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Operation Black Buck: The UK's Mega Bombing Runs in the Falklands War 

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@r.blakehole932
@r.blakehole932 3 года назад
One of the greatest success's of Black Buck was probably not the actual damage caused, but rather the psychological. "We can reach out and touch you...even there."
@Foxtrop13
@Foxtrop13 Год назад
literally the harriers had attacked the airfield before, there is not diference to the psychological panorama
@mistbooster
@mistbooster 10 месяцев назад
Falklands stranger danger? xD
@sniggs101
@sniggs101 6 месяцев назад
​@Foxtrop13 the point the Vulcan made was "we can reach the Falklands and so we can reach Buenos Aires. No distance is too far." This caused Argentina to pull back half of its airforce to defend its own country in fear Britain would strike the mainland with a nuclear capable aircraft without difficulty. This opened the skies over Falkland and freed up movement of British troops.
@baschoen23
@baschoen23 3 года назад
As an American, I was interested in learning more about the Falkland War because of James, Jeremy and Richard 😂
@ImTheJoker4u
@ImTheJoker4u 3 года назад
982-FKL
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 3 года назад
Mate there are some great documentaries out there.
@happalula
@happalula 3 года назад
@@chriswall27 nothing beats the petrolheads Old Lady, Hamster and Orangutan
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 3 года назад
@@happalula I thought you meant on the Falklands War but LOL, my favourite was the north pole special or maybe the Burma special or maybe ...........
@mbmann3892
@mbmann3892 3 года назад
Me too...🤫
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 3 года назад
14:11 Did I hear "HMS CANTALOUPE?"
@Metallica4Life92
@Metallica4Life92 3 года назад
and HMS Argent? x'D
@jimcappa6815
@jimcappa6815 3 года назад
Yes. Yes, you did.
@russc788
@russc788 3 года назад
Yes you did.
@sketchy74
@sketchy74 3 года назад
Wasn’t just me then :)
@exidy-yt
@exidy-yt 3 года назад
I thought it was Antelope?
@jlvfr
@jlvfr 3 года назад
The raids had _significant_ tactical and strategic effects. Tactically, the damage to the runway prevented it's use by fast jets; strategically the raids convinced the argentine junta that the UK could attack the Argentine mainland, which made it divert all Mirage III interceptors to mainland defence... leaving the islands with no air cover.
@pbainbridge5
@pbainbridge5 3 года назад
Precisely! The raids played a key part in the operation to retake the Falkland Islands. Had the Argentinians been able to base flights of their Mirage fighter jets and Dagger or Skyhawk fighter bombers at Stanley, the British fleet would have been forced to stay at greater distance or risk sustained attacks to get in close. Argentina would have likely held overwhelming air superiority over the islands. Had that happened the operation would undoubtedly have been made much more difficult. Not enough credit given to the success of the Black Buck raids.
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 года назад
@@pbainbridge5 The Mirage/Dagger couldn't have operated from Stanley, the runway wasn't long enough, if they could have then they'd have been stationed there before the fleet arrived. As far as the Mirages Daggers and Etendards were concerned Stanley was just an emergency diversion field. It also wasn't just the Black Buck raids that incentivised the FAA to pull back the Mirages, on their first two active engagements with the Sea Harriers the Mirages had their asses handed to them. I'd argue the raids were entirely strategic as the actual damage inflicted by 607 and half the RAF's Victor tanker fleet could have been achieved far more easily by 800/801 NAS Sea Harriers, no tankers required and very likely more bombs on target. It was all about sending a message, if the aim was merely to take out the runway then they went with the least efficient and most complex solution possible.
@Sublimeoo
@Sublimeoo 3 года назад
not to mention the wtf factor that must have ensued, i assume they thought they would be pretty safe from heavy bombing, must have been a big oh fuck we underestimated that
@alanfisher9316
@alanfisher9316 3 года назад
The other thing that wasn’t mentioned was the small point that the navy were in the fight with ships, boats(subs(another story to be told there! Skull and crossbones!)) and harriers, the army sent its troops down but the RAF need this brilliant but mad plan to be part of the party they didn’t want to miss out...
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 года назад
@@alanfisher9316 There were also the Harrier GR.3's of 1(F) Sqn aboard Hermes, Nimrod R.1's flying from Chile, and a single Chinook (the rest having gone down with Atlantic Conveyor). On that note Atlantic Conveyor's rapid conversion into a quasi MAC Carrier might be worth some attention. Honorable mention to the Canberra PR9's that very nearly operated out of Chile - staged out as far as Belize and were a day or two from transiting into Chile before that operation was scrubbed.
@johnnymittens77
@johnnymittens77 3 года назад
The Vulcan that completed the first mission XM607 is still at RAF Waddington from where it was based. It's right in the roadside, I drive past it every day
@Tigermoto
@Tigermoto 3 года назад
Got a photo of her with XH558 flying in the background
@ChrissyThePoo
@ChrissyThePoo 3 года назад
@@Tigermoto I've got that one too! Waddo air show 2013 👌
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 3 года назад
Cool stuff!
@karenblackadder1183
@karenblackadder1183 3 года назад
There is one at Solway Air Museum just 20 miles west of Carlisle. Amazing how tiny the cockpit is in relation to the immense wingspan.
@kessu83
@kessu83 2 года назад
Missing the fact that they were a waste of taxpayer money and a risk for the crews. Just to please the RAF, so they can tick the box they contributed to the war. Millions of taxpayer money to deliver ONE bomb and ONE missile. Something the Harriers could do more effectivley. Not my opinion...read Dave Ward book topgun...al the numbers are there.
@civvieal64
@civvieal64 3 года назад
Been there 3 times myself, twice in the British Army and again as a civilian. Despite it's harsh nature and remote location, it holds fond memories to me!
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 3 года назад
The more I learn about those islands, the more I'd like to visit. I sometimes zoom in on random tiny rocks on google earth and see that they have whole island communities in the middle of nowhere, I do like my comfort zone and being close to home but I'd love to explore some of those communities. Thanks for your service mate 👍 🤝
@CadarnTheMad1810
@CadarnTheMad1810 3 года назад
for a small island, I think it is going to become a massive part of UK exports...........cause.......oil
@EricDKaufman
@EricDKaufman 3 года назад
Here is the important question... How's the beer?
@mrupperland1303
@mrupperland1303 3 года назад
I'm in the British Army. I loved going there too, it's just like home.
@dh1380
@dh1380 3 года назад
Bad luck
@harryfaber
@harryfaber 3 года назад
You miss the point of the raids. They were a demonstration that it could be done. It allowed to world, and especially Argentina, to understand that any 'escalation' could lead to a British escalation which could include raids pretty much on any target north of the south Pole. The damage was minor, but the demonstrated potential was enormous.
@stue2642
@stue2642 3 года назад
Simon, no one thinks you don't make enough stuff.
@stuartellis1340
@stuartellis1340 3 года назад
Yeah Simon
@dh1380
@dh1380 3 года назад
Lol
@MarkSmith-sn7km
@MarkSmith-sn7km 3 года назад
It’s getting hard to find YT channels WITHOUT Simon on them.
@davidwashbrook9885
@davidwashbrook9885 3 года назад
Simon is a one man content farm
@erikroberts3545
@erikroberts3545 3 года назад
😂😂😂... true
@rade-blunner7824
@rade-blunner7824 3 года назад
It should not be legal to show video of a Vulcan without the accompanying audio of a Vulcan. The thing hardly needs to bomb anyone, just be airborne near them and they'll surrender...
