Optic Mount Heights 

I didnt think it was normal to want a truck gun other than a pistol, until I looked into it lol. Now I ride with my M&P regularly, and legally. Booyah red states.

Glad it helped man

Glad it helped

Dont know if you already decided, but the aimpoint pro or comp m4 is a good solution for this. A $40 spacer lets you mess around with height rather than having to buy a whole new mount.

What woman should I marry? But seriously, you can try them both and pick the one that works best with you. Optics planet does free shipping and free returns.

Yep

Depends on your zero, but up close there is a difference in mechanical offset.

Possibly, but that depends on your head/neck. Everyone's different.

What’s your zero?

@@essray 75 yards keeps me on a 6 inch gong till 250 yards.

@@essray it’s a 13.7 but a friend has an 11.5 with similar results with that zero.

@@ericdoubleu5390 Where POI at 25 yards with that zero?

@@izatt82 about three inches low

The scalar. If you look on the individual websites they will tell you the heights of their mounts

I got a 30mm FDE 1.7 badger mount I’m looking to get rid of

I prefer them at a 1.93 height. I want them as high as I use red dots

I'm not sure. I haven't tried it but if the knights iron is 1.5 height then probably not.

Lol you just said the order of how they are. Absolute is 1.5, 1/3 is 1.7, 1.93 and 2.33 are what they are. They are all measured from the rail.

@@KineticConsulting Not sure what's funny about that. I know what order they are. I never questioned the order. It's quite apparent from your video on the order. The question was, what is the height of the first two since they were never mentioned. Think of it this way: when you call it "absolute" and "lower 1/3" a newbie has no frame of reference of what that means in terms of their actual height in inches, so they can't picture that in their head. When you call the others 1.93 and 2.33, well we all know what that means because we have all been taught measurements since we were a kid and immediately can gauge what 1.93 inches is and what 2.33 inches is. Thanks for answering.

Get a 50 yard zero, move to 10 yards, take shots, observe the offset. It'll be between 1-2.5 inches depending on range and mount.

Yes, I use the Unity Tactical fast riser

Depends on the mount height. You're best to go test it out based on what you're using and your zero.

@@KineticConsulting gotcha. wanted to check out a 1.93 mount...ill figure it out lol

If you're shooting close distance, or at a distance that you zeroed in for there isn't really a reason why you should have the dot not where you want your bullet to go. The only reasons I can think of where you would ever do that is: first, if you're actively suppressing someone's movements with fire - in which case you're just shooting in their general direction and it doesn't matter where you're precisely aiming at. And second, if you're shooting at a target that is at a distance that you are not zeroed in for - in that case you might want to aim your gun higher or lower in order to adjust for the distance.

@@Xyzanimator Thanks. But what Im saying is everybody is saying to use the lower third cowitness so the red dot is above the center post of the front sight, right? But then when I shoot, that bullet is going where that center post is in the sight, not where the red dot is, right? So like if Im trying to shoot somebody in the chest, do I aim the red dot at their head? And maybe not even necessarily there because if they’re closer I would want to place the red dot on their neck, and if their further away I would want to place the red dot above their head (and then am I supposed to calculate the target’s distance to figure out how high above the target that red dot is supposed to be in my view)? As opposed to absolute cowitness in which case it would line up perfectly. Ya know what Im saying?

@@TomAZ1984 Here, try watching this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aBVqxJ58kxs.html I think it will help you understand what people are talking about.

@@TomAZ1984 So on the highest mount in the video it’s measured at only around 2.33 inches which isn’t really something to be that worried about. It wouldn’t really effect shot placement like you say that much unless your trying to hit someone’s head which is only applicable in certain situations. In that case, all you do is aim about ~3-4 inches (due to height over bore) higher from where you want to hit. Because the torso is so large ~3-4 inches really won’t make a difference if you’re shooting in the center of the A zone of the target which is about 9 inches long. Hope this helps!

Regardless of sight height the bullet is going to arc and intercept the sight or dot at 1 specific point then it is going to drop until it hits the ground. It does not travel in a straight line so say you had a lower 1/3 your dot and your front sight would be sighted in separately. The bullet will only go where it is intended at 1 specific distance that you sighted it in at. Its all physics. If you sight it in at 100 yards everything that you hold that dot on will hit low and everything past 100 yards will hit low. Only at 100 will it hit that point of aim. You as the operator have to compensate for every other distance.

