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Oppenheimer - Explosive Historical Drama 

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Christopher Nolan's historical epic about the man behind the Manhattan Project, starring Emily Blunt, Cillian Murphy, Matt Damon, Robert Downey Jr, Florence Pugh and Kenneth Branagh is finally here. But does it fizzle out, or go off with a bang?

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@cosas_de_gatos
@cosas_de_gatos 10 месяцев назад
I have to say it’s a relief to see a movie that isn’t 99% unfunny jokes and takes itself seriously. I mean, you’d expect an Oppenheimer movie to be dark but these days you honestly can’t tell
@proxjayant
@proxjayant 10 месяцев назад
barbie movie is also dark but in another way
@bob_the_bomb4508
@bob_the_bomb4508 10 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer the Musical :)
@fell9654
@fell9654 10 месяцев назад
It does have some moments of wry humor, like the visual metaphor used during the clearance review "trial"
@oregonvibez
@oregonvibez 10 месяцев назад
ITS OPPENTIME 💣 *Nukes the barbie playhouse*
@TEGRIDY_FARMS
@TEGRIDY_FARMS 10 месяцев назад
Emily Blunt was definitely hilarious during her testimony.
@doubtingthomas6752
@doubtingthomas6752 10 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer - the creator of what boomers thought would destroy society. Barbie - the manifestation of the ideology that actually destroyed society.
@maxounette-jv7dj
@maxounette-jv7dj 10 месяцев назад
nicely put 😂
@TheLittleRedVixen
@TheLittleRedVixen 10 месяцев назад
Bro Barbie is just a movie. I don't think a pink movie is going to destroy SoCiEtY.
@turbokid8719
@turbokid8719 10 месяцев назад
@@TheLittleRedVixendon’t worry that Barbie just put the nails into the coffin😂
@shevankaseneviratne1724
@shevankaseneviratne1724 10 месяцев назад
shit movies doesnt mean broken civilization man. Ironically thats a snowflake take.
@doubtingthomas6752
@doubtingthomas6752 10 месяцев назад
@@TheLittleRedVixen You are obviously missing the point.
@TeddylsALiar
@TeddylsALiar 10 месяцев назад
The biggest shock of this for me was the trinity test when you're in your seat bracing for a deafening explosion but instead get deafening silence. The tension in the cinematic was palpable during those 30 or so seconds and then you are hit with it. What an experience.
@veronikamajerova4564
@veronikamajerova4564 10 месяцев назад
Yep. And what´s great about that, it IS how it realy works. Light travels faster than sound and pressure wave - you can see it easily during thunderstorm, when you first see the lighting, and later (depending how far the lighting striked) hear the thunder. This is the same principle, just with... a little bigger boom.
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 10 месяцев назад
If I heard a large loud rolling booming sound I would have walked out.
@TeddylsALiar
@TeddylsALiar 10 месяцев назад
Doubt that
@RH-nk7eo
@RH-nk7eo 10 месяцев назад
Seeing it at the IMAX with that amazing sound system was one of my all time top cinema experiences. That entire sequence was incredible.
@sheepj2464
@sheepj2464 10 месяцев назад
I jumped when it happened because ide been expecting it to long
@BlitzKreegRock
@BlitzKreegRock 10 месяцев назад
I think the Nostalgia Critic actually summarized the feeling of the last hour of the film best: you see a man give his life to a project, only to feel it slowly unravel along with his trust of humanity.
@Marchers46
@Marchers46 10 месяцев назад
That’s... actually a perfect way to describe it really.
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 10 месяцев назад
The last hour may have sounded good on paper; on film it is sophomoric courtroom drama…which tells the world that Nolan is still a poor-man’s Michael Mann or Ridley Scott. I cross my fingers for his next film.
@gadjox
@gadjox 10 месяцев назад
@@gokhanersan8561 The subsequent humiliation of Oppeheimer is an essential part of the history of this man. The film would be incomplete if it ended with the bomb being dropped.
@gokhanersan8561
@gokhanersan8561 10 месяцев назад
@@gadjox That’s why Nolan should’ve watched some movie classics or consulted more accomplished creatives to find out how he could tell that story “artfully” instead of putting lines into actor’s mouths for insufferable 60 minutes. Robert Downey’s tirades at the end were bordering on the comedic….and if a Nolan fan brings up Heath Ledger’s Joker again as a benchmark of cinematic greatness…I will have no choice but bring up Bruce Glover’s Mr. Wint lol.
@GenomeSoldierDK
@GenomeSoldierDK 10 месяцев назад
@@gokhanersan8561 Nolan wasn't forcing these lines down the actors throats. Everyone on the project has said that Nolan is great at providing a space for them to improvise and make the character and dialogue their own. But if you found it insufferable and boring I can't take that away from you. I personally also started getting slightly impatient at some point, but I got ADHD and I was resisting going to the bathroom for the entirety of the movie. xD
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 10 месяцев назад
Im just glad that a little part of Hollywood still understands that people want to see stories: 1. That aren't remakes 2. About people without superpowers. 3. That arent pushing identity politics.
@stonedfinn3649
@stonedfinn3649 10 месяцев назад
It’s great how Nolan refuses to push or romtanticize any of Oppenheiners beliefs
@pokeyanteater598
@pokeyanteater598 10 месяцев назад
You mean aren't about people with superpowers?
@briangruenewald7536
@briangruenewald7536 10 месяцев назад
We’re tired of _THE MESSAGE_ constantly being peddled to _MODERN AUDIENCES_ .
@sqb2
@sqb2 10 месяцев назад
This.
@1234legend1234
@1234legend1234 10 месяцев назад
But they seem to always make films based on real stories. They even made a film about how Air Jordans came about. They've ran out of ideas so they just make historical dramas. I don't need to watch the film when I can read the Wiki.
@DeadshotNo1
@DeadshotNo1 10 месяцев назад
The cast and the acting blew me away. Having Gary Oldman for a scene that lasts a minute is such a Nolan thing to do😂
@GeordieSwordsman
@GeordieSwordsman 10 месяцев назад
That's two Allied WW2 leaders Oldman's played now. Looking forward to him as Stalin to complete the set. Then the crossover event of the century: Yalta, starring Gary Oldman, Gary Oldman and Gary Oldman.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 10 месяцев назад
@@GeordieSwordsman OH DEAR 🤣 ..BUT i'd watch it...
@fell9654
@fell9654 10 месяцев назад
Oldman trying to offer him his handkerchief is the dickest of dick moves
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 10 месяцев назад
That scene actually happened in real life.
@paultapner2769
@paultapner2769 10 месяцев назад
I didn't even realise that was him till I read this. Wow.
@VorpalMace
@VorpalMace 10 месяцев назад
I would like to give a bit of a praise to how Oppenheimer's relationship with Teller is depicted. Oppenheimer has lot of conflicts with others throughout the movie, but I found his moments with Teller particularly memorable, because despite all their differences they both show mutual respect towards the other when needed. Understanding what is at stake makes it even more powerful. I found it quite refreshing after all the bantering frenemies we get in superhero flicks. Also, Einstein's comment about awards being more about those who hand them out than those who receive them is pure gold.
@rog6725
@rog6725 10 месяцев назад
well said
@davidschneider9145
@davidschneider9145 10 месяцев назад
Considering how hard the real life Teller threw Oppenheimer under the bus it’s kinda questionable whether he really respected Oppi or not
@tohnic441
@tohnic441 10 месяцев назад
Everyone wants to talk about the ending scene where Oppenheimer utters his famous line, but that Einstein dialogue right before was even more powerful, showing that Einstein wasn't just smart, but also wise as a person
@keithremedy
@keithremedy 10 месяцев назад
@@davidschneider9145he did he actually used to be on a radio show that my pops used to listen to. He talked about the project and that part of his life quite a bit. I think the red scare and MCarthy era really shook people at that time & that played a part with teller saying what he said. People don’t realize how bad the FBI & sections of the government was up people’s ass during those years. Just like we see now with the DOJ going after journalist & anybody that’s a outsider or going against the status quo now that’s where all that shit kind of started. I mean WW2 the 40s is when the military industrial complex really took off essentially
@keithremedy
@keithremedy 10 месяцев назад
@@tohnic441just seeing it tonight that was probably one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie
@edandollie
@edandollie 10 месяцев назад
As an academic scientist, I can safely say all the scientists in the film behaved like scientists usually do and were portrayed excellently :) I really enjoyed the movie - the time flew by.
@tsunamimae1965
@tsunamimae1965 10 месяцев назад
Feynman even played his bongos :D
@user-pq9sw4rr2b
@user-pq9sw4rr2b 10 месяцев назад
I feel the same - I was still shaking hours after the movie ended.
@SeroTsukiyama
@SeroTsukiyama 10 месяцев назад
@@tsunamimae1965 yeah he played his bongos. The only thing he did in the movie....
@Brian-uq4wu
@Brian-uq4wu 10 месяцев назад
Enjoy might be a strong word. Nodded and scribbled incoherently on my clipboard might be more accurate
@egdapo
@egdapo 10 месяцев назад
Time ABSOLUTELY flew by. I loved this film
@Logan5635
@Logan5635 10 месяцев назад
Having the movie “overly intellectual” was actually a plus for me. Almost every movie holds your hand and treats you like a child nowadays. Was so refreshing to have an intelligent movie with intelligent characters.
@alesksander
@alesksander 10 месяцев назад
Yep this. Totally! Finally something too ponder and chew on after all those yrs of slugfests and drivel. I even agree with criticisms that it should involve even more tech porn and math...
@aufwiedersehen483
@aufwiedersehen483 10 месяцев назад
same, i love a movie that twists my brain inside out
@avimbo
@avimbo 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, I'm sick of being spoonfed everything. It's that same lack of respect for the audience's intelligence and imagination that's given rise to the countless slew of prequels, sequels and origin stories for IPs that are now totally creatively bankrupt.
@laserpoint3741
@laserpoint3741 10 месяцев назад
@@drt1605 you will probably love this movie then, its an impactful and thought provoking movie
@drgordo112
@drgordo112 10 месяцев назад
I feel the same way
@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541
@yohanesbobbysanjaya3541 10 месяцев назад
A few minutes scene where Emily Blunt Character stood up for Oppenheimer in that tiny court room showed more power and intelligence than all the mary sue(s) in the past decade combined... including Barbie
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 10 месяцев назад
Probably because it was portraying an actual strong woman from the real world.
@liamphibia
@liamphibia 10 месяцев назад
My respect for Emily Blunt as an actress and as a person grows more and more.🙂
@matt291
@matt291 10 месяцев назад
Also when she shames him for hiding in the hills after his betrayal. "Ain't got no time for self pity!"
@__thebadger
@__thebadger 10 месяцев назад
I disagree, she didn't really stand up to anything or anyone. She was extremely snarky and bratty, that's for sure. "I don't like the way you're phrasing that question" , "maybe 16 years. Maybe 17. Or 18. Maybe 19. I don't know. It was a long time ago" was nothing other than childish behavior. As far as the "well I thought American and soviet communism were different. I no longer believe that" is bs. The communists were losing worldwide in numbers and support. They lost in Spain. Russia was starving. And America was done with it. She didn't quit communism or anything, the communists were simply kicked out and she had no legs to stand on. Plus she was trying to save her husband's career which was already over with by the time they got to her. I thought her testimony was as pathetic as she was a woman.
@joelreis5366
@joelreis5366 10 месяцев назад
And the staredown at the end. It could melt steel. She was great indeed.
