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Online Dating Mistakes - Bad First Messages 

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@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
Few things are as frustrating as matching with a hot girl, then having it immediately fail when you start to message her. Here's how to increase your odds of a more positive outcome.
@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
@@awesomeboss2020 I've done at least one (if not a few) videos relating to those topics in the past.
@TheGImp1214
@TheGImp1214 3 года назад
Hey been following you for a few years fucking love your content and your program. Idea that seems up your alley entrepreneurs in cars does this thing where you pay him 200 bucks and sponsor a video. I know you do an ass load of q&a in your program but this might be a way to go really deep into specific topics and get paid for it. He’s had quite a few random banger videos from it too. Just an idea
@TheGImp1214
@TheGImp1214 3 года назад
I should be more specific you “sponsor it” you send him an email with a question or scenario and he answers it in video everyone can watch. Because at least to me when you’re at your best is those 2 hour lectures. You hook people with shit like this but letting people see you nerd the fuck out over this shit i think youd grow more. Be the athlean-x of this
@hw5091
@hw5091 2 года назад
Here's an idea- treat them like you would the average to slightly above girl that approaches you in a bar. IE- just talk to her like normal, like you don't care but you'll entertain it n see if you want anything to come of it. Fucking guys with their overly thought out approaches. This bullshit will never work with any amount of consistently, at all, if that pussy is put on a pedestal.
@everope
@everope 3 года назад
Don't get butthurt by bad/negative responses. Just never get butthurt period
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027
@Aliens-Are-Our-Friends2027 3 года назад
having your approach get rejected either lets you improve, or more importantly lets you dodge a bullet!
@iforgot87872
@iforgot87872 3 года назад
What if you literally fall backwards though? Might be too late then.
@MichaTheLight
@MichaTheLight 2 года назад
You shouldn't take it seriously cause it's just a few online texts. There is enough distance. In online it is really easy to see it as just a game
@swilson4632
@swilson4632 Год назад
Sometimes their "shit test" is overtly offensive and you're just not interested in continuing with them. I don't want to date some chick that just says some over-the-top negative shit just off of some small thing.
@Zsaqwes8
@Zsaqwes8 3 года назад
Have enough self respect to walk away from someone overly rude
@illyak7895
@illyak7895 3 года назад
I don't even get silence. I get unmatched🤣
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
lol same, i've once saw i've matched with someone, and she send me a message, whe i wanted to see what she send :D i've got a blank screen,.. she unmatched with me before i even saw who she was and what she texted me.... ;/
@jns08d
@jns08d 3 года назад
@@bartdegryse9345 Bumble is an absolute joke for this reason lol
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
@@jns08d it was tinder
@jns08d
@jns08d 3 года назад
@@bartdegryse9345 I stand corrected
@ab4n1sg64
@ab4n1sg64 3 года назад
It's a harsh world out there my guy.
@marcelolage1395
@marcelolage1395 3 года назад
I got a Todd advertising before a Todd video
@benljeffery
@benljeffery 3 года назад
If she doesn’t respond just reply: Are you always this talkative Very Effective
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
lmao great comeback, playfullness, need to keep that in mind x)
@qasimwarsi3
@qasimwarsi3 2 года назад
That's a good message, Im gonna steal this lol
@MrMLBson09
@MrMLBson09 Месяц назад
Playing with fire 🔥 strat spotted
@GT_V
@GT_V 3 года назад
We need to hear the actual exchange or at least your idea of good wording now for the "you're creepy" response. It seems like something that could come up a lot and it's great to know there's a formula to twist it in your favor.
@mrpussinboots4252
@mrpussinboots4252 3 года назад
Your choice of phrases and expressions are something I very much envy. My mind doesnt work how I want it too and I repeat the same bland boring words.
