers are made. They charge prices like a house yet are built like a throwaway. Class B are made better then class C but the prices don't match the materials. If you have the money and the willingness you can make a class B a amazing vehicle.
@marthahackett8967
@marthahackett8967 Год назад
Wow 100k is a lot I will stop dreaming about owning a expensive van. I thought a van costing that much would have few problems but seems like thats not true. Thanks for being open and honest.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
You are welcome!
@jeffhampton2767
@jeffhampton2767 Год назад
The van is beautiful. Paying $100,000 you should not have any problems. Thank God that Bob is Handy. Just work through it and you will have a perfect van. Look at it like a house always needing something. The van is great! ♥️🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✌🏻
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Well said!
@fegero
@fegero Год назад
I'm glad I ran into you all. I was about to drive 90 minutes to a location and take a look at the 2023 Tallero. I may just wait and go for a different brand.
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for your honest RV review. This totally changed my primary RV buying options from new to used!
@zeke5687
@zeke5687 Год назад
Great job. Appreciate you both. I have a Dodge Grand Caravan with a camper kit inside. It’s perfect. It’s not as fancy or has all your options, but I’ll never get a RV. I’d rather have less but way more peace. Zero frustration with my van and that’s the best option I could ever hope for or want.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Love it!
@dianejimenez8327
@dianejimenez8327 Год назад
Hello Bob and Hillary🤗 Thank you.. for an awesome video!!! 👍 We appreciate.. your honesty.. and we appreciate you both !!! 😊You guys are great people !!! 😁❤️
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thanks so much1 You are very sweet to us!
@Pinky121971
@Pinky121971 Год назад
Thanks for your honest sharing. Looking forward to see your Travels and experiences. Safe travels..
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@sjnicol1
@sjnicol1 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for doing this follow up. Very helpful. Sorry you had so many problems. We were considering the Thor, but are looking at other manufacturers now. Keep up the good work.
@lisadipaola2250
@lisadipaola2250 Год назад
Omg my wallpaper is coming off everywhere. I too live in Arizona so heat!!
@Gods4Horsemen
@Gods4Horsemen Месяц назад
I love your positivity and honesty. But as long as you can enjoy your van and can upgrade and customize it yourself you will be miles ahead because anything you buy new will have millions of problems and needs upgrades and a Hugh price tag.
@kellycorf9011
@kellycorf9011 Год назад
We bought a Ethos 20TLi ,having used it 16 nights we love it, the fit and finish is lacking our dealer has been great fixing the little issues. The systems that came with it are working great so far . Your videos make our few problems seem trivial.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Great to hear!
@morganborrowman1650
@morganborrowman1650 Год назад
The smooth material on the end of the cabinet is called Crezone and you can purchase it by the sheet. Expensive but durable. It is used to make sign boards for outside use.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thanks for the info! We appreciate it!
@davidpaul1161
@davidpaul1161 Год назад
I am going to order a 2024 Ram ProMaster 3500 super high roof and build it myself as I have a large shop and think it would be fun. Now I own a 2005 Itasca suncruiser 37 foot. I am looking forward to traveling and being able to stop at all the places we missed because we were too big. I am also tired of towing. I think you should build one the way you like.
@LisaLightning
@LisaLightning 6 месяцев назад
You're lucky you have the room and skills to build it out. I would love to do that but no room to do it.
@billnalen
@billnalen Год назад
We self built our van and what we did for the walls is spray 3M 90 onto the plywood and marine vinyl from Joanns. Worked great and we haven't had anything delaminate like yours. Only hard part for you would be the edges, I can't tell if you can remove the corner pieces or not. We ended up using bug nets from The Bug Wall, although they are a little pricey we can leave them up or zip them out.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Awesome! Thanks for this!
@acadrienne
@acadrienne 7 месяцев назад
This was incredibly helpful as I’m researching which class B I might want. Thank you.
@TimGamble
@TimGamble Год назад
Still one of my favorite channels. Keep them coming guys.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Tim you are the BEST!
@mbailey9871
@mbailey9871 5 месяцев назад
I agree the craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired. Same issues for me were the headliner & the wallpaper pulling away. Mine was used so I think the previous owners worked out the “bugs”. Tucson/Phx heat plays havoc with stuff.
@MamasGotKids
@MamasGotKids 4 месяца назад
My boyfriend and I are looking to buy a van for part time use in a couple of years (trips of maybe 3 months on the road at a time. We are moving from Seattle to Phoenix in the fall but know we want to be out of the area during the hottest summer months, hence vanlife). Your videos have been great for giving me an idea of things to look for. And I'm happy to see there are so many Class B shows in the Phoenix area!
