My 2nd week I got cocky and pushed it, it nose dived and I broke my hand. About a month in and I'm just now starting to get a little more comfortable riding again. NEVER BE COCKY ON THE ONE WHEEL
@@Chris-vx7qx Same story here, fractured right elbow. But I am selling it, although I loved it. Can't risk riding it with the family behind. I will miss my Pint.
I have done far too much research to feel cocky and confident lol. Although having the knowledge would add to the cocky confidence as far as knowing the ins and outs of the board, which could definitely also bite ya in the ass, because all sorts of unexpected shit can happen, and we aren't always consciously aware of all the ways a nose can dive. One of those things that you just want to allow time and experience to do it's thing, I think.
I installed them from the get go when I first bought my Pint a year ago. Just like you and many others those nose dives come in the early stages of riding when you have gained enough skill for riding fast but have not learned enough of what actually makes your board nosedive. I ate it hard three times in the first two months. First time through lack of skill going over a large divit in the road, second time was when riding up a steep hill and turning sharply into another steep hill and trying to accelerate up. Third time was when I totally ran the board out of battery! Since then I bought a full-face helmet for longer rides and I ride with a better stance that will help me run a nose dive out. I had not nose-dived for nine months up until a few days ago when I stupidly and unconsciously tried to out accelerate an e-scooter but this time my fangs, my skill and my new stance saved my ass and I outran it with control! Lessons learned over a year, respect the pushback, do not accelerate hard especially on hills, keep checking your battery level and if running below 40% adjust your riding aggressiveness accordingly because your board has less power to keep it balanced! Helmets and pads help accident recovery time! Nose dives are for the most part user error! Stay safe!🙏🏾
I've got hardware store "fangs" on my XR for about 5000 miles now. They are great, almost never touch them down, apart from rare times on uneven ground when accelerating hard. Believe me, it's much better feeling/hearing a little "tick" sound and knowing you just touched, than the same thing without fangs where your board does a massive slowdown and you do a superman impression... They are also fantastic if you like to power up grassy banks. That is always uneven ground and I've never been forced to do a runoff up a grassy bank since getting the fangs. 👍
@@Hakucho64 ... they came from the hardware store, they have a little plastic wheel about 1 inch diameter mounted on a small metal bracket with 4 corner holes. They were sold as drawer wheels or something, this was the smallest size. My main onewheel has 7000 miles on it now and the "fangs" have survived great, although have to admit I dont put them down much. They main time they get used is when powering up a grass slope if the nose touches the ground it does not matter, much better than getting thrown off when the nose used to "dig in" lol. 👍
Better way to learn/practice fang-drag and nose-drag is to start from backward and come to a sudden stop switching to fast-forward all in one movement. You can work into it by rocking back and forth then making it more and more dramatic/exaggerated. Also go into a lower aggressiveness setting. Mission is easier than Delerium but I'd go custom and use a middle middle 5 or 6 to start.
I got my onewheel a couple months ago and the second day I had it, I nosedived and broke my wrist. It was a horrible break and my first broken bone. I’m just now starting to ride it again after being terrified to get back on it. hopefully I dont break my other wrist 😂
Omg that sucks, I’ve never skateboarded let alone tried out my one wheel yet. I have the pint and always wanted one since they looked like a solid purchase. I’m scared 😅😂
The board does not accelerate based on the pressure you place on the nose. It accelerates based on what direction you shift your weight. You can drop the board in either direction of you shift your weight in the opposite direction and with practice you can do it consistently. That’s the “trick.”
Here's a tip, don't go that fast. The onewheel is not for speed freaks, its for carving and having fun. If you want to go stupid fast get one of those unicycle things. You can win the Darwin Award.
To me the pint was designed for Kidds as it's too small for most adults. I started riding one wheels as an early investor in the company (2014), I own three, the original, the plus and the XR. I've been after them for years to have the board beep when doing pushback. They now have it on the GT, but it's not loud enough. I've had my nose dives, broke a rib or two, So now I keep it under 18 mph. The physics of speed is indifferent and the gossamer vail awaits anyone that challenges it limits.
Yes, the Pint, was originally to be cheaper, smaller and it's targeted market was the younger riders, (the hover board market) but the cost pushed it to the what ever market. Future motion is not going to admit this of course. but it's true. When I see grown men on the pint it makes me laugh because I know it was designed for Kidds or the younger market.
