It was telling to me that I’ve haven’t heard much talk about KSP 2 unless I specifically looked for it. KSP 1 was just always.. there in the peripheral on the Internet
13:20 I prefer the variant of this quote that was used by the late 20th Century philosopher, Mike Tyson: "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."
I know this will get instantly deleted but honestly my favourite quote from him was _"I'm going to fk you until you love me"_ because it is just the most wrong and aggressive thing I have ever heard one straight man say to another straight man... Terrifying!
Side note I still want ksp2 to embrace the almost total input customization ksp1 had. For instance I can no longer bind my wheels to the arrow keys. Which means I can not make the highly controllable mun rovers of ksp1 because the reaction wheel will no spin whenever I drive no matter what I do.
I include a small core facing upwards, and "control from here", with SAS on "radial out". That leaves me to concentrate on steering, while SAS damps out the effect of bumps and helps return to level, fly over craters, etc...
Bought the original in 2013 and all the DLC when they released, the original team had a really good development plan, I'm holding off on KSP2 because it's not bringing anything that the modders did for KSP1 I wish them all the best and I'll still tune in to you to see its progress but its so far down my list of games I'm wanting to play.
It’s a fun game. The art direction and massively improved looks are still the biggest selling point. I did try playing it yesterday and all my orbital velocity disappeared during a mission tho…
Thank you for sharing your particularly well informed perspective upon what happened and is happening so far. The KSP experienced among us knew what the label Early Access means your explanation regarding price was really on point. But specifically about me, I am a brain injury survivor with enough functionality to enjoy riding along with some Kerbals to Jool. Watching the parachute activiies simply takes me back to my days in the 101st Airborne. You spared me the research needed to come to your fine conclusion. Already a subscriber as I am eager to recieve more KSP education from you.
Sounds like you're at about the same level as me. I had meningitis when I was 13, and, yeah, the Jool system is a fun destination but not an easy one. I do like watching the inner moons in their orbital dance, especially Laythe.
@@eekee6034 1st Nice to meet you. Was riding my bicycle and got hit and run around 30 mph. Mangled my forearms, broke my face, and cracked my skull. Left me feeling very Kerbalated however the Spec Forces trained me how to face such disasters. With a laugh, occasionally a beer, and more laughs. KSP 1 gave me a host of laughs, not much beer. That being said, I like many who have visited here: High Hopes for more Kerbal entertainment but not just more calamity. We want more in depth, complicated, cascading disasters to happen. Then once we recover ourselves from laughing so hard, we'll try so more!!! In closing, we are shining examples of how phenomenal those of us who are often seen as disabled can be. Perhaps we can relish in our "differently" abled empowerment. (Yeah, I'm being a touch whimisical at the same time but meh...)
I remember i was invite to my best friends wedding in Mexico city 2016 or so. He married a mexican woman and they where gonna have first a Swedish wedding, then a mexican wedding at her home. I reached out on KSP Reddit and asked if i could come visit Squad HQ and i could. Got some pics but had to sign a pretty heavy NDA. I was the 3rd "fan visitor" they have had. I saw them playing on consoles that was not yet announced yet in a QA room. :) Was fun times. To stick on the topic of your video. Yeah my best bet is that they where forced to publish unfinished cause money will always be money and they needed to deliver.. _something_ for the fans and stockholders.
You might be underestimating how much simpler science is to implement than the other features. Implementing colonies is like implementing a whole new game.
When they say "new and improved UI" and take away half of the features of KSP1's UI, make it harder to see, and becomes insanely cluttered very quickly, I'd like to take a look at their dictionary. While KSP2 may no longer be a hot mess, it's still a warm mess, and they have a long roadmap ahead. I do hope they can pull it together, because KSP1 gave me truly memorable gaming experiences.