@minvonuk
@minvonuk Год назад
On a positive note 😂 let’s hope this video goes viral, rv sales are down over 50% this year….. love your videos ❤️
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
😂😂😂👍
@Dink1963
@Dink1963 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. Just starting my search.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys 6 месяцев назад
Awesome! Hope you find the perfect one for you!
@gerryc270
@gerryc270 Год назад
You guys are hysterical. After the problems with the first Thor I was surprised you bought a second. Take a look at Pleasure Way - I did a lot of homework into builder reputations before making our first van purchase and theirs seemed to be one of the best of the bunch. Two years in without any real problems at all. Like you guys, our first van is a bare bones affair - Pleasure Way Tofino - but we now have our eye on the Ontour 2.0 or Ascent. Good luck and make the manufacture repair EVERYTHING!
@billporter5221
@billporter5221 Год назад
I've been following you since the beginning and I want to thank you for convincing me and my wife not to buy one of any configuration. We're in our late 70s and there is no way that I can fix any of the stuff that Bob has. So once again thank you for saving us a bunch of money and aggravation.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Glad to help! We do love having a van but you are right if you are not able to fix stuff it might sit in the RV repair more than you get to use it. Thanks for being here since the beginning!
@billporter5221
@billporter5221 Год назад
I will continue to watch you guys because you're fun
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
@@billporter5221 Thanks Bill!
@superchops5150
@superchops5150 10 месяцев назад
This has been helpful. I have decided to rent when I want to get away. Even rent a van and just throw a mattress in the back.
@ZebaKnight
@ZebaKnight Год назад
Yikes. This video is a big help. Thank you. I keep daydreaming and fantasizing about a possible van... This video helps me keep my head straight about the need to find (and pay for) a first-rate vehicle and build. I live in the northeast, which means that it would probably be tough to get anything worked on by the builder under warranty because so many builders are located west of the Mississippi. Kudos for doing all you described - but I couldn't do any of them!
@kelfarley
@kelfarley Год назад
"____ Days since last incident" - Love your sense of humor! Sometimes, you just have to laugh.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Haha! Truth!
@Linda-yz8ss
@Linda-yz8ss Год назад
anything built after covid was put together fast, built cheap, and sold high. I like my camper, a Casita, fiberglass cabinets that look like nice white plastic, the doors are particleboard with a stick on wood look alike plastic, never came off anywhere, after 12 years. I take it down many very bumpy roads, I never lost anything more than 1 screw, they used rivets like an airplane and an airstream. These Ford and other brand vans were made quick, full of too many bells and whistles. Simple is best when it comes to homes that move. The less electronics, the better.
@JJacks920
@JJacks920 8 месяцев назад
Yeas. They say 2020, 21, 22 do not buy because of sub par workmanship.
@reginardennis
@reginardennis 2 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing! I was considering a Thor van, I am now reconsidering it.
@EvilNightNurse
@EvilNightNurse Год назад
I can relate, we were so happy when we were able to trade off our Le’ Mon
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
😂 glad you were able too!
@evazee772
@evazee772 Год назад
You guys are Awesome being so Transparent. Thank you!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
You are welcome!
@dmo4032
@dmo4032 Год назад
your microwave outlet might be on a GFCI circuit. Look to see if you have any 120v outlets with a reset button on it that might be tripped.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
We checked that and that didn't work...Bob thinks it might be a bad breaker! Thanks for helping us though!
@fredschuman8495
@fredschuman8495 Год назад
outlets have punchdown connection to 110 wires in back. Check for loose wire. We replaced all breakers with AFGFCI for this reason. Sprinter van owner, same song as yours, second verse.
@dani_mack
@dani_mack Год назад
Wow. 😣I'm so sorry you've experienced all that! Feeling super grateful I went with an empty cargo van (same one you have) and a professional builder. I've only had it 7 months, but so far so good! Also, thank you for reminding me of one of the EXTREMELY few advantages of being 4'9". 😄
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Haha! Sounds like you made the right choice. Being 4'9" has major advantages with Van life!
@coletteshock1466
@coletteshock1466 10 месяцев назад
Ok I have a 2021 Tellaro too. My alternator went out and had to be replaced, plus the radiator 2k repair, AC compressor, and my crank shaft . RV house replacements: awning, water pump, CO2 meter and propane holes split. I’ve been driving it for over a year it’s at 43k miles and I’m done. Crazy that a new purchase has so many issues.
@ms.fabulous2555
@ms.fabulous2555 5 месяцев назад
SURPRISENLY, the older camper vans are made better than the newer ones. The newer ones have cheaper materials. I have an older camper van and there's no cheap materials in my van. It's solid and I love it. GREAT video, Thanks!
@brianvankley3529
@brianvankley3529 4 месяца назад
I’ve seen so many “stay away from Thor” comments on other videos, but is the first deep dive I’ve seen as to WHY. Thank you for this.
