OPENING UP! || GERMAN watches FRIEREN 1x17 - BLIND REACT-ANALYSIS 

Yeah, I agree with this. He also is not "needed" in mage exams (Stark just disappeared as well) and he would accelerate Fern/Stark relationship too much. He can only join once he learns Gorilla is dead, I feel. =)

Hahah, yes, that is true :D

I took it as her just not realising who stark is and not wanting to admit she likes his "manly" qualities, but I might be wrong. =)

​@storieswithstyle My interpretation of it is twofold. Firstly a repeat of the mention of Eisen being scared of stark. So Stark is obscenely strong for his age I guess. Second is a different dimension to what you mentioned about manly qualities, but related. I think Fern was startled in a way in real life a woman cpuld be startled by a sudden show of physical strength by a man, leading to feelings of vulnerability and danger. To me this event marks a sort of setting boundaries in a relationship, Stark needs to learn to be gentle in dealing with his 'sweetheart', and it's not stated or resolved here, but I think Fern also needs to learn to be able to trust and show vulnerability to Stark more. A slow building of trust between the confused couple.

@@Despotic_Waffle Dude, in all of these episodes if anyone been rude or overstepped boundaries it as been Fern, if Stark needs to be more gentle then he might as well never interact with her ever again, remember how he tried being friendly with her and offer to eat together only for her to make fun of his size?

@@joaor96 ?? She made fun of his size before he tried being friendly with her and offered to eat with her though? That happened once and that was barely a day or two since they both met for the first time. Also she might be rude but to me she just acts like an awkward girl who is navigating the world and interacting with other people properly for the first time after having been through war and trauma in her younger years and then spending a lot of her life interacting with mostly Frieren and Heiter? She has her flaws but she's also justifiably scared of men touching her with force?? It's a fear girls and women develop very early on in life even before becoming adults and very realistic for her to have even if she needs to learn to trust people more.

@@sruthi267 English not being my first language, the point didn’t come across. It’s to contrast the behavior between the two, She makes fun of him and is hostile, and he’s friendly despite that. You are right she did make fun of his size first, and he still tried to be friendly with her. Do you not see that that is the point? I do not understand why you dismiss that. He is nothing but nice to her. Remember the episode when he wanted to get her a gift? She is immediately mad at him, not even letting Stark speak. In that episode Stark says something telling: “I wanted to choose a gift with you, since i don’t know what you like with. But i thought you would get mad again if i said that...etc ” Think about it with reversed genders, people would say the Women was being abused, it also demonstrates that he his already expecting her to be mad at him because she does it so often. What does that tell you about her behavior? In fact she many times says Stark is a Sexual Pervert even though he is no such thing. It would be more understandable if it was presented as a character flaw of hers, or if it was the result of how she was raised as you say, but the show still blames Stark, with him making many apologies even though he did nothing wrong for these interactions. And Half-assing reprimanding Fern for her actions, providing no justification for them. I do not agree that she is “justifiably scared of men” (not to mention that he touched her shoulder in a friendly way), but before we get lost in IRL stuff lets condense it to this. You think she as flaws and they are justified for some reason. I take that at face value and say i agree, she does have flaws and”she needs to learn to trust people more.” We both acknowledge She as at least some fault in this. Which is in contrast to the commenter i was responding that pushed the blame only on Stark. Stark is a literal Sweet Heart...and i'm not saying Fern is evil or is only mean to him, but i don’t think people are acknowledging the bad parts she does, and more importantly i don’t think the author is either. The reason i bring it up is because i also want it to be a cute romance between them, but i fear the author as leaned too much into Fern being mean for it to be what i consider good writing. Why would you fall in love with a women who gets mad if you touch her? And should you? Granted that if the series addresses this in future episodes not only will my point be mute, but i think the series would be even more deserving of praise. It’s just considering the way it’s going now i don’t think it will be.

Yeah, he would have been a "quick hack" for the Sein/Fern ship, but I still think he will be back. I am pretty sure Tür is on the way to Ende if I recall the map correctly. =) Also, he still has an open "arc"

@@storieswithstyle "Sein/Fern ship" typo?

I think it's quite possible that they will meet again after he learned of Gorilla Warrior having passed away. I do hope to have both of them show up together, but that seems unlikely.

​@hemoglobin3751 what?

@@iremainteague5653 I think he meant Stark/Fern ship

I may be overthinking, as it looks very similar to a wisteria, as you mentioned in your video, and yes, it's completely poisonous, unlike cherry, which is not poisonous in its fruits

I don't think there's much merit to try and find equivalents between human and elf ages. It's not proportional or consistent enough.

Yes, I also think Frieren will fail or let herself fail. I think Fern will be first class, then they have their 1st class mage for the adventure. =)

​@@storieswithstyleI feel maybe this a misdirect haha (or maybe not!), but Fern would be a possibility, and Flamme said to Frieren to not put her name out there! Although when they recently talked about the license Fern did mention she had taken the test and became a C-Class mage, so I wonder 1) how long ago that test was (before the fight with Lugner, maybe while Frieren was in jail? Or earlier?) where maybe she's stronger now - and 2) when was she actually apart from Frieren long enough to take the test / does this mean the test is something she could just take and finish in a day? I probably just need to re-watch that episode, she most likely mentioned when exactly she took the test. Either way, I've paced myself to 1 episode per week until the finale is live so it'll be a little longer before I get my answers!

@@L_Freya1 Fern said she got the third-class mage certification before she and Frieren left Strahl (the holy capital, kind of like the vatican, on the outskirts of which Heiter lived as former bishop), maybe a bit before/maybe after Heiter died. She said she only got third-class because that test was the one they were conducting the the soonest at the time. so she's had her certification for about maybe three to four years now, since she started travelling with Frieren when it was twenty-six years after Himmel died and she got her hairpin from Frieren on her birthday twenty-seven years after Himmel died.

Guess I want to run away from aging :D

Yeah, I used to think Frieren was like a child elf during the early stages of the Manga. But when you know who appeared it made me question whether female elves are just midgets on this universe 😅

Yes, might be. We need "older" female elves, but who knows if they are even a thing and survived :D

@@storieswithstyle We saw some bodies in the Elven village when Flamme met Frieren who looked normal height, but very hard to tell from the brief glimpse.

Yup, you can imagine it as a double s. Single s is often read as z, but ß is always read as s. If that makes sense - I don't know much german but I think for a starter it's decent info.

yeah, it is an s that is very "hissy" =)

It's a ligature of the archaic "long s" (ſ) and the more familiar "short s". Centuries ago, lower-case S had different forms depending on whether it was the last letter in a word or not, and you can still see this in old USA legal documents and monuments referring to "Congreſs", for example.

I did not but that is the most logical grave thematically :D

I think Himmel's grave should not be shown on their way to ender.They started years ago. His grave was at his town.@@storieswithstyle

​@storieswithstyle grave in ending is Flamme's not Himmel or Fern grave, it was confirmed by one of animators, in episode 10 You can see similar shot in Frieren flashbacks

Dont spoil it, i knew it was not HImmel's.I just thought he might figure it out.@@maciekmazur5580

Its Flamme's grave

actually i think it is actually Himmel's because of the blue flower and the butterfly turning into fern, and the blue flower at the end

i think it's Flamme's, it was on a hill

Yeah, might be Flamme as well, but I think it also looked differently. Hope it is not a glimpse at Fern's grave :(