It's what I miss most. Patrice and ant were both being 100% honest with each other in an unfiltered conversation, without either of the two feeling/knowing the other was lying. Both had "goofy" (throwback to Patrice) sides to their argument, but both had realistic conversations that won't be had ever again for a public forum
thats true.. unfortunately ant is too pre-programmed one way, and patrice the other way- so while they were both personally honest, the world they presented was often unrealistic
I looked up "politicians reading to kids", went to images, and Anthony is 100% correct!! Over 90% of the images were a bunch of ethnically diverse (non-white kids, mostly black kids) children. hahahahahaha. The thing that Ant was annoyed about is the pandering going on. If I was black I would be even more annoyed that politicians treat my race like their pet victim to take photo ops with.
I miss Ant and Patrice on the O and A show. Doesn't matter who you agree with. These honest arguments about race are highly entertaining. And there's no hate between the two of them, no matter how heated it gets.
Patrice saying the left was the white version of Uncle Tom was something I never thought about in those words before but makes complete sense. It matches up almost as a 1 to 1. Genuinely one of the greatest comedians and social commentators to have lived. Rest in peace
The main reason the conversation worked is because no one got personal and if it did they didn’t take it hard. Grown men talking kinda crazy but Patrice kept people grounded
I gotta give Patrice big props in this clip. More truth from him then anyone else i here( except little Jimmy who tells to much. lol) God bless the guy. Wish he was still around. R.I.P. big guy.
I don’t think he a racist. That implies that he thinks whites are better than blacks, and I don’t think he thinks that. His relationship with Patrice and Keith Robinson, and other black people, demonstrates that. It seems he just has problems with, or doesn’t understand, elements of the black culture.
@@TheMendo123 That doesn't excuse him from criticism. Also it was the same with him, he wouldn't admit it until it benefitted him to do so, such as in the case you just exemplified, when trying to build yourself up by calling others hypocrites.
Patrice would have bridge the race gap between all races through his insightfulness, hillarity and flat out unapologetic truth, DAM. Smh. Slightly tearing.
It's better than not trying. I love when they shit on a caller instantly, even the comedians that call in to try and defend themselves. Bobby Kelly got shit on anytime his name showed up. It also adds to the variety of their improvisation, which is a bizarre skill to develop.
This is by far one of the best REAL debates/conversations I've heard in a long time. There are some funny stuff in here but good points are very well made.
I work as a tour guide here in the Caribbean (formerly lived in the US)...few weeks back we had two families from Scotland in our groups. One from Glasgow...one from Edinburgh. Guess which one i had to really focus on to understand when talking?
Ant finally admits that he's not going to vote for Obama because he's black and then quotes Dr. King speech, don't judge a man by the color of his skin but by the content of his character...Ok
Didnt that happen when Donald Trump was elected?? Black folks didnt vote for him because he is white! No one is perfect my dude, all of us have hate its just human, some just hate more than others
@@kevinjohnson7300 The blacks that do hate Trump, that's it. It's just hate. They're not quoting a white philosopher or white quotes to seem hypocritical.
Patrice was so right about how white people and black people know R. Kelly. White people know R. Kelly by "I believe I can fly" Black people know R. Kelly by "boohooohoooty"
I refuse to code switch. It’s completely disrespectful to yourself and the person you are talking with that happens to speak in a different cadence or different vernacular than you. Look if you have black friends that are college educated and incredibly articulate you shouldn’t need to disrespect a younger black guy that doesn’t have a higher education that talks “thuggish” Fact is, you develop your own style of communication and blanket it to everyone and instead of “code switching” you speak honestly and feel out the situation.
@@sentientdogma1206 yea but it's not about doing it between your peers, it's mainly used for predominantly white work places or social settings. We've developed it out of a necessity to disarm white people and conform to their societal standards of how a civilized and respectable person speaks. Alot of the time, they won't give you the time of day if you speak to them the way that you speak to other black people.
I looked up "politicians reading to kids", went to images, and Anthony is 100% correct!! Over 90% of the images were a bunch of ethnically diverse (non-white kids, mostly black kids) children. hahahahahaha
@Peter Parkher no point? The point is kind of self explanatory; that politicians pander to minorities and the example of evidence illustrated in the debate is that politicians read mostly to minority children for the photo op.
@@nickdipaolofan5948 saying politicians pander is like saying water is wet. I don’t really see how it implicates minorities who are being read to. A sad reality is that Black people are, on average, much more likely to be poor in this country and would ostensibly benefit more from voting for the political party that is at least talking about attempting to possibly do some sort of programs to help the poor.
This is great, the only way to uncover racial tension is to have an honest discussion, can't just dismiss someone for their opinion, anything is on the table, nothing can't be talked about.