I would have paid $80 and considered it fair if they had delivered the game they promised instead of a steaming pile of @#$&. The fact they released it without heating is pathetic, even for early access. I still predict it will never be completed. They'll say it is, but it will still be unrefined and missing promised features. I think the odds are high that multiplayer will be abandoned.
Look, is KSP2 further along than KSP1 after a year? You're damn right it is. KSP1 was almost two years along before they introduced science. And as far as aero goes. Anyone else remember infiniglide?
@@Dynomite42 But KSP 1 had all that in its "early access,” since it released in what we’d call a “pre-alpha” today. That’s his point. A modernized physics engine was essential. I certainly don’t knock the team for rewriting from the ground up since their goal is eventually to blow past the floating point limitations of the previous game. Who knows how far interstellar will eventually let us go (whether natively or through modded systems). The problem is that in doing so, the one completely unquestionable, unmitigatable, and uncompromisable point of the game-rockets have to behave rock solid and perform well in rendering-was… ignored. The rest of the game could have been completely empty at launch and even looked identical to the previous one as LONG as rockets performed as well (or better) under a modernized engine and people would have been happy. But they didn’t do that.
Personally, the over-promising at that price point for early access was too much. The game may end up being amazing at some point, but I now have little interest in playing. I might pick it up after a 1.0 release when it's on sale, but I'm certainly not $50 for an experience that is overshadowed by the original. On top of that, I have other games that I've paid less and gotten days worth of enjoyment from, so I can also wait for game-breaking, mission-ending bugs to get sorted.
This game did just about everything I expected with the exception of requiring such a powerful graphics card to work. Really you get a good idea of how people are now thinking of this game based on the steam reviews. (I don't know if epic games has a ksp2 version but if it does I would not trust the reviews just as I do not trust epic games to survive as a company for a single additional second) The total reviews are 56% (pretty high for a game with a rocky start) and the recent reviews are at 73% (a bit on the low side but still distinctly positive.)
I haven’t touched it in 6 months and honestly it is sad that I cannot get back into it. I want to say I gave my all in the beginning but it’s really hard to give it much anymore time until they do some polishing and more of the game is available.
the for science update was nice and all but i found the science part lacking... i wished they would have kept the thermometer, gravity, pressure and acceleration to be able to see i also would have liked they kept how the science lab worked as it would have given me a reason to make an orbital station instead of just sending a rocket with the part on it, the things i like is the fact i don't have to make four time the same experiment to have all the data of an area, also the missions are better and more straightforward as the tech-tree is also better.
I think the basic science values would be reasonably covered by the Science Jr. and definitely by the atmosphere experiments. Showing us the numbers would be cool though, seeing the pressure rise endlessly while sinking into Eve was great, and magnetometer data would be cool. Sample processing is definitely a ting I'd like to see, but that seems like a job for colonies. Perhaps you'll be able to boost science gain with high-tech labs? More unique experiments would be nice though, more than just "Click science button while here". Seismic impactors, terrain mappers, plume flybys, geologic surveys, neutrino telescopes, something non-trivial.
I refunded KSP2 not long after getting it. I really wanted to like it but the tutorial videos took minutes to load, and so did loading in-between scenes.
How is that your conclusion?!? they are floundering, have made all the money theyre going to make already, there are 800 active KSP2 players. The game is dead
@@durbeshpatel3047 Which is a pity, really. But it's a failure of their own making, caused by greed and the catastrophic project management. First they hyped up the game, well knowing that they couldn't deliver what they promised at release, squandered money and time for things that could have been added later with resources Squad could have only dreamed of when they started, and only now ever so slowly begin to actually get into gear, and it's IMHO too late. When the game released it was little more than a tech demo, similar in scope as the first publicly available versions of KSP1, but for the price of a full game. People felt ripped off, betrayed and mocked. I sure did feel that way. And I won't be surprised, despite all assurances to the contrary, if T2 at some point loses its patience and does pull the plug.
Respectfully, will there ever be a conversation about the alleged corporate takeover? The firings and rehirings? I only heard small bits of information about this years ago and haven't heard anything since.