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 10 месяцев назад
I love how this movie didn't oversimplify oppenheimer to "man sad because he made allegedly destructive weapon" which I expected. It was surprisingly complex
@SkiLLAGEx94
@SkiLLAGEx94 10 месяцев назад
I knew nolan wouldn't, hes too passionate about film making to throw him under the bus like that
@ardisgreenwater857
@ardisgreenwater857 9 месяцев назад
Allegedly xD
@Blaze6108
@Blaze6108 8 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer himself stated that he was fully aware of what he was doing and that he disliked the narrative of being clueless about the bomb, because it detracted from what he actually wanted to accomplish, which was ensuring that the atom bomb remained a one-off and that its technology remained tightly controlled and as slow-rolled as possible. And albeit not perfectly, his vision today is alive and well. Nuclear weapons are in fact tightly regulated, uranium is quadruple-checked, isotopes are counted by the milligram. There's a famous case of a uranium mine that at some point mysteriously lost something like a 0.3% of its fissile isotope in a delivery to France, and multiple people almost got black-bagged over it until it was discovered that this mine, in the geological past, hosted the Earth's only natural fission reactor that had consumed the missing isotopes.
@darkglobe406
@darkglobe406 5 месяцев назад
this movie is really good . better than the killers of the flower moon for sure . those were the 2 most anticipated movies for me and oppenheimer is the winner .
@axyspianostudio
@axyspianostudio 5 месяцев назад
​@@ardisgreenwater857 Yeahh cuz it totally didn't kill hundreds of thousands of japanese folk and destroy 2 entire japanese cities
@elvisleeboy
@elvisleeboy 10 месяцев назад
I truly hope the success of this film sends a message out that we at least sometimes want intellectual content, rather than just mindless escapism and patronising sanctimonious messages. Oppenheimer never once told us what to think about the events depicted in the film. It simply told the story and left us to decide for ourselves.
@Really250
@Really250 10 месяцев назад
Well put. It never preaches which is kind of amazing now a days.
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 10 месяцев назад
My brother and me (my name is bubba) really liked the sex scenes, and also the explosion was better than what we even do behind the house. Christ Nolin is truely a good actor
@breakdown3317
@breakdown3317 10 месяцев назад
The best Take here, good job
@aurelius8180
@aurelius8180 10 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer intellectual? watch European movies.
@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw
@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw 10 месяцев назад
​@@Williamb612 thw sex scenes were unnecessary tbh
@bikramarora1819
@bikramarora1819 10 месяцев назад
That scene where that general didn’t want to bomb Kyoto because his wife and him vacationed there is far more haunting than any schmaltzy depiction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki could’ve ever been. Nolan’s cold, precise, and technically focused style of filmmaking was the perfect fit for this movie.
@bloopboop9320
@bloopboop9320 10 месяцев назад
That's not the historical reason. The arguments for and against Kyoto was because of how culturally important it was and whether wiping out the cultural capital of a nation was too immoral. Did their honeymoon influence it? Sure, but it was also argued that if they bombed Kyoto then Japan might eternally become an enemy against America and would.be something not easily forgotten.
@conordoyle2579
@conordoyle2579 10 месяцев назад
That scene made me sick to me stomach. I was only recently in Kyoto and to think that people there could’ve been bombed if a small group of men decided to pick it is harrowing. Shows the real disconnect between people high up in army/government and everyday people
@Ozymandias1
@Ozymandias1 10 месяцев назад
Truman wanted to bomb Kyoto as it was the heart of Japanese culture and he thought the Japanese would surrender faster if it was destroyed.
@sawanwinchester4781
@sawanwinchester4781 10 месяцев назад
That entire scene was so chilling. And I think he made the right choice not showing the actual bombing. Kept that chill alive.
@Grasslander
@Grasslander 10 месяцев назад
It isn't true, though. He didn't want Kyoto bombed because of the cultural and historical value it had for Japan. Which he knew about because yes, he had been there. That is secondary to the point.
@alissa8760
@alissa8760 10 месяцев назад
I love how Emily Blunt played Kitty, how you can see her faults and struggles as a mother yet how much she respects Oppenheimer and is in his corner, literally the only one standing up for him. The scene where she was questioned was just amazing.
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 10 месяцев назад
You could say she was a strong female character.
@siemabyq6703
@siemabyq6703 10 месяцев назад
​@@janisir4529yeah but actual good one
@Bits-n-Bobsss
@Bits-n-Bobsss 10 месяцев назад
Emily blunt was awful.
@alissa8760
@alissa8760 10 месяцев назад
@@Bits-n-Bobsss Lol, you’re not beating the stereotype that you just hate women in any piece of media… get a life.
@Bits-n-Bobsss
@Bits-n-Bobsss 10 месяцев назад
@@alissa8760 I've seen the movie, she was awful. As were Kenneth Branagh and numerous other MALE actors. Good thing I only paid 1,50 euro to see this overhyped crap. Take my advice and watch a good documentary about Oppenheimer.
@aharonwaldman6384
@aharonwaldman6384 10 месяцев назад
I agree that the first sex scene was just out of place and confusing but the 2nd one was supposed to show kitty's pov of it as oppinhiemer told the story of his affair to the board, I thought it added a lot showing kitty was very unhappy and angry at her husband yet still chose to stay with him and defend him which makes the scene where she is questioned even better
@Chi_Me
@Chi_Me 10 месяцев назад
I agree, the 2nd sex scene was a good way to depict how the investigation took away their privacy and waved their dirty laundry for the world to see. But the 1st one was not necessary
@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564
@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 10 месяцев назад
I did feel like the first was a bit gratuitous as well.
@TheMikster95
@TheMikster95 8 месяцев назад
I felt like it was completely out of place and distracting. An eye glance between Oppenheimer and his wife would’ve been enough
@jackyoungiii3770
@jackyoungiii3770 10 месяцев назад
The fact that this movie didn’t start nor stop with the Manhattan Project is what gives this movie it’s namesake. While the project is without doubt the best part of the movie, the movie is about OPPENHEIMER, not the project alone. I never felt lost throughout the movie and while I can agree that there’s some parts that are a bit padded out, the movie as a whole painted the picture it set out to paint. And what a masterful picture it was.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 10 месяцев назад
Exactly. If the movie was called "The Manhattan Project" then it would have been like a real life take on a Marvel movie where there is an ensemble cast with Oppenheimer in the commanding position, but not with him as the main focus, rather the project itself and all of the character dynamics being more or less equally valuable. But that's not what this movie is. It is Oppenheimer, and it starts and ends with him.
@davidnewton580
@davidnewton580 10 месяцев назад
I actually felt that Nolan did it right, all the way to end. The movie is about Oppenheimer, not the Trinity test or the Manhattan Project. His early college life prior to the Manhattan Project was necessary to understand the part of his life post Manhattan Project. The last part of the movie detailed how the government treated Oppenheimer during the anti-Communism era, especially given his relationships with known Communists during his early years. It showed what the government is capable of when it wants to railroad a citizen (hint, hint). I did feel that the nude and sex scenes could have been eliminated without detracting from the storyline or his love for Kitty and Jean. Cillian did a masterful job of playing Oppenheimer showing a range of emotion.
@thenoobyblock1208
@thenoobyblock1208 10 месяцев назад
I completely agree. The film is a biopic, intended to depict Oppenheimer's life, not just the 'entertaining' and 'intense' part of it. For me, as someone who was already quite familiar with Oppenheimer's life, I found the final parts of the film to be pretty damn good. RDJ's performance in that final hour of the movie was just incredible, and the ending was supremely good. This reviewer clearly likes action in his movies, but Nolan would have been doing Oppenheimer a disservice if he didn't fully explore his legacy and his 'fall from grace'. And even disregarding that, I felt the final hour was still very intense, perhaps not on the same scale as atomic detonation, but definitely on a personal level through Oppenheimer's eyes.
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 10 месяцев назад
I agree wholeheartedly with that
@like-wise9315
@like-wise9315 10 месяцев назад
@@thenoobyblock1208 No doubt the movie should have included his 'fall from grace' but there are many movies that depict this in a much more dramatic way rather than factual, he could have shown the downfall in a much more sequential manner after the bomb rather than switching and changing to future and past scenes, it didnt give the same satisfaction as other movies do.
@aeb_captain4857
@aeb_captain4857 10 месяцев назад
I would 100% agree with the nudity and sex scenes. I thought those were jarring and took away from the overall film. That was my only critique of the entire movie, but it was a major one for me
@CharveL88
@CharveL88 10 месяцев назад
@@aeb_captain4857 Fair take. I mostly agree, but thought the imagination of Oppie riding his g/f during the interview, once the relationship was revealed to his wife, was a pretty clever way of depicting the shock and jarring emotion of it to his wife, and how she might have visualized it in that moment. CD kind of nails it though that those scenes seemed a bit contrived and wooden (pardon the pun) like it was more there to impress other directors than to get a point across to the audience.
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins 10 месяцев назад
Fun Fact: For Oppenheimer, in order for the Black & White sections of the movie to be shot in the same quality as the rest of the film, Kodak developed the first ever B&W film stock for Imax.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 10 месяцев назад
Now that's a dedication to the craft. When you have to simply tell the makers of the tools "I need this tool you don't make because no one else had a need for it before."
@zooropa5722
@zooropa5722 10 месяцев назад
Not imax, 70mm. In interviews Nolan stated that they didn't shoot the b&w footage on imax but on newly developed 70mm.
@iamasmurf1122
@iamasmurf1122 10 месяцев назад
Bullshit
@TheMysteryDriver
@TheMysteryDriver 10 месяцев назад
IMAX is 70mm.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 10 месяцев назад
​@Sorain1 Big deal. Would you have noticed it if nobody had told you about it and did it actually make the film any better?
@fuyuk1r1ft8
@fuyuk1r1ft8 10 месяцев назад
That one gary oldman scene was impeccable, the haunting seriousness with which he told oppenheimer that nobody cared who built the bomb, only who dropped it was chilling. Also cillian murphy, man. What an actor
@TheApostleofRock
@TheApostleofRock 9 месяцев назад
That was Gary Oldman? Wtf and it literally took me like 30 min to realize Strauss was RDJr. Props to the makeup and costuming.
@itznukeey
@itznukeey 9 месяцев назад
​@@TheApostleofRock yeah Robert Downey Jr. was hard to recognize in the first few scenes lol
@fruzsimih7214
@fruzsimih7214 10 месяцев назад
I actually loved the last hour of the movie, it was gripping and exciting, and it was deeply satisfying to see Strauss having his comeuppance.
@carlosatausupa8429
@carlosatausupa8429 6 месяцев назад
GIve this man for Oscar. Robert Downey Jr/Lewiss Strauss/Iron Man.
@carlosatausupa8429
@carlosatausupa8429 6 месяцев назад
round 2:Joaquin Phoenix vs Robert Downey JR
@Toolness1
@Toolness1 10 месяцев назад
I've worked in various scientific labs for 23 years now and they definitely nailed how different/weird scientists can be. Brilliant but troubled, awkward, hard to connect to people. I was hoping for a little more about the building of the bomb and processing of the materials, but people have a good point that the movie isn't about the bomb.....it's about the man.
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 10 месяцев назад
Agreed 100% on part one and two of your comment. 🙂
@billdestroyerofworlds
@billdestroyerofworlds 10 месяцев назад
Well, if you think about it... the technical information on building the bomb continues to be a state secret. So I totally understood why they would go light on that.
@Red6er
@Red6er 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, if they got into the technical aspects it would be very interesting to me but I bet the studio people wouldn't let that happen, they would get bored.
@KendallGilbert
@KendallGilbert 10 месяцев назад
Of course it's about the bomb... nobody would know of his name otherwise... if it wasn't about the bomb they should have made a movie about Feynman instead, would have been more interesting
@Dar1usz
@Dar1usz 10 месяцев назад
Thats why is boring and Emily Blunt is silent trough 1st half of movie.
