"Nobel invented Dynamit" is a dumb line. Nobel was unhappy with the fact that his invention was being used for wars. That is why he has established the Nonel Prize for inventions that serve the benefit of humanity. Nobel would not have given himself a Nobel Prize.
For a 3 hour movie, the edit down on this was really good, guys. Still gives me chills. That sonic boom in the theater, I felt it again just hearing it again here. So good.
@@sschicken2333I heard it was fucking incredible in IMAX, sadly there was no IMAX open in Sydney when it released there, but gonna make it up and watch DUNE Part 2 in IMAX when it comes out.
RDJ went from portraying a charming narcissist who was redeemable to an absolute raging egomaniac who thought that two of the greatest scientific minds on the planet would be making HIM the subject of their conversation when they got together. and 43:08, can't believe the woman whose flesh was peeling off was actually Nolan's daughter.
To be fair, RDJ's character was a bit more complicated than how he was depicted here. He actually did a lot of good things including helping refugees and starting the atoms for peace initiative.
@@jayburn00 yeah, I agree, but I meant his portrayal in the movie. I had seen snippets of RDJ talking about Strauss and while he makes it clear that he is an antagonist in this story, he always mentions that he is a very complicated man.
@@jayburn00 On the contrary, I think RDJ did a pretty solid job humanizing Strauss, because the film also underplays just how much Strauss stacked the deck against Oppenheimer in the hearings, including authorizing illegal wiretaps against him and his lawyer and then sharing those wiretaps with Roger Robb.
That ending scene is so damn effective. Cillian Murphy portrayed a million emotions with his eyes while doing absolutely nothing. That stare alone should get him an Oscar.
There's another movie where Cillian Murphy portrayed a million emotions with his eyes while doing absolutely nothing. It was called sunshine and it's heavily overlooked.
I don't know why, but one of my favourite scene in the movie is when Oppenheimer is teaching is first class in Berkley and you see it grow and grow. The concept of literally bringing to life a field of studies to an university is crazy to think about...what would be physics without quantum mechanics today ? Seeing it evolve in your class must be exciting !!
One of my favorite scene in the entire movie is the very beginning, when he’s just staring at the rain drops in a puddle but it’s showing what he’s thinking about.
@@chrischika7026The irony of this comment is palpable... Fix your own grammer before correcting others, and maybe people would think you're educated without you needing to point out that you went to a University.
1:05:51 Interesting fact: The line about “honeymoon” in Kyoto was actually true and a last minute improvisation by Nolan and the actor. Here’s the full backstory from a Christopher Nolan interview with Insider magazine…… Christopher Nolan has said that the most chilling line in "Oppenheimer" was actually a last-minute addition suggested to him on the day of filming. While Nolan penned the entire script for the epic three-hour movie alone, he revealed in an interview with The New York Times that there was one small improvised moment from a cast member that was too good to leave out of the final cut. The Academy Award-nominated director said that James Remar came up with the nauseating moment in which his character, Henry L. Stimson, says that they should strike Kyoto off a list of possible bombing locations in Japan because it's a "beautiful" city where he and his wife honeymooned. Nolan recalled that Remar "kept talking to me about how he learned that Stimson and his wife had honeymooned in Kyoto" after doing his own research into the then-Secretary of War. Remar explained to him "that was one of the reasons that Stimson took Kyoto off the list to be bombed," said Nolan. Nolan had initially written Stimson "crossing the city off the list because of its cultural significance," but the filmmaker told Remar to "just add" the additional line about honeymooning in Kyoto.
@@ICanEatWaterit is an eerie line, but I think you’re missing the point. The reason Kyoto was off, like why Tokyo and many others, was because of the importance to Japan. The beautiful-ness was a BTW moment. It’s a bit off to say it’s because of a honeymoon, I’m sure if a general had a beautiful honeymoon in Hiroshima or any other important military target they’ll still keep it on the list.
They portrayed his PTSD, and his realization of what he has done so fricken well. I actually got emotional. The scene where he sees the repercussions if it was dropped on that room
I thought you might be interested to know that, in December, 2022, the US Secretary of Energy nullified the decision of the security hearing and posthumously reinstated Oppenheimer's security clearance. I know it doesn't do much good now that Oppenheimer's been dead for 56 years, but at least justice was finally served.
That's such a shame. They tried to dent his legacy and he died knowing that they succeeded in doing so only to finally get justice in a time when it doesn't even matter
@@MyMainMan90 I think it does still matter. I mean, Oppenheimer isn't alive to appreciate the victory, but future generations will know that he was vindicated. Also, in the long run, I'd say the security hearings were more detrimental to those who arranged it. Strauss was denied the cabinet appointment, and Borden's career and reputation suffered as a result of his role in Oppenheimer's downfall.