I did a long video about that when it happened and that video is linked in the description. "Development Team Shakeup". Or just click here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8U-9YZUzGEc.html
Even KSP1 had trouble on the PS5. That is when you get up there in parts count. I did however manage to get my one and only Platinum trophy on the PS5 with KSP1.
4:35 Not always, it was defensively in the past more a thing, but nowadays what a publisher does is not that clear. Marketing (pricing and PR are just things in Marketing) could also be handled by intercept Games. We don't have a clear look into them. Also with the Forum, Social Media and Video posts, I think that intercept does them and therefor also does parts of the Marketing. 12:14 Meanwhile all the layoffs in the industry. Only T2 was spared from this because of GTA, but it's only a matter of time until they scrap projects and lay people off.
Sadly they over hyped and over promised features in this game, but are at least improving it, I think that in time thy will polish it and give us a game that will be good to play
@@FuKuntt well, it's a little bit of hope, because they are fixing and improving the game. This release reminded me of the no man's sky release, it was an unfinished game, but they kept improving it and today it' a great game, so all we can do at this time is wait and hope they fix this game and give us all the promised features.
@@ShadowZone admit it ksp2 is a asset flip. back in 2017 when taketwo bought ksp there should have been widesperad rage and anger, like nothing good will come out of it, but what we got is collective apathy. its just rage inducing that the series i started playing since 2016 would be raped to obvilion.
Some people did, other people didn’t thought. I would guess that the reason why the one technical lead was “let go” shortly after release was because he failed to communicate the state of the game, and the time still needed for development, properly to the people on the publisher side. Unfortunately we are not likely going to get those specific details ever, or for many years at least.
As a part of the " some time later" console community I'm not filed with confidence we will see KSP2 on console this decade if at all. The devs left us hanging for the last update with the fireworks and never delivered. I love this game but I'm not a fan of the "don't call us we'll call you " attitude.
Ill judge it and try it when it hits 1.0 because, regardless of the problems or incompetance of the devs, the publisher charging £45/$65 for Early Access is one of the biggest points that makes KSP 2 a joke. The fact the devs have a proven track record of incompetance over the last 4 years, making some disastrous decisions, doesnt give me hope.
So wait over a year into EA and we’re not even at v0.3 yet? Let alone v0.7 which would essentially constitute the complete version of the game?! So when are we expected to see that, 2028??? Look I kno u like the game and all and I enjoyed the first one but I’m not so sure it’s gonna get there before they pull the plug.. it sounds like they pushed this thing out wayyy too early.
There are 3 things coming together with the whole backlash: - People don't know, or don't want to admit, that Early Access is alpha software and that bugs should be expected and all the content isn't going to be there. - Complaining people are louder than people who don't complain. - Comparing a 10 year old game with a game which isn't even 10% done. It's like a person paid someone to make a house and just moved in with only the foundation being ready and then started to complain that it's unlivable and their old home is the best but forgetting that the old house went through the same thing.
Im loving ksp 2 science stuff right now. Still a bit frustrated with some things like how orbital survery works and lack of maneuver node controls but theres already a mod for mod of my issues.
Eeeh, Covid shouldn't have had any impact of them developing the game. It went for years... There were multiple options and work arounds. Sure it made things different for manufacturers and most media but game development? Uhh... No... That is very much a you can work from home job. Honestly I always thought the KSP series would be similar to the X series... I was very very wrong... Fortunatley I can look forward to the next update for X 4 foundations... Maybe eventually I will look forward to something KSP has to offer...
Balanced, but also still shilling for them. "Over promising", lying, deceiving....it was impossible the Devs were playing it in a meaningful way years ago. So another year for Colonies? Another year for Interstellar? Sure, tell everyone that you are looking at years until it becomes the game that was promised, so that they know what their $50 is for (although they had a sale last year, so that doesn't quite fit your explanation of their possible reasoning for AAA pricing).... but Steam Early Access is not for Alpha's.
