Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness - It's A Bit Of A Mess 

It was really cool when America is told to urgently cover all the reflections in the room and she starts covering puddles but then stops to look really closely at a puddle.

Wanda : “I made mistakes and people were hurt” Doctor Strange : “I didn’t watch your Disney plus show”

Wasn't the entire third act of Strange's debut film about him willingly putting himself in a neverending death loop all for the sake of protecting reality from an eldritch god? That seems like the exact opposite of everything Wanda's been doing post-Endgame.

she took out the 2 male illmunatis without taking a single step, but the 2 female ones she has to fight... weird, isn't it ?

Wanda went full Abby in this movie. She straight up asks Reed Richards, "Is your wife still alive?" "Yes, she is." "Good. Then your children will have someone to raise them." Then she violently murders the guy. Am I, at any point forward, supposed to feel any sort of empathy for her? That's so fucking dark.

Wanda has the most inconsistent powers. She can warp reality, but a little cave in stops her in her tracks.

My biggest issue with the movie was the “Believe in yourself” ending and then trying to make it seem like whatever Wanda did wasn’t that bad and she “fixed it” in the end. She legit murdered several people in this movie. For no reason.

Basically the only reason the protagonist "won" is because Wanda DECIDED to give up.....forget Strange's powers, wisdom and abilities.

What makes me upset is how much they held back strange. Strange in infinity war in my opinion was the best strange we ever got. In infinity he turned a black hole into butterflys, summoned multiple copies of himself, and learned multiple possible paths that lead to their victory. But in here the only thing that was even close to that was when he was playing battle of the bands with himself. The rest was just him running and getting his butt tossed around.

I loved how they introduced reed richards as the smartest man in the universe then he immediately tells wanda how black bolt can kill her in a word instead of just letting black bolt kill her in a word.

Several times in Phase 4, the writers expect the audience to sympathize for characters that are morally corrupt. It is weird how consistently out of touch they are.

I like how she basically disintegrates the two men but then there has to be an actual fight for the women. I feel like they're trying to tell me something...

You are right. What's the point of bringing in talented directors into the MCU when the MCU directs themselves?

Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product.

Wanda : “I made mistakes and people were hurt” Also Wanda: proceeds to make the same mistakes over again

gotta love when movies push the anti capitalistic message, while also wanting to make as much money as possible off it

“They will never know what you’ve sacrificed for them Wanda.” -Monica Rambo It’s good to know that the MCU continues to pretend that Wanda did nothing wrong in WandaVision, which causes that line to become even more dreadful due to her actions throughout this film.

1:21 America 1:30 Puerto Rico 2:20 Nicaragua 3:22 Costa rica 3:38 Guatemala 4:25 Venezuela 5:17 Honduras 6:05 Bolivia 6:21 Peruvia 12:26 Colombia 13:02 Mexico Did I miss one?

I find it disappointing how Wanda is billed as having these mega reality altering powers but we only see them once in this movie (when she takes away that guy's mouth). The rest of the movie it's just her throwing red magic at everything.

To be fair. Wanda having vague powers has been a problem in comics too.

The fact that they just turned wanda into this genocidal monster because she misses her kids is so weird

I love it when heroes stand around as a villain is killing one of them, so polite for the heroes to wait their turn.

Wanda: "I made mistakes and people were hurt." Wanda's mind: "and I'll do it again"

Wanda:"im not a monster im a mother". I'm surprised they didn't make her say. "I'm not a monster im a person with the capacity of pregnancy"

Surprised you didn't point out how easily Wanda dispatched the male members of the Illuminati while the female ones got to actually fight.

For me, the most disappointing part was the defense of the Kharmitaj. Like we have wizards from every part of the country gathered up, and what magic do they use? Bows and Arrows apparently. And Strange was even shitting on Hawkeye in the previous scene, like did no one realise the irony? Imagine what sorts of cooler defenses and magic they could have employed to be used if needed… and especially Wong, the actual Sorcerer Supreme being treated like a ragdoll throughout the whole film, Strange can summon Hydras from his hands and Wong just… throws knives I guess.

I was screaming internally during the movie, "Just find her a reality where her kids have no Wanda, easy" I'm glad you had the same thought Mr. Drinker, thanks for the video as always

Wanda saying she doesn't hurt anyone and she's not a monster at the end had me ROLLING. Jesus who allowed that in the final cut?