@@ZukoHalliwell Also, they all got nothing and now Oppy has his clearance back in spirit. And it's not like they're going to debate a dead man when they're likely dead too. So all that effort was for nothing. It may not necessarily be a clean victory for Oppy, but it's removing the victory from Strauss and making him into an example, that's for sure. -🖊️
I love the scene where you have Einstein handing Oppenheimer back his notes on the chain reaction saying "This is yours", not only because it's literally his property but because Einstein doesn't want to be involved in this sort of project.
The almost zero chance of setting the atmosphere on fire was based solely on the very first ever ignition of that kind. Once it was proven that it wouldn't happen, it then became zero. It wasnt a per explosion kind of thing
@@jp1170 why are you mad? Im saying that, no duh, it was the initial one. In terms of the conversación with oppenheimer and einstein, he believes it as a chain reaction, pandoras box open. Calm down, you have no enemies.
@@Totecc Then why comment in the first place? I was answering their post reaction question on the topic of atmospheric ignition. I gave them the information they were debating and the answer they were looking for so I dont know what you’re on about.
This movie did a great job in encapsulating this one part of WW2: the moral quandary. Most war movies are just suffering but you can identify and/or root for a side no matter which perspective is being shown, on both sides. But to see scientists, who never picked up a rifle, never rushed into battle, never had to be face to face with the enemy, feel the immense guilt over the devastation they have wrought was gripping.
That last scene was so good! The way Killian Murphy’s face looked was perfect and the way he said “I think we did” is haunting! Idk the right word for it but it was great, sad, and scary!
31:11 - I noticed in Jean’s death scene that in one shot she is being held under the water by someone, as a hand with a black glove emerges from the water, indicating that she was murdered. It’s hard to see, as I missed it at first. Brilliantly filmed to keep you questioning
I don’t think they are saying she was murdered. I feel like the scenes of her getting murdered and committing was from the perspective of Oppenheimer. We are seeing what he imagines in his mind. This is supported by the choice to show her doing it herself AND someone murdering her. Because there was a different unknown chemical in her bloodstream Oppenheimer felt that murder could have happened, which would have been indirectly caused by his presence in her life. Or she just committed which is just as bad. Either way he had. Panic attack about it and those images of her were probably racing through his mind.
Also from reading the book the movie was based off of, It was made clear that Jean's cause of actual death was never confirmed or determined. She very well could have un-alived herself just as much as she was murdered as she was too close to Robert as a communist. And as you mentioned the uncertainty probably always ate away at Robert's conscious as well. @@Jack7.
@@Jack7. That's also my interpretation. Plus: it may also be that Oppenheimer is imagining the gloved hands to be his own, he feels that he is responsible for her death.
19:18 Everybody always assumes that. Which I think Ludwig Goransson should take as a huge compliment because the score is excellent. If it doesn't win best original score @ the Oscars there is something wrong.
this is the best movie of the year by far and perhaps the best new film i’ve seen in years, it floored me and left me speechless, forcing me to watch it twice in the theaters, which I never do! WE SHALL NEVER SEE CHRIS NOLAN’s like again! so glad they react to it!
The apple incident did indeed happen yet it played out extremely differently. so he did poison the teacher’s apple but it wasn’t something deathly and would’ve just made the teacher sick
The best way to describe this movie is that I was entranced for 3 hours. I watched it with a friend who had seen it before at his house and normally we comment a lot: I said maybe 3-4 sentences during the 3 hours and he just let me experience it.
I loved this movie. I saw it on opening day with a packed IMAX theater in 98 degree heat. So hot outside and hot inside but no one…no one, moved for 3 hours. Riveting film. Just riveting
I drove almost 6 hours to see this movie in 70mm IMAX and it was 100% worth it. The theatrical experience was something of a miracle almost. Absolutely amazing
Definitely need to react to Killers of the Flower Moon next. One of the best movies of the year as well. So many from 2023 that are reaction worthy in my opinion. Now that I look back, it was surprisingly a great year for movies apart from all the superhero fatigue except for Across the Superverse.
I assume others realized this immediately but I just realized that the ripples in the pond at the end of the movie are similar to the ripples of the nuclear bomb explosions covering the surface of the Earth.
As far as I have read (Masters in History), Stimson did take Kyoto off the list because of its cultural significance...and I think he had stated he honeymooned there as a way of explaining how he knew so much about Kyoto. So that didn't bother me that much, it seems frivolous, but pretty much any choice like that is going to be made on (comparatively) frivolous reasons. Truman was not impressed with Oppenheimer upon their meeting, he did remind Oppenheimer (as Vishnu had reminded Arjuna when he became "destroyer of worlds") that the lives and deaths were ultimately his responsibility, not Oppenheimer's, and he made the "crybaby" comment later after Oppenheimer was gone if I remember correctly. The conversation between Oppenheimer and Einstein at the end was fictional, at least, no hard evidence. They did know each other, so they may have had a conversation like that, but its probably made up to tie all the themes of the movie together nicely, which it did. Great film!