@rhomaioscomrade
@rhomaioscomrade 10 месяцев назад
The movie is called "Oppenheimer", not "Manhattan Project" or "Los Alamos" or "The Atomic Bomb" or whatever. The story understandably focuses on his life, his politics, his personal relationships, his interests, and yes, the falling out with the American government. The Manhattan project was undoubtedly a huge and defining part of his life, but it's not the only one. In the end, the movie is not just about pondering the consequences of the creation of the atomic bomb. It is about how people like Oppenheimer fall from grace by ambitious political adversaries for simply having unconventional political opinions and practices. The last hour is absolutely crucial in truly understanding who Oppenheimer was, and why his story is so tragic. It is also a critical examination of Cold War politics and the past sins of the US with regards to nuclear policy. Oppenheimer stands as a martyr figure (like the characters in the movie prominently claim) for those who stood for nuclear disarmament, but were bulldozed by the war hawks in Washington. As for the non-linear storytelling, while it's easy to dismiss as a "Christopher Nolan thing", it serves an important purpose imo. The life story of Oppenheimer runs on 3 axes: 1) Oppenheimer's political past 2) The Manhattan project 3) The security clearance hearings These function virtually independently, and focus on different aspects of what made Oppenheimer's life interesting. It would therefore indeed feel like a boring slog to examine these linearly like an encyclopedia. Nolan chose a more dynamic approach of engaging all 3 of those things at the same time, with each one's conclusion "clicking" with the right moment somewhere along on the other axes of the story. It works very well if you ask me, and it is a huge reason why some scenes work as well as they do (for example the ending). It might not be the main reason (I could even be misinterpreting Nolan's intentions), but that's how I perceived it, and it honestly made the experience that much better for me. As someone who knew Oppenheimer's life story before going into the theatre, the movie's approach was better than anything I could muster to tackle such a big and complicated topic.
@SImonDeLikaeble
@SImonDeLikaeble 10 месяцев назад
Well said, thanks.
@pimhuisman646
@pimhuisman646 10 месяцев назад
I liked the movie, but disagree on some points. First of all the start felt very messy and unconnected. The trial of "Straws" doesn't have to do so much with Oppenheimer's early life and research. It feels a bit like there is little to tell in this movie and we need some tricks to make it interesting, but Oppenheimer's story is already good as it is. Also when starting with Straus and ending with Straus it feels like it's the Straus movie. It felt like the vote was the big payoff and the talk at the pond an epilog. I don't like the black-white for the "future". It was interesting in "better call Saul", but here it is completely not needed.
@coolcat23
@coolcat23 10 месяцев назад
The movie should have been called "heiOpperen", as this would have reflected the story telling. The ending is impactful because Nolan finally lets go of the incessant mangling of the storylines. Before that, nothing lasts long enough to draw one in. I'm with @pimhuisman646; Oppenheimer's story was more than sufficiently interesting on its own. It did not need cutting up and meshing it together again to make it more interesting. Linear story telling need not be boring, it can still jump between different aspects of his life in interesting ways. Some non-linear storytelling can be powerful and can bring certain aspects of a story into focus, but AFAIC, Nolan went too far with "Oppenheimer". He did not achieve anything interesting with the non-linearity either, AFAIC, such as giving the viewer some advance information that the viewer can use to be concerned about when viewing parts earlier in the timeline. He relies on a "boom" in the end, instead of creating suspense in the style of Hitchcock.
@JO-qn8gy
@JO-qn8gy 10 месяцев назад
Some people say that the atomic bomb does not actually exist. Just more government psyops.
@mayanksharma3651
@mayanksharma3651 10 месяцев назад
​@@pimhuisman646nah maan, I'd say the movie was very unconventional. I mean i w9uld never have imagined someone would make an Oppenheimer movie in this way, but i absolutely loved every second of it, except the blast scene, honestly, Nolan should've went for CGI for that, cause the blast didn't look like an atomic bomb at all
@bonce5072
@bonce5072 10 месяцев назад
I have to disagree with the drinker on this one, I feel with biopics it’s hard to pace them correctly because you are fitting a man’s whole life into three hours and with a man like him 3 hours is nothing. I never found myself bored and I thought with the amount of characters that HAVE to be introduced they were fleshed out enough for me to care
@bradastra6111
@bradastra6111 10 месяцев назад
yea to many characters introduced i found myself a bit lost with all of those. i think the best approach to this would be the way chernobyl mini series did. condensing some of them into one.
@j.k.1239
@j.k.1239 10 месяцев назад
L drinker take.Oppenheimer was perfect.Story, Acting, Pacing, Score, Editing were all 10/10.Not a single miss.
@tonygreif4931
@tonygreif4931 10 месяцев назад
​@@j.k.1239Nah, 8.5/10
@aliensconfirmed3498
@aliensconfirmed3498 10 месяцев назад
I won't call it 10/10 as I like to rate movies on relative terms so a 10/10 is like one of the greatest ever which it doesn't look to me but if one has to make movie on Oppenheimer's life then it will not be easy to better this. Some directors in history will do that but not many. Personally only minor issues are how these guys are always talking in a dramatic manner.. I mean just because they are genius people doesn't mean they don't talk normally. And also the way new ideas are jumping instantly into their minds. Research is a slower process with many complexities but then you can't show that in a movie so it's not something I would really complain about.
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 9 месяцев назад
Except there should have been an intermission. Three hours is too long for the bladder.
@branditagirs8146
@branditagirs8146 10 месяцев назад
What resonated with me the most was the score... Such beautifully intense music, telling the story almost as well as the actors and storyline. Definitely made to watch in theaters to appreciate the gravity of each scene. The drumming tolls of feet on stadium seats, the relentless momentum of train noises backed by frantic violin. It was most strikingly beautiful the whole 3 hours.
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 10 месяцев назад
The score was incredibly powerful, complex, elegant, and also at times angry or delicate…if you listened carefully there were quite a few kazoos, jews harps, and aboriginal didgeridoos salt and peppered through out
@MrBallynally2
@MrBallynally2 6 месяцев назад
The constant sound scapes were a nuisance to me. The babbling speech also left me cold. This film has no heart. It is trying too heart and fails to move. No pulse. Hyped up beyond comprehension..
@hayles_
@hayles_ 10 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer is one of those movies that shouldn’t have warmth. The audience needed to feel the pressure, dread, guilt, awe, and heaviness to truly grasp the seriousness of the subject and the potential consequences. Nolan and the cast did a fantastic job in delivering all of those emotions while making the science and political backstabbing easy for the audience to follow 9.5/10
@johncra8982
@johncra8982 10 месяцев назад
honestly how do people watch this film and think it has no warmth 😂 did they walk out during all the scenes between Cillian Murphy and Josh Hartnett or David Krumholtz or Tom Conti, or Kitty's testimony, or Hill's testimony? wild 😂
@RandomAccessDreams
@RandomAccessDreams 10 месяцев назад
​@johncra8982 Seriously every scene between Cillian Murphy and Krumholtz exuded warmth between friends who have known each other for years.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 10 месяцев назад
you hit the nail on the head exactly. Shame that drinker didnt get it.
@Victimesty
@Victimesty 10 месяцев назад
That's a difference making a feelgood movie and giving character a little bit of emotional bond, placing him in the world you're trying to make.
@onastick2411
@onastick2411 10 месяцев назад
I think you'll find at the point of detonation, there was plenty of warmth.
@grant8431
@grant8431 10 месяцев назад
So glad Oppenheimer came out the same time as Barbie. It shows the stark contrast in the quality of films
@fy4b230
@fy4b230 10 месяцев назад
Why would you compare Oppenheimer and Barbie? 3 hour dialogue filled historical drama 2 hour comedy about dolls. Completely different films for completely different audiences. Love or hate either of them, comparing them would be like comparing pizza to stir fry. That’s why 80 million is great for this 3 hour movie and 155 million is great for the other. There’s movies out there for everyone. It’s not a culture war.
@FamiliarAnomaly
@FamiliarAnomaly 10 месяцев назад
@@fy4b230 "I don't like your comparison of art now let me tell you why you're wrong"
@darrenronard2087
@darrenronard2087 10 месяцев назад
@@fy4b230i would agree, except that there actually has been a fairly major marketing campaign to associate the two movies, and I’m at least partly convinced it was a conscious attempt to trivialize Oppenheimer, or at least make it seem like the mostly fake “issues” brought up in the Barbie movie, and the reprehensible solutions it offers, are just as serious as the actual historical drama of the other. I might be a little too paranoid, but I think there’s a pretty good chance that Nolan’s on some powerful people’s sh*tlist, since he doesn’t play ball with anyone and does things his own way, a trait that’s becoming more and more dangerous in today’s world.
@austincarlson9270
@austincarlson9270 10 месяцев назад
​@fy4b230 because each movie executed what they were trying to do much differently. Barbie executed it poorly whereas Oppenheimer did it well.
@donlee.4308
@donlee.4308 10 месяцев назад
you can easily tell people’s character based on the movie they watch.
@stephenfriedenthal8312
@stephenfriedenthal8312 10 месяцев назад
Just saw this last night and was beyond impressed. The Drinker is correct -- this is a complicated movie and requires the audience to pay attention and think. This is decidedly not a green screen, CGI, everything watered down so that even a child can follow story. We are introduced to a cast of intellectual giants in atomic physics: Bohr, Heisenberg, Teller, Feynman, Gödel, and so forth and not once -- not ONCE is the historical significance of these people discussed. Why? Because, for example, when Niels Bohr developed what every chemistry student now learns as the Bohr model of the atom, or Heisenberg postulated the "Heisenberg uncertainty principle", at that time it was all still very theoretical. Everyone will know Einstein and his role is remarkably small given that he gave birth to the entire field. Nor, do we see these giants explaining to each other principles that they would clear already understand (and not need to explain) for the sake of the audience to follow. A simpler movie would have had someone explain all of this as if to a child. ("...well, says Oppenhemir to Bohr, you know how a neutron which is the uncharged part of the nucleus will leave the atom and hit another uranium atom... I bet that could make a chain reaction for a bomb"... never happens in this film thank God) In another small scene Oppenheimer hears that the Germans are focused on using heavy water as a neutron moderator vs. graphite which the US was using at the Fermi lab which will clearly put them further behind. Again -- this is not even remotely explained in the typical Hollywood style of pandering to its audience. The impact of the German's decision is clear and a relatively small number of the audience will really understand its significance. The Trinity explosion was one of the most powerful movie scenes I may haver seen. There was no CGI. We see the bright flash and explosion first and then have to patiently wait... the tension building as we know that the blast wave must arrive at some point. And, when it does the full IMAX experience shakes you to your core. it is true there is a lot of exposition. But every time I thought maybe it was going a bit long there was a change of scene or new build up of tension to pull me back in. This film I Nolan's Magnum Opus. It is a movie that stays with you long after you have left the theatre. It is art and science and creativity and action that pull you in and requires you to become engaged with the story in a way that I don't believe I have ever, or perhaps will ever, see again.
@ServerYT
@ServerYT 9 месяцев назад
While I agree that the movie demands your undivided attention, and that this quality can be considered a flaw, I think that we desperately needed movies like that, where you are rewarded for paying attention, not because of a plot twist that was slightly hinted at throughout the movie so you can go "ah yeah that was a hint", but because the more you pay attention, the more this movie has to offer.
@TheMC1102
@TheMC1102 10 месяцев назад
Christopher Nolan is to movies what Hideo Kojima is to gaming, in both the best and the worst way possible.
@grosbeak6130
@grosbeak6130 10 месяцев назад
A nuanced observation. Bravo.
@TheMC1102
@TheMC1102 10 месяцев назад
@@grosbeak6130 Thank you.
@ianswift3521
@ianswift3521 10 месяцев назад
touch dirt.
@silvesterharlinton2621
@silvesterharlinton2621 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@GrumblingForesight
@GrumblingForesight 10 месяцев назад
What an apt comparison!
@shorttyalex8271
@shorttyalex8271 10 месяцев назад
As much as people feel the last hour of the film drags I think we can all agree the conversation between Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer was brilliant. And the last line to end the film was genuinely brilliant that cuts extremely deep
@CybrSlydr
@CybrSlydr 10 месяцев назад
I half expected Nolan to "Inception" us and leave us wondering what it was they said to each other.