Wanda: “I made Mistakes And People We’re Hurt.” Doctor Strange: “I didn’t watch your Disney Plus Show.”

My only issue with the film was the whole "Dr. Strange is the greatest multiverse threat" claim. I was hoping this would lead to some kind of epic encounter with a really powerful evil Strange. Instead, we get third-eye introvert Strange who gets impaled on a fence.

When you watch Doctor Strange fights from other films, and then watch him fight Wanda, it really comes off like he just forgets most of his abilities. Seriously, why was he nerfed so bad here?

I remember hearing that Olsen wanted this to be her last MCU film. I guessing that talk happened right before writing and Disney just said, "Sure, but your character's going out like a psycho." - I'm honestly afraid of how bad MCU films are going to get now before Disney realizes that they should have pulled the plug after Endgame and gone out on that high note

I've never really understood why some people defend Wanda so much. Like with WandaVision, they always use the excuse 'She was grieving' when she took an entire town hostage and defend her actions to the hilt. But in Hawkeye, where Clint is trying to atone for his mistakes and spend time with his family for Christmas, people say 'This is all your fault, just because you lost your family doesn't give you the right to go around murdering people. Others lost their family too!'. Couldn't the same argument apply? Is there something I'm missing?

My favourite part of the movie is when her two moms got sucked through the portal. For whatever reason that was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while and it made me almost choke on my popcorn.

So I'm not crazy. People have traveled through the multiverse before, but they need this girl to do it now for some reason. Also, given everything Wanda is shown to be capable of, I find it hard to believe dimension hoping is the one thing she can't do.

I had hope for a great Doctor Strange movie that focuses on Doctor Strange, and some cool complex and smart extra-dimensional villain - because that's his job. He gave me a Sherlock Holmes of the MCU-vibe, with all his books and artifacts, his thinking everything through and seriously trying to outwit extremely intelligent beings above human comprehension - but none of that happened here. This was just "running after delusional insane narcissistic antisocial magic woman". There was nothing smart in this movie, and that it even dared to try to make me sympathize with this deluded unempathetic wretch is insulting to boot.

America Chavez was the definition of a MacGuffin: 'an object, event, or character in a film or story that serves to set and keep the plot in motion despite usually lacking intrinsic importance.'

Dr Strange: Some archer with a mohawk won't be much help with interdimensional monsters. Also Dr Strange: Uses archers to defend Kamar-Taj against Wanda.

1:22 America 1:31 Puerto Rico 2:20 Nicaragua 3:22 Costa Rica 3:38 Guatemala 4:26 Venezuela 5:18 Honduras 6:06 Bolivia 6:22 Peru 6:42 Wanda Maximoff memorial tour 12:26 Colombia 13:03 Mexico

I still believe Agatha Harkness would have made a far more plausible, believable, and threatening villain than Wanda for this movie, especially given the writers clearly did not want to fully commit Wanda into a "villain" role.

2:37 - 2:51, because making a _strong female character_ want to bring her kids back to life is not as _problematic_ as seeing a woman pine after a man.

I'm starting to think the multiverse was a big mistake to bring into the MCU. Limitless possibilities are pretty insignificant in the long run considering we can only see one of those.

I learned that Chavez fears bees, had 2 moms that she inadvertently killed (?), punches hard, can open multiverse portals, and (of course) knew how to use her powers all along. That's about it. No real character development. She was basically a plot device.

Doctor Strange. He's almost a secondary character in his own movie. It's more about Wanda and Latina Americana than about him.

Charles: "If I had a penny for every time a redhead with uncontrollable godlike power killed me... I'd have two pennies. Which isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice."

Reed Richards: hands down genius level intellect, probably most brilliant and strategic mind in the whole Marvel lore Also Reed Richards: GO GO STRETCHY ARMS AND HOPE FOR THE BEST!

As someone who's read an America Chavez comic, trust me on this Drinker, I mean it: her having as little personality as possible is the absolute _best_ thing you can do for any movie she's in.

After WandaVision I thought they were going for a more anti-hero approach for Wanda as she doesn't act like a villain or hero (or vice versa: she acts a little bit like both). Some of the greatest characters in superhero writing are anti-heroes (Deadpool, Moon Knight in the comics, etc) and their complex/gray-area moralities just makes them that much more interesting. But then MoM happened and turned her into a villain who kills left and right but wait she's doing it for her kids so she's a "complex and sympathetic" villain! All that character development and for what? Why didn't you build on that, why make her another 1 dimensional character no one gives a rat's ass about?