It feels like we're about to see a video game bubble pop. Between this, Cities Skylines 2, "Quadruple A" games, etc, it feels like we've hit an unsustainable amount of overpromising and under delivering. I've very disappointed in this and CS2. I think I'm done with pre-ordering. I'd pay a lot of money for a properly done game, and the bar for sequels is that it needs to be at least as good as the first game at launch. I wonder if we've just run out of management and developer talent. It seems like a lot of these games have very impressive visuals and are a disaster underneath. Maybe the greybeards are right about the lack of fundamentals like assembly and C in training new developers? Something has to give in the game development space.
I disagree that seeing delta-v and twr on the vab is "a great tool for experienced players". My biggest hurdle coming into KSP was precisely having to guess this stuff, and feel like it's a great tool for *novice* players. Experienced players can eyeball stuff. Newbies can't. I shy away from mods, but this was one of those very few cases where I had to do it, because you simply can't plan a complex mission out without this information. As for the game, For Science really is a major milestone, but I find myself still pretty much ignoring it, since KSP1 offers pretty much everything this one does, and more. I'll pick it up when some modicum of gameplay involving colonies or interstellar travel gets developed, which I'm still guessing will come towards the end of the year, with maybe a tentative beta beforehand.
when you watch those clips before the release, its really crazy how completely full of shit they were. Just blatant lies about the state of the game. I'm so glad i never gave those liars my money.
the game is too broken to fix! You cant build new content on a broken game, its just making fixing the problems they already have just more impossible! Just bad programmers!
Hoping they decide to add the 'Space Program' part of the game. They need to give us the option to increase the difficulty. It's great that they're making the game more accessible to newer players, but give us back our options and sliders.
I'm not sure that will make sense beyond the early game. The mid and late game is going to focus on bootstrapping colonies and self-sufficient generation ships, where design and on-site resources are the limiting factors. Infinite tiny hydrogen refuel ships isn't going to help build a torch-drive around Jool, let alone a nuclear refinery orbiting a different star.
Basically, they were misleading the customer and lying about the state of the product. If it wasn't for a refund option on Steam it could end in law suit. And a deserved one
Freaking ay. At this point it is still looking like it is years away from actually having colonies and interstellar content,... Which was their whole selling point! Why would anybody want to buy a worse discount version of KSP for twice the money just because in a few years you'll get what was advertised? Whut?!
This is why Early Access doesn't matter. I've played early access games made by single developers that were in a better early state than this game. In fact, I played the first version of KSP 1 when it was made by one guy and even that game was significantly more stable than this game was. EA ≠ laziness. There's no excuse why the game should cost $50 when it came out in the state that it did. This game had so many delays, had larger funding and a larger team versus the previous game. And I'm tired of everyone coming up with excuses and defending shitty practices no matter how bad a game gets. Remember The Day Before? That game had thousands of red flags since the day it was announced and people STILL bought it, and despite the studio lying at face-value to them repeatedly, they still tried to defend the game and say it would be amazing eventually. It's almost like people are trying to cope with their buyer's remorse by convincing themselves their purchase was justified, and that's why people go through so much effort to defend terrible practices and, in my personal experience, harass and sometimes even send death threats to those who have _genuine_ problems with the games.
@@JackFoxtrotEDM These days *EA* is always a crappy buggy experience that costs too much and never really ends up delivering anything good. ... Early access is also the same a lot of the time. ;D
@@MeCooper Lol In all seriousness though, Early Access needs to be used more responsibly. I think my favorite Early Access games are BeamNG and H3VR. Especially the latter, it's a VR game by one guy and it's been in EA for probably 8 years now. The first version in 2016 was stable at launch and it's been getting an update every Friday (almost consistently since sometimes he takes a week off or something) for those 8 years. With over hundreds of firearms and detailed controls and modes, he takes EA to the next level. Originally, his Early Access page said the release date would likely be 2018. But then eventually got changed to "no idea, but it doesn't matter since there's always plenty to do". That's the kind of EA I want to see. An Early Access where developers are super transparent and have a proper update schedule, not laziness, false promises, and a roadmap with no guarantees of achieving. And especially not for $50 goddamn bucks. Not to mention that, while I get the pandemic is a thing, they still delayed this game SO much. What was all that delaying for when the game finally came out in such a rough, unfinished state?