@1stAmendmentorDie1776
@1stAmendmentorDie1776 10 месяцев назад
Two jews spresding lies so americans can make a bomb that israel now uses to gaslight the world into getting what they want. Why is israel the only nuclear energy nation that doesnt have to abide by the nuclear standards.
@justusP9101
@justusP9101 10 месяцев назад
@@CybrSlydri want to believe that the actual converstaion was just Oppenheimer telling a dumb joke to Albert and him being disappointed and just walking away
@FerallHog
@FerallHog 10 месяцев назад
All 3 hours of the film dragged. It was a snooze fest.
@justusP9101
@justusP9101 10 месяцев назад
@@FerallHog you can’t consentrate on anything longer than a tiktok video
@ardisgreenwater857
@ardisgreenwater857 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, the more I hear how "cold and clinical" was the character portrayal in this movie, the more I feel like I belong to a completely different race of a human being. To me the movie was exactly the opposite - full of character depth derived from context, from small details, and also from the "nolanesque" script structure itself, allowing the viewer to ponder on a scene, on a piece of dialogue from a new angle by linking it to something often seemingly unconnected. It helps you change your original understanding of a scene, just like Oppenheimer's understanding of the consequences of his project had to be verified with time.
@RocketPropelledWombat
@RocketPropelledWombat 6 месяцев назад
I thought the same, if anything the movie portrayed everything human; his brilliance, his faults, his obsession, passion, it's all happening in the back of his mind and he's like some passenger who's just along for the ride, ad-lib'ing in parts where he knows he fucked things up, reflecting on them, trying to figure out why he even did some of the things he did, ultimately doing them out of due care while being misunderstood by almost everyone along the way. Typical of a lot of INTJ types 😄 Either the coldest human or the warmest robot, I can never remember which.
@rodrigoparreira6135
@rodrigoparreira6135 10 месяцев назад
As a physicist, I’ve read a lot about Oppenheimer and his collaborators. The portrayal of Oppenheimer as a distant, cold and difficult to read, enigmatic character looks quite precise. He was well known as a very complex, arrogant and distant character, well aware of his brilliancy (his students used to call him “god”, and that was before the Manhattan project). So, I think the portrait designed by Christopher Nolan nailed it and very precisely let us, viewers, after a 3-hour exhibition, still quite perplexed with this character. Oppenheimer was a man full of contradictions, suffering a lot with them. And that’s something the movie shows us perfectly.
@torchieson4537
@torchieson4537 10 месяцев назад
The film is not called The Manhattan Project, it is not about the atomic bomb. It is called Oppenheimer for a reason. Some people can’t seem to understand this. His story does not end with the Trinity test, nor the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The last hour of the film is still very well paced, tying up all the threads set up in the hours preceding in the most Nolan-esque way possible and delivering one of the most existentially chilling and thought provoking endings of any film I have seen.
@mapl157
@mapl157 10 месяцев назад
If you rewatch the trailer tho they'd have you believe it was more about the atomic bomb...
@after_midnight9592
@after_midnight9592 10 месяцев назад
That last scene with Einstein was chilling, it punches you.
@deepprakash4841
@deepprakash4841 10 месяцев назад
This.
@Yeah0bviously
@Yeah0bviously 10 месяцев назад
Please kindly explain what is this delivery of "one of the most existentially chilling and thought provoking endings of any film I have seen." ?
@imallin971
@imallin971 10 месяцев назад
That's what the trailer led you to believe. It was misleading and very disappointing when you actually saw only 30 minutes of 'suspense' in the theater.
@KravMaga1973
@KravMaga1973 10 месяцев назад
Having read the book this is based on, I think the characterisation of Oppenheimer was spot on. He seemingly was a distinctly odd and emotionally distant person, and even his closest friends were kept at a distance. I think he would have come across as someone trying to intellectually understand how to be human. He was astonishingly naive in his association with folks on the fringes of American communism, mixed with a degree of intellectual arrogance I think.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 10 месяцев назад
So in other words he was Socially Awkward with a hint of anxeity
@KravMaga1973
@KravMaga1973 10 месяцев назад
@@m.c.martin I guess so, yes.
@Golems_wrath
@Golems_wrath 10 месяцев назад
Lol bs.
@rhomaioscomrade
@rhomaioscomrade 10 месяцев назад
I don't think he was that naive, but as you said he was very intellectually arrogant, which made him underestimate other people. As for his emotional distance, it's been speculated that he suffered from depressive episodes throughout his life, even very early on. The "mini-attempt" at poisoning his professor at Cambridge and the subsequent psychiatric care show he was never really all that mentally well.
@Aeroneus1
@Aeroneus1 10 месяцев назад
@@m.c.martinor in other words he was weird.
@marinaepley1840
@marinaepley1840 10 месяцев назад
After 3 hours of watching the movie I was like... wait, is it already over? I couldn't get enough. One of the best movies I've watched.
@mrrandom1265
@mrrandom1265 10 месяцев назад
I left after 2 hours because it was boring as fuck
@QuinnTheTailor
@QuinnTheTailor 9 месяцев назад
You couldn't get enough because you were expecting more. There was so many jumps and holes in the story that still needed to be explained. Yes i wanted the movie to also keep going... but disappointingly it ended with all its holes and unexplained jumps
@marinaepley1840
@marinaepley1840 9 месяцев назад
@@QuinnTheTailor I didn't think so. I enjoyed it a lot!
@JezaLoki
@JezaLoki 9 месяцев назад
It’s a testament to Matt Damon’s likeability and acting skills that his hard nosed, driven, no nonsense military man is the most human of all the characters.
@Castilloplus-bu7gs
@Castilloplus-bu7gs 10 месяцев назад
It's good to see Robert Downey Jr back in a serious role. He's bloody talented and it's because of his unbelievable performance in Iron Man (2008) that the entire MCU has been built. That's not only by chance.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 10 месяцев назад
I don't know, he was pretty talented in Tropic Thunder. Lets see anyone else pull off the role.
@docproc144
@docproc144 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. He was perfect casting for Tony Stark, and he’s obviously talented in comedic roles like in Tropic Thunder, but some of my favorite films of his have been his more serious ones like Zodiac and US Marshalls.
@MrX-zz2vk
@MrX-zz2vk 10 месяцев назад
​@@docproc144He was also really good in Chaplin.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad he's finally going out of Iron Man's shadow same as Chris Evans who is so busy these days and not always be the guy who played Captain America. On the other hand, I'm glad those two get out from MCU after we see how disastrous Phase 4 is.
@rsscotland6699
@rsscotland6699 10 месяцев назад
Actually like Tennat
@stopmostu
@stopmostu 10 месяцев назад
RDJ better get that Oscar for supporting actor. He was brilliant.
@BestOfAnimalss
@BestOfAnimalss 10 месяцев назад
Yes he was
@mohaamar4106
@mohaamar4106 10 месяцев назад
its between him and jason clarke, he stole every scene he was in.
@PoopaChallupa
@PoopaChallupa 10 месяцев назад
RDJ was born wrong. If he were born correct with enough melanin, he would probably win.
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S 10 месяцев назад
The music also deserves an Oscar !
@donragnar8430
@donragnar8430 10 месяцев назад
RDJ's five-head was a bit distracting
@RoyClendaniel
@RoyClendaniel 10 месяцев назад
I'm so glad we have movie makers like Nolan. He is not afraid to mke a complex movie devoid of fluff and stupid CGI. Not every try is going to be perfect, and not every film will be for everybody, but this is how great cinema is made.
@RoyClendaniel
@RoyClendaniel 8 месяцев назад
@@arturow2686 wasn't there for that as much. You could easily make a CGI bomb blast and the rest of the movie still suck. When Marvel trash is ubiquitous, movies with a thought process rule.
@MattNolanCustom
@MattNolanCustom 10 месяцев назад
Having been around brilliant scientists, engineers and philosophers, I can say that the emotionally distant and almost impenetrable nature of the characters is absolutely spot on.
@danielmacdonald9287
@danielmacdonald9287 10 месяцев назад
I don't see how being "overly intellectual" and having no "warmth or levity" is a bad thing. It's about Robert Oppenheimer.
@eusoucurioso39
@eusoucurioso39 10 месяцев назад
yes, i belive it's a case where Nolan's style fit's in perfectly due to character's nature
@jaco3394
@jaco3394 10 месяцев назад
I absolutely loved the film. The three hours flew by and I disagree that an audience will struggle with the complexity of it. In fact, I appreciate that Nolan respects the audience enough that he expects us to be able to follow the story without help. That's very rare right now, with most writers/directors feeling like they need to spoon-feed their audience everything. Edit: By the way, I love that people are actually putting their own takes of the film in the comment section and discussing why they disagree with some of Drinker's takes. It is so easy to create an echo chamber of 'Yes, we all agree with this content creator's every opinion' and I'm so happy that there's a community here that isn't that. Really great to see.
@hardcorelace7565
@hardcorelace7565 10 месяцев назад
​@@weed...5692I have to disagree about the explosion. The pure wall of sound that you are waiting for but somehow still don't expect is amazing, while the explosion itself looks really cool and the meaning/emotion/threat of the explosion also greatly adds to it.
@ThisKootenaylife
@ThisKootenaylife 10 месяцев назад
I do wholeheartedly agree with your opinion this movie doesn’t hand hold. I love that Nolan makes the audience work through the complicated ideas and feelings pre and post trinity. I also liked it showed the depth of how far the government went to get what they wanted and then to bury the very man that understood the consequences of the weapon he created. There was not going to be a sequel so all the angles needed to be fleshed out to give it the depth it required. Downey was outstanding I hated him so bad when you realize he was the turn. All the actors did their best not be themselves or other characters they’ve played. Drinker you say you’re tired of played out tropes and this movie aces that. The lack of Mary sues, flawed main characters and true depth that comes the slavish drive for details. I only noticed the run time because I arrived late and had to sit front row 😅.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
@Captain_Insano_nomercy 10 месяцев назад
I also find it very easy to follow. If you aren't on your phone or a child I think any adult should be able to follow this
@candykkhorsesngp925
@candykkhorsesngp925 10 месяцев назад
I agree, was one of the easiest 3 hours I’ve had in a cinema seat
@samf.s.7731
@samf.s.7731 10 месяцев назад
Oh a lot of what this movie had to say is ... lost on some people, not specifically naming Drinker. But Nolan is just that popular.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 10 месяцев назад
I think what Oppenheimer as a movie really portrays well, is the reality of events not being independent moments in time, but their context and consequences linger forever. Oppenheimer didn't just face the moral dilemma of coming to terms with his own creation. He had to face the fact that life moves on, new struggles will always come and take the spotlight regardless of what came before - and the fact that once things are set in motion, you can't hold on to what used to be the only thing of importance, even if it truly was that important to you. This is why I love the first and last thirds of the movie just as much as the climactic centerpiece of the actual production and usage of the a bomb program from testing to real life consequences. I like the fact that Nolan shows how even the most disturbing and thought provoking situations will ultimately be nothing more than temporary. Society moves on at an unfathomably disturbing pace, as do ideologies and ambition. I am so thankful that he actually covered the reality of Oppenheimer's legacy being more than just a moment in time. It was a foundation for everything that future ambition and fear would use as fuel. It showed how quickly life moves on, and I found myself enjoying the vast but always intellectual dialogue just as much as the spectacle and drama of the main center piece of Oppenheimer's creation and moral dilemmas. As with any Nolan movie, not all aspects are for everyone. But I will always regard my utmost respect for people like him who seek to make something magnificent that few of us absolutely love, rather than those who make something mediocre that a magnificent amount of people casually enjoy.