@nezgirl
@nezgirl Год назад
I bought a Thor Stella to 20j from La Mesa RV less than 2 weeks ago and it’s already a nightmare! My batteries are dead, they don’t charge while I drive, like ever and I have taken it back in 2 times so far and I am taking it back as soon as I get back from our family vacation! They told us we were good and sent us on our way with no rear a/c in 115+ weather and 2 kids in the rear! They are crazy and I want out!!!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Oh no! I’m so sorry for you!
@Bota762
@Bota762 Год назад
My wife and I had the same impression on the screen door. We ended up getting the bug wall magnetic closer screen for our ram promaster. It's an easy self install. You help me with my sumo springs thought I'd help with the screen. Love watching you guys keep it going.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thanks for sharing! We appreciate it!
@debbieelliott532
@debbieelliott532 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for another very informative video! Happy travels and I hope one day I get to see you guys out there!! I'm on a 16 month countdown!!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!!! Yay! Excited for you!
@angelatrebor8681
@angelatrebor8681 Год назад
Your review was very gracious and polite. Especially, considering how inconvenient the problems and issues were as you were traveling and far from locations for quick repairs. Thankfully, for the van manufacturer, and for you both, you're an upbeat, very positive and *happy* couple who seems to take things in stride. So, your future travels will be great..as you both are also *Great* . Bless you Both❤👍🌝
@Deborah986
@Deborah986 Год назад
Marine grade materials
@whiteraven69
@whiteraven69 Год назад
Ive been compulsively checking Vans for Sale, Im on a FB Thor page and it seems their are many complaints. Also, the Promaster Vans 2029-2021, the transmissions are going out before 100,000 miles… Prices are sky high for high mileage, professional build outs ..as sellers think they can get their money back on vehicles that depreciate as soon as you drive it out of the lot. Why would I buy a Van with 100 thousand miles for 85,000 and fancy build ?
@suerop
@suerop Год назад
If i were to buy a new class Anything RV, I would be upset with the amount, and especially the type, if problems you are having. I'm 70, with a bad back and sciatica problems. There's no way i would be able to fix the things you've described in your video. I watch Lady Bugout, and My Basic Journey, and Adventuring With Amanda, and they have suvs and caravans. (The Girl Campers group is also wonderful.) They pieced together wonderful tiny homes for themselves. No built-ins at all. They rearrange, adjust, upgrade, and it's mostly things they can handle themselves. And if they can't do it by themselves, all they have to do is reach out to their community of fellow van lifers. I will always remember to avoid Thor. Your channel is always fun and upbeat. Thank you for taking us with you as you travel.
@purposeful49418
@purposeful49418 Год назад
I'd never consider Thor after this review. And, I know, they all have issues, but Thor seems to be ultra-crappy. I'd never do the mid-cabin bathroom. Rear baths are definitely larger. Great video.
@kirkg3458
@kirkg3458 Год назад
Hey guys. We share your pain and understand. You asked what you missed and I remember your radio/infotainment system going out on you. I remember some other leaks in the bathroom. I don't know if you haven't noticed that your awning has a big tear in it. We ended up trading in our class B for a Ram truck and an Ember trailer. No matter what you get, there will always be issues. We do miss our class B sometimes, but we're grateful to be out of it. Maybe you should look at a Leisure Wonder? They seem to have some great attention to detail. I think La Mesa really gave you a bad deal and you've been way too gracious to them. I'm still hopeful that Thor will see this and make it right. They should give you a new model to review and keep and put Mr. Lemon out of his misery. Always praying for you guys!
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Yes! you are so right! We forgot about that issue! Thanks for your prayers! We appreciate you! Glad you got the one you want now :)
@richardatkinson6031
@richardatkinson6031 Год назад
Followed along, great videos! I have a sequence version 2023. I learned a lot. I learned to have a check list on my steering wheel when I am stoped. I pulled the electric cord and broke the outlet, I know now how to replace the outlet. I finally figured out the annoying squeaks and I put cardboard between the rubbing plastic. Many small problems but still like the comfort of hot showers and a lot of the features. I love my Hollywood bike rack and my swing out hitch adapter. Keep on😊
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Thank you! Happy Travels!
@scottallen6058
@scottallen6058 Год назад
You are so generous. I would want my money back. Fortunately, I don’t own one. Thank you for warning us.
@lizplpranch621
@lizplpranch621 5 месяцев назад
i had the same thing happen wit the alternator. La Mesa did not diagnose that the alternator caused the lithium batteries to go bad. total lemon. that fire caused a surge that burnt out several of the systems.
@ramonmirabal101
@ramonmirabal101 Год назад
I feel sorry for what you have to go thru with this garbage Thor. In three months I realize with my Sanctuary was pure garbage I was able to selling right away.
@Vancaskeys
@Vancaskeys Год назад
Oh we are sorry!
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