For people reading comments: One thing to be careful of is false starts and then the board slipping out from under, if one's balance isn't right and they aren't anticipating that it could happen. This should never be an issue if one is aware of it. Then also if one is unbalanced on the board at low speeds, some wacky stuff can happen and the nose can touch and fly away, so when in this situation one should always jump off the board with both feet to just bail out of the situation before they potentially get destroyed. Other than that, fangs seem to be by far the best option for nose-dive safety. slippery bang bumpers are second, but they still have a lot more friction and that's not ideal. Wheels allow one to hopefully instantly recover, or hopefully allow enough time to run off the board for a step or two and go into a roll, rather than with stock bumpers the nose digging in and instantly your body being obliterated with no ability to control the fall. Fangs these days are essentially a bumper and cover the underside and have a convenient handle, which is nice. Just the wheels back then. Edit: Oh cool the gent in the video also has videos on newer versions.
I can attest to the fact that the Fangs do NOT guarantee you'll never nose dive! I ate it hard on mine going up a hill at, what I thought was a pretty conservative speed. But without warning (meaning no discernible pushback that I recall) the board just shut down and I flew forward on the asphalt. Thankfully I ride with safety gear and my elbow guards took the brunt of it.
Do you have the one wheel app? Did it give you any warnings? We have a couple clients who broke their leg, ankle and wrist or clavicles with statements just like yours. Its easy and convenient for the company to blame user error, however one client was able to capture a warning sign on video seconds before she nosedived and broke her leg and acl. She was wearing all her safety gear and still ended up in the hospital for a week and has been out of her job for 3 months because she's still recovering. Glad you're okay, but some of their OW came out faulty
@@brendabalderas2635 I do have the app. I'll usually start a ride on the app, then the phone goes in my pocket, so any warning would probably not be heard. The app seems a bit flakey, with huge gaps in some rides, so I don't think I'd count on it even if it was able to give warnings.
These fangs will buy you the extra second to ease up on the front end, especially on flat surface , my XR has nose dived when trying to go to fast up a steep subdivision hill, I carve a little when climbing steep hills to avoid the heavy strain on the motor. A set of Fangs or a trip to the dentist, pick one😳
Do you have any experience engaging the fangs (more correct: a fang) when carving? I'm interested in what it's like when touching the nose down when carving (at an angle to where only 1 fang is used).
@@doublet147 You don't want to force the nose down when riding, the front end will bounce back up if you nose dive it on purpose, hope that makes sense.
Fyi i think that little green thing is a charger slot plug. You plug it in when it’s not charging so crap doesn’t build up in there while you ride. Nice vid dude.
Yup they work.... have seen a few board failures (sorry refuse to call it nose dive as the board just turns off).... but just yesterday came off a curb a little forward an nose hit and I just rolled for a second. No running it off or stopping. Actually caught me off guard and rode it for a second for sure. Awesome!!!
I’m with you on the board failure. I finally had the confidence to hit top speed on my XR and at 17.9mph the nose just hit the pavement. I felt no pushback and there was no indication it would completely stop. It was so fast I couldn’t even brace or move, I just crumpled like a sack of potatoes and ate the pavement with the left side of my body. OneWheel is cool but it’s very dangerous riding it stock.
Nosedive can be a board failure but also board user failure. Pushback is a safety feature to warn you before nosedive happens. Of course the board can straight up die (e.g. battery failure) and it will most likely nosedive from inertia. It's like refusing to call it oversteer and calling it a car failure instead... oversteer is a result of ignoring or not knowing how physics of the vehicle work. Yes, you can oversteer because your differential fails and then it is a car failure but generally it is a driver's error. Modern cars try to help you to recover but if you ignore their input (e.g. ESP) then you'll still skid off.