I would say it felt like a children's show, but I distinctly remember episodes of teen titans and Ben 10 with more depth and a coherent story

If the “good book” give you anything you want, why didn’t Wanda just grab it when she had multiple opportunities and just give herself the power to travel the multiverse? Or use it to just give herself real kids?

The fact that "A Kevin Feige Production" was more prominent than "A Sam Raimi Film", points to where the issues mostly lie. I went into this hoping for a Raimi movie, but it felt like only about 10% of it carried his DNA.

Okay, the whole "Puerto Rico Chavez" bit had me laughing out loud, but I feel obligated to say that America is actually a name for females, at least in Mexico. The whole stars and stripes jacket was a bit on the nose, especially when there wasn't really any mention of patriotism or anything at all

My biggest issue is that you can have a villain with a faulty logic, but treat it as such. Not only is wandas logic, and methods, extremely faulty and immoral, but the world and its characters don’t treat it like that, they act like it’s justifiable when it’s not. We as an audience are being swayed to support multiple characters that we just don’t agree with. Friendly reminder that Civil War literally tackled this topic already

"I'm not a monster; I'm a mother" - the most offensive line of dialogue in all of cinema history. Anyone associated with this terrible travesty of a film should hang their heads in shame. Same problems as Wandavision times by infinity. Phase Four showrunners seem incapable of learning from their horrendous mistakes.

Missed plot opportunity: Take Strange to a universe that's perfect for him, including Christine wanting to be with him, maybe a universe where a version of Stephen Strange and Christine were married & had kids (but that version of Strange died) and have him renounce it willingly to go back, because he has to stop Wanda, save America & the twins. Have him mirror what Wanda had been through would've been one hell of a motivation... and one hell of a good reason for Wanda to scream at Strange that he's a hypocrite. Also, I don't understand why they wasted the few scenes they had with Christine for Strange to clearly show he's still deeply in love with her, but have Christine fart from the mouth, instead of giving a clear answer to a man she's, at the very least, still friends with. Why was it so hard for them having Christine tell Stephen that their lives were simply on different paths, that she couldn't be with him because she would have to put her entire life on hold just to wait for him like a Pomeranian waiting for its owner to come home and she didn't want to waste her potential like that? It happens: sometimes two people have feelings for one another, but it just can't work, so they move on... If they wanted Christine to not want Stephen in her life, anymore, because he had been too much of a selfish, arrogant jerk before, why have her invite him to the wedding? It would've have been so easy to have Strange just peek at the wedding from a café across the street, heart broken to watch Christine marry someone else and go with that. The Devil is in the details and there were tons of tiny details, like the exchanges with Christine, that just didn't work.

Got to love how they brought in their first Mexican hero and her only power is jumping borders

I noticed that when Wanda kills the Illuminati, Black Bolt and Reed Richards are killed outright with no legitimate effort to fight back. But Captain Carter and Captain Marvel put up a much better fight. That was bothersome.

It really bothered me that you find out Chavez's "origin" and then it's never really addressed again. Would have been interesting seeing Wanda and America traveling the multiverse together. One a child looking for her mother and a mother looking for her children. Would have made Wanda's turn more impactful for me while also getting to know America a bit more.

Wanda: Loses brother in Age of Ultron but does the right selfless thing in the end Also Wanda: Turns evil for imaginary children

One of the strangest things for me was how Professor X just died so easily. I though he was supposed to be the most powerful mind reading power dude around. What’s the point of Professor X if he’s getting bodied at his own power? And it’s not like he’s convincing anyone to stop their evil wrongdoings, so that doesn’t count either. And why is the ultimate team, the Illuminati, getting tossed into the garbage like a rotten tomato in the first place? That Illuminati scene made me question everything in this movie…like why is Dr. Strange was getting sidelined in his own movie? What is this, Scarlett Witch: Multiverse of Madness? And not to mention how ridiculous her reasons are for being a murderous psychopathic maniac and just how incredibly inconsistent and overpowered her powers are. It was extremely obvious how much plot armor the “main characters” had. She could instantly kill just about anyone who isn’t Dormammu or Dr. Doom and whoever else is around that power level. Like, here we have Black Bolt and Mr. Fantastic getting folded in 2 seconds, and then this random girl with a striped jacket is somehow escaping from Wanda every single time they meet, and beating her up using the ol’ one-two tactic at the end? The scaling of the MCU is absolutely insane and all over the place. Why is a random girl - who just showed up - using a Darkhold powered Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Scarlett Witch as a punching bag all of the sudden? There’s so many things wrong with this movie, but I’m going to leave it at that. Let’s just say that after I watched this movie, my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.