@paulkemp5938
@paulkemp5938 3 года назад
Having heard a Vulcan flying on several occasions I can only agree, the snag is anything really representative would break your speakers as well as your ears.
@christinecrockford1654
@christinecrockford1654 3 года назад
Awesome sound
@charlesbrecknell4656
@charlesbrecknell4656 3 года назад
I used to live close to RAF Cosford & when they had the air show there a vulcan turned over my house. The backwash made your cheeks shake, a literally awesome sound.
@madsteve9
@madsteve9 3 года назад
1983 Finningley Air Show, near Doncaster. Low level pass over the runway. Every Oxygen molecule in your Lungs Vibrating. Hmmm Avro Vulcan B2
@user-ng2ps5hy4e
@user-ng2ps5hy4e 3 года назад
Agreed...I saw 1 at Farnborough a few years ago. My organs were vibrating that much I nearly threw up. Can't even imagine how it felt to hear that thing coming at you and knowing it's not on your side 😳
@Bearak_
@Bearak_ 3 года назад
Simon, I don't believe the "HMS Cantelope" was one of the four British ships that were sunk during the war. Rather, you'll find that it was the "HMS Antelope" instead.
@marko11kram
@marko11kram 3 года назад
I'm glad that it wasn't just me who noticed that!
@orngrnify
@orngrnify 3 года назад
Lol. 🍉
@claytonberg721
@claytonberg721 3 года назад
Whistlerspeak. LOL
@FalbertForester
@FalbertForester 3 года назад
Or HMS Argent / HMS Ardent ?
@melangellatc1718
@melangellatc1718 3 года назад
Cantaloupes are people too!
@lightningv46
@lightningv46 3 года назад
Megaprojects suggestions: V force, Britain's three nuclear bombers; Victor, Valiant and Vulcan
@justinheron1114
@justinheron1114 3 года назад
Yes please! Great idea.
@thedigitalrealm7155
@thedigitalrealm7155 3 года назад
Awesome idea!
@Tigermoto
@Tigermoto 3 года назад
Victor, Vulcan and the other one. Lol
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 3 года назад
@@Tigermoto Sperrin, the ugly one that didn't get made.
@gecko221281
@gecko221281 3 года назад
@@Tigermoto victor, Vulcan and the one nobody makes a model of, thereby foiling my v force diorama!
@venera13
@venera13 3 года назад
If you haven't started already, and I've seen others reccomend it. But you should do a video on the Arecibo radio telescope. It's in ruins right now but its construction and history is a mega project worth exploring.
@megaprojects9649
@megaprojects9649 3 года назад
next week ;)
@Not_epic_josh
@Not_epic_josh 3 года назад
@@megaprojects9649 yess
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 3 года назад
@@megaprojects9649 omg I can't wait!
@robertspence831
@robertspence831 3 года назад
The Vulcan is a beautiful beast, indeed.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 года назад
It was a hideous beast made to destroy humans by the metropolitan area...
@nathansellars3757
@nathansellars3757 3 года назад
@@davidhollenshead4892 and?
@KissMyFatAxe
@KissMyFatAxe 3 года назад
Agreed. The sexiest plane ever built by anyone. Had curves in all the right places 😂😏
@karenblackadder1183
@karenblackadder1183 3 года назад
@@davidhollenshead4892 Grow up!
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 3 года назад
Simon, you make fair points. I would suggest though that the raids while not physically effective were however a psychological blow to the Argentines moral. On the point of the war, two things spring to mind. The Islanders will never forget that the UK kept faith with them despite the massive undertaking required to reestablish control. Secondly, a knock on effects was the collapse of the military junta dictatorship a short time after the war shouldn't be forgotten. Finally, it demonstrated back then that we as a country had the resolve to stand and fight. If one was to attempt something similar now I would be highly doubtful if we would achieve the same today. A good video but it is without doubt facinating but plagued with controversy.
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 3 года назад
more good points i wouldn't underestimate our capabilities now though... i think they are stronger
@dorrisgonnawreckyou7111
@dorrisgonnawreckyou7111 3 года назад
Only controversial to argentinians or people who hate the UK and do not understand the history of the Islands. Very interesting points you made there.
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 3 года назад
@@DarkShroom the (hopefully hypothetical) outcome of a Falklands 2 all depends on having a very good grasp of each sides actual capabilities and being brutally honest about likely outcomes. From all that I have read of first hand accounts and well researched work, it was a damn close run thing. But that is in the finest traditions of old Blighty.
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 3 года назад
@@dorrisgonnawreckyou7111 it's sort of funny that you say that. I happened to be talking to a 20something journalism student who reckoned it was all imperialist and terrible until I pointed out those two things: the Islanders refuse to accept Argentina's claim and that it helped end an awful dictatorship in Buenos Aires. She didn't have much to say after that... pity it was going so well up till then 😉
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 года назад
Had Rabid Thatcher waited for the negotiations by the Reagan Administration the war would have been adverted: The Argentine Junta needed to claim a victory but couldn't support the occupation needed to keep the Falklands. They did need to obtain American made parts for their American made Military Technology... Britain needed to claim a victory by having the Union Jack flying over the Falklands once again. Allowing the US to work out the details wouldn't have resulted in damage to Britain's standing as a nation as the Occupation of Northern Ireland already damaged that... More importantly, the population of the Falklands would have seen their island quickly de-mined by those in the Argentine Military who planted them in the first place. Instead many of the men who were involved in planting those mines & their landmine maps were destroyed when the British bombed a troop transport that was evacuating them from the Islands, in an act of retaliation...
@tanks608
@tanks608 3 года назад
Victors were some of the coolest aircraft ever
@globalrevolution
@globalrevolution 3 года назад
yeah, how come 50's british planes still look futuristic?
@07pollee2ndtime
@07pollee2ndtime 3 года назад
I wonder what will happen to the one at Brunty.
@billrhodes5603
@billrhodes5603 3 года назад
Yeah, all the early to mid cold war UK aircraft looked like something out of the TV show "The Thunderbirds." The Lightning, Nimrod, Buccaneer and of course, the V-bombers. Beautiful, futuristic and very cool. Too bad all that expertise and ability were scrapped due to ever increasing social spending. Now the UK can barely design and build a glider.
@paulqueripel3493
@paulqueripel3493 3 года назад
@@billrhodes5603 I just had a Britbox advert featuring the 5,4,3,2,1 Thunderbirds are go sequence just after reading your comment. Coincidence or RU-vid spying on me more than I thought?
@FallenPhoenix86
@FallenPhoenix86 3 года назад
@@billrhodes5603 Take a look at the Typhoon then take a look at the BAe AEP... We absolutely can design and build new aircraft... the trick is finding a government in Westmonster willing to pay for it... we'll see what if anything comes of Tempest.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 3 года назад
When I was in elementary school our Spanish teacher got super pissed when I called them the Falkland islands. She insisted they are Las Malvinas. Ever since then I've never referred to them as anything but the Falklands.
@hawlitakerful
@hawlitakerful 3 года назад
Maybe start calling Argentina "continental Falklands" ;D
@trent_k
@trent_k 3 года назад
You sound lovely...