The game's not fun - i still don't have patched conics - its completely unplayable - no other early access i have played prevented me from playing. as buggy and as crazy as KSP1 was from teh get go - i could always "play" the game - even if it was slow - or tedious.
KSP 1 has a certain charm to it. And this charm seems completely lost on the developers of KSP 2. When I hear them talking about the sleek design and the epic graphics, I hear Todd Howard screaming "16x the detail!". KSP 1 doesn't look great, It doesn't perform well, It's buggy - yet no one cares because it's such a great concept. So far my impression of KSP2's development is "We're making it look cool, we'll figure out the rest later", completely backwards compared to the first game.
I care, lol! One time, in 1.8, I adjusted my thrust limiter using a custom axis and only 1 of the 2 engines adjusted. The rocket started spinning as I was trying to land! Thankfully, it was around Minmus so I had time to correct it, but I still don't get how such a bug was possible. How do you even make the changing of a number in memory unreliable? In 1.12, that doesn't happen, but instead, drills turn themselves off and you need to right-click each drill before they'll respond to the action group to make them start. There are other issues.
Seeing again nate in video claiming they had issues with devs playing the game too much, just returns the it is scammy in the way it was releases, how can we get a buggy mess that is not playable, with the claim they had to limit devs play of the game. It just does not add up.
Why would you do colonies before resources? Supplying colonies with resources is an absolutely pivotal part of any and all KSP1 colonization mods - that is to say, those that actually add game mechanics and don't just give you a bunch of habitat-shaped parts that are designed to be stuck to the ground. So if they actually do colonization before resources, they'd better have some truly awesome plan.
IIRC, this question was actually answered in one of the AMAs. The given reason was that they wanted colony gameplay to be able to stand on its own two feet without the need for resource management to make it interesting. Note that they haven't really talked a lot of colony gameplay so it remains to be seen how they intend to achieve this, but they have repeatedly stated they want colonies to be in service of spaceflight and not for the game to turn into a colony management sim.
@@mad_mexican9930 I can see a few ways they can actually make colonisation pop. A few mods in KSP1 had interesting concepts that I'd love to see revisited. KAS was one great take that I loved, Extrplanetary Launchpads had a lot of potential, although it was super endgamey due to the enormous loads involved, Then there was that one mod that did asteroid mining and hangars and stuff.
Listening to that pre-release hype again made me angry. Not at the developers, but at myself for believing it. Many years ago, I made the rule "don't buy games on launch day, wait and see first" because of the multiple times I had made purchases that I ended up regretting. KSP2 was the first time I broke that rule.
Still no fix for the game breaking bug that removes trajectory lines, this should be top priority, dont understand why a craft registering as landed while in flight is still an issue
This may be an unpopular opinion, but i think the developers need to forget about consoles altogether. They cant even get their act together for one platform, yet people want them to divide their effort and attention between multiple platforms. Thats just asinine to me. Focus on one, make it good, and only after that port it to others.
I do have a concern about the "fully funded" comment and that the funding is coming from sales of ksp1 & 2 (I hope I'm wrong on this) but I'm at the point where I'm happy to just wait it out for 1.0 and make a judgment then before giving them any more of my money.