This is a great movie! The acting just captivated me. I wish the film victory at the Oscars. However, it is funny how another American film shows that it was they who won the war and the most important breakthrough was the bombing of Japan, and not the liberation movement of the Soviet Union in Europe, which is so inconvenient to talk about or even remember.
Heisenberg is belived to have purposefully failed in making germans the bomb. It can never be proven or disproven but a couple of people on his circle have suggested it and also he and his team were so brilliant that them falling behind the american team is weird
I just noticed that their voices are panned opposite to how they are positioned 🤭 Eric's voice comes from my right ear and Aaron my left! Also this was one hell of a movie to see in theaters, though I found myself wishing I had brought my concert earplugs because the audio was mixed sooooo loud.
The scene with Truman is one of my favorites in this entire film, and for 1 line only-Oppenheimer is agonizing over his guilt, and Truman (in his brusque way) says, essentially, “you didn’t make the decision. I did. The buck stops with me, I’m the one who’s ultimately responsible for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.” And he’s right! But even in his guilt, Oppenheimer has an ego. He can’t get over the idea that he was solely responsible, when, in the end, you could point fingers at hundreds of people (including Einstein for writing that letter to FDR), but the one who actually has ultimate culpability for it is Truman.
The "bomb dilemma" is a false dichotomy. The bombing of Japan using nuclear weapons DID NOT make Japan surrender. For MONTHS before the dropping of the a-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the military leadership and Emperor of Japan were considering surrender. They had official paper drafted too. The bombing of CIVILIAN cities didn't hasten the end of the war. The bombs were used solely because America COULD and because we wanted to intimidate the USSR, who were the ones to force the Germans into surrendering.
Exactly and the idea the Japanese soldiers never surrendered is only partially true people believe the fable they were all samurai which is not true the very sad truth is that often japanese soldiers who surrendered were killed by the american soldiers this is a truth that is gradually coming out now. this doesn't cancel the crimes committed by the japanese soldiers in WW2 but there were crimes committed by the americans too and using the atomic bomb was one of them especially if you think the japanese never bombed any american city the attack at Pearl Harbor was on a military base.
If you're having trouble with the history aspect read the book "American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer" Kai Bird Martin Sherman
Main thing missing from the wrap up review was taking a moment to discuss how incredible Cillian Murphy’s performance was. The range of emotions he was able to portray with just his eyes was amazing
I think there is a little thing to consider. Hiroshima was a very destructive attack, but not so more than other bombing made by the Allies during the WWII. Only in 1944 the Allies dropped 900k tons of bombs in Germany and they usually bomb the day after a sunny day so the wooden construction would burn better (that's also the reason why they chose to bomb Hiroshima, almost all the constructions was made in wood and therefore the power of the bomb would have been exalted, they wanted to cancel Hiroshima on the map). Allies destroyed Dresden a city without any militar installation with the only aim of directly affecting the civilian population. They attacked with two raids three hours apart from each other, they waited 3 hours to ensure that the population - believing that the bombing was over - came out of the bunkers, so they could kill them (they were all civilians), thousands and thousands and thousand of people totally burned by incendiary bombs. It was a war crime that no one paid for. The Allies dropped more than 3k tons of bombs on Dresden, more than 10k tons on Hamburg dropped over the most populated neighborhoods of the city. 200k civilians dead in Tokyo under the Allied bombings. The Allies killed 2.1 million German civilians (plus more than 5M soldiers). So yes, it was bad but not so much worse than a lot of other things made by Allies during the war. But with the H bomb it's totally different. The most powerful bomb ever exploded was 10 time more powerful than all the bombs, weapons, bullets etc... used during WWII combined. In comparison Little Boy was really a little boy.
I actually started to tear up when Jack Quad shook the other scientist's hand in reaction to hearing the news of Japan, his character looked like he was also tearing up knowing exactly what he helped do and the terror and pain of it all.
This is one of the best films ive ever watched. More so than the godfather or even citizen kane. Everything about it was just incredible to me. The sheer horror i felt from watching this film was frightnening. The story alone was well put enough the way nolan put scenes in various orders. But the acting is a masterclass as well. Especially the main protagonist and antagonist. Cillain managed to play both so well and so did RDJ. But what stood out for me the most is Ludwik Goranssons score. This guy deserves way more recognition cause its also on the best scores ive heard as well. Just everything about this film is outstanding.