@ryanthompson5761
@ryanthompson5761 3 года назад
@@trent_k So do you, in the UK it's called the falklands, it shows the Spanish teacher's bias, if she's from this country she is obviously a Corbynista, or idiot, if she's from another country she should go back there and cry that the FALKLANDS belong too the UK.
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e 3 года назад
@@ryanthompson5761 Corbyn still living rent free in your tiny little mind...
@ryanthompson5761
@ryanthompson5761 3 года назад
@@RichO1701e No, just i can tell the sort of people that would of voted for him, you obviously one of those far left scumbags.
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281 3 года назад
Its well worth going to see the Vulcans involved in this mission. B.2 XM607 - RAF Waddington, Lincolnshire, B.2 XM598 - RAF Museum Cosford, Shropshire, B.2 XM597 - National Museum of Flight, East Fortune Airfield, Lothian, Scotland & B.2 XM612 - City of Norwich Aviation Museum, Norwich Airport, Norfolk.
@KrasherJack
@KrasherJack 3 года назад
I'm proud to have worked on some of these Aircraft at RAF Waddington, RAF Scampton, RAF Goose Bay, and as well as the Victors based at RAF Marham and Wyton...
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 2 года назад
Glad to see all four Black Buck Vulcans were preserved in museums.
@redroostermcmlxxl
@redroostermcmlxxl Год назад
@Scarecrow108 Productions Yeah, I never knew that, we'd usually have scrapped them
@alejandroarriagada3991
@alejandroarriagada3991 3 года назад
About that title "A long way for so little"......well, in the Iron Lady movie is well represented, "We stand on principle or we don't stand at all". And as futile as it may seem the point was clearly stated, do not mess with Great Britain because Great Britain does not mess around.
@jonsimpson9640
@jonsimpson9640 3 года назад
Perfectly summarised 👍🏻
@seanmccann8368
@seanmccann8368 3 года назад
Did she say the Falkland Islands are as British as Finchley?
@RumblesBettr
@RumblesBettr 3 года назад
Lol GB is a island of tossers these days
@francopetre6171
@francopetre6171 3 года назад
The missions were a terrible waste of money, accomplished little that couldn't have been accomplished by other means and if anything was only effective as psychological warfare since it was very concerning to see bombers that weren't supposed to be there
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 года назад
@@francopetre6171 The Reagan Administration was close to negotiating a peaceful withdrawal as the Argentine Junta got what it needed, to claim a victory against the Britan. More importantly, Argentina needed spare parts for their American-made Military Technology, something they couldn't afford to lose...
@dalewarren6271
@dalewarren6271 3 года назад
I went to a talk with Barry Mansfield, he was electronics warfare Officer on a Vulcan during black buck. The story’s he has are fantastic. He’s said part of the air to air refuelling probe was being used as a ashtray in the officers mess and the bomb racks needed for the mission were scrapped, they went back to the scrap yard and hope they were still there and hadn’t been melted down then buy them back off the scrap dealer. The Calculator used for working out the mission was brought from Swaffham market in Norfolk.
@Jack-hg1hq
@Jack-hg1hq 3 года назад
Yep true, went to talk by Martin withers it was great
@harryfaber
@harryfaber 3 года назад
At the time, I was attached to a unit that had a 'bang seat' for instructional purposes. A very worried armourer arrived and asked to see it, and then whipped out paperwork to explain that he was taking it away as it might be needed, it was from a Vulcan.
@bimblinghill
@bimblinghill 3 года назад
Ahh, I've just seen your comment after writing mine. It seems you remembered the stories a little better than I did...
@harryfaber
@harryfaber 3 года назад
@@bimblinghill It may be just as well that the 'great British public' doesn't know exactly how touch and go the whole effort was. Don't forget, both our 'carriers' were proposed for disposal, and all 'assets' were looked at to see if they could be used.
@chrisg6086
@chrisg6086 3 года назад
Yes, all detailed in the excellent book, Vulcan 607
@tinylord335
@tinylord335 3 года назад
Megaprojects suggestion: Operation Chariot (The raid on the dock at St. Nazaire that is referred to as the ‘greatest raid of all time’)
@karenblackadder1183
@karenblackadder1183 3 года назад
Check out the video by Jeremy Clarkson. Doubt you'll ever find a better one. Also Jeremy Clarkson's documentary on Convoy PQ17 He is a superb historical journalist with a genuine understanding of his subjects.
@Simon-jj2pu
@Simon-jj2pu 3 года назад
@@karenblackadder1183 and his one on his father in law who won the VC at Arnhem, Clarkson might be a bit of a twat, but he is our twat and when he does stuff like that he is really really good
@TheQuickSilver101
@TheQuickSilver101 3 года назад
The planning and organization that went into those bombing raids was incredible. Also, those British pilots had to be very brave souls to venture out in those outdated aircraft.
@itwoznotme
@itwoznotme 3 года назад
nah, they took a few rolls of gaffer tape and a flask of tea! all ok, nothing to see here!
@redroostermcmlxxl
@redroostermcmlxxl Год назад
Outdated! The Americans still fly the B.52, which the Vulcan would still fly rings round
@aniceguy9876
@aniceguy9876 Год назад
yeah 5 pound calculator LOL, not planning or organisation but people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RobDucharme
@RobDucharme 3 года назад
Simon Whistler: "I expect the dislikes to be high on this video." RU-vid likes to dislikes (as this is written): 6.1k vs 69. lol
@turbzjjc310
@turbzjjc310 3 года назад
RU-vid probably removed the thousands of dislikes... go ask Joe Biden. 😅
@francopetre6171
@francopetre6171 3 года назад
Simon overestimated his Argentine viewership ( one Argentine here)
@francopetre6171
@francopetre6171 3 года назад
The "superiority" of british forces was not why they won but rather the shortcomings of the Argentine leadership. From a military point of view reclaiming the Malvinas from Argentine forces, had their resources been properly used, would be next to impossible. Despite all the self inflicted harm on the Argentine side the British obtained victory with a very slim margen, had for example the Argentines : instead of conscripts from the warmer north sent the career soldiers (payed professional units) from the southern bases more familiar and better trained for the weather on the islands ( this was not done do to the continuing conflict with Chile seen by the leadership as a more likely conflict scenario than the British attack as well as some tension with Brazil), or delayed the attack until summer as opposed to fighting in winter 1000 kms from antarctica (the original operation was planned for summer and advanced due to internal political conflicts), or delayed the attack until they fully stocked their excocet missiles many of which were not delivered by France after the conflict began, or stationed the fleet's on the islands simultaneously with the land invasion, or managed to stretch the runway and infrastructure to accommodate the more powerful jets and operate from the islands as opposed to the mainland that left the pilots less than 3 minutes average of fuel once they reached the target area this also ment the British always knew what general direction the air attacks would come from, the heart of these pilots is admiral. The point is this was far from a clear victory when the conflict began and many of the British command had serious doubts as to it's success.
@maccumhaill5534
@maccumhaill5534 3 года назад
No, this Irish man says the British destroyed you in battle full stop. they can fight hard and well. RIP to the conscripts. Against Paras and Marines, no chance.