You have to see it from a black perspective,he covered that when he said "as supposed to what 300 years of old white guys". If your white and there has been nothing but black presidents eventually even by bias you would want a white president for the sake of the odds.
So true. But the scale is what is troubling in the black community. When a white dork buys a 5k superman doll, other white people make fun of him just as much as black people. But when a black person spends 5k on rims for a car only worth 2k, all the other blacks don't bat an eye. Also, blacks tend to spend a lot of money on depreciating assets (expensive cloths, rims that will be out of style in 5 years, jewelry that is tacky and will be dated in 5 years, etc). Although I laugh at the dork buying a superman comic book or some shit, at least those are collectibles and likely to go up in value over the years. This is why blacks on average have almost no net worth, because they purchase shit that does not keep its value, but whites usually buy things that maintain or go up in value over time.
Ant cannot harp on and on about how black and white culture are different and then expect Oprah to give the same speech to different audiences. People sound differently at work versus shooting the shit with friends. So obviously you are going to sound different depending on how and who you're appealing to.
Nobody was better at talking about race than Patrice in an honest funny way, apart from Pryor and maybe Bill Burr. He told it like it was about blacks and whites. He praised and slammed both. And fairly.
Holy crap, first minute Patrice says "What, you afraid he's going to make guns in your home illegal" Welp here we are a couple years later and what's going on in the USA??
but are the guns illegal.. as far as I know you can have your gun... but if you feel the need to buy a AK-47 to hunt deers or home defense.. that shit should be illegal why do average everyday citizens need a gun that has mass killing potential... I dont get why gun owners talk dumb shit like this... and yes I own 2 hand guns and I have no desire to have an assault rifle.
***** What does it matter if the person is a responsible gun owner? Whether it be an AR with a 30 round magazine or a Marlin Model 60 if a stable, responsible, sane gun owner owns any gun there isn't going to be a mass killing.
That caller is right .I notice whenever Ant had an Italian American on his show like Pat Cooper he would drop into that New York Italian American accent .
I'm a Hawaiian. Here in Hawaii we speak with an accent called Pidgin English and it can be hard to understand for people not from here. I once worked in a hardware store for 4 years and decided to suppress my accent so that foreign and white people could understand me better but when I'm around friends and family I speak in my natural accent. My point is that I disagree that Oprah was being fake when she spoke differently infront of certain crowds. Would it be considered fake if she learned Japanese and spoke to a Japanese crowd?
merces47letifer He doesn't speak the truth, he brings up valid points that should be welcome in the discussion but he neglects a majority of the logic when he debates people.
konatown5 This is amazing. I wish I had a forum, or enough hours in the day to workout my thoughts out loud. I always laugh at how much we agreed on things, RIP Patrice. Anthony is the conscience of somewhat PC racists. I agree that he has had some amazingly hilarious moments over the last 20 years. Somehow Patrice always takes Anthony where he wants to take him.
This is a great example of why Opie and Anthony being very different worked so well. It allowed things like this, where Anthony could just go totally off the rails with Patrice and Opie would just step in around the breaks to keep it grounded. That relationship was definitely a case of "I know you hate him, but suck it up because the combo WORKS"
'We need a mustache to hate'...man, that was creative...great segment all around...the 'just working the crowd' point was pretty obvious...'clowning' or 'goofing around' or whatever is just a part of the culture...I lived in an apartment building with a bunch of 'those people' and that's what the called it 'clownin', just being silly to have fun
I think a better example Patrice should've used would be if Ant, someone very rich and successful because he built something using his comedic talents, would then go and do a speech to airconditioner installers, using their jargon. Granted it doesn't carry an inflection but I can see Ant getting sucked into it again on some level and feeding into it.
"Martha Stewart doesn't have to relate to a hip hop kind of world..." -Patrice O'neal Meanwhile, Snoop and Martha bakin' it up these days. A lot of stuff Patrice said has manifested somehow. Even what he DIDN'T expect.
Does anybody know any radio show or podcast like this? With unfiltered funny conversations. Rogan, Theo Von, Andrew tate and bill burr are the only guys I got that come close to OA+P
Look up the video on Patrice talking about the Obama deception. He wasn't blind to what was going on with Obama. His thing was that all the presidents are full of shit so why not let a black one be full of shit too.
I think Oprah is famous enough that everybody knows what she does so its not like shes being phoney or dishonest. They know what she is. Thats understood and shes being more honest by acknowledging the crowd shes in front of.
❤ It would be awesome if Patrice was still alive then we could point out Joe Rogan's giant werewolf in the Lobby of his podcast, definitely in the same venue as a life-size statue of Superman
I understand both their points, but what annoys me is the fact that she has to sound uneducated to relate to black people. If I were black I would even feel offended... It's condescending and disrespectful towards the group of people you are aiming at when you "dumb yourself down" in order to create empathy.... and even though we all do it, but the problem is, black people didn't even realize!