I was at job where we hired a new employee and everything seemed fine, and then the store was closed suddenly because the owners were behind on their bills. Basically people will pretend everything is okay until its impossible to hide it
Sadly, due to poorer vision and not wanting to sit too close to a 32 inch screen, I can't play KSP 2 with anything but visual clues that I'm looking at the right thing. It's been my major complaint since the firsts day of launch, and has yet to be addressed properly. The one idea for a fix I see on the forums from users seems to be ditching the pixel fonts, which are fuzzy at best and downright illegible at the worst. Outside of that, I just want to see modding come in, but only when it's ready to be modded. I'm still hopeful that it will surpass the playtime I have had in KSP at some point. After all, we all play this game where we build rockets to throw little green people off their world at high speed.
KSP2 version 0.1.3 introduced UI scaling, at least in the flight UI. Did this at least improve things for you? Modding is something I am going to look at in the next video coming Friday.
@ShadowZone Sadly, no. Even scaled, the UI text is still almost illegible and fuzzy. I have to guess even at what the icons are in the keybinds menu. It's one of the downsides of needing corrective lenses. KSP1 was, and continues to be, completely legible for me, though.
@@digitalevaI've got normal eyesight, and I can confirm that the font is basically illegible most of the time. It's somehow worse than the literal Excel spreadsheet games I play sometimes, or roguelike games which go for super low resolutions.
Less drama videos, more playing the actual game you claim to support? Id love to see KSP2 work out and be playable, but if the RU-vidr that claim everything is fine don't even play it, why would I waste my time on it? ;-)
Might I interest you in my Jool-5 live streams then? The recordings of the so far 4 episodes are all available on my channel. Next stream will probably see the finale of this journey.
I wish the game was in a better state than it is currently, i just want some new planets and colonies 😭😭😭. Thank you for taking time to adress what the developers said and how its evolved
Could you elaborate? KSP 1 will never have official interstellar travel, colony building or multiplayer, if these things make it into KSP 2 then just based on the amount of features it should qualify as "better" right? And no matter how well modders integrate stuff into KSP 1 it will never be as good as it being there officially.
@@setaindustries KSP 1 is just special, and it is amazing to see how much the mod community has added to it to expand it way beyond its original boundaries. KSP 2 tried to incorporate a lot of those features into it's core game, but is struggling where 'amateurs' pushed through in the KSP 1 community (not necessary with better results, but applaudable results nonetheless).
Those things are toppings on a pizza, if the dough and cheese sucks it's still a shit pizza. KSP1 has great dough and cheese and countless toppings options via mods@@setaindustries
Your complaints about the game are VERY different than mine. First, I am still getting disappearing orbits. That's a game breaking bug that needs to get squashed ASAP. Also the horrible maneuver nodes, the huge labels that pop up everywhere and get in the way of maneuver nodes and ship icons, the fact that you can't create a maneuver node in a planet or moon's SOI unless your ship is already in that SOI, the ridiculously huge and incredibly bright SOI entry and exit indicators, the random decaying orbits that are still present, the fact that you cannot target or focus on any body that you have ships landed on or orbiting, so you have to focus on the ship, zoom in, then target the planet, zoom out, focus on a ship orbiting the Mun, Minmus, or Kerbin, then zoom in again, The random dots that appear and take your focus somewhere near the planet, The pitch-black darkness making it very annoying to land on the dark side of a planet or Mun. I'm sure I've forgotten some, but all of these are very aggravating, especially when streaming. I lose viewers constantly because they just don't want to watch me fight the game every step of the way, for hours at a time, and I'm sure my aggravation shows, which doesn't make for an enjoyable stream. IMO everything I mentioned here needs to be fixed or the game is just not enjoyable for anything past the Mun and Minmus.
Dont Forget Guys KSP is now owned by Take 2 interactive. A multi billion dollar company which also owns GTA. And that means there is no excuse for releasing a totally broken product or early access at all. Stop the greed!!