@everything777
@everything777 3 года назад
@@francopetre6171 Your soldiers were no match for para's, your navy was obsolete and your airforce ineffective. The only thing in your favour was the distance to the UK. This was a huge advantage and your inept government decided to gamble that there would be no retaliation. Honestly I'm very glad the UK won, because we also took a huge gamble: had we lost a war to an invading force, we may have been compelled to use the nuclear threat, or else it is not a viable threat in future. A terrifying prospect. As an aside - I've travelled extensively in Argentina and found the country exceptionally beautiful and the people most gracious and welcoming. Not once did anyone raise an eyebrow when we said we were British, it was a fantastic time and I'm glad there is no more fighting.
@thefrecklepuny
@thefrecklepuny 3 года назад
Prior to the B-2, the B-52 superseded the Vulcan with the longest bombing raid in history when 7 of them flew for 35 hours to launch 35 AGM-86 CALCM's against Baghdad in the opening night of 'Desert Storm' in 1991.
@Wppk765
@Wppk765 3 года назад
thefrecklepuny where did the crew go to the head? Did someone bring some empty Snapple bottles?
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 2 года назад
@@Wppk765 exactly. If they've been flying for that very long...they're gonna need to take a piss, their bladders would be hurting if they don't. Vulcan pilots during Op Black Buck did carry something very handy that helped them on their 16 hour round trip from Ascension to the Falklands and back. The "piss bag". I think was explained that on the show *"Guy Martin: Last Flight of the Vulcan Bomber".*
@SgTSmeG
@SgTSmeG 3 года назад
Would love to see some Australian Megaprojects, say Sydney Harbour Bridge?
@jjr6286
@jjr6286 3 года назад
Or the Perth Pub? ;)
@travisbunce7334
@travisbunce7334 3 года назад
Bridge no, Snowy Hydro yes
@anonymityismyfriend1504
@anonymityismyfriend1504 3 года назад
@@jjr6286 which one doofus
@christianiverson6870
@christianiverson6870 3 года назад
Rabbit / Dingo proof fences? You could toss the Emu war in there as a bonus.
@Tunechi_Lee
@Tunechi_Lee 3 года назад
It might be historical, but it's definitely not a mega project.
@thekeytoairpower
@thekeytoairpower 3 года назад
With due respect to Simon's point that the raids had little strategic or tactical effect, the same can be said of the Doolittle raid in WW2. There is something to be said about putting warheads on foreheads in a supposedly impregnable or unreachable stronghold. Mors Ab Alto and all that.
@afischer8327
@afischer8327 3 года назад
Yep, a lot of effort, and a quickly-repaired runway crater. It seems to have been a prestige mission for the RAF. With 1950s bombers using salvaged parts. Jeez. As Simon said, pure bloody-mindedness. Well, at least there was the Royal Navy which forced the Argentine Navy back to port, and various parts of the armed forces, including Commando and Parachute regiments, Welsh Guards, Scots Guards, Harriers at ground-attack, and other elements, not all succesful, to force capitulation. I can't criticise the original engineering of the Vulcans and Victors, but their time was long gone by then.
@TheAtomicSpoon
@TheAtomicSpoon 3 года назад
But like the Doolittle raid it had a good morale effect.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 года назад
Well, the Doolittle Raid did lead to Midway....
@abeelvago
@abeelvago 3 года назад
Actually it did, and just like the Doolittle raid, it showed an enemy, that one of their biggest assets, distance, was actually not a thing for the people they had attacked. That and that their enemy had the capacity to come knocking on their door, something they hadn't envisioned. That puts a new kind of fear into you.
@AvoidTheCadaver
@AvoidTheCadaver 3 года назад
It's a psychological thing. Telling your enemy that no matter where you are we can and will deploy the resources to attack you.
@fabiorabelo3506
@fabiorabelo3506 3 года назад
I do not know if the subject fit in the title, but The Falklands/Malvinas war have more curiosities, like it was the first time Harriers were used, and consequently the first time the Carrier 'Invincible" was used too .
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 года назад
Falklands.🇫🇰
@fabiorabelo3506
@fabiorabelo3506 3 года назад
@@AtheistOrphan Thanks... and corrected .
@jasonclark5484
@jasonclark5484 3 года назад
Black Buck One is best compared the US Doolittle Raid on Tokyo. Yes the damage was insignificant in physical terms but the phycological toll was major. After both raids Argentina and Japan both held much more forces in reserve close to their main territories than they had before. In the case of Argentina their air force had to operate from the main land and this greatly reduced their time and reach over the Task Force. If they had been able to base long range aircraft at Port Stanley they could have attract the Task Force days in advance of their arrival to the Exclusion Zone. Black Buck One changed the war disproportional to its real damage on the ground. Keep up the great work Simon.
@OMGtheEbolaVirus
@OMGtheEbolaVirus 3 года назад
Megaprojects suggestion: Buran shuttle.
@trstock7760
@trstock7760 3 года назад
This this this this!
@OMGtheEbolaVirus
@OMGtheEbolaVirus 3 года назад
@@trstock7760 I'm going to keep making this suggestion until it happens.
@celsetialarchives5909
@celsetialarchives5909 3 года назад
I think he did it all ready idk tho
@joshfloyd691
@joshfloyd691 3 года назад
That's been done
@OMGtheEbolaVirus
@OMGtheEbolaVirus 3 года назад
@@joshfloyd691 No it hasn't. He made a video for the plane that was made for Buran, but not a video on the shuttle itself.
@DJWyre
@DJWyre 3 года назад
I highly recommend the book 'Vulkan 607'. It goes into significant detail of the whole of Black Buck, which only serves to highlight how difficult this operation was. Most of the pilots had never performed air-to-air refueling as the Vulcans didn't even have their fueling pylons anymore; a part of one was found serving as an ashtray in an officer's mess. The EMCs were all geared to USSR tech, not the French kit the Argentines used, so the crews had to completely relearn all the frequencies, tactics and other details in a matter of days. Radar jamming units were literally glued to the tails of the Vulcans. Not to mention that there was no such thing as GPS. They couldn't fly down the whole coast of South America; they had to fly straight across the featureless South Atlantic by the means of accelerometers to keep them on course.
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 3 года назад
1:55 - Chapter 1 - War begins 4:10 - Chapter 2 - The task force 5:10 - Chapter 3 - Black buck 5:50 - Chapter 4 - Logistics 6:45 - Chapter 5 - The vulcans 7:50 - Chapter 6 - The victors 9:05 - Chapter 7 - Black buck 1 11:40 - Chapter 8 - Black buck 2/7 13:55 - Chapter 9 - The war 15:25 - Chapter 10 - A long way for very little
@theburrell4626
@theburrell4626 5 месяцев назад
I have had the pleasure of talking with Martin Withers's (pilot of Vulcan 2) a number of times I have to say he is one of the most interesting people I have met. He tells his story so well, what a guy he is.
@EricDKaufman
@EricDKaufman 3 года назад
Thank you for pointing out the even the captain of the Belgrano, Hector Bonzo, spent the last decade and a half of his life trying to set the story straight - That YES, his ship was a legitmate military target and sunk legally within the rules of war.
@dapprman
@dapprman 3 года назад
The Argentine military actually have been very honest about this for a long time, much to the disgust of the politicians. What also is ignored, even in the UK, was that the exclusion zone was for all non-British ships, any there, regardless of whether they were military or not, or Argentinian or not (one assumes any US ship would have been safe) then they would have been treated as hostile and dealt with as such. The British always considered all Argentinian military/naval ships to be fair game outside of territorial water and the latter exception was for international political reasons.