@maiamcniel4784
@maiamcniel4784 10 месяцев назад
Drinker, this film is a deep character study with a strong script, which recent Nolan films have been criticized for lacking. The third act is just as important than the first two because it’s the rise and fall of the a genius who became so consumed with guilt for vaporizing hundreds of thousands of people, he allowed the public and government to shame him as a punishment for his gifted genius. Keeping quiet instead of being more publicly outspoken. Remember, in the beginning he was a more upbeat scholar who spoke with positivity and charm, by the end he had been beaten down by so many around him, he found it slightly difficult to speak-up. Which was clearly Nolan’s driving factor with his film. To voice/bring Oppenheimer’s brilliance, faults, and unwarranted discrediting silence to light. Without the third act…it would be less about understanding the man and the impacting outlook it had on him post-WWII, and would be more about his achievement…which audiences have common sense about. Nolan made it apparent to show a celebration of WWII victory to most, while to Oppenheimer it was far more conflicting and would result in decades of controversy. Even before the testing we see scientists meet, questioning the real and unforeseen outcome of their work. Important reminders that through all of this, and despite the need for WWII victory, the long term aftermath might be at stake. As for the nude scenes…the first barely has nudity, until last two which is about them being fully exposed to their core.
@carlosvasquez9890
@carlosvasquez9890 10 месяцев назад
But Drinker, you indefatigable antropocentric connoisseur... "Two highly intelligent androids doing their best approximation of human behaviour"... is the BEST depiction of real life scientists couples there is. Nolan just nailed it.
@NetherlandsFirst
@NetherlandsFirst 10 месяцев назад
More like your preconceived notion of what scientists act like. Reality isn't some kind of episode of The Big Bang Theory, and scientists are not like lifeless androids who can barely understand other human beings and warmth. Nolan may be a good filmmaker, but please don't lose sight of reality or applaud a movie for featuring uninteresting social situations.
@edwardlenovo3240
@edwardlenovo3240 10 месяцев назад
@@NetherlandsFirst Based on historical accounts of Oppenheimer, he was quite odd and eccentric, and it was hard for people to really get in his head and figure out what his motives and thoughts were. The whole movie is based on the Prometheus biography of him, so maybe just maybe some of the way stuff was portrayed on film, is how it actually happened, or at least how people remember it.
@au1317
@au1317 10 месяцев назад
@@NetherlandsFirst I respect your opinion and actually sort of understand why you might feel that way, but the social situations in this movie are extremely interesting to me
@awlabrador
@awlabrador 10 месяцев назад
I’m surrounded by real-life scientists and scientist couples, and that characterization is laughably stereotypical and flat-out wrong. Outside of work, real-life scientists are among the most interesting people, have the broadest range of interests, and are, in fact, among the funniest and most clever conversationalists in real life.
@nav27v
@nav27v 10 месяцев назад
I think for Opp himself, any aloofness or robotic nature is an accurate depiction of the man. I think these choices were intentional. I don't think this is a movie that needed to fit a quota "human warmth" considering the very serious subject matter. And as far as the last hour goes, I'm a sucker for some good political drama. This movie isn't vastly better than Tenet, and one of Nolan's best. Anyways, art is subjective and it's meant to evoke these types of conversations.
@CobraTrainer
@CobraTrainer 10 месяцев назад
I really think it was a deliberate choice of Nolans that you did not really know how Oppenheimer felt about certain things at the end, because it's referenced several times throughout the movie that people got angry with Oppenheimer because he didnt state a clear opinion on what he believed in. Near the end of the hearing the interrigator totally goes off on Oppenheimer, wanting to know if he thought the making of the atomic bomb was morally justified. You clearly see Oppenheimer in distress and i think it's pretty clear Nolan wanted to depict Oppenheimer as morally grey and also to make the audience question what they themselves think about the making of the bomb.
@lolilollolilol7773
@lolilollolilol7773 10 месяцев назад
I don't remember how it arrived, but that line of questioning was also supposed to test Oppenheimer's loyalty to the United States, and showing a contradiction regarding his opposition to the development of the H bomb. Him answering "no, not justified" could have been interpreted as criticizing Truman's decision, and also was inconsistent with the fact that he led the Manhattan project to the very end. If he said yes, then his moral position to oppose the H bomb was inconsistent and hypocritical. Either way, it was a trick question targetted at putting him in front of his own moral contradictions.
@raum2811
@raum2811 10 месяцев назад
Another muddy moment in the screenplay, because the question is not about his feelings regarding the bomb, but an attempt to find a contradiction. Nolan's intention was something else, but it didn’t really work.
@pollatin1052
@pollatin1052 10 месяцев назад
​@@raum2811How so?
@jase276
@jase276 10 месяцев назад
Pretty sure everything screams that he was against it. What fueled him in the end was that if the US didn't make it, then the enemies would. Then what fueled him further was that the suits in office and the world wouldn't understand the devastating power they had until they saw it firsthand. Hell, the PTSd he had after its use is a pretty clear indication of his standing.
@mayanksharma3651
@mayanksharma3651 10 месяцев назад
I'd agree that yes, the first 2/3 of the movies mostly doesn't keep you emotionally ingested, except for Cillian's scene. That man can show hopelessness and desolation from his eyes alone. But i liked that, cause the first 2/3 was supposed to be analytical, you were supposed to look at it from that point of view. Once the bomb test occurs, you see the movie gradually shifting into an emotional nightmare as did Oppenheimer life after the explosions. And the last parts where Cillian cries...damn!!
@stormbringer7773
@stormbringer7773 10 месяцев назад
I think the best scene for me in this movie had to be the end where we see Oppenheimer talk to Albert Einstein about their old theory about the atomic bomb could potentially destroy the world and seeing Oppenheimer come to the conclusion that their theory came true after all. The imagery of all those nuclear warheads being fired in the sky and seeing the atmosphere light up to the point you see the Earth beginning to burn was one hell of a sight to see. It had me in awe.
@olkid
@olkid 10 месяцев назад
My dad & I came out of the cinema last night and both said "I've never had a cinematic experience like that before." It's an absolutely incredible film.
@joecantdance494
@joecantdance494 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely, easily the best cinematic experience I've had in decades
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 10 месяцев назад
I saw it today, I was drained and emotional when I walked out.
@EBMZEQUENZER
@EBMZEQUENZER 10 месяцев назад
aha .............
@Williamb612
@Williamb612 10 месяцев назад
Kind of agree, however Ace Ventura Pet Detective comes close
@bradastra6111
@bradastra6111 10 месяцев назад
@@aldunlop4622 drained and emotional? broaww its a nolan film, emotion isnt not his thing. if there is something is lack of it.
@Jonathan_Collins
@Jonathan_Collins 10 месяцев назад
Oppenheimer is one of the best character studies ever. It totally made up for it’s 3 hour playtime. What a fantastic movie.
@adamestrada7610
@adamestrada7610 10 месяцев назад
100%. Saw it last night and I'm still riveted by the performances, Nolan's nonlinear storytelling, dedication to historical accuracy, and the real world implications it has outside the theater.
@DirtyDawg
@DirtyDawg 10 месяцев назад
​@@Wonka59 you can have those qualities in a 2-hour movie. Sometimes less is more, or just go and make a mini-series.
@high.level.noob.
@high.level.noob. 10 месяцев назад
Bro this is the exact thing I commented on moist criticals review of Oppenheimer. Just scroll a little bit and you will find it.
@Chronz
@Chronz 10 месяцев назад
Pretty good piece of fiction
@Sauli_Lehtonen
@Sauli_Lehtonen 10 месяцев назад
​​@@Wonka59 just wished that it had more variety in suspension. It was almost completely the same level of agitation. The score was exhausting. The movie didn't breathe and it bored me quite hard toward the end. In retrospect though, the final scene did put it all in context and maybe I'd appreciate a rewatch more - without incorrect expectations. Just saying that my expectations were about a traditional movie. This was a risky movie. Edit: Also the bomb was disappointing to me, visually. But, maybe I just didn't get what they were going for with the visuals of it.
@oscars4608
@oscars4608 5 месяцев назад
Watched this in the cinema today with my dad. I was enthralled throughout as I had barely researched Oppenheimer beforehand. I loved the constant shift in chronology, and the performances of the actors involved was amazing. I think the tone and lack of jokes common in modern film was appropriate to the tone and reality of the story. Oppenheimer was a deeply conflicted man, and the movie does a great job of showing that.
@markperry9427
@markperry9427 10 месяцев назад
I was amazed when the movie finished it had gripped me totally from start to finish, three hours flying by. I feel the non sequencial form of storytelling was the main factor in that effect on me. Interesting you mentioned you did quite connect with the main character, for me that was the point, he was a very closed off man who struggled to relate to the world around him. The scene with him and Jean Tatlock just sitting naked talking to each other, set in that context is probably the most revealing (pun not intended) scene. Jean Tatlock was the only person he felt he could be totally honest and open with, the only human being he fully connected with, even more than Kitty his wife.
@TheHiddenHistoryChannel
@TheHiddenHistoryChannel 10 месяцев назад
It was magnificent. No one wants pointless bathos and Oppenheimer was oddly aloof in every interview you watch. He was a messed up genius and that’s what we got. He had a life - an important one - after the Trinity Test and it was important to carry that through. “They need us…” “What happens when they don’t?”
@JohnDoe-uc4uu
@JohnDoe-uc4uu 10 месяцев назад
He was a pos communist and the film didn't point that out nearly enough. They made him out like he was some freedom loving humanitarian. Meanwhile the people he funded were digging up dead nuns to mock their bodies
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 10 месяцев назад
Reminds one of Alan Turning ('Imitation Games')
@alexanderg1935
@alexanderg1935 10 месяцев назад
Well said.
@odysseusrex5908
@odysseusrex5908 10 месяцев назад
@@toolegittoquit_001 Turing.
@stevencaldwell7004
@stevencaldwell7004 10 месяцев назад
As a former naval nuclear engineer who had a crusty old master chief who served in the Cold War, I found this movie remarkable. And as someone who has been on the receiving end of the govt's abuses, I'd say many people are missing what they should take away from the last hour. It's a blatant and haunting reminder of the tactics the govt is using RIGHT now. Intentional or not, it's a wake up call. Reminds me of Oliver Stone and films like Platoon and JFK.
@raum2811
@raum2811 10 месяцев назад
Strong disagree.
@robertromero8692
@robertromero8692 10 месяцев назад
Comparing this film to Stone's JFK is NOT a good recommendation. JFK is chock full of lies, distortions, and half-truths, and Stone KNEW they were lies, distortions, and half-truths. He admitted the movie is a myth.
@DavidHRyall
@DavidHRyall 10 месяцев назад
@@raum2811 about which part? The government has been displaying their cancellation power in full force these past 3 years
@DavidHRyall
@DavidHRyall 10 месяцев назад
Completely agree about the tactics that are being used now. Hopefully the message gets through to the normies
@Golems_wrath
@Golems_wrath 10 месяцев назад
@@DavidHRyall lol bs. Governments not “canceling” anyone lol. Where’s your evidence? Drinker fans are stupid
@cruz1ale
@cruz1ale 10 месяцев назад
I found it surprisingly easy to watch. Yes, all of the Nolanistic overcomplications are still there, but it's so tightly and beautifully shot that there's never a dull moment. Despite the 3 hour runtime, you don't really have time to distance yourself from what you're seeing and try to understand every plot point and sequence of events - that comes after.
@drizer4real
@drizer4real 9 месяцев назад
I guess nobody every truly understood Oppenheimer so in that sense , him being aloof and distant is very much how the rest of the world saw him probably. He was a genius but confused, a womanizer but cold and distant, highly praised by all scientists around him but never got a Nobelprize. An enigma.
@andrej7942
@andrej7942 10 месяцев назад
The movie is called Oppenheimer, not first atomic bomb or Manhattan project. The movie is about him and it is brilliantly built. It is demanding but if you pay attention, you can follow it pretty easily.
@joshg1845
@joshg1845 10 месяцев назад
This movie is overwhelming and excellent. It is harrowing and "political" without being divisive or playing the identity politics game. The last time I left a theater that was as silent as this afterwards was American Sniper. This movie jumps to the top of the list of essential viewing for 21st century cinema, nuclear annihilation has been threatening our existence for decades and we as a society have fallen too silent to both this fact and the fact that these weapons are in the hands of vindictive and evil people. Nolan has outdone himself
@chakryand
@chakryand 10 месяцев назад
Why would a biopic about REAL people play into identity politics? It might not be 100% accurate but these are real people. You sound dumb to even bring that up when discussing the movie.