I wish they would have delayed the game until it was at least in beta quality for early access. Palworld is a good example of what a reasonable expectation of what early access should look like, solid bones and mechanics but room to flesh out and expand upon itself and work out bugs. Unfortunately, KSP2 released at pre-alpha quality and permanently turned off a lot of prospective buyers, and disappointed many of those who did buy. Still love KSP1 though and will give KSP2 a second chance when in a few years when/if it gets close to what was expected on release.
For real. Anyone googling the game is gonna see what looks to be the complete game and immediately the low reviews. Def should’ve waited until at least the for science update.
@@Tom-Bomb I wish that most of the KSP RU-vid community didn’t move over to KSP2, the steep drop in content quality from it killed most of my interest in the franchise unfortunately, though a couple RU-vidrs still make KSP1 content.
@@galliumgames3962 true, that def has an impact. Although I think that also just backs up the fact they released it too soon. Bc of course any serious KSP RU-vidr is gonna want to be right there when KSP2 drops, and since the game sucked when it launched that’s been reflected in the content. So I can’t rly blame them for that. It’s just crazy to me like u said, that they released it in a pre-alpha state. And the fact that it released OVER a year ago and it’s not even in the v0.3 build when they add the colonies till MAYBE this summer. And looking at the road map the game isn’t complete (v1.0) until AFTER v0.6, so it’s like when tf are we gonna see that, 2028?! Whatever way you look at it that is not good news and I have my doubts it’ll even get there before the plug gets pulled and they’re forced to move on bc of all the bad reviews, the sheer amount of work they still have left to do and what I can only predict are low sales. That just doesn’t seem financially viable. So idk, maybe they can pump out those other parts rly fast with the foundation laid, either way it’s super disappointing as of today..
i really hope when they bring in interstellar that we can travel thruw the stargates to a different solar system and when you go thruw have a kinda animation what you have in the movie stargate when they go thruw.
It's disappointing how much it seems like they tried to reinvent the wheel making ksp2. It took 10 years to make KSP1 work as well as it does, but they seem to have started over with ksp2.
Speaking as a hobbyist programmer, oftentimes you have no other option than to reinvent the wheel, mostly because the current code isn’t flexible enough to fit in feature X or reimplement feature Y
I've been watching the community's reactions ever since early Feb. The hype came to the most just after some people tried KSP2 themselves, and all of it broke when KSP2 launched and what I call the "big dissapointment" happened. From March to November the community was filled with "haters", people who hate the game even if they didn't buy it, having Reddit being the most crazy one since haters can downvote any post saying good stuff about KSP2. Small bugs were exaggerated to being gamebraking and a lot of peo sonal attacks have been made, mostly towards Nate and Dakota.
I have abandoned reddit for a while now. The toxicity in the community over there was one reason, the bigger reason is the overall business practices and how they have made the platform worse over the years. I used reddit mainly as a sort of curated news feed for certain topics. Nowadays Lemmy fulfills that purpose for me. Next step might be ditching Twitter for Mastodon. But the space community is so deeply entrenched over there that it will be a lot harder.
@@ShadowZoneYes, the toxicness before announcement of FS! was insane all over the community. I have seen redditors laughing at Discord for "not seeing KSP2 as a scam" and even trying to personally attack the developers, it has gone a lot better since then but some haters are still there hating everything. As an addition to your last video about the community's hate: some haters are hating KSP2 from a so-called "franchise viewpoint". They hate KSP2 because they say it has ruined all the good things brought by KSP1 and to say the first game they want it to be dead. A fairly new type of hate that only started in June.
@@chowcharles480 Hate is an emotion which easily gets out of hand, but it's usually based on something. In the case of this "franchise viewpoint," there are graphs showing the popularity of KSP2 and KSP1 crashing at the same time.
All jet engines have jet/rocket engine settings for some reason. This causes a bug where all jet engines can reverse thrust at any takeoff trying to switch to a nonexistent rocket mode. They haven't fixed that yet, and I can't launch any planes. For 50 dollars I've been scammed out of any plane game experience. What a joke