It applies for all optics but more so for the smaller ones like the T1 size.

Carry handle is pretty nostalgic though. Didn’t realize until I started getting into NVG’s that a 2.33 is really comfy and doable.

@@BananarchOfTedKacistan for me the main reason I went to carry handle mount was because I always have a gas mask as part of my kit. With it I solved my problems.

Lol that why I corrected

Adm makes a 1/3 mount that is good to go

Usually 1.93 or higher

@@KineticConsulting thanks.

I love it. When this was made they hadn't released it yet.

@@KineticConsulting do you prefer the scalar works or unity mount?

@@somethinganything4864 I prefer the Unity. It wasn't in my hands yet for this video

It could be used for those, but depends. Don't buy utg crap. Not worth it

@@KineticConsulting Theres a big difference between UTG and UTG Pro(but theyre owned & operated by same people). Standard UTG is cheaper quality stuff pretry much made for Airsoft. While UTG Pro is made with great quality and industry standard materials. I have had fantastic luck with every single UTG Pro product I have gotten. Honestly impeccable quality But I will say that they do have some products that are not the greatest, but that can be said about almost any company. I own 2 of their MilSpec stocks. I also own, 1 one inch riser/optic mount. An AR Carry handle sight. A couple Receiver Extensions(Buffer tubes). A Carbine Quad Rail. And my absolute favorite of them all, I recently got a UTG PRO AR15 ULTRA SLIM 15" Handguard in Black/Blue(they also make them in Black/Red & just Black) I highly recommend you go check out this rail. It is literally the most beautiful handguard I have ever seen and I have built about 10 ARs. Bottom line, please dont judge UTG PRO products because of UTG products. Its a whole different world of quality. Im just trying to help. Just trying to give credit where credit is due. Trust me man, I have (typically) expensive taste in firearms. The UTG Pro products actually scratch that itch. The UTG Pro Handguard I bought just went on a $1500 AR. Its just perfect. Anyhoo, God bless you my friend. Its a pleasure to meet you. Im glad I found your channel.

@@KineticConsulting I know it could be used for AR rails and sights etc buddy, Im just mainly curious what the majority of people would probably use them on. Who knows. Majority of peeps probably use em on ARs, because maybe they dont know much about risers or theyre just running a red dot & no irons. So it may seem right to them. Who knows, I will shut up now...

Depends on the mount. Some have pass through to see the sights. Unity Tactical fast is one of them that has its own irons

can buy different heights! absolute with matchup with red dots and shit. lower and higher. i got troy minis that are lower than my optic...and an eotech thts level with irons. then u can buy 1.93s tht will go over a pec15

Depends on what you plan on using. I like 1.93 on my mpx

@@KineticConsultingthank you. Was just coming to research same answer. I’ve consistently used Scalarworks LEAP and Aimpoint T2 at 1.93 for longer barrels. Wasn’t sure about MPX K.

You ain't wrong. That's why I'm going back to a 1.5 or maybe 1.7

Might be true in the military but civilian and police applications don't typically call for full prone. But youre still not wrong. if it does happen it'll be more difficult

Home defense in prone?

If you're shooting a lot with NODs or a gas mask a high height is a must

I have the Colt M4 Le6920 and the 1 inch riser was too tall for 1/3rd co witness and unusable for absolute. I got another measuring .5 inch on the way and If I can remember will come post results.

To my knowledge there isn't any

The unity tactical "super tall" mount has built in sights.

Need to use a riser. Now you’re getting into adding a lot of shit. If you’re not running an offset micro or rds you can use offset irons like Dueck Defense RTS or Troy offset folding sights. Or just make sure you have QD mounts.

Don't buy a shit optic and the need for irons drop drastically. Also if you're like me and use a good ir/vis laser or an offset red dot then the need for irons dies further unless you really want them.

Actually it is. The higher the mount the larger the angle of departure is from the barrel. I don't think you know as much as I think you do

Sorry my options and opinions on my video don't satisfy your needs.