The more esoteric issues for mid to long range shooting in combat becomes laser ranging, LIDAR wind reading, auto sight adjustments, spectrum features (IR, etc.), and hopefully one day seeing through foliage.
Another good thing about this video series is learning how to think about scopes and what you need because this goes across brands. Here, Bushnell receives a number of recommendations. Others such as Vortex, Leupold, Primary Arms, offer similar features and various levels of budget. So, it really helps to consider whether you need a steady reticle regardless of zoom Or first focal plane, which has the reticle expanding and contracting with the change of zoom. The other effect of first focal plane that I like is that regardless of zoom, the MOA marks in the reticle are correct with the size of the target, which makes it easier to calculate range to target from the reticle. Granted, we all probably have a range finder. I do. Batteries can die. Fog can be thick enough to dull the abilities of the range finder. Plus, I am a math geek and it is plain fun. A whitetail buck full grown or legal age to be harvested has a chest about 18 inches tall. So, in MOA, you take that 18 inches and multiply by 95.5. Take whatever that is and divide by the numer of MOA marks in the reticle as it covers the chest. Say, 6 MOA. that comes out to 287 yards and some change. You could use a ballistic calculator in your phone (I do.) Or you can use ballistic calculators at ammo sites and download or print what I have learned to call "try" DOPE. You try the firing solutions. The printout I have for 100 yard zero on the 168 gr HPBT I am firing shows that 250 yards needs an adjustment of 2.4 MOA and 300 yards needs 3.7 MOA. Estimate the difference, dial up 3 MOA, favor the upper edge of the elbow, the drop should have you getting a shot through both the lungs and the heart. And this stuff could be figured out before hand, as was mentioned before. Range the landmark that is your target zone. Dial for that and any deer at that location can be had with the same DOPE. That way, you are not fumbling with calculator while the 40 pounds of venison disappears until next November. You can do this with SFP, just need to be at maximum magnification to get close to proper size. I can see why AR rifles often use low power variable optics. Using them like glorified red dots. That being said, you can get some awesome shots. One of my bosses won a couple c notes on a bet. To be fair, I don't remember if he mentioned his sharpshooter training. Anyway, he popped a balloon at 850 yards with an AR-15. It turns out that his LPVO ran out of elevation and stadia and he had to hold over a little past that. But at that range and less, even with an AR-10 in .308 Win (7.62 x 51 mm NATO), you don't need to do surgery, you just need to get enough image to aim at. Most times, an AR-15 has a normally effective range of 300 yards, which is also the second zero of its combat zero. MY M4A3 had combat zero from the factory. Pulled out of the box and fired at 25 yards and right on the crosshairs of the target using iron sights. With my 24 x scopes, there is still a limit to how much zoom and mag is going to help. In addition, backing out just a little can help the target settle. I talk too much. Did I mention that I am a nerd? Carry on.
I have a real Remington M24. I don't want a 10 X fixed scope but I do want the quality. I will be shooting moving targets up to 1000 yards. What would you recommend? I don't want to deal with crappy chromatic problems or spending 10 minutes. Calculating distance. What would you buy up to $2000 Thanks!
This video is helpful to me, I'm considering a lvpo for my Volquartsen summit build to use for squirrel hunting. I figure a 1x8 will be just fine. I'm just not sure how a fixed parallax at 100 yards will affect image clarity for a precise shot, say like a headshot on a squirrel at 50 yards or in?
I've never found focus at reasonable closer distances to be a problem with low power scopes like these. If the depth of field gets too shallow I can zoom out a little and see everything.
USO could be real hit if with 0,1mrad clicks on turrets, it's quite bad to have mix-matched rectile and elevation and windage turrets. Yes maybe it's for most Americans ok to have MOA reticle and knobs but as for Europeans those are pretty useless. I like the JNG reticle quite much, it could have 0,25mrad or even 0,1mrad lines for more accurate measurements. Then it would be nice to have horizontal stadia lines that would correspond 50cm wide for 200m to 800m. How is the illumination, does it bleed at all? How about zeroing turrets, is that a easy thing to do?
Trybe optics makes a nice scope doubler which clips on the front of either 1" or 30mm AR scopes. It's very useful for zeroing in at the range and also for hunting (gives you a quick power boost)
Good thing you broke this subject down into shorter videos . This would be a lot of info. to digest in one long video for someone who's new to scopes . When I was shopping for my LPVO I had to do a lot of searching to get a proper amount of info. to help me choose type and power range . Of course that was a few years ago . Good series !
I saw those reviews on Optics Planet. I can mirror some of the comments. At 1x close-up objects exhibit a fair amount of barrel distortion. Normal for the type of scope, I would say. The Foundation models fix it, but they're really expensive. The eyepiece spins kinda easily, too. Not as easily as the first reviewer said, but they can spin with the lens caps installed. Nice thing about that is that use the caps as an index. As for the other complaints, I've experienced none of them. The glass is clear and bright, the illumination works as advertised, and the turrets spin fine. Nice reticle, too.
Late reply, I have this optic and it is absolutely fantastic. The glass is clearer than my Vortex Diamondback HP. The ACSS reticle is really good once you get used to it.
That's a tough one. I would want something with low power, like a 1-4 with a milling reticle for drop and windage. And an air gun rating. Most manufacturers don't list if they can handle air guns, so you have to call and ask. What are you using right now?
so on the sfp lpvo when you sight the optic in you do it on x8 and when you need to make close range shots you put it to x1 and its still accurate? i thought the shot at x1 would be pretty off if its sighted in at x8 im trying to understand this because i just got one
Great question. If you sight in at 8x, your shot will still be dead-on at any other magnification. Provided that you're still at the same distance. The big difference occurs when you're trying to use the OTHER stadia in the reticle, like if you're holding one mil over the target for a longer shot. That line will measure a different amount at 1x than at 8x.
The only thing that would change is your drop and windage measurements. Your zero should remain constant. You'll have the same point of impact at 3x or 9x.
@@SocialRegressive thanks for the info. I have a vortex 1x4 it shifts a bit from 4x to 1x, shoots about a inch or two low at 1x. The same goes with my hunting scope 3x9 its even worst the poi would be completely miss the paper. But on the power that I zeroed on it would hit dead on. Why does this happened? Is both of my scope broken?
@@SocialRegressive I have them on most of my rifles and they work absolutely wonderful the glass is extremely clear. Very well-made for the price point. And their local here in Texas their main shop is in Pearland Texas
You made an old man laugh with your 2 legged varmint. I am a trijicon fan US optics fan and a Khales fan. I am actually looking for but don't have enough cabbage to pick my optics for my AR10 in 6.5 Creedmore Lancer frame Proof 22 in barrel custom I dont even remember the I think hyperfire well one of the best trigger group available and also NY compliant i dont want to say the wrong thing and have a swat team jumping though my windows for nothingness I keep everything compliant to federal state and local laws. But as usual I am willing to spend as much as I spent for the rifle on the optics as that is the MOST important part. To hit your target is the objective LOL