@daryltor7608
@daryltor7608 10 месяцев назад
Not to be rude or anything. So it’s the type of politics that upsets you.
@Grasslander
@Grasslander 10 месяцев назад
Kai Bird, co-author of the biography the movie is based on, wrote a NYT article claiming Oppenheimer lost his security clearance because of "xenophobes and witch hunters" who were the forerunners of the evil Donald Trump. (Of course.) Reality: Oppenheimer, who repeatedly called himself a "fellow traveler," was surrounded by communists, including his brother, his first girlfriend and wife. Soviet agents in the 1920s and 1930s included many the Left defended, such as Alger Hiss, Laurence Duggan, Lauchlin Currie and William Remington. Communists Klaus Fuchs and Ted Hall handed nuclear secrets to the Soviets, thereby threatening to destroy the whole world. No one ever makes a movie or otherwise celebrates Edward Teller, the inventor of the hydrogen bomb, who was right about the Soviet threat. Instead we get this movie about poor Oppenheimer.
@GreenClassified
@GreenClassified 10 месяцев назад
​@@daryltor7608strange question. Are you pretending that you havent noticed most movies nowadays have some overtly political, social message at its core?
@JR-zp3nw
@JR-zp3nw 10 месяцев назад
@@Grasslander"No one ever makes a movie or otherwise celebrates Edward Teller, the inventor of the hydrogen bomb" Maybe that can be a follow up? What other kind of bombs and their creators can Nolan make movies of?🤣
@silang8381
@silang8381 10 месяцев назад
3 hours flew by because Christopher Nolan only films excellent scripts and he has such amazing attention to detail.
@SsgtHolland
@SsgtHolland 10 месяцев назад
I loved every minute of it, especially as I saw it in Imax. The cinematography is Hoyte van Hoytema at his very best. It seems to me that Nolan intentionally kept Oppenheimer an enigma, very few people ever got close enough to know him to a certain degree, so neither should the audience. As I left the theater I overheard some people complaining about the length, but that they 'really liked the explosion'. As they mixed in with the pink dressed crowd leaving the Barbie film next door, I realized again how ballsy it is for Nolan to give us over 3 hours of real cinema.
@krispris1661
@krispris1661 10 месяцев назад
The explosion scene where it goes off in silence, just wow...I thought it was brilliant to have it in complete silence, watching the fire of destruction without grandiose fanfare...and then the shockwave hit and I nearly shit myself and remembered that the shockwave would take a few seconds to reach the characters. So whether it was artistic or just plain scientific, loved it eiher way
@adam872
@adam872 10 месяцев назад
Yeah that was fantastic wasn't it.
@timewarpdrive77
@timewarpdrive77 10 месяцев назад
Not only is it artistic, but I think it works logisitcally; considering the speed of light vs sound, (& etc).
@lolilollolilol7773
@lolilollolilol7773 10 месяцев назад
They were about 20 km away, so sound would have caught up a full minute after the blast. I'm pretty confident that's the duration of silence respected in the movie.
@Unknown-jt1jo
@Unknown-jt1jo 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, the whole scene around the Trinity Test was amazing. There was real suspense, even though we knew exactly how it would play out.
@mrstjohn420
@mrstjohn420 10 месяцев назад
I agree, it was spectacular with it being mostly silent, however it wasn’t completely silent. You could hear Oppenheimer breathing, and that was even more effective than it being entirely silent. I found the reactions of my fellow theater watchers made it even more immersive, everyone was completely silent and still, nobody eating popcorn, nobody talking or moving, just captivated, as if they were watching it happening in real time.
@Stoy981
@Stoy981 10 месяцев назад
I just got back an hour ago from seeing it w/ my 19 yo daughter. I felt it was a powerful film that, while long, firmly held my attention. My daughter felt it was long and was overwhelmed by the number of characters and complexity of events. She enjoyed it if for nothing else than the fantastic performances of the cast-she particularly enjoyed RDJ as “the villain”-but said it was a movie she was satisfied with seeing once. I am a hard core history nerd and a WWII buff so was familiar with the majority of the scientists, the history of the Manhattan Project, and the various contexts, politics, and policy debates. While all of Drinker’s points of criticisms are wholly valid, I either didn’t notice at the time or they didn’t bother me.
@lajeandom
@lajeandom 10 месяцев назад
I went see it with Wifey, and I am born French Canadian and she is born in Thaïland...we both had a very hard time understanding what they were saying. it's weird because I am bilingual but I don't know...maybe it was the sound of the room? The voices sounded very muffled, I had a difficult time discerning the words and their meanings through the whole movie. I think I will need to watch it again at home with subtitles. That being said, I was very happy to see this movie in all its glory in IMAX 5 perfs 70MM, it was very beautiful. The IMAX room was almost fully booked for the whole week, but we were lucky enough to find a spot not too close from the screen. It made me happy to see so many young people interested in seeing such a film. It's a big difference from the usual ''fast food'' movies that are coming out these days. Not saying that I don't enjoy them, but this is very much a movie that was made for movie lovers and history buffs.
@like-wise9315
@like-wise9315 10 месяцев назад
@@cicolas_nage It seems to be a theme with nolans movies, I think he does it to show the gravitas of the surroundings rather than the conversation itself, almost like putting you into the chaos of the situation, he did the same with Tenet (not that I like it I think its shit).
@Sandermaner
@Sandermaner 10 месяцев назад
You just perfectly described why I left during the 3rd act.
@clamum9648
@clamum9648 10 месяцев назад
@@lajeandom LMAO. Reminds me of Tenet. Look up "tenet pitch meeting" lololol when he plays the music over his talking, hahahaha oh man
@telepathicdragon
@telepathicdragon 10 месяцев назад
​@@lajeandom To build on your analogy, it was nice to put down the fast food and have a nice eloquent dinner once in a while. Even with its flaws it was overall very enjoyable and reminds me of the value of the cinema experience.
@luckysxm
@luckysxm 10 месяцев назад
I saw it three days ago and I'm thinking about it whenever I'm day dreaming. It sticks with me still. Only great movies do that to me. My 14 years old daughter caught me offguard today when she told me while walking in the street, out of nowhere, "woah, that Oppenheimer movie was really good, dad !". When we exited the theater we heard some stupids say that they fell asleep at half the movie...
@arturow2686
@arturow2686 8 месяцев назад
I was one of them, movie was pretty boring and had subtle MeSsAgE
@luckysxm
@luckysxm 8 месяцев назад
@@arturow2686 Really ? I didn't see a hint of the Message myself, maybe I was too hung up on what was going on... please explain to me what you saw.
@arturow2686
@arturow2686 8 месяцев назад
@@luckysxm First of all female characters in this movie where mentally broken. Cheating was tolerated (and had nothing Todo with the story) Communism ofc was part of the story but never questioned (on the other hand, if you have a movie about the Nazis, they are repeatedly insulted, shunned what so ever, and surely portrait as bad) here the main character has sympathy for those and it was not even once questioned. And if I remember right the only time the flags of the USA were shown when they figured away to bomb people partying about it. Surely the historical facts are bended, but I'm not getting into that.
@luckysxm
@luckysxm 8 месяцев назад
@@arturow2686 I read carefully what you just wrote 3 times in a row but still fail to see the message... Anyway, thanks for answering me I appreciate the time you took to explain your point of view. Maybe someone else can chime in and comment on that. Again, thanks.
@TheRealW.S.Foster
@TheRealW.S.Foster 10 месяцев назад
I went to go see Oppenheimer last night, and it was honestly pretty good. That last hour definitely makes the movie drag on for a lot longer than it needed to be, but I can see its value in that Nolan didn't want to forgo/glance over Oppenheimer's troubles post-Trinity & post-Nagasaki & Hiroshima. Not gonna lie though - I legit felt my heart racing in the moments leading up to the Gadget's detonation... and the explosion itself was nothing short of beautiful.
@farmchores4853
@farmchores4853 10 месяцев назад
I sincerely loved the last hour of the film. The whole movie is told from Oppenheimer’s point of view and the last hour of the film accurately conveyed the pain of having your life picked apart by strangers. Shockingly, that experience feels like a slog. The 2 hour version of the film would have been called The Manhattan Project. The last hour was critical for this to truly be a biopic.
@GeordieSwordsman
@GeordieSwordsman 10 месяцев назад
I agree but must insist that 'Trinity' would be a better title for the recut.
@kratosnl
@kratosnl 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, the third part was my favorite part. The fallout of the blast and the way it impacts everyone, from Oppenheimer to the goverment, was utterly facinating to me. You see everyones true colors.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy
@Captain_Insano_nomercy 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@bobsworth7082
@bobsworth7082 10 месяцев назад
Having seen it, I think the drinker slightly misses the mark. It’s not about the bomb. It’s about the person and how he deals with the aftermath of his creation. Overall an absolutely fantastic movie and the runtime and the negative slant towards the latter half shouldn’t put anyone off seeing this absolutely fantastic movie.
@JohnDoe-uc4uu
@JohnDoe-uc4uu 10 месяцев назад
Its about the propaganda to make him seem like he cared. Even though up until his death he said it was necessary to drop the bomb. Along with him thinking the hydrogen bomb was necessary. Up until the point it would put the US ahead of the soviets and to where he couldnt leak secrets to them.
@imallin971
@imallin971 10 месяцев назад
The advertisement misled me to believe it was about racing the Nazis
@HotShotsDynamo
@HotShotsDynamo 10 месяцев назад
@@imallin971the movie title was Oppenheimer… there was no misleading and trailers are always going to take the most “exciting” snippets of a film
@skatefarmerftw
@skatefarmerftw 10 месяцев назад
I actually think he is spot on, and find it refreshing to finally see a reviewer who isnt blindly in love with this move because its done by Nolan. I felt exactly as he did and the last hour felt so slow. Some of the complexities just feel to delibrately 'Nolan' like I am watching snippets of Interstellar for no reason. For me its the worst Nolan film to date, maybe second only to tenet.
@bozoslayer5858
@bozoslayer5858 10 месяцев назад
@@skatefarmerftwI disagree personally. And drinker says that he doesn’t even think the movie is bad. As with every movie he pointed out the flaws. But if u understand the history or significance of the life of Oppenheimer and what influence his creations have on how we live our lives or heck, even just watch it a second time. Your opinion might change
@Rocky-rs8tw
@Rocky-rs8tw 10 месяцев назад
Explosive indeed, This movie really was a bombshell, and went absolutely nuclear at the box office, it really went out with a bang near the end. Such a blast to watch I really hope we get more movies that blow us away this year.
@kjobbengaming
@kjobbengaming 10 месяцев назад
I totally agree on the Trinity detonation scene. It has to be one of my favorite scenes in a movie ever. My heart was racing throughout.
@matt291
@matt291 10 месяцев назад
I think it was a deliberate choice. Teller called Openheimer an "American Sphinx". By the end of the film we know almost every intimate detail about Openheimer and his work but are no closer to understanding the man. Absolutely pitch perfect in my mind. Also if they humanized these characters too much critics would likely attack the film for "glorifying" mass murder.
@trinaq
@trinaq 10 месяцев назад
It's truly a testament to Christopher Nolan's immense directing talent that he created a three hour film mostly composed of dialogue, and managed to make it compelling throughout. I'm happy that I got to experience it on the big screen.
@balsham137
@balsham137 10 месяцев назад
Wasn't that compelling. Personally believe Nolan could have done way more. The dialogue wasn't that engaging. Bored me to tears at one stage
@Skrenja
@Skrenja 10 месяцев назад
It wasn't complelling, though. It was legitimately one of the most boring films I've ever watched.
@Jus7aguy
@Jus7aguy 10 месяцев назад
​@@balsham137you cry easy.