@jacksonzheng3103
@jacksonzheng3103 3 года назад
It all comes with experience and practice. Game is just a series of steps to follow, some people have followed it efficiently, some people are still learning the ropes, but anyone can get to Todd's level with enough practice
@harryradley
@harryradley 2 года назад
@@jacksonzheng3103 Agreed. I used to have the opposite problem to OP where I would phrase things in a way that made them seem too confrontational or rude etc. Haven't completely fixed it but I'm getting better, need to remind myself that talking to women is emotion>logic.
@JacobBailey-yq1kg
@JacobBailey-yq1kg 4 месяца назад
So nice to get new perspectives like that it is OKAY to apologize if done correctly. This is why you're the GOAT, Todd. Only an expert takes the widely spread mythos and elaborates on it.
@adityamishra6368
@adityamishra6368 3 года назад
She can't come up with a good opener other than "hi, how are you doing?" so she mentioned that
@Anon-tt9rz
@Anon-tt9rz 2 года назад
typical women, the same that complain about guys sending "Hi, how are you doing?"
@amanapart0
@amanapart0 3 года назад
Todd's about 39 now. That means the girl who called him "creepy" and "gross" for being 30 is now about 27 herself. Another three short years to go for her. Maybe she should take a look in the mirror and see if she still thinks that's "creepy" and "gross".
@dreamcore
@dreamcore 3 года назад
yeah, though if her actions matched her words, why respond? At least to some degree it's a challenge to you to turn her attitude around, or make responses bad enough to snapshot and show others on social media etc
@esem5347
@esem5347 3 года назад
Ask any dad on here and he will tell you their daughters at 18 are innocent and dont know what they really want. It's creepy because men at 30 seeking a little girl who was deemed a child only a few days or week ago is grooming behaviour. If he was to approach her now, with her brain's prefrontal cortex completely formed, then there's no issue.
@paulcosta8297
@paulcosta8297 2 года назад
@Es Em You are a psyc. hotic fem1nist contradicting thousands of years of normal biological history where 18 is way, way older than the natural age for women to marry and procreate with men 15+ years older than them. If your unscientific B S correlation between s3xu al consent and full prefrontal cortex development were true, then girls would need to be 25 before being allowed to have S, AND, as the age of the other person has absolutely no impact on said development, you would need to be equally offended about 15-18 year old women hooking up with their own age (which you're not, because you're an illo gical brainwashed fl).
@paulcosta8297
@paulcosta8297 2 года назад
@@esem5347 Why don't you stop terrorizing normal straight men and respect the free, uncompelled human rights of other humans who have been able to have babies for over half a decade. Nature denying dystopian fem1nist tyrant.
@rickman17x16
@rickman17x16 2 года назад
No it’s fucking weird at that age.
@LDAMME
@LDAMME 3 года назад
This was really helpful. Exactly what I needed. I often push it a little more than I should (hehe). Thank you Todd.
@noahschmartz2354
@noahschmartz2354 2 года назад
ironic, most married guys love silence ,
@goldencalf8441
@goldencalf8441 3 года назад
Great video! I hope we get another q&a format like on value masterclass soon. Those were helpful!
@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
Glad you're liking this format.
@rodbelding9523
@rodbelding9523 Год назад
Trying to talk to the type of women that are on these apps is a losing battle. If you say "hey what's up" it's not enough for them, but if you come up with a creative opener they think you're weird. These apps aren't even worth it, trust me.
@rocknrollresignation93
@rocknrollresignation93 3 года назад
Why do so many women start a conversation with just “hey” on dating apps?
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Cause they never had to learn textgame and usually the 'hey' opener works for them
@lolfirepoisonftl
@lolfirepoisonftl 3 года назад
They can get away with saying "hey" or really anything as the guy will still likely be interested in her if she's attractive. The "hey" or "hi" is really short, easy and minimal effort.
