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This and the Dune movies were easily few of the best movies we watched in the last years. So much nuance, great acting all around and amazing cinematography to boot. I do love you guys for always choosing great quality content, this thing alone probably makes you my favorite reaction channel since the hotd/got days (well plus the amazing banter). And while the boys is a severely overrated show I do the blind eyes, most of the time you do banger after banger after all, great movie choices, even good anime (like death note), topping quality with Chernobyl and even starting True Detective and Peaky blinders series now, which are absolutely BEYOND fantastic journeys. Cheers to the fantastic australian DUO!
Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr. both won oscars for best actor and best supporting actor respectively for their amazing performances. Strauss for sure makes the sneaky snake tier list.
If I remember correctly, OPPENHEIMER (2023) is only the 6th film to win Oscars for both Actor and Supporting Actor. The other 5 were GOING MY WAY (1944) (Bing Crosby and Barry Fitzgerald), THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946) (Frederic March and Harold Russell), BEN-HUR (1959) (Charlton Heston and Hugh Griffith), MYSTIC RIVER (2003) (Sean Penn and Tim Robbins), and DALLAS BUYERS CLUB (2013) (Matthew McConaughey and Jared Leto). Funny how the 3 most recent films to do this achieved it in 10-year intervals, and 4 of those 6 movies also won Picture (only MYSTIC RIVER and DALLAS BUYERS CLUB have failed to win it).
It's so good, never felt like that from a film before, it really feels like you're looking into an inevitable future that's coming for us and it's very scary and very real
The Nukes were a necessary evil. They saved millions of Japanese, and atleast a million allied soldiers. The Japanese were starving to death, but still had a three million man army left, and were never going to surrender, with a three million man army willing to fight for the homeland. Also Nuclear weapons did create a peace the world had never seen before. They prevented the third world war, and all the wars since then haven’t even added up to how many died in WW2. Hence why it has been called the “Long Peace”. As hard as is to grasp, the invention of nukes were objectively, and overall…. a good thing. Human beings needed the guarantee of total destruction to keep themselves somewhat in check.
"Can your hear the music?" by Ludwig Goransson is a masterpiece of a soundtrack. The second oscar win for this genius composer, we will hear of him for a lot of time
Absolutely incredible film. My favorite film of 2023. Quite possibly Christopher Nolan’s best film, and undeniably the career defining performances from both Cillian Murphy and Robert Downey Jr. The Academy got it right with the Oscars that they gave this movie, for Best Picture, Best Director for Christopher Nolan, Best Actor for Cillian Murphy, Best Supporting Actor for Robert Downey Jr., Original Music, Cinematography, and Editing.
Not even remotely Nolan's best film, and certainly no "career-defining" performance by either of those two actors, especially not RDJ. And best film of the year? That's a total joke. Compare it to e.g. a masterpiece like _Poor Things_ and you quickly see what total nonsense those awards have become. I'd say the only redeeming feature of the film was the soundtrack.
@@hoon_sol I personally thought POOR THINGS was the worst of the nominees, made even worse especially when compared to THE FAVOURITE (2018) from the same director. OPPENHEIMER was the 3rd best of the nominees in my view, after KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON and THE ZONE OF INTEREST. At the same time, we need to realize that art is subjective, and one person's definition of best will not align with another (for example, I think GLADIATOR (2000) is the worst film to win Best Picture) and it is broad consensus of a large group of people that ultimately determines who wins.
@@axr7149: It's clear from the way you capitalize film titles that you have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about, and when you talk about absolute steaming garbage like _Killers of the Flower Moon_ as if it somehow weren't the total trash it was, then it's even clearer that you really have zero idea about film in general. Of course trying to pull the "muh art is subjective" out of your ass is exactly what I expect from someone who tries to elevate garbage to the same level as actual cinematic art.
One of my favourite films of all time. When I saw it last year it just blew me away. A 3 hour masterpiece from beginning to end. Cillian Murphy giving one of the best performances I’ve seen. What an actor!! Absolutely deserved his Oscar for Oppenheimer. I’m glad you guys enjoyed it too.
Cillian Murphy is one of the greatest actors of his generation. You guys will absolutely love Peaky Blinders. Funny that you mentioned Sheldon Cooper: he once adopted cats and named them Oppenheimer, Fermi, Frisch Feynman, Teller and Zazzles 😂😂
Cillian Murphy is one of the best actors alive. And so humble, he just does his work, a few interviews and then dips back to Ireland to hang out in a random pub
9:48, One thing that I thought was very refreshing about Oppenheimer and his contemporaries is how diverse they were in their interest. Sure he was a brilliant physicist but he also had an interest in music, art, religion, history and languages. Quite often the representation of very smart people is that they are only interested in their particular field and clueless about all else. As we can see Oppenheimer was also a ladies man. Also many of the scientists Oppenheimer meets in this movie are legendary figures in the sciences. Some were his heroes and some his rivals.