@@VanBourner oh I get the technical reasons for the motor/software failure all too well haha. It’s actually killed a man and hurt countless others. The reason I call it failure is that it is simply turnoff and leaving you to suck pavement. Yes pushback is the option they promote but it’s simply silly. To make a battery or motor give a “last gasp” push back to tell you it’s overwhelmed is crazy. Why not just reduce power? It’s a design/programming failure. Imagine your steering or brakes in your car just turning off because it’s tired. And don’t get me wrong, I feel it’s only rider error if you feel the pushback. Lots of us have been injured due to this design error, as it’s simply been a lower battery and a sudden up hill or gusts of wind, BANG! It’s actually a joke in my opinion as just cut back power or at least have that as a setting option? Anyway, I’ve whines enough 😂, Fangs are amazing. They continue to save me from time to time. I’m in my 50’s and can’t sprint like in my 40’s haha so I’ve been able to ride out a low low battery/nosedive failure. Also in skate parks the long steep ramps UP allow you to just roll up if heavy on the front. Anyway love my Fangs and won’t ride without them. Oh and I hope OW stops leaving us riders on our faces. 😂
@@stevorun9865 Reduce power? The power is what keeps you balanced. You can't simply reduce it, OW keeps you straight up by applying counterforce to the wheel rotation. They can just tell you you are going over the top capability of the motor to balance you. I'd much rather fly forward than cook the electric motor for going over the RPM it is designed for... To bring it to car world - if you'd go over the RPM limiter on your car you'd explode your piston shafts and cams. Hence why you have RPM limiter. And if your brakes are too hot? You get brake fade. There's no warning for brake fade... It's physics. They try to reduce the power by telling the rider to slow down with pushback. If the rider ignores it it shuts down rather than damage itself and then shut down at much higher speed. It is IMO absolutely brilliant technical solution since it teaches idiots to respect physics of the device without introducing crippling damage to the device. Imagine if the coils in the motor fried instead because you simply went over the capabilities of the motor and once you push electric motor over it's capability it starts heating up the coils (as motor turns into generator when you move it). Best case scenario. Worst case your controller board would fry or your battery pack. You'd be livid. And you'd still nosedive but this time because your device is safely dead. And your nosedive would be at much higher speed, introducing higher change of serious injury.
I fully intend to be a little scared of my one wheel for the rest of my life. When I get cocky - it teaches me humility sometimes in a painful fashion. Maybe someday I’ll grow up and be a one wheel god, but till then the “Little Monster “ has my respect.
I put on fangs after my gnarly crash the first week I had my board. 2,000 miles later, only needed the fangs once. So you gotta put a price tag on wrecking that could be prevented by fangs (you won’t find out until it happens). $60 is a no brainer for me.
Yup. Just the other day they saved my butt. I’ve been hopping down curbs no problem but for some reason my nose came down this time and my board just rode along on its nose and I ran it out. $60-worth it.
Regarding your last statement, if you ride with a backpack, you can easily put a bicycle bell on the pack strap. I find it very handy when other people are on the sidewalk.
you know what also helps prevent nosedives? kiil guards suspension. i wasn't expecting it, but the extra bit of suspension combined with fang minis on mine has helped me recovered from unexpected holes and roots on trails without flying off the board.
I got my first pushback today on my OneWheel. I was surprised by how slight it was. I was not even sure it was pushback. I wish it was significantly more obvious.
yeah man I had Fangs and it saved my face but the issues is the onewheel locks and doesn't free spin when it dives. So YES the fangs do what they do. But the onewheel doesn't play nice. So as it saved my face and I did run out to the grass to fall. I still screwed up my shoulder a little.
I'm glad to see you got a helmet. I got some fangs coming, I haven't nose dived yet just hoping it will help me if I ever do. You got a new subscriber, keep it coming 💯
I was watching to see if you had the same experience and you did. I had motor failure (nose dive) 4 times last year all with their own conditions. Fangs work everyone. Not just on failures but also if going up a ramp at a park or driveway or curb. Anytime the nose hits it rolls and not stops/grinds. It’s a must for me as just gives me a split second to start running or I’ve even ride out the failure. BTW I refuse to call it anything but a failure! When your solution to a motor being over taxes to kill it and you, it’s a failure! As I’ve said to OW 100x just kill power by 50% instead of just turning off. It’s a programming issue, dummies. Haha.
Why in the world aren’t those preassembled??? I mean I understand there’s an install process to put them onto your board but there’s no reason why the bearing isn’t already in place and the wheel isn’t already attached to the mounting bracket. That’s ridiculous
Having used the fangs myself while they do work if your not on flat ground they may not work at all. I used them on my pint when I swapped to an XR I did not buy fangs again because a float plate will also slide if the nose touches just enough to recover. If you dont respect push back and go fast when it dives fangs are not going to do much neither do the float plates where they work is when your going slower and for some reason the nose decides to touch either from a bump in the pavement or weight not being shifted right whatever it ends up being.
They have helped a lot. I’ve had about three instances since making this video where they allowed me to run it out rather than stopping abruptly and eating asphalt.