@balsham137
@balsham137 10 месяцев назад
@@Jus7aguy you're the one crying over my opinion
@bacht4799
@bacht4799 10 месяцев назад
I always thinking about Martin Scorsese in that regard.. because Mr Scorsese has said he cares more about story and characters then plot.. where with Nolan is the opposite he cares more about the plot then those other things.. or something like that… 😅
@johahaneenee
@johahaneenee 9 месяцев назад
My husband, Arch Crawford, met Dr. Oppenheimer when he was a physics student at the Univ. of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC in 1961 and visiting speaker, Dr. O., spoke with a hand-full of students standing in front of the physics building for 20-30 minutes in the afternoon. That evening he spoke with a couple of hundred, including the public and the press.
@VIP-ry6vv
@VIP-ry6vv 10 месяцев назад
I love that everyone is thin, gaunt, malnourished. A movie of ghosts about ghosts.
@n67088
@n67088 10 месяцев назад
I understand the criticism of the film, and I would certainly have found a two-hour version more enjoyable, but the character development and the fall from prestige in the last hour of the movie provided us with a fuller narrative. I feel like this is on of the best of Nolan films we will ever get, and he is one of the few directors with the clout to deliver this bold vision, while most other films are pandering to our lowest version.
@panajotov
@panajotov 10 месяцев назад
I felt as if the last hour was necessary for wrapping up the story and making the full circle, swapping between black and white and colourful scenes. Comparing the two stories, the two characters, the two *trials*, made the movie even better.
@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564
@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 10 месяцев назад
I couldn't take one minute out of the film to make it shorter. Yes, it's long, but it's a biopic and it goes way beyond just the bomb, and there'd be something missing without the fall from grace and the backstabbings, the coming to terms with age, the consequences of his actions.
@CoulierCuts
@CoulierCuts 10 месяцев назад
How on earth would you cut out an HOUR of Oppenheimer and still tell a coherent story while wrapping everything up? 3 hours was perfect and it was paced very well imo
@SkiLLAGEx94
@SkiLLAGEx94 10 месяцев назад
​@maiqtyson6693 the critical drinker clearly has a short attention span from all the alcohol he's consumed 😂, i mean after the explosion, i was actuallu saying to myself "that isn't the end yet is it" then when it carried on with the trial, i was like thank god.
@ivaerz4977
@ivaerz4977 10 месяцев назад
I agree with Critical on this one some scenes felt it belong in a Netflix documentary. I think Nolan is best when he does intense action like that opening scene from dark knight and that fight scene in tenet but when he goes into drama it gets boring. I think Nolan should focus more on thrill and action instead of documentaries
@RasmusRosenkrantz
@RasmusRosenkrantz 10 месяцев назад
A bit disappointed you didn't mention the score by Ludwig Göransson. That was one of the key elements that elevated the movie for me. It's so haunting and beautiful that when I listened to it isolated after watching the movie it pretty much amplified all the emotions I got while watching. The score basically puts you inside the head of Oppenheimer depicting all his passion, regret and pain in an elegant and heartfelt manner.
@yetinate8014
@yetinate8014 10 месяцев назад
I loved the little details in the score, for example; the sound of a geiger counter slowly creeping into the score the closer they were to completing the trinity test.
@Ali007572
@Ali007572 10 месяцев назад
Imho it was really overdone, especially in the beginning and in the more objectively boring part - the third act = when it was especially so loud like it was done purposefully so that Nolan could do bone chilling court drama even more dramatized, even though it wasn't bone chilling in the first place. I hope that Zimmer returns, especially his score mixed with Nolan could get the dialogue linger more, with Oppie it was so rapid and there wasn't much time so it could settle and move normally forward, there was so much pushed into the first half, it almost felt like I was bombarded with everything for the sake so I wouldn't fell asleep.
@RasmusRosenkrantz
@RasmusRosenkrantz 10 месяцев назад
@@Ali007572 I think the loudness is probably more due to the IMAX and sound mixing of the film. If you listen to the score isolated you will hear that it's actually much more subtle and elegant. Many of the tracks are understated and melodic but with a lot of emotion
@Ali007572
@Ali007572 10 месяцев назад
@@RasmusRosenkrantz The only emotion that it got from me was the constant state of something starting and never really moving forward, it was like: scene - dialogue - loud background music - new characters - cut and again and again at a rapid pace without any breathing room. And given how Nolan doesn't do characters very well, the music didn't help him either in this movie, it felt sterile.
@weareart8519
@weareart8519 10 месяцев назад
You’re right. The movie is only decent without the score
@lukapetrovic8040
@lukapetrovic8040 10 месяцев назад
Seeing how "colorful" scenes were a representation of Oppenheimer's subjective experience - it makes sense that his relationships with women weren't relatable to an average human. He is a scientist after all, therefore, one could only imagine how different his social interactions were with other people, especially relationships with women. Emily Blunt's role as his wife was a perfect example of this. How she saw through RDJ's characters deception and plots against Oppenheimer. Yet, he couldn't see them. I don't mind that extra hour, I actually think it was essential to show us how Oppenheimer struggled, how others berated him and tried to discredit his integrity, all because of power and politics. And he just sat there and took it, because of the guilt he felt after the bombing. He felt like he deserved all the bad that came after it. The movie is just phenomenal and probably one of the best experiences I had in a cinema in a long, long time. 10/10
@adammauer6424
@adammauer6424 10 месяцев назад
Overall this movie just had a fantastic cast . There’s so many good actors in this movie with so many good performances it’s worth seeing just on that premise alone . The run time could of been shortened up for sure as drinker already explained either way I was fully invested the entire time
@Justan669
@Justan669 10 месяцев назад
As a bit of a history buff- this scratched an itch- but I understand how it could be tough for someone who didn’t have a decent understanding of the background could find it hard to follow- but you know what? I’m glad this movie was for me because I certainly appreciated this masterpiece for what it was.
@Grasslander
@Grasslander 10 месяцев назад
Kai Bird, co-author of the biography the movie is based on, wrote a NYT article claiming Oppenheimer lost his security clearance because of "xenophobes and witch hunters" who were the forerunners of the evil Donald Trump. (Of course.) Reality: Oppenheimer, who repeatedly called himself a "fellow traveler," was surrounded by communists, including his brother, his first girlfriend and wife. Soviet agents in the 1920s and 1930s included many the Left defended, such as Alger Hiss, Laurence Duggan, Lauchlin Currie and William Remington. Communists Klaus Fuchs and Ted Hall handed nuclear secrets to the Soviets, thereby threatening to destroy the whole world. No one ever makes a movie or otherwise celebrates Edward Teller, the inventor of the hydrogen bomb, who was right about the Soviet threat. Instead we get this movie about poor Oppenheimer.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 10 месяцев назад
​​@@Grasslander Thats because nobody knows Teller, the first and only nuke drops are legendary and modern myths, and because you need a nuke to set off an H-bomb anyway.
@JohnDoe-uc4uu
@JohnDoe-uc4uu 10 месяцев назад
Any real history buff would see it for the communist propaganda it is
@1994CPK
@1994CPK 10 месяцев назад
Teller was a real american loyalist and hated communism. Thus no movie ever about him.
@JohnDoe-uc4uu
@JohnDoe-uc4uu 10 месяцев назад
@@1994CPK exactly, the movie tried to demonize him for being an honest man
@Iamwrongbut
@Iamwrongbut 10 месяцев назад
Honestly the last hour of the film was one of my favorite parts. If the film only featured the Manhattan project section if would’ve come off so empty and left us with so few questions besides the consequences of our actions. Parts 1 and 3 (before/after Manhattan) show the political dynamics that surrounded his life and make you reflect on so many additional things besides just winning a war or inventing a weapon.
@Grasslander
@Grasslander 10 месяцев назад
Kai Bird, co-author of the biography the movie is based on, wrote a NYT article claiming Oppenheimer lost his security clearance because of "xenophobes and witch hunters" who were the forerunners of the evil Donald Trump. (Of course.) Reality: Oppenheimer, who repeatedly called himself a "fellow traveler," was surrounded by communists, including his brother, his first girlfriend and wife. Soviet agents in the 1920s and 1930s included many the Left defended, such as Alger Hiss, Laurence Duggan, Lauchlin Currie and William Remington. Communists Klaus Fuchs and Ted Hall handed nuclear secrets to the Soviets, thereby threatening to destroy the whole world. No one ever makes a movie or otherwise celebrates Edward Teller, the inventor of the hydrogen bomb, who was right about the Soviet threat. Instead we get this movie about poor Oppenheimer.
@Iamwrongbut
@Iamwrongbut 10 месяцев назад
@@Grasslander wait, you know more about Oppenheimer than the man who both researched his life for 25 years and wrote a Pulitzer Prize winning biography about him? Hahahahahahaha shut up
@rfcfanj7911
@rfcfanj7911 10 месяцев назад
Yeah the movies called Oppenheimer not the Manhattan project. It’s about the person not the experiment and a large part of him is being branded as a communist.
@500dollarjapanesetoaster8
@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 10 месяцев назад
I found it to be a phenomenal film. I wasn't fidgety or wondering when it ends (whereas I couldn't sit thru LOTR movies). Oppenheimer was a flawed, complex man, and it came across as genuine. I think the couple interaction was more true to that era where people stay married despite issues. Blunt wasn't a perfect mom either. Thank God it wasn't a typical formulaic depiction of a relationship. It was a big story to tell and I'm glad he didn't cut it short. You can't feel anything for the betrayals if you didn't establish the backstory.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 10 месяцев назад
@@Grasslander It’s hard for most people to realize that a lot of people had flirtations with Communism & Stalin & were “Fellow Travelers” - The NYT covered up the Holodomor, Stalinist Purges & the Gulags & portrayed the USSR as a “Workers’ Paradise”, and it looked really good to Americans experiencing the Great Depression. A lot of people “wised up” when they found the NYT had lied to them for 15 years, and that the Soviet Union was a “Workers’ Hell” where even “Trusted Allies” & ”Friends” could be executed or sent to the Gulag on the whim of Josef Stalin! I knew one who didn’t & carried his “Communist Party Card” to his dying day. He even proudly showed it to me a couple of times.
@szpickij
@szpickij 10 месяцев назад
Nolan and Cillian did JRO right. He was aloof, he wasn't really known by anyone outside of the subset of super-stars sciencentists (Einstein, Fermi, Fuchs, & Faynmen) (Bohr didn't really know him but knew of him and his work in theoretical physics.
@eriknovak496
@eriknovak496 10 месяцев назад
I do think the final hour of the movie is what brings it all together, what propels it from "cool historical drama" to "must see commentary on life". The interactions with a monolithic system that uses Oppenheimer and then spits him back out, as commented on by Einstein in the movie, really solidifies the intractability of the US government, and how people are rarely as important as the institutions they are a part of. Finally, it marked the end of "scientists as prophets" period of American policy that I think helped propel it into superpower status in the first place
@ilovefish9458
@ilovefish9458 10 месяцев назад
I think Cillian Murphy steals the show but overall everyone did a fantastic job! I'm thrilled I saw this on the big screen! Love your content it gives me a reason to live!
@paultoc2657
@paultoc2657 10 месяцев назад
That’s incredibly sad if that’s the only reason
@LandofLight
@LandofLight 10 месяцев назад
a movie reviewer on youtube shouldnt be your reason to live :(
@reapercaster7799
@reapercaster7799 10 месяцев назад
Bro he was playing the main character, he is supposed to steal the show.
@tobybigham4196
@tobybigham4196 10 месяцев назад
@@LandofLight Expressions and analogies are truly wasted on the ignorant. But they make up for it with their thirst for attention!
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@tobybigham4196y’all really are crazy. Apparently he’s an ignorant fool now because he took an expression seriously.
@eszt3r5555
@eszt3r5555 10 месяцев назад
This might not be a perfect film, but I'm so happy that it stays true to history and doesn't race swap characters for a mOdErN aUdIeNcE
@ImSparky2002
@ImSparky2002 10 месяцев назад
Why would it? It's a historical biopic with people who we actually have videos and pictures for. This isn't Ancient Egypt, this is 20th Century America.