@janosf97
@janosf97 3 года назад
Because it works
@Muskrat_squeezer
@Muskrat_squeezer 3 года назад
Reply with the same thing and nothing more. If she's interesting she will say something else and if she just wants validation you will get silence which saves your time
@rodbelding9523
@rodbelding9523 Год назад
That always cracks me up. Women always demand that a man says more than "hey," but when the tables are turned that's exactly what women say.
@abhaypratap802
@abhaypratap802 3 года назад
Literally a very similar thing happened me with just today on tinder.. I did what todd said and she just apologized to me for being rude
@simondayan2737
@simondayan2737 Год назад
Needed to hear this today thx Todd for all your helpful content.
@davidwilliam9681
@davidwilliam9681 3 года назад
What if it's going well, she gives you her actual phone number and you text for two days, then she goes silent for no discernible reason? How much silence is ok? How do you follow up after to restart the conversation and set up a date?
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
I would not text for two days. When she gives the number set the date up.
@ThingsILikke
@ThingsILikke 2 года назад
Leave her alone she got weirded out
@nguyenquangminh4016
@nguyenquangminh4016 3 года назад
The intro music always gets me going !!!
@Dan_the_cobbler
@Dan_the_cobbler 3 года назад
Ok, Ok i'll be that guy to try and say "First comment!". Also, what never seems to fail is "If I can make you laugh you have to make me a sandwich, deal?" lol
@mauricioascencio788
@mauricioascencio788 Год назад
This is exactly why i am afraid of game. This dude tried to be gamy and the girl responded like she was disrespected and then the guy was honest that he is sorry for opening like that and then the girl just throws him away. Idk what to believe now
@tomahawk8890
@tomahawk8890 10 месяцев назад
It was a bad message, and it puts him in a bad spot, you really don't want to have to fall into sending apology messages either. That always looks unattractive to women, it's a bit too much. I feel like it's hard to recover once you have sent an apology text, it just turns them off so much. Well, I guess after watching the video more I do agree with his point, a subtle apology could be fine, I think sometimes what can destroy a man is when he backpedals too hard, and the apology just comes off as highly exaggerated.
@Sonicxis4ever
@Sonicxis4ever 6 месяцев назад
This is what I was thinking. He’s trying to have game. I don’t think he actually teases girls like that . I’d rather have an authentic conversation
@N8teyrve
@N8teyrve 3 года назад
Is it just me or has online dating become like 100 times harder in the last few months? I used to get like several dates a week. Now I’m struggling to get one a month and the girls are rude and super defensive right off the bat now. I use the same material pretty much but the responses are drastically different now
@George-Chris
@George-Chris 3 года назад
@John m most likely with the covid and lockdown. But at the same time there's also more girls on dating apps now I think since many of them are probably bored in their homes
@splitraven7060
@splitraven7060 2 года назад
I’m a female. What’s it like being so Handsome, AB? Wishing you a great rest of your day!
@rodbelding9523
@rodbelding9523 Год назад
It's not you. Online dating wasn't too hard at first, but over the last few years it's become a cesspool.
@MichaTheLight
@MichaTheLight 2 года назад
3:05 best version of the opener 9:05 good excuse
@lukasraw
@lukasraw 3 года назад
what if the first day I had good flirting and investment from girl and let if at that. But then the 2nd day we talked more like normal people without drama or emotions and I asked her out and got rejected. Should you escalate on spiked emotion? Thought i already showed that im High Value the first day and I can talk normally later. But it was probbably boring 2nd day
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Yes, escalate on a high note. Women's emotions are constantly changing.
@freddyj5845
@freddyj5845 3 года назад
What do you recommend if a girl reply’s that you’re too old and creepy?
@chr1staki
@chr1staki 3 года назад
"My mum tells me the same thing"
@Trump-A-Bad-MF
@Trump-A-Bad-MF 3 года назад
Are you a witch?
@Muskrat_squeezer
@Muskrat_squeezer 3 года назад
If you're good I'll put you in my will
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Well , take it as feedback. When she calls you creepy it means too much intent or not enough of a fun vibe. And as a response: 'What do you like about old dudes so much?'