@danielporterAZ Yeah, I had a helmet, elbows, hands, and knee pads The only thing I need now is shoulder pads. Everyone who rides a OneWheel lands on their shoulders so it would make sense to have shoulder pads
My buddy has a onewheel RU-vid channel and during one of his vids he nose dived pretty hard. He was on the beach luckily, but it was hard packed sand so there was some give but he also ate some shells and got cut up from them. Hes got 14k miles on his XR so he quite experienced and he still ate it. I fractured my hip on my bushpig, so I guess I'll stay away from a onewheel 😆
Wrist guards!!! Followed by knee guards and upper body armor including spine and shoulders. But if you can only pick 2 types of gear, I’d recommend helmet and wrist guards. It’s so easy to break your wrists. I wear steel toe shoes also, but I’m on EUC which go much faster.
I love my fangs. I ride hip forward when accelerating hard or riding really fast so that if I get too aggressive and the nose dips I instinctively pull the nose back up. I have put the nose down with and without fangs and pulled out fine but I have also put the nose down with and without the fangs and had to run it out. The fangs are a little more forgiving though.
Great video bro......I am 54 I got my first XR on black Friday last year. So far I continue to ride only on grass and Astroturf. I fell really hard on the grass one time. I believe I may have bruised my ribcage. After that fall ( I never told my wife) I still ride it but I know I need to hit pavement. Those fang wheels will be something I definitely know I will have to buy
I’m 67 and know what you mean, ya don’t bounce too good after a certain age, I ride careful, respect the one wheel, don’t ride faster than you feel comfortable bailing off from, safety gear, always be thinking about how to bail off safely. Don’t give up - it’s a lot of fun. Baby steps. You will be fine. Take it slow and never give up. Don’t get cocky - confidence is not your friend initially. 😂
I got cocky today, smh and 5 days ago. 5 days ago I fell at 23mph today was at 25 mph. Yes I'll be padding up for now on. And you m at least going to try to see if the fangs help a little at least. And I'm lucky I been skateboarding skating and all that since 4 yrs old and know how to fall with out hopefully breaking something.... But I'll keep riding just no more being cocky.... #FLOATON🤘🏽💯💥🤞🏼
So I'm a newer rider and don't gauge speed well. I bought a used board with fangs and i was able to save myself today with a 17mph nosedive. I know it was 17mph because it was the top speed I've hit on the board when it happened. My issue is I'm used to going 25mph on my esk8 so 17 doesn't feel superfast to me, so It's hard for me to gauge how fast I'm going below 20ish. I think I was also able to recover because I have a lot of board sports experience and have good balance. It felt like a nose grind on a regular skateboard.
I have the swagtron shuttle board. And after one week. I wanted to go 400mph. Nose dives are guaranteed going to cause deaths. It's not something you can really brace yourself for. And I had to remind myself. (Your heavier than the board!) Even the boards self balancing technology, won't fix what will happen if you put too much weight on one side....
Great video Daniel 👍 Did you have the wheel in 'Delirium'? I found it much easier to practice the nose drag in 'Mission'. It does not feel as responsive as Delirium for trying out tricks at lower speeds. Looking forward to your next update 🤙
The glue is because the nut spins with the screw loosely in the footpad. You can’t get the screw to go in so you need to glue it. Nothing to do with loctite. Take a breath. :)
Welp...the screw tightened on mine so that must not be the case this time around...maybe after several times that nut I’m sure could very possibly come loose. Thanks for your input!!! 😁
I also didn’t have to glue the screw. Installed mine just like DP and it worked fine. Not to mention if you get the screw threaded in the nut, Loctite will do its thang!
Way way way less fun tho imo. I have both. I’ve never nosedived after 600 miles on my pint knock on wood. Just know the boards limits and you’ll be fine. Also the ride is smoother.
Great video Daniel. Very helpful. You're right...more confidence, less anxiety. Even if you still bail, you'll have slowed down a bit and at least fall better. That's worth a lot IMO heh :)
nice video. one of the most important questions to me as a OW owner is... why don't they come standard and are not even an offically endorsed accesory? What are we missing here?
Great video! I’m also a victim of the nose dive, early on for the exact same reason. Glad I had a helmet at the time , hit head fairly hard. I got a different brand then Fangs, then minis .. first brand was the most functional but wasn’t aesthetically pleasing, Fangs was cleaner but touched at very steep angles... minis clean but the slightest of sidewalk cracks etc it “grabs” but have you seen the 3.0?? if not you have to check it out! Wheels touch down slightly earlier and no chance of wheel movement (my 2.1 and minis would rotate slightly at times) and it still looks super clean! The best Of all worlds of all Models I’ve tried! You can actually do super tight slow turns on one of the wheels too. I believe it betters the chance of getting out of a nose dive even more.