Yes! I hope they do 28 Days Later, that would be great. I’d like them to watch a few zombie movies and that, horrors too. That would propel like channel too.
We did a whole Barbenheimer day when this came out. About 10 of us going for brunch, watching this, heading to the pub for a whiskey, going back to watch Barbie, then having dinner and cocktails. Not even joking one of the best days of my life.
Good that you ended on Barbie lol. Ending on this movie would be a rather depressing end lol. After I watched this in theaters I spent the entire ride home imagining the world engulfed in firestorms.
The growth of this channel and you guys in particular has been beautiful to watch... You guys have really started to appreciate the depth of art.. who would have thought spartan would be watching a heavy dialogue based movie on quantum physics 💙💙
"We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
Thanks for reviewing this one. It might interest you to know that Einstein visited Japan in 1923. He lectured in Kyoto, Tokyo… and Hiroshima. Greetings from Kyoto.
One of the saddest things to me about this movie is that I've seen examples of people like Oppenheimer in real life. People who are brilliant in their own line of work, absolute geniouses, but completely inept at basic social requirements like being a father, staying faithful to a partner, or joining a sub-culture that will get you in trouble with the government. "Embrace revolution in science, why not society as well" is so incredibly logical, but so easy to ruin someone's life. I think he's on the spectrum in some way, and I think it's a common issue with people extremely gifted like him. Once you understand the fabric of reality, it's hard to care about the constructs of culture.
In Oppenheimer's case, his sub-culture was a murderous ideology, fuelled by drunk utopian hubris, and it has yet to answer for its crimes. Millions had already died in 1930s Soviet Union directly due to the actions of communist practice.
And yet, once he lost his security clearance he and Kitty stayed together and had another 3 children, and he took up sailing. ..the man was a great contradiction!
Very rarely does a movie live up to the hype. It's a masterclass in pacing and pathos with some of the most magnetic and memorable performances in recent memory.
The cyanide apple incident is attested from several sources about Oppenheimer, but his living family says that it never happened. We don't know for sure that it happened, but to me it makes sense that his family would want to say it didn't happen.
Yeah, imagine the pitch meeting. Nolan: "I want to make a three-hour, R-rated movie mostly about mathematics and politics. And a third of it will be in black and white. And I'm shooting it in IMAX." Studio: ....
Score for this movie is brilliant. Glad you guys noticed it. Ludwig Goransson also did The Mandalorian, Black Panther, and Creed. The score for Oppenheimer won him an Academy Award. 😊
Great reaction guys like always, This movie is another masterpiece from Nolan. What he has put before our eyes definitively deserves to be seen, as does Cillian Murphy's performance in the role of Oppenheimer and the irreconcilable but fantastic, but Robert Downey Jr. in the role of Lewis Strauss is in another level what a great performance truly amazing. The Trinity Test recreation was filmed without special effects, Nolan is no stranger to recreating dramatic events on the big screen but in perhaps his most ambitious move yet, the director decided to film the atomic bomb test without using any CGI or visual effects. That means what you see on screen really did take place - although on a smaller scale. The movie opens with an ominous opening caption, which reads: “Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it to man. For this he was chained to a rock and tortured for eternity.” The film is based on Kai Bird’s 2005 Oppenheimer biography American Prometheus and explaining the comparison, Kai writes in his book: “Like that rebellious Greek god Prometheus who stole fire from Zeus and bestowed it upon humankind, Oppenheimer gave us atomic fire. The cast lived together during filming, Nolan moved his cast and crew into digs together. Emily Blunt likened the situation to ‘summer camp’ and told People: “We were all in the same hotel in the middle of the New Mexican desert. We only had each other.” in another unusual move, Nolan wrote the script in first person in order to reflect how most of the film is being told from Oppenheimer’s perspective and using his memories. Matt Damon told in an interview: “I’ve never seen that done before. Instead of ‘Oppenheimer walks across the room,’ it’s ‘I walk across the room.’ This was a way for him to signal that, Okay, this is what the movie’s going to feel like. It’s going to feel immediate.” Keep up the good work.