@celozzip
@celozzip 10 месяцев назад
you would never see hollywood cast a bunch of jews with blacks.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 10 месяцев назад
There are people complaining that Oppenheimer wasn’t portrayed here by a Jewish actor from the U. S. but not a lot…
@TimothyZhou0
@TimothyZhou0 10 месяцев назад
@@ImSparky2002 But we DO have pictures for ancient Egypt.
@ImSparky2002
@ImSparky2002 10 месяцев назад
@@TimothyZhou0 But not from a camera.
@stationtostation8311
@stationtostation8311 10 месяцев назад
Went into the cinema not knowing much at all about the history side of things but i was engaged and interested throughout. Got a bit confused with the black and white part so even though i just saw it, i already want to see it again to really have the film in its entirety. Brilliant performances by all the cast and i left the cinema deep in thought.
@abhishekranjan4321
@abhishekranjan4321 10 месяцев назад
Tenent of Christopher Nolan came in mid-covid and still earned more than other movies of that time. I think Christopher Nolans popularity has surpassed anyone in Hollywood today, he is the biggest filmmaker and celebrity on whose name people can fill the theatres. Imagin a 3 hour long historical drama made on a budget of 100 million earns 900 million from the box office without any superhero, or big franchise remake. It's just extraordinary, no race swaping, no feminist bullshit, no identity politics, just plain beautiful piece of art. In India Oppenhimer easily surpassed Barbie and became one of the most successful film of Hollywood released.
@jeanthemachine007
@jeanthemachine007 10 месяцев назад
That movie left me completely speechless. In some parts of the movie, it really felt like a horror movie, especially that cheering scene near the end. But truly, Cillian Murphy and the rest of the actors, the scoring, and the writing really made the movie tangibly intense.
@celozzip
@celozzip 10 месяцев назад
word salad
@bhaveshdas7819
@bhaveshdas7819 10 месяцев назад
That whole scene when he addresses a crowd full of people stomping their feet anticipating his speech was more horrifying than most horror movies I've watched
@mbargo06
@mbargo06 10 месяцев назад
It's refreshing to see Nolan continue to push his own form of cinema instead of dumbing it down for the current viewers. His films will be in high regard for decades to come.
@Dar1usz
@Dar1usz 10 месяцев назад
nah, he is on downhill since Interstellar, tenet had good reviews around 8but we all know tenet is solid 5/10 after watching it. Few steps back, Interstellar explained more about science than 3hrs long movie about creating atom bomb.
@andycarollsuarez
@andycarollsuarez 10 месяцев назад
@@Dar1usz It is a 3hr movie about Dr Robert Oppenheimer, not the creation of the atomic bomb. The movie's name is literally "Oppenheimer". Is it really that hard to understand?
@Gretchaninov
@Gretchaninov 10 месяцев назад
Spot on. Not enough people recognise this. His films are for posterity, you could say.
@bardoomguy
@bardoomguy 10 месяцев назад
Well, his best films are the most dumbed down ones. Nolan is someone who needs a producer to keep his bad ideas away. For example the idea of shooting at the real Dunkirk location and not using CGI soldiers. Houses that look like they haven't spent a second in a warzone and a beach that's almost empty. Ruins immersion.
@bearrett50kal17
@bearrett50kal17 10 месяцев назад
I hate the criticism of non-chronological story telling for not being accessible, it's really not that hard to follow along if it's done right, and as far as I've seen Nolan always does it right. My favorite Nolan movie is Momento which starts at the end and the beginning, and reaches the turning point of the story, chronologically the middle, at the end of the film. I get that some people don't want to engage with movies and just want something they can mindlessly enjoy. There's value in simple fun movies or simple action dramas, but there's also value in movies that engage the audience by making them have to think about what's happening on screen.
@j.d.schultzsr.9215
@j.d.schultzsr.9215 2 месяца назад
Although nearly three hours too long, "Oppenheimer" is one of Hollywoods BEST! It's right up there with "The Three Stooges Go Around the World in a Daze"!!
@Ulrican414
@Ulrican414 10 месяцев назад
I think the Drinker partook in one too many shots of toilet duck before watching this one.
@Cuffers93
@Cuffers93 10 месяцев назад
The very fact that a film like Barbie is somehow being positioned and marketed as going up against a film like Oppenheimer says an awful lot about how broken the state of our society has become.
@fred6907
@fred6907 10 месяцев назад
People willingly go to a garbage movie to be spoon fed feminist propaganda, and bring their kids along for the ride. Sneaky marketing team though, the cleverly hid the worst parts from the trailer. I've never seen such underlying man hating tones in a movie, ever.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 10 месяцев назад
No, it doesn’t. It’s “going against” cause it’s a joke, it came out the same day. And just cause people enjoy the barbie movie (which I guess they aren’t allowed to anymore because you didn’t like it) that means society is broken
@BigZ-19
@BigZ-19 10 месяцев назад
Bro they both movies , it’s never dat serious 😂😂 live yo life , why soo serious
@prot07ype87
@prot07ype87 10 месяцев назад
@@BigZ-19 And yet Barbie is a movie that took itself too seriously. Oh, the irony. 😂😂
@Ribulose15diphosphat
@Ribulose15diphosphat 10 месяцев назад
This is called counterprogramming. You position dratically different films against each other, so they don't drain each others demography. Oppenheimer (male-old-smart) and Barbie (femal-young-dumb) won't really compete, so you get more people into the cinema. The fact, that guys on reddit thought it would be a good idea, to watch both was unexpected however - but will of course lead to a massive sucess for both.
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676 4 месяца назад
Got this movie on 4K and watched for the second time. Enjoyed it much more than the first time. Similar to how I felt with Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, this is a densely layereyed masterpiece that will only grow in subsequent viewings for me. Best film of the year and easily Nolan’s best film since the Dark Knight.
@BloodyxProtest
@BloodyxProtest 10 месяцев назад
The drinker is the only person in the world who I would watch any movie he recommends without any hesitation, he just gets it...
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 10 месяцев назад
As Emily Blunt described it: "It's more than a movie. It's an experience." By Jove, she's right!
@FerallHog
@FerallHog 10 месяцев назад
A very BORING monotonous experience.
@Rembreiker_lychec9257
@Rembreiker_lychec9257 10 месяцев назад
Christopher Nolan is one of those last few directors that when he makes a film it often gets treated like a holiday is coming like Christmas came early... Each film he makes is a gift to movie lovers.
@junglemoose2164
@junglemoose2164 10 месяцев назад
His films are boring. Nolan is Scorsese for dumb people.
@ibn9000
@ibn9000 10 месяцев назад
Well, his last good film was Inception, after that, he's mostly missing
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 10 месяцев назад
Nah tenet was pretty ass cheeks
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 10 месяцев назад
​​@@ibn9000is last great film is Dunkirk ...Oh wait , it's actually Oppenheimer....Have a nice day 😊
@alexmartinez2889
@alexmartinez2889 10 месяцев назад
nah
@costinmicu7721
@costinmicu7721 10 месяцев назад
I appreciate the facts stated: that it's a long movie and it might be somewhat clinical in its storytelling. That being said...I was always on the edge of my seat and the non-linear story-telling as well as the editing always made it feel that something bigger was coming next. I never felt those hours, it was a rush from start to finish. The actors gave it their best, and I wish we had more Nolans. This is the kind of cinematic excess that we need some more of.
@izzy319th
@izzy319th 3 месяца назад
I didn't even finish it. I lasted maybe 5 min after the bomb dropped in Hiroshima, then I was out. There are elements of this film that worked, but even with all the characters it felt lifeless and cold. Matt Damon had the most warmth, and Gustaf Skarsgard (when he was on screen) had a humanity and depth that would have benefitted the film if he hadn't been relegated to a third-tier supporting character. In fact, the film would have benefitted greatly with half the cast size. Oppenheimer himself was 'sterile' to use your term, even though the description dump we get referring to his character was full of interesting traits; few of which we get to see. He's referred to as theatrical and a womanizer, but he's not charming or warm, and he's so subdued and lacking expressive passion that when these traits were claimed it felt false. His love interests also felt pointless, and Florence Pugh's character was the most pointless of all. Especially the highly gratuitous sex scenes. They just felt contrived and awkward. Florence is a good actress, but her character was a blip here and a blip there, and then she commits suicide and we're supposed to feel something, but I just didn't. Their relationship was nonsensical and jarring. Visually, this film had some great moments, but the characters and their dynamics just sucked all the enjoyment out of watching this.
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 10 месяцев назад
Having a legend like Gary Oldman playing Harry S Truman was incredible. I was shocked (in a good way). To see him.
@travelator3035
@travelator3035 10 месяцев назад
He played Churchill in the Darkest Hour where I saw Churchill than Gary Oldman. This guy portrayed two of the most significant leaders of the mid 20th century almost perfectly.
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 10 месяцев назад
I didn't even recognize him!
@astrangechannel6441
@astrangechannel6441 10 месяцев назад
I can definitely see Drinker’s critique, but I personally really enjoyed the last act of the film and think that it did actually add a lot to the story, mainly because it showed just how Oppenheimer lost all control of everything in his personal life and now that the soviets had the bomb, there was nothing that Oppenheimer could do to reverse what he did, as now more people knew how to create the bomb. For me, the last act was weirdly one of my favorite parts of the movie, if you’re willing to sit through it. And also the acting in the final act was great, especially Robert downy Jr, who nailed his part flawlessly. I have nothing against the drinker, this is actually I think the first time that I really disagree with him
@guyo9868
@guyo9868 10 месяцев назад
Agree with you 100%
@zeffmalchazeen3429
@zeffmalchazeen3429 10 месяцев назад
i think most viewers were there for the bomb. When it exploded, they did not care for the consequence. For me the Trinity test was just the start of the chain reaction
@violinmke
@violinmke 10 месяцев назад
It adds nuance to the movie and shows what Einstein eventually told him would happen.
@jpwright87
@jpwright87 10 месяцев назад
Same. You gotta bring your attention span, and I think more movies should require that.
@raum2811
@raum2811 10 месяцев назад
The last act is a footnote. Should have been written text in the end. The personal conflict between Oppenheimer and Strauss is to petty for the epicness of the rest of the film. It was also hardly consequential. Strauss not getting some Washington job is too insignificant to frame the film with it.
@chrissy.v
@chrissy.v 10 месяцев назад
Having just seen the movie, the only thing I can say is "I'm thrilled!". To me it was an amazing movie, and NOTHING less
@gunsandcars3648
@gunsandcars3648 10 месяцев назад
you had me at complex , intelligent , disjointed , only a few of us understand and appreciate his madness that we see as true expression that most knuckle draggers balk at.
@vlweb3d
@vlweb3d 10 месяцев назад
FINALLY !!! A serious intellectual movie. So tired of the horseshite that Hollywood is farting out.
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 10 месяцев назад
It's also pretty refreshing to see such a cast of actual good actors, talented people who have applied themselves to the craft. As opposed to the endless parade of pretty 20-something checkboxes we more often see. There's the claim they're real diverse, but they also seem kind of samey.
@ribtickle4143
@ribtickle4143 10 месяцев назад
LOL a biopic, so intellectual.
@vlweb3d
@vlweb3d 10 месяцев назад
@@ribtickle4143 Congrats. You just threw yourself out of the conversation. Trolls (with obvious troll accounts) are not allowed here. Who's laughing now? LOL
@ribtickle4143
@ribtickle4143 10 месяцев назад
@@vlweb3d Not sure what you mean; try an Kieslowski movie, maybe something by Bela Tarr; a Chris Nolan move is not an intellectual movie and it's extremely funny you think so.
@LittleYoki
@LittleYoki 10 месяцев назад
Maybe you should try making your own movie then. Yeah, make like a real intellectual movie and then we’ll go ahead and review it for ya.
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