I'm writing that on Sunday March 10, 2024 Oppenheimer won seven academy awards. Best Cinematography, Best Film Editing, Best Original Score. Christopher Nolan won Best Director. Robert Downey Jr. won Best Supporting Actor. Cillian Murphy won Best Actor and Best Picture. Oppenheimer is the first three hour long film to win Best Picture in 20 years since The Lord of the Rings The Return of the King won Best Picture at the 2004 academy awards.
I noticed this in your full length, but the "spy" Fuchs, was always the one watching everything a little longer than everyone else. Kind of a fun little detail.
Fun Fact: After the aide mentions that JFK was one of the Senators to vote against Strauss, we see Lyndon Johnson presenting Oppenheimer with an award in the White House. The announcement of Oppenheimer receiving the award was made on the morning of November 22nd 1963, the day Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. It was virtually the last thing announced by Kennedy's White House before his death.
I was curious that I did some research on the atomic bomb before watching the movie and glad I did. I researched enough to understand the science but not to spoil the whole Strauss thing. Great movie!
I just gotta say that intro was so spontaneus that I´m rewiding to see it again and again lmfao Actually, I´m gonna do a dissertation on why this intro is so good. We can put it that is simply because is funny, kind of unexpected and really spontaneus as I´ve said before. But when we look deeper into it, we can see that it has layers of collective work to build the joke even further. We start off by Calvin just standing still on his chair with a ´´dead´´ look on his face. At the same time we see Eric and Aaron having a normal conversation while we see dead Calvin in the middle. Then Eric adds that ´´we should get started and crank up Calvin´´ like he´s not real. He cranks him up. Dead Calvin immediately follows by responding to the ´cranking´ by becoming alive Calvin. Aaron adds that Eric should take the key out so no one finds out. He notices Eric forgot to follow the command for the joke and does this himself. Alive robot Calvin responds and say one of the most funny shit I´ve ever seen ´´it´s always uncomfortable´´. Then Alive robot uncomfortable Calvin tries to start the video but keeps glitching and *THE EDITOR ADDS IN COLOR WITH THE GLITCHES!* It´s such a simple yet amazing team work improv along with the editor´s help to get that cherry on top. Amazing, gentlemen. Truly amazing.
“Despite derision, physicists decide the mission is dividing, splitting atoms till a blinding light is given, quite efficient. The divine right to mankind’s plight is christened. A minor decision, hijacked by politicians.” - Dan Bull, Civilisation rap
for me probably tied with Killers Of The Flower Moon as my 2nd favorite movie of the year... may prefer Killers Of The Flower Moon tbh, but both are great. My #1 was Spiderman though
I visited the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Museum. The sheer horror of what happened when and after those bombs dropped is inconceivable, but what you see there is enough to haunt you forever
As happy as I am to see your first reaction to this movie here, I also wish you would have seen it in the theater. The sound design throughout was incredible, but especially during the bomb scene and rally scene afterwards. It made for an absolutely visceral experience.
One thing I believe, though above ground was long ago banned, a thermonuclear weapon should be detonated every ten years so that everyone is fully aware of what these are really like.
Don't forget to watch Oppenheimer 2 - The rise of the H Bomb or Oppenheimer 3 - Nuke Mars. Pretty sure they start making cute little nuclear warhead toys soon. Unending Franchise.
On that whole "Spare Kyoto, my honeymoon was there", there was a Japanese defector who acted as an advisor for the bombings, and he insisted that Kyoto remain intact, since it was the last city in Japan that maintained ancient Japanese culture, including structures, gardens, etc. He felt that if Kyoto were destroyed, Japan would forget it's history. I think that line in the film may have just been used to emphasize how detached many people were in the US when it came to dropping Fat Man and Little Boy.
It's great to see this reaction, and great to rewatch part of the movie. I appreciate it, but you guys should really have watched it in 70mm IMAX to fully enjoy this one.
1:05:53 The line about Kyoto was ad-libed, but it's accurate TO A DEGREE. We have no idea if the guy actually decided to toss Kyoto out based on the honeymoon, in my best recollection, but according to the cast, the line was riffed basically because the actor read the original book and did research on his character, and found out that the real person had a honeymoon in Kyoto with his wife there IRL while also making comments that made it out like Japan was just an angry Disney World character revolt that needed to be rectified so everyone could go back to the parks. Which is kinda fucked when you're talking about dropping an atomic weapon on thousands of people. -🖊️
Google Philippe Halsmann's photographs that he took of Oppenheimer a decade after these events. You can still plainly see the haunt and regret and sadness in his eyes. I don't think he ever smiled again. (And just one little nit that I have to pick. The word "whenever" means "each time." Like, "I get the butterflies in my stomach whenever she walks into the room." The word you mean to use is "when.") Well?? SOME-body had to say it! Sorrr-REEEEE! ;0)
