I remember reading the letters in second grade of high school, and how Puškin actually portrayed Onjegin as a decadent Russia opposed to Tatjana royal Russia pure and proud. I did not understand much of the love at the time, I was only sixteen years old, but now almost twenty years later I understand.
I was reading Onegin in my school, I was watching other Onegin movies, read and listened, BUT..this movie is a MASTERPIECE! Shedevr! My tears all around....BRAVO!
Ralph Fiennes does self-destructive ennui so very well. Liv Tyler is radiant, and the cinematography is ravishing. Thank you so much for uploading this.
He described himself perfectly in the gazebo. He's a bored person and will always want what's just out of reach. And she attributed far more to him than he ever deserved. Her husband is a substantial person, reliable. And Onegin is a superificial waste of time -- although somehow intriguing. She's far better off without him, although her fascination remains.
Beautifully explained! I agree with you as you well. But, I feel despite her feelings for him, she is also angry with him,“Am I noble enough for you now?”
@@odessy0000 yes, he turned her down because she thought of her as a peasant girl among other things. She knew what he wants, to ruin her, to make her his mistress, not his wife. Eventually he would get tired of her and he would leave her.
The genius of the original Pushkin poem is that he leaves it unclear, whether Onegin rejected Tatiana for the reason you mentioned, or because HE was wise enough not to screw her life with his presence in it at the time. Everything he said in his rejection, after all, was true and he was honest. It is also unclear in the literature if Onegin matured from his reckless days and realized the full tragedy of missing Tatiana as a bride, which is what would have moved him to confess, NOT his attraction to her status. Ralph plays a sweet villain, kind of reminds me of his Wuthering Heights character. And his self-destruction is comparable to that of a substance abuser. Yes, he does indeed make Onegin look like a "waste of time" in the end. That is not how Onegin is portrayed in the Pushkin's poem. I urge you to read it, it really leaves a much more tragic and mysterious print in one's consciousness. And as an indirect evidence you might consider this: Onegin never lied to her or to anyone. And if we assume that he stays true to his pattern even in the end scene, then it logically follows that he is indeed lovesick and has been all along, only for 6 years he has successfully numbed it down in the way he can no more. I urge you to read the poem. At the very least watch Tchaikovsky's much thorough Opera with Hvorostovsky and Flemming with English subs. If it's too tedious of a watch, then fast forward to all the main characters' arias and it'll give you more context straight from the original.
@@OlgaRykov you explained it so well, from a different angle that I never saw, or I have become cynical over the years. Now you have intrigued me to read it all over again. It's been 23 years since I have read the book in high school. We even had to memorize Tatiana's letter, the boys in class had to memorize Onnegin's letter :)
Thank you so much, I've really enjoyed it. Ralph Fiennes is such a perfect choice for the role of Onegin. I have always loved this novel, and, despite the critical attitude of many admirers of Pushkin, I consider the English film to be simply wonderful.
She did the right thing to reject him, despite truly loving him. She did what many don’t even do in modern society - she remained faithful to her husband. He needed to move on, too - either alone or with someone else.
She reminded faithful not only to husband but to herself too. About cheating In the poem are mentioned "cute infidelities" among high society from which Onegin got tired and bored in his early age.
WildMedusaHair, thank you for posting this. Pushkin is one of my favourite writers but I had never seen this film, although I remember when it came out in 1999. You made my day, on a lonely, Sunday afternoon with the cold of Winter approaching. You've given me a terrific present - even if unintended - and I can't thank you enough.
He only 'loved' her when she was dressed in the best and jeweled and heavily made up. He loved the fact that she was 'finished,' not someone he would have to put an effort into. If he had married Tatyana as a simple country maiden, he would have had to work at cultivating her and getting her to grow up. He didn't want to make a genuine and sincere effort. He sees the social part of himself, not the man he would have to work at becoming in order to successfully guide Tatyana from simple maidenhood to sophisticated adulthood.
I see this so that Onegin knew himself too well. He didn't want to put genuine effort, but rather could not do it. He was bored, and there is an opinion that he understood love as sexual relationship, unaware of deep feelings. He laughed at poetic Lenskiy and his overwhelming romantic nature. But the moment came and Onegin found that his soul is capable to feel extreme feelings. I believe he didn't really want to ruine Tatiana's life with his letter and feelings. But he also couldn't control himself and risked to look pitiful and miserable. Well, it's a beautiful story, a beautiful book, a beautiful movie and breathtaking opera.
Exactly, if she had remained spinster and still living in the country, he wouldn't want to have anything to do with her. But now she's nobel, very rich and he can't stand it and he wants to drag her down with him, he doesn't offer her marriage, he says be with me, meaning be my mistress.
It's somewhat sad that nobody dared to show Tatiana's dream, neither movie makers, nor Tchajkovskij in the famous opera. Tatiana's dream would be incredible, fascinating to watch.
That's the way the movie is filmed. The original Pushkin version is deeper and more complex than that. Believe me, the poem itself doesn't paint Onegin in such a flat-out villain light, although watching Ralph play a villain is always a pleasure to witness.
Am i noble enough for you now??? yess may be that’s the reason for him to beg for her love...maybe if she was a poor man’s wife dressed shabbily, would he even glanced at her or noticed her?
Exactly, he would even mock her, or if she stayed a spinster still living in the country. He didn't expect this, and only wants her because he can't have her. If she had agreed to be his mistress, he would soon get bored of her and left her.
As russian may say that perfect movie, perfect cast but..music)))Music is Soviet🤣🤣🤣They should have taken something more relevant to that century The moment is so pathetic, when Onegin is, walking away through my hometown Saint Petersburg... but this USSR time very famous music, it is used in many jokes nowadays...so not so convenient
I feel hes pain I was right there at one time I loved my girl so bad now she is married and we talked in a park has she walked away my heart literally ached. And I believe hers did to..but now Im still alone because of one arrgraont mistake
@@yvonnespearing well I'm really sorry for you both.. and I know you're in pain so no advice will probably help... But I think the best way to deal with that is to face the facts and wish her all the best in her life..be happy for her happiness.. You can keep her in your heart as a beautiful memory and move on.. I know it's not easy.. But time will do it's work eventually.. Wish you all the best
Я к Вам пишу чего же боле...Что я могу ещё сказать.? Теперь я знаю в Вашей воле.Меня презреньем наказать. Но Вы к моей несчастной доле.Хоть каплю жалости храня. Нет вы не оставите меня..... Кажется это версия самая точная как написал Сам Пушкин...Я читала Онегина снова и снова..в школе.