Do you or anyone have any experience with the Fangs offroad? Hinder on softer dirt; good on solid dirt, etc.? Also, does it affect clearance noticeably?
yeah the fangs are a good move bro! Without the fangs, if your pushing it (as you saw), its almost instant asphalt Halt! With the fangs, you can actually recover, or at the very least, you know it nose dived and can react before breaking a clavicle
Sorry to hear about your nosedive. Unfortunately, this is an all too common problem with OneWheels. I recommend buying a higher end EUC - you will enjoy it way more. They are much safer, faster, and they are capable of taking on hills the one wheel can only dream of climbing. Inmotion V11, King Song 16x or 18xl, Begode RS.
Dude i dont know what to do. I love my pint but i cant trust it anymore. For the fourth time and after 2 nasty falls. My board continues to accelerate and not stop when i lean back. When i lean back it goes even faster! What do i do?
@@danielporterAZ it even happens in pacific mode. It happens during pushback and push comes very easy now and leans back very unbalanced like your doing a manual on a skateboard..
Even better than fangs is learning how to properly ride and knowing pushback. Its literally that simple, know that depower nosedive from overcharge down a hill is the worst diveyou can have. Wear a backpack, and if you go down toss your momentum into a roll to the back. The most common injury is separated shoulder or broken collar bone ( lead shoulder )
Nosedive from overcharge? The board just captain morgans on a decline unless you're not riding properly and have your weight shifted to the front as you're going down in which case it will shut off you are responsible for slamming the nose down into the ground.
I'm a long time snowboarder and discovered the nosedive in my second week by doing something that I do naturally to carve on the slopes...pushing my weight over the nose. Lesson learned but I'm a little baffled why the wheels aren't standard.
What’s the update? Did fangs work? I recently nosedived going uphill. I didn’t feel pushback; it felt like the motor shut off and the front dipped and i went rolling. Luckily, nothing broken. My left hand slightly cut up and left elbow scratched up.
@@danielporterAZ I ordered the Craft & Ride Float plates....sounds like I can modify them a bit to work with Fangs. I'm mostly interested in protecting the battery case in back.
@@danielporterAZ -- Hahaha... right on. I hope that is the solution. It's just a drag that so many RU-vidrs engage in click-bait. So, to be sure, I wasn't exactly clear on what you meant -- Never again would you ride a One Wheel, or never again would you trust a product like that or what. So, thanks for clearing that up. Seriously, I'm not being a jerk for no reason. I was hoping that the Fangs or similar product would make that crazy wheel safer. Cheers!
Yeah - If I am planning a day of trail riding I’ll most likely take them off. I’m sure if I’m reckless on pavement I will still nosedive...at least at this point if I’m not reckless I will have a fighting chance to correct myself.
I nosedived my pint at 24 mph, and came out with 12 spots of road rash, 10 of which were open wounds. Couldn’t lift a bag on my shoulder for a week, or exercise.
@@danielporterAZ I did some research -- would you agree it's more risky to ride due to the nose dives? Was thinking of the Pint to start but discovered the fangs weren't available for it?
Electric skateboard, only a moron would ride a one-wheel. You don't need to pay $1,800 to have your face bashed in by the concrete. Give a stranger $20 and put a Louisville Slugger in their hands.
@@danielporterAZ I just witnessed a buddy experience a nose dive....he reported not feeling or not recognizing the push back either. He did realize that he had the ride shaping set for hill climbing which has a lower top speed I guess and we were probably over that...still, I think those fangs may have saved the fall...maybe . Ride safe 👍🏼
@@maxwellmark Based on my nosedive, it seems to me there's a way to get the nose down to the pavement before the pushback engages. I was at zero and did what DP was doing to test the wheels in the video. Just got over the front and was suddenly on my face.
I don't understand the people who want to drag the nose of tail of the thing anyways. Why intentionally cause undue damage to your expensive device? Why push it as fast as it can go when you have no way to actually stop yourself? I'm interested in these things, but only because I want an electric vehicle for my commute and anyone on the unicycle type ones looks like there is something wrong with their head. It must be the skateboarder culture that is coming through. I can't understand it at all. Just ride the thing moderately and stay safe dogamnit
@@danielporterAZ best thing to do, these things look fun, but if it's faster than you can propell yourself physically....be careful. I'd be happy with anything that moves as fast as I sprint personally. 10-15 tops