Well...problem is, Wanda is one of the most broken Marvel characters. Her magic IS way off the charts and has no real limits iirc (House of M being the best example), which is why her skills are like a child's toy abilities: she will just add more and more to fit the situation. That's a big problem for the people making the movie. But indeed, she's being mishandled badly. Same for Doctor Weird, who seems like he lost some braincells after Infinity War.

I feel like Doctor Strange should of had his own movie to focus more on him. And Multiverse of Madness would be the sequel to Wandavision like an Avengers level film so that way its kinda like House of M that it focuses more on Wanda against everyone. My main problem with the film was balancing out both of those two major characters and then throwing Chavez in there felt like a waste.

One thing I found confusing was how the alternate captain marvel was launched into a wall at high speeds, then came back without a scratch, but then she died when a statue fell on her.

I like how Drinkers intoxication level is noticeably different in every video depending on just how much he had to drink to get through it.

This felt like a Standalone Scarlett Witch Film more than a Doctor Strange sequel.

The fact that Wanda's power is undefined, and so she can do whatever the script requires her to do is a bit annoying.

I can only imagine Sam Raimi repeating in his head through the entire shoot, like a mantra, “Just get through this and they promised they’d fund another Evil Dead.”

If Wanda had the ability to chase America Chaves across the multiverse... then doesn't she already have the ability to travel across the multiverse? Why does she need America Chaves when she already has the power to chase her around the multiverse?

The fact that they still refuse to hold Wanda accountable for her actions is enough reason for me to avoid this film. It's utterly insane and borders on parody at this point, like the writers are doing it just to spite us now.

I've seen people defend Wanda's weak motivation of wanting her imaginary kids to be real, by comparing it to Kingpin's motivation in Into The Spider-verse, saying his was considered okay because "it's a man". The difference between them is that Kingpin's family was REAL. He went through the pain and suffering of losing real people. He wants to undo the end of someone real. Meanwhile Wanda just wants to live in her own "real-life" fanfiction of her imaginary children. Seems like a bit stronger of a motivation for Kingpin to me.

I was actually pleasantly surprised they made Wanda into a villain. After all her immoral actions in Wandavision with the attempts to make us sympathize with her, I was happy to see her portrayed as a ruthless villain here.

"You are the ones pointing guns at me" etc is actually the most realistic thing about real world villains - deny and reflect back even the most obvious accusations.

It’s funny how Di$ney pushes this message that almost everything is free in other universes, but they charge an arm & a leg to go their theme parks in real life. They also charge around a 500% markup on their food and drinks as well, which is 66% higher than a standard markup for food & drinks that places normally charge. Ya, no hypocrisy there, huh Di$ney?

Wanda has been a problem in the Avengers for 40 years. The same issues mentioned about this movie have been a longstanding issue in the comics. Her powers gone bad led led to M-Day when almost every mutant lost their powers. She has led to the destruction of the Avengers. Yet, she's always forgiven and allowed back into the fold.

A lot of reviewers seem to only be talking about the positives of this movie like Sam’s direction which I liked as well, but the laughably bad writing/story really drags what could have been a good movie down.

i got as far as chavez and strange jumping to a new universe. the stupid puke gag and making Dr.strange look goofy cause he "didn't think a different universe had different rules." could have been a fun scene bounced off of almost ANY OTHER CHARACTOR. but strange has not only handled similar shit before, but is like you pointed out, practically defined by his wisdom and foresight.

One thing that really annoyed me is when the alternate Earth's Avengers underestimated Wanda. Like, these guys beat Thanos on Titan, meaning their universe's Thanos never managed to assemble all the Infinity Stones. You'd think the people who accomplished that would never underestimate Wanda in a million fucking years, especially given how they're talking to our universe's Dr. Strange, who also defeated Thanos, and yet he thinks Wanda will kick his arse. That should be an immediate red flag that Wanda is a Thanos level (or even worse) threat who's about to walk through their front door, and they practically laugh in Strange's face when he tells them to take her seriously. Like no fucking wonder this universe's Strange used the Darkhold to try and defeat Thanos. Evidently everyone else besides maybe Professor X was completely fucking useless.