@jns08d
@jns08d 3 года назад
Def a shit test
@parthmirgal2697
@parthmirgal2697 3 года назад
intro music?
@LDAMME
@LDAMME 3 года назад
I'd love to see a video about humor in text game. I like pushing it, but often struggle with women not getting that I'm joking. I'm not exactly sure why that is haha
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Text is the worst medium to joke around or have serious conversations because no one hears your tonality or sees your nonverbals.
@LDAMME
@LDAMME 3 года назад
@@harishot4953 I think you're absolutely right! That's probably what I've had to learn the hard way lately
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
@@LDAMME Yeah, they talk about that in depth in the book crucial conversations.
@LDAMME
@LDAMME 3 года назад
@@harishot4953 Thanks a lot for the recommendation. I'll be sure to read it
@toasty862
@toasty862 Год назад
Women have deficient humour glands. It has to be treacle-y cutesie-poo children's humour or they just take everything at face value.
@Ja99prod
@Ja99prod 3 года назад
We need more specific lines, don’t be greedy Todd!!
@Kingarthurjohn
@Kingarthurjohn 3 года назад
Hey trouble,hey I like your style
@hardstyle3196
@hardstyle3196 3 года назад
@@Kingarthurjohn lol
@Trump-A-Bad-MF
@Trump-A-Bad-MF 3 года назад
Just call her dog
@dendoumoussama4220
@dendoumoussama4220 3 года назад
if pick up artists started sharing lines for free they won't be able to pay rent
@hardstyle3196
@hardstyle3196 3 года назад
@@dendoumoussama4220 lol
@beemo9
@beemo9 2 года назад
Please do tell us more about how you got with the 18 year old
@tarikalbert64
@tarikalbert64 2 года назад
When he said meet high quality girls he lost me at that
@marcokuhner2445
@marcokuhner2445 3 года назад
@AskToddV How do you text a girl after the first date, especially when she’s less responsive than before the date?
@marcokuhner2445
@marcokuhner2445 2 года назад
@port nut wow. 10 months and a relationship later reading this it’s like I wrote that 2 years ago… But I know I done fucked up that date at the time haha and I know why, I was pushing so hard. But hey, we were placed here to learn, right?
@kingg3095
@kingg3095 3 года назад
More interested in hearing more about his own story about the reversal
@RainbowBrightStar5381
@RainbowBrightStar5381 Год назад
@4:18 Bro says a Venn diagram then a pie chart shows up on the screen. 😂😂
@Anon-tt9rz
@Anon-tt9rz 2 года назад
I'll let you all in on a little secret - IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU WRITE (almost), if you don't get a reply it's because of your photos/looks, peerrioood.
@jakeh2049
@jakeh2049 3 года назад
Damn these vids are well made
@kchumlyful
@kchumlyful 3 месяца назад
I can’t even get matches😢
@musicdecoratestimewhitenoi6714
If you get silence at 1300, you probably shouldn't follow up after midnight. She's pissed because she's like, "wtf are you doing texting me at 0049 like I don't have to get up and go to work in the morning?!"
@Funkylover-sl7ew
@Funkylover-sl7ew Год назад
But y do I get silence if im not ugly maybe im dull or my social skills suck?
@dimitrikorsakov2570
@dimitrikorsakov2570 3 года назад
More videos like this relating to messaging - specific situations or messaging generally.
@hoosmyster
@hoosmyster 3 года назад
Wait, you guys are actually getting responses?
@qasimwarsi3
@qasimwarsi3 2 года назад
You guys are getting matches?
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Hope you keep doing pickup videos bro!
@user-mh5pi7vn4e
@user-mh5pi7vn4e 3 года назад
Todd is what RSD Max is trying to be. No offence to his former colleagues from RSD.