Nolan did something interesting with the color. The color segments represented the subjective "story" version of the movie, from Oppenheimer's perspective and how he wants to be remembered. The B&W scenes represent a more objective account, using only the things in the historical record. The color scenes paint a sympathetic portrait of a complicated man, and the B&W scenes portray an opportunistic power-grabber. Though Strauss is the villain of the movie, many of the things he said were factually correct. Taken together, the movie shows the struggle in understanding Oppenheimer's life and motivations.
The sound in the IMAX theatre where I saw this movie was incredible.. the moment the blast and sound wave hits the scientists during the Trinity test … they must have turned every speaker in the Theatre up to maximum and pointed then all directly at the audience, the sound of the blast felt like it blew you back down into your seat.
The surviving author of the book it’s based on met the cast and crew. According to Murphy, American Prometheus was required reading for the movie. There is an Oppenheimer documentary on Peacock called To End all Wars, people being interviewed include the Director and the surviving author. You two might like it
Yeah, at this point you'd think people would've stopped underestimating you guys, like you were incapable of enjoying anything slightly more sophisticated. Great reaction as always.
Don’t find many thriller biopics out there. Filmed as a historical drama, edited and scored like an action film. A rare combo of genres, Nolan and his talented team can seemingly do anything and make it grounded, compelling, visually stunning, musically epic, and downright impressive. What’s he got up his sleeve for his next project? My notifications are set.
I didn't expect what is essentially a biopic, based in actual history, to deliver satisfying "plot twists". All of the characters and time period changes made it hard to keep up throughout the movie but it all came to a high point in those final 30 minutes. You get the takedown of Strauss, Kitty standing up for her and her husband, and the reveal of what he and Einstein talk about, and it ends with that chilling final line.
Been watching you guys for a while and really enjoy your channel, but I think this might be my favorite post-content breakdown yet. You had a few insights that I missed that made me rethink a few things, and that's a pretty big deal for me. Thank you, you made me appreciate a film more than I did prior to watching your reaction.
This film had such a big impact on me like an atomic bomb. At the end of the film, I was shaking and crying without any reason. It was shocking and at the same time and increadibly awsome. I can't discribe properly how many emotions were running through me.
This was an indescribable piece to experience at the cinema! I’ll remember how I felt watching it forever. Amazing, chilling work! What an incredible movie.
The beauty of this film. When the bomb goes off there are so many emotions it makes you cry. I cried honestly. The beauty of that shot, seeing the particles connecting and everything reacting. You have no music, its just the beautiful scene infront of you. Than reality hits. This was real. This at one point wasnt CGI or film. This was real. We did this. What have we done? What did we do? Its such a beautiful, and terrifying film.
Oppenheimer won 7 Oscars. Best Picture Best Score - Ludwig Goransson Best Director - Christopher Nolan Best Actor - Cillian Murphy Best Supporting Actor - Robert Downey jr Best Cinematography - Hoyte Van Hoytema Best Editing - Jennifer Lame
Everytime I rewatch Oppenheimer here i always follow it up with a rewatch of Godzilla Minus One both films are masterpieces and both centered around the Atomic Bomb's creation and the impact of them physically and psychologically on top of the impact of everything else that happened throughout the entirety of WW2
im so glad you guys watched this!! pls add a film called "Hacksaw Ridge" its another ww2 film that will blow you away. also a quick piece of trivia for Oppenheimer, all the scenes in black and white are from oppenheimers perspective, but all the scenes in color are actual events as they happened so theres 2 perspectives throughout the movie.
I saw this in IMAX which is an extra level of immersion. Huge screen that wraps around the audience and curves from top to bottom. Almost like a half dome. The speakers are LOUD and definitely way too loud during the previews but when the drums are ramping up tension and that otherworldy soundtrack is playing with those atomic visuals it was nothing short of a Religious experience.
One other note about Oppenheimer's motivations--the fact that he was Jewish. I appreciated the movie including the quote "It's not your people they're putting into camps, it's mine," but wish they had explored that aspect of his motivation a little more.
Cillian Murphy is my favourite actor! Im a retired ballet dancer and I can see how, because he is such a phenomenal stage actor, he can really change his whole appearance. In none his roles, does he look or sound the same. As Emily Blunt says, he's very clever. Do watch his other movies... many of them are Irish or British productions...watch him in Breakfast on Pluto as a transgender woman, then watch him in Red Eye and the Wind That Shakes the Barley... it's almost inconceivable that it's the same man in each film, and that these movies were made in only 18 months. Then he's completely different in Sunshine and as for Peaky Blinders...well!!! The list goes on . I really admire him ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ .
I sincerely hope this blows your mind in a good way. Heisenberg is indeed famous, most notably for the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. It is a fundamental principle in our understanding of how the world, the universe, exists. It is also, unlike most things in quantum mechanics, rather intuitive and easily understandable. So the Uncertainty Principle states that you cannot know absolutely, the exact measurement of a system's position and momentum simultaneously. When you try to measure one, the measurement of the other becomes blurry - uncertain if you will, and it is remarkably simple to understand why. When you make a measurement of somethings momentum, that means it is in motion. If something is in motion, it naturally does not have a defined position. One moment it's here, the next it's there. If you ask someone to point to the position of an object with momentum, that is, an object in motion, they cannot do so. It's position is rather spread out, from the point where it begins to have momentum or motion, to the point where it's momentum stops. It can be said then that it's position is uncertain, because you don't know where it is, you have to wait for it to stop. In order to measure absolutely the position of any object it must be motionless, for then is the only circumstance where you can definitively point to where it is with absolute certainty. If something is in motion, in order to take a measurement of its position, you have to, in a word, take a "picture" of it. You have to take a snapshot of the object in that moment, but doing so does something. Pictures don't move, so when you look at an object in motion in a picture, you can't measure it's momentum, because it's a still image. In the photo it has no momentum, at least any measurable momentum, but because you know the object in the photo is in motion, you know it must certainly have momentum. Because you can't measure it though, it can be said that it's momentum is uncertain. All this seems less intuitive when we look around the world, and definitively see objects moving in which we can see (measure) their position, as well as their momentum and change in momentum. Likewise, I can see a rock that is very much not in motion, meaning I know it's position, and I am not looking at a snapshot of the rock so i know it's position and that it has zero momentum. It must be said however that these are approximations made by the brain. As we all know, everything is made up of particles, and those particles are at all times vibrating, and that vibrational motion is included when trying to determine its position and momentum. No matter how intelligent or advanced, we will never be able to. We might see the rock still and motionless, in a fixed position, but if we look closer we will never be able to accurately and simultaneously measure the position and motion of all the little particles that make it up. To reconcile this we must answer why this is the case in the first place. I know I said it's intuitive, that the reason why we cant is because you cant point at one spot and say that is where a moving object is, and if I take a snapshot to do so, the object is no longer moving. But why does the world even behave like this? Why can we consciously observe any of this at all? Why can our brain even make these approximations? Herein lies the reconciliation. I know I said that we all know that everything is made up of particles, but I lied. Everything is made up of waves. Like motion that starts at one point stationary, move through spacetime increasing in momentum, and then ends at another point, stationary. Like this: ~ Everything that exists is actually that right there. Everything is spread out, like a wave. It's not quite that we can't measure both positions and momentum perfectly simultaneously, it's that position and momentum simultaneously are what define the wave itself, and for whatever reason, we simply cannot observe the wave in its entirety. The universe simply does not allow the wave itself to be observed and measured. So how do we see things at all? Because like taking picture of something in motion, our brain does the same thing. What we call particles are a snapshot of the wave, a wave that is spread out, like an object in motion, and the particle we see, is only one piece of that wave, in the same way that the picture of an object in motion is only one of the positions it has been in. So when we see the rock, sitting there, with no motion, in a fixed position, the rock is actually vibrating, and exists in wave form, alternating in position, alternating in momentum. When we see someone walking, we might see them take a specific path, but while they are walking it, the whole while they are vibrating back and forth, side to side, to and fro, and when we look with our eyes, our brain only gets to see a single snapshot in the middle of those alternations, because the universe simply does not let us see those it play out. Now it is also the case that everything is in a superposition of all states. So it can be said that an object isn't just simply vibrating, but it is at one time, in a state where all those vibrations are happening at the same time. Like a wave though, you aren't allowed to see all those happening at once. For whatever reasons we see our world in only one configuration. When we look at the superposition, the wave collapses, and we see but a particle, a single configuration. So when you are driving to work, you are also walking to work, driving a different way, walking a different way, carpooling, etc. all at the same time. But the universe doesn't allow us to see you go to work from two different directions at the same time, so when we look at you going to work, we see but one.
@@BadassRaiden I always thought the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle has a greater effect on the measurement of subatomic particles not objects at our level of scale.
@@technofilejr3401 Yes of course. I just meant that fundamentally, even though when we look at things at our scale that we seem to be able to define the position and momentum of absolutely, we actually aren't. On a basic level, when a baseball is flying through the air, it's position is uncertain for the reason I described, and when you fix it's position, it's momentum becomes uncertain for the reason I described. Fundamentally however, it is indeed because of subatomic particles, because there are billions and billions of them that make up that baseball, all of which are individually vibrating and we could never measure them all. No matter how accurate a device we make, because the harder and harder we try to measure, the more uncertain those measurements become. So yes, you are correct. It absolutely has a greater effect on the subatomic world. I merely wanted to show that it still has an effect at all macroscopically, and that it can be intuitively understood macroscopically.