@TheAtomicSpoon
@TheAtomicSpoon 3 года назад
Plus IIRC the ship had to turn away from her target to use her launcher.
@glaslynx123
@glaslynx123 2 года назад
Pedantic I know ; but he didn't mention that the CAPTAIN of the Belgrano stated this, what he actually says is "An Argentine Commander has Claimed" YOU have pointed it out, so thank YOU
@rx323bug
@rx323bug 3 года назад
I love your videos, but you somehow made this amazing event sound like it was straight forward although a very long trip. This is a courageous story in which the crew of the Vulcan thought they were never going to have enough fuel to make it back but decided the mission was worth their lives and carried on anyway. There is a great doco on black buck that obviously had more time to go into the details, but this mission was far more intense than just a complex fuel relaying exercise.
@silviosantapaola2825
@silviosantapaola2825 3 года назад
I'm from Switzerland, and one day I disrespected a science teacher in 8th grade. As a punishment i was to teach the class for 1 and a half hours. I talked about this exact bombing run, the falkland war and the political struggles around it. but focussing on the technical and military hardware aspects of the operation since, to me at least, an excoset missile is more interesting than maggie thatcher. I did well, my mates found it very interesting or at least acted that way since they had my back in this endeavour. And my teacher was ashamed to say the least. For he did not know about the huge extent of this operation even though he lived through it and he was impressed that i could teach a class with ease. Thank you for making me remember this moment, i almost forgot. Cheers
@anthonylloyd6094
@anthonylloyd6094 9 месяцев назад
7:42 "and a whole lot of British bloody mindedness".... And, vast quantities of tea no doubt.
@charleswashbourn4209
@charleswashbourn4209 3 года назад
Please do the English electric lighting
@jdreyes3745
@jdreyes3745 3 года назад
That and the F-104 Starfighter would be good in this series.
@JWINDSOR
@JWINDSOR 3 года назад
Yes its stunning!
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 3 года назад
Why does a lightning have wings? To keep the nav lights apart.
@glaslynx123
@glaslynx123 3 года назад
@@jdreyes3745 The widowmaker, Yes that would be very interesting, especially if Simon included the bribery and corruption involved in selling it to Germany
@andyg3
@andyg3 3 года назад
vulcan, one of the best aircraft ever made. what a beast
@matthewirvine1361
@matthewirvine1361 3 года назад
Imagine if britain did what the Americans have been doing to their aircraft and update them, they would be awesome
@itwoznotme
@itwoznotme 3 года назад
great sound
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281 3 года назад
You should do a video on the whole V Bomber force along with the Blue Steel nuclear missile!
@ELCADAROSA
@ELCADAROSA 3 года назад
This was a good summary of the operation, given in a larger context. Nicely done. There is an excellent documentary of this specific operation that I've watched a few times that goes into greater detail as to what occurred during the lead up and execution of Black Buck 1. Search: "XM607 Falklands' Most Daring Raid. (Operations Black Buck)" ....................................... Black Buck 1, and its successor missions, were the British equivalent of the US' Dolittle Raid against Japan in April, 1942.
@Trapphausmusic
@Trapphausmusic 3 года назад
Simon “square space, king of RU-vid” whistler
@MisterAndrewBuckley
@MisterAndrewBuckley 3 года назад
He's a (raid shadow) Legend
@rgerber
@rgerber 3 года назад
Sparesquace
@carrioncrow8191
@carrioncrow8191 3 года назад
andrew buckley Allegedly
@garyneilson1833
@garyneilson1833 3 года назад
Interesting vido Simon, the attacks on the radar sites were to help disable the Argentinian air defences. They had many dual 35mm Oerlikon cannons which were radar controlled by Skyguard radar and if the radar was out of action the guns weren't as effective. Some of the radars and guns were brought back to the UK and were used by an Auxiliary RAF Regiment squadron to guard RAF Waddington
@66kbm
@66kbm 3 года назад
Only time i saw and "Experienced" the noise of a Vulcan was in 81 at RAF St Mawgan in Cornwall Airshow day. One thing a Vulcan always did at an Airshow was to fly low over the Runway and go into a vertical climb on full thrrust, a "Full Thrust" that ones chest will never forget. Anyone that has experienced this will know exactly what i mean. What mission was it that saw the last refueling from a Victor realise that the Vulcan was "shy", not enough, fuel? This mission the Victor Tanker pumped some of his own Aircrafts fuel into the Vulcan so it could complete its mission. An amazing and unique piece of Military Logistics never to be seen again.
@deanchivers6396
@deanchivers6396 3 года назад
Simon thank you so much, seen a few docs about this, but you doing it - AWESOME!!
@ashbolight
@ashbolight 3 года назад
Please can we have a megaprojects: dam busters
@enisra_bowman
@enisra_bowman 3 года назад
to bad with the current situation (and may be financial wise), that simon can't travel there and you can still see where the hole was today www.deviantart.com/enisrabowman/art/Edertalspeere-790635221
@ThePrisoner881
@ThePrisoner881 3 года назад
It's easy to say the raid -- indeed the conflict itself -- was a pointless waste of life, but that misses the bigger picture. Had Britain not stood up to defend its island, it would've been seen across the world as a sign of British military and political impotence. It would've invited other tinpot dictators to do the same as the Argentine junta. Better a small, pointless war than a much larger, much more dangerous war -- or series of wars -- across the world.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 3 года назад
It also saved Chile from an Argentine invasion, Galtieri said openly they'd finish off outstanding matters (the Beagle Channel) once they'd defeated Britain. Argentina came close (literally a few hours) of invading Chile in 1978, before US intervention stopped them (with the Pope as cover).
@DJWyre
@DJWyre 3 года назад
Some people forget that back in the 70s, the UK was sometimes called 'The Runt of Europe'; A once powerful nation of rotting post-industrial decline, stagnant politics, a self-destructive version of unionism and plummeting international importance (France actually argued against the UK joining the EEC). But if a failing military Junta deciding to distract it's people by occupying a UK territory with a force of miserable, poorly trained, poorly equipped conscripts, and _succeeded_ what shattered, shredded remains of respect the UK still desperately clung to around the world would be gone. Love her or hate her, when Thatcher was asked 'Why?', the answer was simple: 'Because we *must* '
@almafuertegmailcom
@almafuertegmailcom 3 года назад
Absolutely. It also saved Argentina. The Junta, after years of a disastrous government, started the war as a last desperate attempt to remain in power. And it worked, a vast majority of Argentinians supported the war, and suddenly were cheering for the government they abhorred just a few weeks earlier. Had they been allowed to keep the Islands, the dictatorship would have continued, instead of collapsing like it did. It also likely prevented a war with Chile. As an Argentinian, I can't believe many of my fellow countryman have actually been brainwashed into being proud of such a cowardly attack on what was mostly a civilian population.
@rasalasblack
@rasalasblack 3 года назад
Hear, hear. You, sir, just nailed the point!
@itwoznotme
@itwoznotme 3 года назад
dont mess with maggie. i think most PMs at that time, would have bottled it, but she had the balls to stand up to them!
@vrenespanolandenglish4504
@vrenespanolandenglish4504 3 года назад
How about the British project to build the abomb? Tube Alloys... that’d be a good one.