Imo the most out-of-character moment in this movie happened at the end: Wanda inexplicably accepted the consequences of her actions instead of just momentarily feeling bad about them like she normally would.

"Oh no, she's chasing us! Let's stop for 15 seconds for no reason...oh crap there she is!" Also why is she running at them in glass covered feet even though she can fly? "Shush! JUST CONSUME!!"-Disney

Thanos lowkey knew what he was doing. Had he wiped out wanda, the multiverse would genuinely have been better off. Half the population of one universe gone to inadvertently save several others.

Also, plot hole... in the first Strange movie, Mordo says that sling rings open portals that allow travel through the multiverse. Oops!

So you're telling me that the whole point of the movie: Doctor Strange protecting West Side Story Chavez from Wanda was just for Marvel to say she could squad wipe a team of Avengers? Really?

This movie has some great moments in it. The problem is, you have to watch the rest of the movie before and after those moments end.

Wanda: you gave the power stone to Thanos. Strange: Yeah... to win. It was the only way... literally. Wanda: So...

"Who the fuck wrote this shit?" Dude who wrote Loki. Explains everything. The standard of hollywood writing these days is the worst it has ever been, im sure of it.

My gripe is how at the end of Wandavision we hear her sons calling out to Wanda for help suggesting to me at least that they did in fact survive but are lost in the multiverse. Having Wanda trying to find her Earth 616 sons would have been a more palatable (and logical) plan which still would have allowed us to see Wanda be a chilling villain.

"this girl has the power to travel between universes! Anyone who gets control of her could take over the whole multiverse" I mean.... No. They could TRAVERSE the whole multiverse, but if they want to CONTROL it they'd need to fight an entire universe every time and conquer all of that. A task so enormous Thanos with his massive and powerful army had to find the infinity stones to pull it off. Strange can traverse the multiverse too, a fudged memory spell almost screwed the multiverse up in fact, so why aren't they after HIM instead?

The gay mothers played absolutely no part except showing the audience: "see? we're so progressive we have gay parents" honestly i'm just tired of this

Drinker.....I've been on Marvel since Ironman 1 and I have to agree with your analysis of the now" Marvel Formula" that is stifling the directors. I would have LOVED to see a true Sam Raimi rated R Doctor Strange.

The whole idea of "only one in the multiverse" really breaks down when people from the multiverse start interacting with it. Timelines will diverge as soon as someone gets it.

One of the first things that I thought of when they had America's backstory scene with her two moms was: That's great... *now lets see the chinese version*

I find it pretty interesting that when Wanda finds Dr Strange in the alternate dimension, she immediately kills both of the men with ease, and yet somehow struggles to fight the two women, one of them significantly less powerful (Captain Britain, who has much less options) than the two men. I wonder if they’re trying to tell us something…?

I never saw Wandavision but that “you’re the one with the guns, director” line to a man trying to save a town full of people from a monster with super powers you just showed makes me so glad I didn’t ever check it out…

When I saw that a f*cking bee is what caused America to kill her parents, I literally LOL’ed in the theater. It was hard to take the movie seriously after that. You might even say that it stung 🐝

They had a really bad explaination why Wanda wanted America's powers instead of being content with being sent into another universe by her. She said for security, in case her kids ever got sick and she needed a cure from the multiverse. It was super far fetched.

I realize this is endemic to action movies in general, but I feel obliged to point out that America's punch on Wanda has some of the worst form I've seen. As in she absolutely would have broken her own hand had no superpowers been involved. It's not just the writing, but the choreography that's hitting the bottom of the barrel.

Ever since his first solo movie and Infinity War (hell, even his cameo in Ragnarok!), Dr. Strange's character has done a complete 180. This movie and No Way Home basically wouldn't happen if he was still the Dr. Strange from his first couple of appearances.

The writer for this mess is the same one who wrote Loki, why is anyone surprised that hes done more damage to these characters and the entire MCU. Just once for the sake of diversity could Disney hire a writer with talent for a change!

I said it as soon as I walked out of the theater..."That was literally WandaVision 2". I want Dr. Strange from the first movie back.

Wanda's disappearance was the best part about Thanos' snap. "Mexico Chavez" 🤣🤣🤣