5:55 Niels Bohr might be a familiar name from high school chemistry class... he founded the Bohr Model of the atom, the model that stated that electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom at fixed energy levels, with different distance orbits requiring different amounts of energy to move between, and the excess energy the movement creates releases photons (energy). 20:48 yes, the Manhattan Project cost around 2 billion dollars at the time. 38:05 over 200K people died due to the explosion and the cancer from the radiation zone in the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nothing like a little nuclear holocaust to make existential anxiety return in todays climate.
The bit about Feynman trusting the glass of the windshield stopping the UV was true. He later figured he was the only person who watched the test with the naked eye.
Every single Oscar deserved..and in my opinion the single greatest ending dialogue in any movie ever made. That scene scared the living crap out of me and everyone in the theatre..my wife turned white....
One of the best Nolan films, first time I heard reviews people were saying "its just so much dialogue. But I thought the dialogue was perfectly paced and suspenseful all the way to the end. Maybe the best Nolan film.
@@bodigames trying to pronounce dutch words is not speaking dutch. i wouldve wanted Nolan to find one dutch speaking american to actually teach Cillian Murphy how to pronounce the words. it seems like Nolan told Cillian: these are the words, make them sound kinda german. its just sad when he has the capibility to just get a teacher on set for a couple days.
@@deltazeroksactually, Hoyte the cinematographer is dutch and recorded the lines for Cillian. You can hear 'verschillende quantumenergien' and 'relatieve translatie' but with a heavy german accent, which he was better at. Ofcourse not 100% historically accurate but they tried more than most films would. Also i remember Hoyte saying a lot of the lines where cut, so that makes it even more hard to understand
@@sammie_nl dont u guys see ur actually proving my point? if u have to argue against the fact that none of it is understandable, u have lost already. we can all agree it sounds nothing like its supposed to. and just because u can kind of hear 2 words does not make it proper dutch, what is totally acievable if they spend more time on it....
Film is probably Nolan's best script, it is incredibly dense and setups and calls back earlier lines repeatedly. I think the most important line of the film is when Oppenheimer is teaching Quantum Mechanics, and he asks whether Light exists as a wave or a particle. And then answers that it is both, which is paradoxical, but true. And that line essentially encapsulates Oppenheimer's entire character. He's someone that built the Atomic Bomb, but refuses take have responsibility over the inevitable arms race. He's for developing an A-Bomb which kills hundreds of thousands, but is against building a Hydrogen Bomb. He's a communist, and yet also a capitalist. A family man and a womanizer. He lives a life of contradictions to the point that not even he can adequately explain his own actions and beliefs. And so we are left examining a man no one can fully understand.
And to give credit to the master that is Christopher Nolan, imagine this movie having no CGI. Yes, those crazy pictures of the world in Robert’s mind were actually shot. How.? No idea. Ask Nolan.
I already love you guys. You two and "Suzy and Steejo" both have good chemistry when reacting to movies. Not to be the American over here: but your the Australian version of Suzy and Steejo.
You kids might enjoy the film, "A Beautiful Mind" starring Russel Crowe in a roll that will surprise you. It's a great film that won numerous Academy Awards (back when that meant something), numerous Critics Choice awards and a truckload of others. Like Oppenheimer, it's based on a true story and while they got a few things wrong (you have to when making a film if only for brevity) but they got most of it head on. Love your channel. Cheers!
37:25, In his famous song "Russians", the singer Sting lamented "How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy?" This is it when it became reality. To be honest I'm more worried about Teller's more deadly toy the hydrogen bomb, which uses an atomic bomb to kick off an even more powerful explosion.
I have noticed how 2023 was an incredible year for movies which provided commentary on the devastating consequences of power in uniquely different ways, all by influential big-name directors as well. Apart from OPPENHEIMER (which was about nuclear destruction), you also had KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON (by Martin Scorsese, which was about the systematic killings of the Osage people for oil money), THE ZONE OF INTEREST (by Jonathan Glazer, focusing on the family of Rudolf Hoss (the commandant of Auschwitz concentration camp)), and even BARBIE (directed by Greta Gerwig, focusing on patriarchy). All 4 were Best Picture Oscar nominees, with 3 of them even getting Best Director nominations.