@roriquevernonii8439
@roriquevernonii8439 3 года назад
When you talked bout refitting the refueling systems, I remember a documentary with a personal account of someone grabbing a part that they saw being used as an ash tray, dumping out the ashes, then walking off with it because that was the only way to get some parts.
@angelarch5352
@angelarch5352 3 года назад
Even though the bombs mostly missed their targets, the fact that the UK could send bombers all the way to the islands, and thus proved that they could also easily bomb the Argentine capital-- this probably won the war. Argentina pulled most of their air force back to protect the mainland from a possible attack, and left the islands largely unprotected from the air for the entire war.
@scottpoole2182
@scottpoole2182 3 года назад
Have to admit I love the design of both aircraft. Very futuristic looking for something from the 50/60's.
@richardmason6263
@richardmason6263 8 месяцев назад
40s actually
@paulmanning8897
@paulmanning8897 3 года назад
According to Martin Wither`s book on the raid, "Vulcan something or other, it was he who dropped the bomb on the runway, there were about 9 Vulcans and 5 Victors needing to be re-fuelled on the bomb-run. The decision to who was going to do the bombing was a last-minute thing. It was far more complicated than described here.
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 3 года назад
Rideau Canal and the St Lawrence Seaway please.
@nikolaaswright6028
@nikolaaswright6028 3 года назад
Sandy hows it going??!
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 3 года назад
@@nikolaaswright6028 it goes ok bro, I suppose
@nikolaaswright6028
@nikolaaswright6028 3 года назад
Well I definetly know the winter blues well! Hows the weather out east?
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 3 года назад
@@nikolaaswright6028 was not bad until last night when the grass disappeared
@nikolaaswright6028
@nikolaaswright6028 3 года назад
aww s*it .. here it was -15 for about a week... I feel your pain... Where abouts are you?
@SCTimbal
@SCTimbal 3 года назад
Next Megaproject suggestion: The American Seabee bases in the Pacific.
@spudgun1978
@spudgun1978 3 года назад
Superfuse baby... Also part of the Vulcan refuelling kit was being used as an ashtray. Edit: Also the Vulcan bomb aiming and navigation kit was still WWII era, the "computers" were chain driven.
@zanda677
@zanda677 3 года назад
I have the privilege of knowing Martin withers well he is the most humbling person I know.
@bodieofci5418
@bodieofci5418 3 года назад
He's a sweet nice man for sure.
@anonnemo2504
@anonnemo2504 3 года назад
Excellent video and I like the emphasis at the end of the brilliance of the planning that went into these operations. I'd recommend the book, "Vulcan 607", by Rowland White, for more on this and the gruelling experience it presented for both the Vulcan and the Victor crews.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 года назад
Argies: “Caramba Pablo! If that is the size of their aircraft just how big is their aircraft carrier?”🇬🇧
@francopetre6171
@francopetre6171 3 года назад
Argentines don't say "caramba" so no
@paulmarchant9231
@paulmarchant9231 3 года назад
@@francopetre6171 it's from a famous cartoon at the time
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 3 года назад
"Argentina", excuse me, I think you meant to say "Western Falklands", thankyou very much!
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 3 года назад
Mainland Falklands!
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 3 года назад
I think you mean, "The Falkland Mainland".
@vipecrx
@vipecrx 3 года назад
I know the brits kinda have a taste for shit deals lately but do you really want a country in which the main activities are going bankrupt, the main export is just steak and the star is a coked up footballer known for cheating? and really bad weather down south too.
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 3 года назад
*M U S T C O L O N I Z E A L L L A N D*
@vipecrx
@vipecrx 3 года назад
@@jamesharding3459 lol
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L 3 года назад
Love the photos of the Victors refueling US Navy A-6s.
@adampoultney8737
@adampoultney8737 2 года назад
Minor point but at 8:03 the white Victor shown when explaining that the K2s were built as bombers is actually a Victor B1, XH588 (not to be confused with it's more famous Vulcan cousin, XH558). This one did however end up as a Victor K1a tanker. At 8:09 another K1a is shown, I can't make out a full serial but it begins with XH
@christopherwebb3517
@christopherwebb3517 3 года назад
The Falklands War started just before my 6th birthday. I have an uncle and aunt named Aubrey and Tina, with my uncle's name often shortened to "Aub." So every evening when my dad would watch the news, they'd repeatedly mention Argentina, only to my 5-year-old ears, they were saying "Aub and Tina." So I ate dinner every night with my family, genuinely confused, and wondering what happened to Aub and Tina, and why the people on the news kept mentioning them. True story.
@jefferyharshman3319
@jefferyharshman3319 3 года назад
Do the inhabitants of the Falklands think it was an absurd waste? How much is one's personal and national liberty worth? Given the Junta's record on human rights I would have welcomed the British soldiers as liberators. Isn't that why countries have armed forces?
@Petriefied0246
@Petriefied0246 3 года назад
The Falkland Islanders are unbelievably grateful for the sacrifices of British Servicemen during the conflict. Two exiled Falkland Islanders spoke at the UN and one was asked why they're so bothered about it; the reply was, it's our home. The resolve of the Argentine forces was also affected by the complete hostility they recieved from the locals that they were told they were coming to liberate. They flew Union Jacks and spoke English, they were not repressed Argentinians.
@ronclark9724
@ronclark9724 3 года назад
@@Petriefied0246 And the islanders drove on the wrong side of the road, the left...
@Petriefied0246
@Petriefied0246 3 года назад
@@ronclark9724 that's the correct side for civilised people.
@marcussmart3275
@marcussmart3275 3 года назад
@@Petriefied0246 were all mixed nuts, some good, some with amazing property's, some rotten. As long as theres good ones along side ones with amazing property's we will be alright.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 года назад
The big issue was that Argentina's Junta got what they wanted, seizing the Falkland Islands. However, they were not willing to pay the price of staying, as it alienated Argentina from the United States, at the cost of losing support for spare parts for Argentina's American Made Military Technology... So it was a Totally Absurd War, as Prime Minister Thatcher was unwilling to let diplomacy work, which would have resulted in almost no loss of life, and without the UK having to De-Landmine the Islands without a Landmine Map. The Reagan Administration was making headway on a negotiated peace and demilitarization of the Falklands, something Thatcher was absolutely unwilling to participate in... So 649 Argentine military personnel, 255 British military personnel, and three Falkland Islanders died. This clearly makes it an absurd war, but then most wars are absurd. The bombing of an Argentine Troop Transport Ship that was evacuating their personnel off of the islands was a very sick thing okayed by a very sick government, namely Thatchers...
@dougshaw2944
@dougshaw2944 3 года назад
Thanks. I always wanted to know more than the absolute basics about "H982 FKL" but never had the motivation to do the research.
@michael32A
@michael32A 3 года назад
Well ballanced video, I think. Plus, Fl Lt Martin Withers' crew in the Vulcan that completted Black Buck 1 all had hangovers after celebrating a significant birthday of one of their number into the small hours the night before, not expecting to be needed for the raid... 16:21 - Ooohh yes: WW2 Avro Lancaster crews who got to look at the Avro Vulcan recognised many parts (!) and the 'computer' aboard the Vulcan that calculated the timing of the drop was mechanical (bicycle chain, etc). The bombs used (the Shrikes not withstanding) were also of WW2 vintage in their design. Additionally, the preparatory calculations for the refuelling were done on a _very_ basic pocket calculator that cost £1 from a market stall in the quiet Norfolk village/town of Swaffham, like the calculator you'd find in a primary school pupil's pencil case. That is as high-tech as it got.