@tommyngo8893
@tommyngo8893 3 года назад
Hey Todd, can u help me out like what do u do when u get mixed signals like say in person like school or like in real life it’s always good fun flirty always play fighting and good vibes but over text they leave u on delivered.
@juggalocpirate
@juggalocpirate 3 года назад
Thanks todd
@lilcrazybossnyfecoach3340
@lilcrazybossnyfecoach3340 3 года назад
At this point what is the point of online dating
@ChickenMaster7
@ChickenMaster7 3 года назад
I disagree, you shouldnt continue mesaage girls if they give you a harsh first message response. You might be able to turn some of those responses around but what percentage? Less than 5% I guess. So spend your time and energy talking to the girls that like you, not qith those bitches. And of course if every girl is giving you a negative response, you probably should still try to turn the situation around but thats not the case at least not in my experienc
@Sumtrip799
@Sumtrip799 2 года назад
Good video
@ElijahShawmaliciousboy
@ElijahShawmaliciousboy 3 года назад
How do we make sure we don't get silence in online dating?
@marcelolage1395
@marcelolage1395 3 года назад
You can't make sure, but sending something a little challenging, with a question and that relates to her profile is a good start. Easier said than done, though
@tubularbill
@tubularbill 3 года назад
Todd do you have an program for online dating messages?
@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
Yes, contact me at todd@toddvdating.com and I'll direct you to the appropriate resources
@mindsetmotivation9124
@mindsetmotivation9124 3 года назад
Todd, what would you say are good photos... I'm terrible at selfies
@Shadenium1
@Shadenium1 2 года назад
Selfies are not the greatest choice either. Photos look the best when they are taken by someone else. Ask your friends or better hire a professional photographer. The latter is superior choice of all.
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
from tinder not being fair, and not getting good results etc, people i've found and interested me, searched them up on fb, and 2/3 where already in a 1+year relationship or even married, so that's why i'm so suspicious, sadly i've mostly got a negative answer or none, about why they still had a profile, or why they didn't delete it, and asking to woman, tinder aint that far to us man etc, so srry to bother you here, but wanted to see if there is interest to get to kow eachother like this,, seeing the sitution i'm in, to act or look like a stalker.. i'd better to stop before i' have the cops on my ass....?
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
Yeah, definitely do not do that. That is massively creepy.
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
@@harishot4953 if only i've got that response sooner..... ooh well, hopefully it's not going to be a bad case, i'm just letting it, and hopefully not meeting some of those people etc 'rolls eyes'
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
@@bartdegryse9345 praat je nederlands?
@bartdegryse9345
@bartdegryse9345 3 года назад
@@harishot4953 ben belg,.....
@harishot4953
@harishot4953 3 года назад
@@bartdegryse9345 Ok, ik praat nl dus ik zeg het wel in het nl. Ik weet niet of ik je goed begreep want het is natuurlijk tekst, dus ik hoor geen tonaliteit etc. Het klonkt namelijk sarcastisch wat je type. Iig het is heel onaangenaam voor vrouwen als je ze gaat opsporen en dan berichten naar ze toe stuurt.
@Ajayharrysimon
@Ajayharrysimon 3 года назад
I don't agree with negative response is better than silence.. been following and implementing your stuff to real life for a long time.. And I found that no response could actually means external issues. People forget when they are distracted,, and that's all the time. Just validated thiis recently with alex from pwf.. Negative response is basically a "NO" in cold approach analogy. it's a step back... With silence you can call her out and fllip the situation
@smedzi
@smedzi 3 года назад
both are stupid. no response is low interest and why would you bother with a woman like that.
@dreamcore
@dreamcore 3 года назад
I accidentally ghost on ppl, especially girls, when I have a stressful situation of any sort
@dreamcore
@dreamcore 3 года назад
also when their last response left nothing to work from
@ToddVDating
@ToddVDating 3 года назад
It depends on the context to some degree. If the interaction was good then suddenly no response, it's often something external. If it's just no communication ever, that's usually a different story. You are right that "accidental" silence beats "intentional" bad answer though, for sure.
