I watch a lot of rifle scope videos. You did an amazing job. As a great 1SGT told me "The first rule of Recon is that you will never know everything. Shut up and pay attention and you might learn something new". And I know more than most, yet you just taught me a bit more. Thank you for your time and effort.
I have Leupold rings and Vortex rings. On both, I have had scope movement. Once it get settled in, I tighten again, with my right hand. I am left-handed with pistol and writing and several things but I shoot rifles and shotgun right=handed. So, it is slightly weaker than my left hand. I learned the hard way about needing an elevated and offset mount, like the Vortex Sport mount. First, the offset to get the relief where you need it, just over the charging handle. If you set a forward ring on the free floating hand guard, you may have alignment issues. Secondly, the elevation. I first put the scope on with regular tall rings and could not get my eye to line up axially with the center of the scope. What happens is that you use up all the elevation in your scope trying to laser sight. Also, pay attention to tube size. I am tempted to change to the Vortex Venom, which is the Diamonback but with zero stop and more MOA.. Designed for long range but you can hunt with it. Well, that has a 34 mm tube. So, if I put one on the R16, I need a sport mount for 34 mm. on My MVP Long Range 308, I could get away with the tall mounts but they would have to be changed to 34. And then what to do with the Diamondback Tacticals...
Ruger had it's own scope mounts back a few years ago and for mounting my scope on my rifle I had to go with the high mounts and it just barely keeps the scope off the barrel I should mention that the scope has a 50mm objective lens on it , so when picking out scope mounts you have to take into consideration the type of scope and how it mounts to the rifle and how much of an objective lens you need on your scope.
Awesome thank you so much for doing this set of videos it has helped tremendously as I am looking to get a 300 win mag for my trip of a lifetime hunt for elk and thinking through the options can be daunting also like the work you did on the 350 legend
I've had good luck with the UTG pro USA made rings. They come in what you would call a four-bolt or a 6 bolt pattern. Some of the cheaper weaver brand rings that I've tried both seemed uneven in contact and also allowed shift. In one case the shift was at the lugs on the picatinny rail so you could sort of compensate by spacing the rings on the rail to be already bottomed out opposing each other... But it didn't encourage me to want them again. I'm with you on stuff like NC Star. Those are fine for holding a flashlight if they're physically strong enough. But I don't want to use them for scope. There's also the style of proprietary rings like Ruger has on a lot of their bolty guns. They lock into a semicircular cutout on the receiver bridge. As far as I can remember I've only ever seen them in steel or stainless.
I bought a UTG pro one piece mount for a "budget" AR setup about a year ago and was instantly impressed with the quality for the price. I remember back when UTG was on par with NcStar but their pro line seems legit. I'm considering trying the rings for one of my bolt guns I'm about to re-scope for next deer season
I'm putting together a budget long range precision build rn & was having trouble finding quality looking budget 34mm rings (I'm going with a vortex venom 5-25) besides these UTG Pro's so they're what I settled on. Used utg stuff in the past and like them so I want too concerned but it's good to see others have good experiences with these & I'm probably going to be happy with em!
*EDIT* got everything in and put together. I like the utg rings, they're typical bomb-proof utg quality, but unfortunately they only come in medium height for the 34mm size (at least on Amazon). I DEFINITELY need low profile rings. I'm now looking at a set of wheeler low profiles for about $15 more than the utg's and have a built in level. Prolly keep the utg's around just in case I need mediums when I eventually buy a custom medium Palma profile barrel for it. Oh well 🤷♂️
If you have an AR with the military A2 front sight post, you will see that post in your LPVO I got a deal on a Strike Eagle 1-6x24 SFP with AR BDC3 reticle and I could see almost like a shadow of the sight at 3 power
What about Burris Posi-Align rings with the inserts Takes all the torsion off the scope you can add any elevation you don!t need to lap especially with two piece bases
Midwest quick detachable mount I have NEVER had to lap them! They are a good mid-priced mount Also o my precision rifle I purchased ACCU-TAC MOUNT and there bipod is the best bipod I have ever seen
I would love to see a segment focused on just carbine setups. What are you really getting with each jump in price for a LPVO scope? As an example, I am considering the Falcon S8i 1-8×24, the Nikon BLACK FORCE100 1-6x24 , or the Delta Striker 1-6x24. Each are similar but vary in price yet perform the same task. What rating would you give to each category? Is it the build quality, clarity of the glass, or the precision on tracking, feel of the turrets, 1/4 MOA vs. 1/2 MOA, effectiveness of the reticle up close vs longer distances? It would make for an interesting scorecard.
Great idea. That would be an interesting video. For myself, the turret tracking and feel are largely unimportant on scopes like these since I never dial them in the field. I'm always using the reticle. To me the big deal is having a (partially) illuminated reticle that meets my needs and glass that can pick up color and detail from edge to edge (and into the dusk hours). Build quality and toughness are also huge factors since our hunts get messy and dangerous. The scopes you listed should all be wonderful choices, and they should perform nearly identically. I can vouch for the glass on the Falcon and Nikon. I haven't tried the Delta yet.
@@SocialRegressive You would be the first to give scopes a scorecard per scope type. It would provide a quantitative perspective to subjective impressions and would address the question that everyone is asking. Am I getting the value that I paid for in price?
my 458 socom destroyed everything I put on it. red dots, lasers. flashlights, magpul adj stocks, and even a nice old weaver rifle scope. finally I found a good match for it. my holosun military grade red dot has survived several hundred rounds so far.....
Good information dude!!.I’ve got a new mossberg mvp scout in 308 bolt action. Has a rear ghost ring and front fiber optic sight. I just received my primary arms, 1-8-24 with a 30 mm tube . Can you recommend a mount or rings that are see through,as I’d like to see my iron sights!!
That's a tricky business. A high mounted scope is just awful to use. I would instead recommend a quick detach 30mm mount. That way, your face and eye are always in the same spot on the stock's comb.
What about the spread of the Rings on the scope? Some of the cantilever scope mounts don't have much space between the Rings. Seems like you would have a better mounting system if the Rings were as far as part as possible but no one really seems to care about this.
What do you think of ring like the DNZ game-reaper. On my hunting rifle i use them, it is CNC machines, eliminate the rail and is rifle specific. !?!? They are kinda budget friendly too.
anyone have a heads up on a good affordable inch-pound torque driver? I was thinking about going on ebay and getting one of those older beam style inch-pound wrenches but it seems like the newer bit style screwdriver style is more convenient to use for torqueing the fasteners on aluminum rings and mounts..
I've been using the weaver model, and I really like it. It comes with standard driver bits. You can probably save some money on a beam torque wrench, but you'll need some bits and an adapter.
I have noticed over the past year and a half that as I try to purchase the accessories I need for my firearms that when I get ready to purchase those items what used to be the price has now greatly increased or you just can’t find it. I won’t even talk about ammo. So, now it’s becoming a challenge one to afford the stuff that I would like to run like a good topic for my savage axis 270 rifle. It’s actually become quite funny because I have to laugh, if I have the money you can’t find it if I don’t have the money they’re falling out of the trees landing at my feet lol.... good luck to everyone as we try to make it through the socialist communist Marxist treasonous Democrat takeover of our Country. Please keep in mind; that things can and will get worse to the point that we all actually might have to use those projects we’ve been building in setting up for the protection of ourselves and our families and our country. Good luck everyone I really hope we make it through this.
I'm with you, buddy. I'm not looking forward to the financial mess our overlords are creating for us and our kids. As for optics, though, I plan to highlight some great budget models soon. You might find something that fits your needs.