@stefanavic6630
@stefanavic6630 3 года назад
I'm not even at work. Gotta watch this one.
@sanderschuringa1
@sanderschuringa1 3 года назад
Simon: will you do an episode about the German Autobahn? A true mega project... Thanks!
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 года назад
The German Autobahn inspired the U.S. interstate system. Thanks IKE.....
@kkloikok
@kkloikok Год назад
"Hold my tea and watch this shit" -Thatcher, probably talking to the late Queen
@turtleonahottinroof8734
@turtleonahottinroof8734 3 года назад
Thank you for this post👍. I first heard of the Falklands from AM radio in the lead up and first saw them via grainy video on the network news. Aa 12-year-old (even a newspaper reading, history loving one), my reaction was, well, shrug? At some point during the early weeks of lockdown this past spring, that news clip of way too many warships around a way too small island came to mind, and I started to dig into the conflict generally. This video is awesome! Politics, colonialism, military dictatorships aside, this is a glimpse with a lot of depth into a miraculous military mission. 🖖🐢 (Lest you think my 'shrug' reaction is from a smug American,... my reaction to Grenada was 'shrug' and 'well, if Britain can do it, we can, too'.)
@spiritofthetime
@spiritofthetime 3 года назад
Norwich Air Museum has one of the surviving Vulcans from Black Buck on display, you can pay a fiver to sit up on the flight deck. They represent the apex of British aviation design and are quite remarkable aircraft.
@Wonderwhoopin
@Wonderwhoopin Год назад
This is one of the coolest extreme operations
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 3 года назад
THANK YOU for pronouncing “Junta” correctly!
@thomasstack4119
@thomasstack4119 3 года назад
Are there people who use the hard ‘j’?
@Thurnmourer
@Thurnmourer 3 года назад
@@thomasstack4119 Aye, quite a few as they read it in a more English manner rather than its Iberian-Latin.
@mikester1290
@mikester1290 3 года назад
@@thomasstack4119 People who know someone called John for example probably.
@Hellberch1
@Hellberch1 3 года назад
My Favourite little titbit of info on this Operation was that the re-fueling plan was calculated On a Casio Caculator that someone bought in WHSmith and not on some massively complex Computer
@rhysgamingnetwork6649
@rhysgamingnetwork6649 3 года назад
The task force itself is a mega protects with the ships taken up from trade, refits/ reactivations, and ships that were on exercise or just returned with crews going through maintenance periods/ crew leave
@JasonPrice1
@JasonPrice1 3 года назад
The reality of the bombing raids was that a response was needed ASAP and just like the Doolittle raids in WW2, this was all about messaging and much less about the actual targets. This is best demonstrated by the fact that one British SSN sent the entire Argentine fleet back to home port. As you stated, long term, there was no winning. But where the Falklanders were staunchly pro UK, there was nothing but support from them to be saved by whatever the "empire" could send.
@sammoore9689
@sammoore9689 3 года назад
When this war started, the usa diverted a ship full of fuel to that island and filled up all the tanks. U win a war with logistics.
@kessu83
@kessu83 2 года назад
and sidewinders hhaha
@NoMatterDesign
@NoMatterDesign 3 года назад
On this topic, I recommend the book: "Vulcan 607". I would like to know where you found the detail of the damaged fuel probe during the last Victor to Victor fuel transfer. Not questioning the accuracy but that was never mentioned in either books or interviews with the crew. The "official version" was always that they had insufficient/inaccurate data on the real fuel burn figures for the Vulcan. That in conjunction with forcing a formation of different aircraft, with different speeds for fuel efficiency, flying at similar altitude all the way reduced the total amount of available fuel in the Victor formation to be transferred to the Vulcan before the bomb run. That issue was corrected in subsequence missions.
@stormwell
@stormwell 3 года назад
Rowland White's book Vulcan 607 gives a much more fuller detail on the first raid. Black Buck is of particular interest to me as my uncle flew as Air Electronics Officer on the primary crew for the first raid (the one that had to abort), but went in on the second raid.
@sampsonite24
@sampsonite24 3 года назад
could we get a video on the Avro Vulcan itself?
@pauldriscoll5010
@pauldriscoll5010 3 года назад
Or even all 3 v bombers from the program
@user-ns2iv6ip3e
@user-ns2iv6ip3e 3 года назад
Victor Vulcan and Valeant
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281
@meikleleyvintageaircraftpa6281 3 года назад
2nd this! Along with Blue Steel.
@chrisroberts313
@chrisroberts313 3 года назад
Can you do a vid on the RN Buccaneers long range run to do a show of force over Honduras
@peterfielden-weston7560
@peterfielden-weston7560 3 года назад
I served during the Falklands war and was stunned by the strength of the task force sent down south. Not that long previously the government had decided that it was withdrawing its presence from the far east. This meant that HMS Ark Royal (R09) was no longer needed. The Ark was scrapped. Had the Ark not been scrapped it could have brought to the fight a squadron of Phantom interceptors, a squadron of Buccaneer Fighter bombers, a wing of Gannets for long ranger radar coverage, Sea King helicopters for antisubmarine warfare & troop transport. All in all that one ship would have "owned" a thousand miles around the Falklands. HMS Hermes (R12) did a magnificent job, but it was a job she wasn't designed for. I personally believe that, had the Ark not been scrapped then the war would never have happened.
@Icathianreign
@Icathianreign 3 года назад
thank you viewer for suggesting this amazing operation !
@robertdeal2910
@robertdeal2910 3 года назад
HMS Cantelope?!? Thank god HMS Honeydew & HMS Watermelon made it through...
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 года назад
Brilliant!😂
@Wppk765
@Wppk765 3 года назад
Robert Deal and people said it was a fruitless war....
@Penfold101
@Penfold101 3 года назад
Side projects - things which aren’t mega enough. So, Kiloprojects...?
@AvoidTheCadaver
@AvoidTheCadaver 3 года назад
Should we be expecting Gigaprojects sometime then?
@Penfold101
@Penfold101 3 года назад
@@AvoidTheCadaver speak to Slartibartfast about that one.
@MrSabumaru
@MrSabumaru 3 года назад
Simon, please make more... i'm watchin reruns... just to get trough the day
@flankerchan
@flankerchan 3 года назад
I recalled a journalist or maybe someone that refers the Falkalnds or Malvinas war as "Bald men's war for a comb"
@DukeShambles
@DukeShambles 3 года назад
BRO. Did you just call the HMS Antelope the "HMS Cantaloupe?" Business Blaze is bleeding over...I hear simon's cocaine calling him!
@clancyjames585
@clancyjames585 3 года назад
Yeah, heard that too...
@williammoore1984
@williammoore1984 3 года назад
@@clancyjames585 Me also, Had to rewind twice to make sure.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 года назад
Yes.....yes he did. Lol
@shenry6004
@shenry6004 3 года назад
I listened to it repeatedly, I clearly heard cantaloupe.