@ToddVDating
@ToddVDating 3 года назад
Also, if it's silence after negative texts before it, that tends to be very bad as well.
@poohagainagain
@poohagainagain 3 года назад
i get silence only^
@bumbatumba1251
@bumbatumba1251 2 года назад
Just open with "lol, bimbo toilet wants only serios relationships now".
@sk8tb1
@sk8tb1 3 года назад
so youre saying the moment someone "explains" go on their way to explain something to me thats a sort of interest
@danny6579
@danny6579 3 года назад
1:14 what a fcking chad 😂
@whateveritwasitis
@whateveritwasitis 11 месяцев назад
13 min I can't get back
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 года назад
1:08 "she was disgusted that I messaged her" I actually think it's not a good strategy. There's a difference betweena shittest and an insult. When a girl obviously insults you and you try to turn it around with some jokes - you look very weak. There's only one way - you don't reply at all, and then, if she apologises, maaaybe you give her another chance. Maybe.
@everope
@everope 3 года назад
If you're worried about looking weak your mindset is wrong
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 года назад
@@everope Lol it's about your FRAME. Imagine you're a boss in a huge company. Some girl comes to you for a job inteview, and she's like: your company is disgusting. And you're like haha, no, it's actually a very good one. How lame would that look? No, you don't like something, get the fuck away from here. There're 10 other candidates waiting behind the door.
@everope
@everope 3 года назад
@@timothystokes6337 Or you could say "interesting... what do you find disgusting about it?"
@DESTRAKON
@DESTRAKON 3 года назад
@@everope I disagree, that's just leading to conversation that's gonna make her think more about what she doesn't like about you rather than let you show off your features
@timothystokes6337
@timothystokes6337 3 года назад
@@everope That's an awful reply and terrible attitude in general. You just changed the frame from "I have a lot of candidates and I'm evaluating if you fit for the job" to "let's discuss if my company is disgusting or not". I mean, you can do that, most likely you'll just waste your time, best case scenario you end up in a relationship in a very needy position where she doesn't respect you end eventually will lose interest
@Archonsx
@Archonsx 3 года назад
This is so weird, it feels like I’m a different type of human entirely watching this, is this really how people talk? It seems to tiring to get all this stuff right, I’d rather just pay for a hooker and focus on more important things
@albertor9879
@albertor9879 3 года назад
Nothing good comes easy brother
@rocknrollresignation93
@rocknrollresignation93 3 года назад
The hooker is much less frustration and cheaper in the long run
@albertor9879
@albertor9879 3 года назад
In the short run, maybe. In the long run you'll eventually regret not taking the time to properly learn how to socialize with women. It's only frustrating to the extent you let it be frustrating, recognize all the progress you've made, remember that consistency and mindset is everything.
@kishanchali8752
@kishanchali8752 2 года назад
@@albertor9879 Wrong. For some guys, good things come easily. Not only women but other things as well.
@Ja99prod
@Ja99prod 3 года назад
Are you ok with your vids being translated into a different language or I should send you a link for the channel who takes your content so you can ask RU-vid to ban them?
@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
I guess it depends, but I'd certainly like to be aware of such situations... thanks
@AskToddV
@AskToddV 3 года назад
todd@toddvdating.com for such communication, btw.
@noahschmartz2354
@noahschmartz2354 2 года назад
interesting about the 18yo but not cool to kiss and tell mate, even anon like that, at least be a bit more vague about it , that girl has a father and mother remember,
@innavision1920
@innavision1920 Год назад
Kinda sus tbh
@Funkylover-sl7ew
@Funkylover-sl7ew Год назад
No ofense but when did dating become a business lol
@maximumman4647
@maximumman4647 3 года назад
I say hola and there name of the girl and they dont say shit 🥺 if not they unmatch me 😂
@kingades1013
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