@emmanuellopez1130
@emmanuellopez1130 3 года назад
5 times I’ve rewind it’s too funny HMS CANTALOUPE 🍈
@EricDKaufman
@EricDKaufman 3 года назад
@11:20 Simon - The Black Buck Raids were ABSOLUTLY worth their weight in gold and critical to UK's victory. In fact, I will argue they were the cornerstone of British victory, or at least the ease of British victory. The Black Buck Raids weren't meant to cause significant damage at all. This was a UK territory with UK Civilians all over the place. Plus, the sole stated objective of Black Buck 1 was to knock out the runaway at the airport to prevent airborne relief operations to the Argentine Forces - this it was successful in, as The UK pretty much had assumed correctly the Argentines would have trouble repairing the runway quickly given the limited materials and and competent manpower on the island (Megaproject Idea - Modern Runway Engineering, it isn't like paving an M road). BUT FUTHERMORE. the Black Buck Raids said to the Argentine Junta, "Hey, we can reach out and touch you." And the psychological & political effects of knowing they could hit the Argentinian homeland was immeasurable. Remember, the Junta was teetering already and would ultimately fall as a result of the loss of the war they so foolishly started. And thus, almost immediately military support amongst the bickering and rival Argentine branches of service began to crumble. With the one bomb hit that counted on that runway, the Argentine forces on the Falklands were doomed with no practical or political means for relief/resupply/reinforcement or even... escape. There morale began to dwindled, and while they did put up a competent defense against the Scottish Dragoons* (ERROR - see below), ultimately the bulk of their forces were conscripts with no will to fight a hopeless cause. P.S. - Ronnie and The Old Iron Box in the golf cart... Priceless!!! *ERROR - Thanks to Steve for the correction. It was 5 Commando Brigade of the Royal Marines backed up by 3 Infantry Brigade of the British Army. The Royal Scottish Dragoons are a mechanized light line calvary unit. And land vehicles did not play a large part in the Falklands War, as made famous by the 50 km march over open terrain to reach Port Stanley after the loss of all but one chinook helicopters on the Atlantic Conveyor to Exocet missile strike.
@erichpizer1
@erichpizer1 3 года назад
one vulcan spare part was an ashtray in the break room and had to be grabbed , cleaned machined and fitted etc, see the documentary from the bbc on that raid and interviews with the pilots. balls of steel.
@rodt2339
@rodt2339 3 года назад
Hi Simon, an interesting take on the Black Buck missions, during the Falkland’s War. May I correct a couple of points, the BB5 mission target of the TPS43 radar - The radar operator saw the launch of the missiles and rapidly shut the radar down, denying the missiles homing ability. Non the less, the first missile went in and hit just beyond the radar by some few yards. It damaged the radar head and cabling between the radar and the operator’s cabin. The second missile, having less time to acquire the position, landed near the Operator’s cabin, but did little damage. Black Buck 6, destroyed a Skyguard radar that was targeting the aircraft, killing 4 of the operators. The Brazilian fighter aircraft never found the Vulcan, as it flew over the coast near Rio. The longest Vulcan mission was in fact for 16hrs 5min, that was BB5, the missile raid. They were the longest missions back in 1982.
@MumblingNoob
@MumblingNoob 3 года назад
My old man slept through the bombing while the rest of Stanley hid.
@taffwylam6238
@taffwylam6238 3 года назад
John is your dad Bobby short?
@MumblingNoob
@MumblingNoob 3 года назад
@@taffwylam6238 no, but he is my cousin.
@taffwylam6238
@taffwylam6238 3 года назад
@@MumblingNoob ahh ok, I was based down at mare harbour so shared quite a few beers with Bobby and lyndsay
@cynthiasimpson931
@cynthiasimpson931 3 года назад
I remember when this happened. I also remember when the Sheffield was sunk.
@PiersLawsonBrown1972
@PiersLawsonBrown1972 3 года назад
The Victor was never a conventional bomber, it was designed and built as one of the three Nuclear bombers for the RAF, the other two being the Vulcan and Valiant. After it was withdrawn from the nuclear role it was converted to being a tanker. Valiant was retired after just 10 years of service due to metal fatigue in the main spar.
@owenshebbeare2999
@owenshebbeare2999 3 года назад
My uncle flew Victors, both before and after they lost their nuclear role. He has always maintained they were the best of the V-bombersin terms of flexibility.
@hansolo2585
@hansolo2585 3 года назад
yooooooooooo i love ur videos!! keep making more and more!
@sandybarnes887
@sandybarnes887 3 года назад
12 channels aren't enough? 😆
@mbmann3892
@mbmann3892 3 года назад
Credit where credit is so. The Vaulcan’s are pretty aircraft. And who can hate a flying wing .
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 3 года назад
The Vulcans were Delta-Wing Aircraft, not "flying wing" aircraft...
@jorge8596
@jorge8596 3 года назад
When you said the distance from Ascension to the Falklands you actually said the distance from the UK to the Falklands
@ritual64
@ritual64 3 года назад
Can you please place a timestamp for when he mentions the distance between the ascension and the falklands? I only heard him make mention of the distance from the uk to the falklands. I think he said that the uk-falkland distance was over 12,000 km.
@clancyjames585
@clancyjames585 3 года назад
@@ritual64 About 1:20, maybe a few seconds earlier. The map says about 6-7 thousand kms, but the overlaid text on the map, and Simon's voice, says about 12 000km.
@ritual64
@ritual64 3 года назад
@@clancyjames585 yeah, got it, thanks. Don’t know how I missed that one. Definitely a Doh! moment. Had he said a return journey from Ascension to the Falkland’s, that would have added up but he didn’t. Doh!
@Hi11is
@Hi11is 3 года назад
Actually it was the round trip distance between Ascension and the Falkland Islands, and it was nautical miles not miles. The 6300 km distance is not correct (it's from Wikipedia), it should be 6100 km.
@ritual64
@ritual64 3 года назад
@@Hi11is I was using approximations to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not as though I access to where he gets his data from, I made an approximation on a return trip. I didn't get the distance from Wikipedia (if his researchers did well professional researcher's should know better than just taking from one source). Personally I approximated from Google maps which takes it from one point on the Ascension Islands to one point on the Falkland Islands.The actual distance, according to google maps, from the English air base in the Ascension's to the Capital Port Stanley, in the Falkland's (Islas Malvinas), is distance: 6,263.33 km (3,891.85 mi), from their measure tool. I'm sure that doesn't factor in anything remotely like what route the pilots actually took but that's the distance according to Google maps measure tool, point to point. It's only one source but I cannot be arsed finding another. Maybe his researchers were in the same frame of mind.
@katiewatie2458
@katiewatie2458 3 года назад
this really is some good 3am with nothing else to do content, i love it. keep it up
@videowilliams
@videowilliams 3 года назад
Haha! Exactly what I'm using it for right now.
@5alm0n
@5alm0n 3 года назад
Thank you for doing this video! I still think a mega project on the V bombers would be great
@Not_epic_josh
@Not_epic_josh 3 года назад
Simon is building a clone army of channels
@Wppk765
@Wppk765 3 года назад
Autistic guitar order 66....it’s coming....
@Jack-hg1hq
@Jack-hg1hq 3 года назад
Argentina: hmm those islands look tasty the royal air force: allow us to introduce ourselves
@myxtro7933
@myxtro7933 3 года назад
If you're interested, a video about Flevoland would fit the channel. Building an entire province from scratch (without war) is quite impressive.
@elliotshaw9453
@elliotshaw9453 3 года назад
I love this channel side projects and mega projects
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